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Vivo Xplay 3S finally breaks the barrier as world's first 2K phone

Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/

jacide said:
Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/
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Not quite sute if our eye will be able to catch the difference of such a display. Personally I can't tell the difference between a galaxy S3 and galaxy S4...

Check out this video by MKBHD. He has a very good point about this 2K displays.
http://youtu.be/E0_JrUNevdc

Note also
That Vivo is Made under OPPO's umbrella so technically speaking well you know the rest they are the first lol I want this phone so bad just for its advanced audio for wired music I cant find it anywhere I can trust to purchase it so ill wait some time it will be this the S5 or the find 7 another Oppo device! excited for either or mainly this one my last resource will be to ask a college friend who lives in china right now to go look for it for me lol

vivo xplay 3s seller
hey there,
here is the link for a trusted seller,he had problems shipping before but is now using TNT to ship and all is going smoothly,once you click on the vivo button you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and post questions to the seller,he will also put google on it for you before shipping
and i must say it is an awesome device...the antutu benchmark blows everything else out of the water,the only two cons are you cannot replace the battery and no ex sd other than that it just rocks...oh and you have to learn the os because there is no manual for it:good:
http://www.liaow.com/huaweilist.php

HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more

http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?

I'd say nonsense but who knows
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I kinda doubt it'll be a snapdragon 810... Qualcomm's website even says it won't be available till mid 2015...
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/810
" The Snapdragon 810 processor is anticipated to begin sampling in the second half of 2014 and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2015."
I'm betting on the K1 processor from Nvidia. But if it's the 64bit version it'll only be a dual core... Not sure how well most tablet apps and the Android OS is coded for 4 threads... So dual core may be fine...

3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:

Gorgtech said:
3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:
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Yeah, most important specs are screen size and aspect ratio, if it is 8.4"+ with 16:10 ratio I am defintely getting it, but I won't ever buy a 4:3 tablet b/c how much I do video streaming on it.

jblaze10 said:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?
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Those specs are just a pipedream.
It was reported over 2 weeks ago on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/21/this-is-volantis-htcs-nine-inch-nexus-tablet/
These specs are more realistic to me:
•8.9" Display at 2048x1440 (281ppi)
•NVIDIA Logan 64-bit processor (Tegra K1)
•2GB RAM
•16/32GB internal storage
•8MP OIS main camera, 3MP front facing camera
•Aluminum zero-gap construction
•Stereo front-facing speakers
•8.91"x5.98"x0.31" body (that's 22.63x15.19x0.79cm)
•418g (or 427g with LTE) (that's 14.74/15.1 ounces)

If it's the Tegra k1, benchmarks of the new nexus will blow everything out of the water... And wait till custom kernels with overclocking...

5 GB RAM.... I'm posting this from a PC with only 2GB of RAM xD Phones will be more powerful than PC's at this rate.

Wishful thinking has once again made it to the rumour mill, I see.
Fake.
No company is stupid enough to sell 5GB when there are none yet with 4GB. It makes more business sense to sell a 4GB one first. (same principle as why we've got 2K and now a few 4K tv's whilst they're already capable of making 8K for several years.)
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Lol at this thread

but we got light bleed!

i just heard about hTC One M9 will be release at MWC 2015. might use Snapdragon 810 under hood. Might lot of my dream specs especially LTE cat.6.
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ASUS ZenFone 3, Deluxe, Ultra - Opinions

Hey guys, now that Asus has unveiled the specs and pricing of Asus Zenfone 3 variants, what do you think?
Asus ZenFone 3 is the most basic model of the three. It has an aluminum frame body with 2.5D Corning Gorilla Glass on the front and back. On the front is a 5.5-inch 1080p Super IPS+ display with up to 500 nits brightness and 77.3% screen to body ratio.
The Zenfone 3 also has a 16 megapixel camera on the back with ASUS TriTech autofocus that combines second generation laser autofocus, phase detection autofocus and contrast detection autofocus to achieve focus in 0.03 seconds.
The handset runs on Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 and has up to 4GB of RAM. There is also a fingerprint sensor on the back.
Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe is the flagship model. It has a full metal body with no visible antenna lines and 4.2mm edges. It is built around a 5.7-inch Super AMOLED display with over 100% NTSC color gamut and 79% screen to body ratio.
The phone runs on the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 with up to 6GB of RAM. On the back is a 23 megapixel Sony IMX318 camera with f2.0 aperture, 4-axis optical image stabilization, and 4K video with the same TriTech autofocus system as on the ZenFone 3.
The ZenFone 3 Deluxe uses a USB Type-C connector with USB 3.0 and Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 support. The phone also has a fingerprint sensor on the back. Lastly, there is also a single five-magnet speaker and Hi-Res Audio support.
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra has a massive 6.8-inch 1080p display with 95% NTSC color gamut support, 79% screen to body ratio, and what ASUS calls Tru2Life+ Video technology that uses a high-end 4K UHD TV-grade image processor. The ZenFone 3 also has two five-magnet speakers, Hi-Res Audio support, and also the first phone to have virtual 7.1 channel surround sound with DTS Headphone: X.
On the back is the same 23 megapixel camera as on the ZenFone 3 Deluxe. The phablet is powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 652 with up to 4GB of RAM, and a 4600mAh battery with Quick Charge 3.0 support.
The Zenfone 3 Deluxe can also charge other devices with a 1.5A output. Lastly, there is a fingerprint sensor on the front of the device. All packed in a full metal body with no visible antenna lines.
Prices start at $249 for the ZenFone 3,
$499 for the ZenFone 3 Deluxe, and
$479 for the ZenFone 3 Ultra.
Source : gsmarena

definitely keen on the zenfone 3 deluxe
wouldn't mind the bigger screen ultra but the specs are not as good

I'm more interested in Deluxe variant of Asus ZenFone 3

I learned my lesson from ZF2 and will therefore avoid ZF3 (I personally am not happy with the support ZF2 received).
And no, I don't want to argue about it, I am just stating my personal subjective opinion for the record.

Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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They all seem good. The regular zenfone 3 is a lot of phone for $249. Yeah, not a blazing fast CPU, but most people use a tiny fraction of their phones processing power most of the time, and the 14nm process should be very energy efficient. Otherwise it is pretty sweet and well specced for the price. The deluxe is a beast. Expensive for ASUS, but for the level of hardware base $499 price is good. The Ultra is certainly niche. Not as powerful in terms of soc, but still no slouch and the audio and video capabilities make it pretty enticing. I voted deluxe, but if I had the money and wasn't pissed off at ASUS for the upgrade farce of the Zf2, would be a toss up between the deluxe and ultra. I'd need to try them in person in the shop before deciding.

Wait so no quick charge on base model?

Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.

bullet25 said:
Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.
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I have the same sentiments. Seems like the only major improvement is on the camera. I don't know why glass is considered to be such a major upgrade to design as well, repairability is gonna take a hit. The 625 isn't even gonna compete with any other cheaper mid range offerings having SD 650(Redmi note 3 pro), SD 801 (Oneplus x) and even our very own intel atom z35XX line. The deluxe on the other hand is flagship material but is gonna have a hard time considering cheaper equally or better specs alternatives like ZTE Axon 7 at $450 and the soon to be released Oneplus 3.

iancjc said:
Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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THIS.. Ohh why would Asus change such a basic yet beautiful option.. Why why why.. What a let down..

Can't wait for Zenfone 3 Deluxe....
I just hope that the battery is good enough.

just hoping that zenfone 3 will have better battery life since its not Intel and having a better display.
And please when it comes out in my country it will rougly same price as zenfone 2 when it launch :angel:

The camera should be also really great...i hope better than Samsung / LG..

I had high expectations of their next ZenFone, but so far I'm disappointed. Not having a separate slot for the MicroSD is a let down for me. I need two working SIM slots AND a MicroSD at the same time. A "basic" version with 128GB would probably make me consider it and not need an SD. The glass body of the basic ZF3 seems impractical and I've never been a fan of glass for a phone's back. (An I the only one who prefers plastic -good plastic- over glass or metal?) The deluxe will cost more than I'm willing to pay for a phone, and will probably be too big (have not seen yet dimensions listed on any site). And the "Ultra" is way too big for me. The only thing I'm not clear is how the GPU on any I'd these versions compares to the G6430 in the ZF2.
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I am a little disappointed that Asus changed the design so much as I love the look of my ZF2. I would prefer the Deluxe model but I doubt I will have the money for it. The base ZF3 would work for me but I am looking at all of my options for my next upgrade. I have a spreadsheet that currently has 15 different prospects laid out. The ZF3 is in the mix but it is not the only one in the running.
Unlike others I am more than happy with my ZF2 from the time of purchase at release through today. I picked up a ZE551KL (ZF2 Laser) from Swappa and am astounded at just how much better my original ZF2 is versus the Laser. While the ZF3 has a Snapdragon 625 vs the ZF2 Laser's Snapdragon 615 I am worried that the ZF3 would be slower than my ZF2.

The deluxe seems nice but in my opinion most people in the market for an unlocked phone aren't looking to spend $500+ for a phone, I know that's out of my budget especially with the lack of support on its previous flagship.

I may buy one but hope that the deluxe doesnt contain a speaker as cheap as the zenfone 2 which i replaced twice. Hopefully its a good speaker.

Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???

I read that the 6gb axon 7 is roughly $650usd but the 4gb is listed at 450usd
I'm guessing asus will use similar price point
Although I keep reading that the version being released for 499usd is 6gb/64gb. So fingers crossed that there is 4gb/64gb version a little cheaper and a 6gb/128gb a little more. It will kill me if that price announced in the conference was for 4gb version! Although they were pressing the point of it having 6g ram the whole time before flashing the 499 price tag on the screen.
I don't know asus are confusing!
Anyone want to take a guess?

Leftrand said:
Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???
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They announced it at the launch https://youtu.be/5hnZ02Zoobg

Honor 8 vs Nova 2 plus?

Hello all,
which of these two would you suggest?
I prefer bigger screen, but since it's only a 0.3 inch difference that's not a big deciding factor.
the most important factor for me is durability, both in terms of software (higher chance for future android updates) and hardware (build quality).
I know the SoC on honor 8 is better, but I don't play games, is the SoC on Nova 2 plus enough for web surfing, youtube, facebook, etc. ?
also battery life is very important.
(don't suggest honor 8 pro, because it's much more expensive in my country. these two are the same price)
please help me decide, i am dying here :crying: :crying:

nova 2 + ::
Metal body ,best cameras f 1.8 ( pictures will be awesome),battery is good backup with 3340 mAh,new Soc have to see wheather it performs well.
Honor 8::
Premium feel , great development(custom oreo is under-desk),decent battery life.good performance,cheap.also we got 2 years policy software update.
i prefer honor 8 over nova 2 +.
choose wisely

If you want battery, then go with Nova 2 plus.
All I can say now is, do a list with the things you want in a phone then, see which fots your needs better
All the best

I think u should go for the Honor 8 rather than the Nova 2 Plus. Obviously it has a greater chance of getting future software updates but considering how much more expensive it is than the Honor 8 it doesn't seem to be worth the money.
It has a Kirin 6xx series processor instead of the 9xx series processor. The 6xx series is a mid ranger processor so the performance will never live up to the Honor 8. It only has A53 cores which are low power cores. Whereas the Honor 8 has both A53 and A72 which means performance will be a lot better. Even in the graphics front the Honor 8 easily outclasses it with a 4 core GPU instead of a 2 core GPU. U might see battery gains thought because of the SOC only running off of A53 cores.
About the camera it won't be a huge upgrade from the Honor 8. It has a selfie camera with 20MP which will definitely be better but in terms of rear cameras it might perform only a little better in low light because of it's f1.8 aperture.
Considering how the processor and GPU is a downgrade and how the camera is only marginally better I think I would go for the Honor 8.
But then again it depends on what u want better performance or better battery life.
I've also attached a full spec comparison below.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

ayush rao said:
I think u should go for the Honor 8 rather than the Nova 2 Plus. Obviously it has a greater chance of getting future software updates but considering how much more expensive it is than the Honor 8 it doesn't seem to be worth the money.
It has a Kirin 6xx series processor instead of the 9xx series processor. The 6xx series is a mid ranger processor so the performance will never live up to the Honor 8. It only has A53 cores which are low power cores. Whereas the Honor 8 has both A53 and A72 which means performance will be a lot better. Even in the graphics front the Honor 8 easily outclasses it with a 4 core GPU instead of a 2 core GPU. U might see battery gains thought because of the SOC only running off of A53 cores.
About the camera it won't be a huge upgrade from the Honor 8. It has a selfie camera with 20MP which will definitely be better but in terms of rear cameras it might perform only a little better in low light because of it's f1.8 aperture.
Considering how the processor and GPU is a downgrade and how the camera is only marginally better I think I would go for the Honor 8.
But then again it depends on what u want better performance or better battery life.
I've also attached a full spec comparison below.
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Good sorting bro .
We have lot of development too , i think this is the best kirin based developed phone(honor 8).
May nova 2 + is huawei , carefully select one.

mahyares said:
Hello all,
which of these two would you suggest?
I prefer bigger screen, but since it's only a 0.3 inch difference that's not a big deciding factor.
the most important factor for me is durability, both in terms of software (higher chance for future android updates) and hardware (build quality).
I know the SoC on honor 8 is better, but I don't play games, is the SoC on Nova 2 plus enough for web surfing, youtube, facebook, etc. ?
also battery life is very important.
(don't suggest honor 8 pro, because it's much more expensive in my country. these two are the same price)
please help me decide, i am dying here :crying: :crying:
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Go for HONOR 8 . you will definitely loved it.

gopinaidu77 said:
Go for HONOR 8 . you will definitely loved it.
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And he can also enjoy your coolest ROMs.

venugopalu007 said:
And he can also enjoy your coolest ROMs.
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Honor 8 is definitely sexy design wise it looks awesome in blue color.

shashank1320 said:
Honor 8 is definitely sexy design wise it looks awesome in blue color.
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Ikr. Till date I regret getting the white Honor 8. I should have gone for the blue!
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I'm pretty satisfied with the midnight black :good:

I too. I feel it better over blue version.

No , sapphire blue is the beat over all.:angel:

What is comparable to Mi 9T specwise?

Hi all,
At the moment I have Xiaomi mi A2, and I am considering to get the Mi 9T as my new phone.
It would be in my opinion a better value upgrade as I would get NFC, AMOLED screen and all screen experience with the pop out camera.
However I was wondering what is comparable to the Mi 9T Specwise) as I mentioned NFC and AMOLED are a must and a bit smaller size than mi A2.
Pop out camera is not essential but would rather have that than the punch hole( like SG S10 or S10e)
Thanks in advance for comments and/or suggestions

Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.

CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.

CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all ?

Allan_Hun said:
I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all
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I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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Ellunphant said:
Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.

CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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Allan_Hun said:
CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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True. I don't game that much on my phone either, but sometimes I do. Years of being a pc gamer have spoiled me into not accepting anything fewer than 60 fps. Mind you, my Poco F1 was heavily modified. I even deleted the thermal files in vendor/etc so the phone would never throttle, no matter how hot it got. I really hoped there would be not much of a difference between the Adreno 630 and the 618. But there is. More than benchmarks it's the real-life usage and performance in games and apps. I play PUBG in the 9t with the exact same graphic settings from my Poco F1, and, while it sure as heck doesn't heat up as much and doesn't drain the battery as quickly, the Adreno 618 is almost always at 99% usage and maximum mhz (I use DevCheck app to check GPU usage during gaming). Sometimes it dips below 50 fps. What's more, whenever a grenade explodes nearby or you are inside a smoke the game lags as hell. This would never happen on my Poco F1. What's more, I used to brag to my friends about the SD 845 performance by maxing out all the settings in the GFX tool and showing them those graphics. The Poco F1 could sustain 45 to 60 fps with those settings. But my phone would get so stupidly hot that I couldn't play like that for more than 3 minutes (with the thermal files disabled, of course). I tried the same with this phone and well... let's just say that it's not very playable.
Anyhow, you sure are right about the tradeoff between efficiency and raw performance. This is why I have a 9T today.
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CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.
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I was comparing Mi 9T vs Mi A2 and comparing the size looks on tjhe paper that Mi 9T seems to be a tad bit smaller 156.7 x 74.3 x 8.8 mm (6.17 x 2.93 x 0.35 in) vs Mi A2 that I have and it's 158.7 x 75.4 x 7.3 mm.
I know it may not be that different in size and you are right that S10 or S10e are smaller especially S10e, even the normal Note 10 is smaller side by side as I compared those 3 samsung models side by side with my Mi A2, and while the camera setup is brilliant on all 3 the punch hole bugs me someway visually as it is visible on screen(maybe I am weird:cyclops and I am willing to risk that with Mi 9T and get a Gcam on it to get better (in some situations pictures) and It wont burn my pocket as Samsung would (buying direct in a shop not trough provider)

I think the Mi 9T Pro is the best value for money with around $100 over the Mi 9T. The Pro has SD855, but you wouldn't notice the difference in normal use, maybe just in gaming.