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Vivo Xplay 3S finally breaks the barrier as world's first 2K phone

Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/

jacide said:
Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/
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Not quite sute if our eye will be able to catch the difference of such a display. Personally I can't tell the difference between a galaxy S3 and galaxy S4...

Check out this video by MKBHD. He has a very good point about this 2K displays.
http://youtu.be/E0_JrUNevdc

Note also
That Vivo is Made under OPPO's umbrella so technically speaking well you know the rest they are the first lol I want this phone so bad just for its advanced audio for wired music I cant find it anywhere I can trust to purchase it so ill wait some time it will be this the S5 or the find 7 another Oppo device! excited for either or mainly this one my last resource will be to ask a college friend who lives in china right now to go look for it for me lol

vivo xplay 3s seller
hey there,
here is the link for a trusted seller,he had problems shipping before but is now using TNT to ship and all is going smoothly,once you click on the vivo button you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and post questions to the seller,he will also put google on it for you before shipping
and i must say it is an awesome device...the antutu benchmark blows everything else out of the water,the only two cons are you cannot replace the battery and no ex sd other than that it just rocks...oh and you have to learn the os because there is no manual for it:good:
http://www.liaow.com/huaweilist.php

Your Nexus 6 :)

Hi everyone
I wanted to find out what your personal Nexus 6 specifications would've been if you were in charge of deciding on final specifications. Keep in mind the costs of production and selling price to keep things grounded in reality. I've been thinking about this a while as I keep reading negative points on the Nexus 6, positive points on the Nexus 6 as well as information about upcoming and current phones in the market. I wanted to see just exactly what people want from a Nexus device in a nutshell.
I also thought this could be a bit of light hearted fun
My specifications:
Processor: quad core (or higher) 64bit processor
RAM: 4gigs
Screen: 1080P or QHD with very high brightness & vivid colours (e.g. Note 4, iPhone 6+)
Rear Camera: 16mp 1/2 sensor, dual flash
Front Camera: 4-5mp camera (flash optional - not sure if possible)
Screen Size: 5.5-6"
Body Thickness: 6-7mm
Memory: 32gb, 64gb and 140gb options
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: 3,600mh+
NFC: Yes
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (same or higher than Galaxy S5; the current Nexus 6 waterproof is expected to be more 'water-resistant')
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
I believe my specifications are completely doable by today's technology and they would easily be able to sell this device at the same price or even $50 more while still maintaining a profit. Even if it is not currently doable today, I believe this phone is totally viable by March 2015 when more 64bit quad core chipsets are released.
I don't think I'm asking for much as basically all my specifications exist today and are included in many phones (at least more than half).

spartanm99 said:
Hi everyone
I wanted to find out what your personal Nexus 6 specifications would've been if you were in charge of deciding on final specifications. Keep in mind the costs of production and selling price to keep things grounded in reality. I've been thinking about this a while as I keep reading negative points on the Nexus 6, positive points on the Nexus 6 as well as information about upcoming and current phones in the market. I wanted to see just exactly what people want from a Nexus device in a nutshell.
I also thought this could be a bit of light hearted fun
My specifications:
Processor: quad core (or higher) 64bit processor
RAM: 4gigs
Screen: 1080P or QHD with very high brightness & vivid colours (e.g. Note 4, iPhone 6+)
Rear Camera: 16mp 1/2 sensor, dual flash
Front Camera: 4-5mp camera (flash optional - not sure if possible)
Screen Size: 5.5-6"
Body Thickness: 6-7mm
Memory: 32gb, 64gb and 140gb options
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: 3,600mh+
NFC: Yes
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (same or higher than Galaxy S5; the current Nexus 6 waterproof is expected to be more 'water-resistant')
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
I believe my specifications are completely doable by today's technology and they would easily be able to sell this device at the same price or even $50 more while still maintaining a profit. Even if it is not currently doable today, I believe this phone is totally viable by March 2015 when more 64bit quad core chipsets are released.
I don't think I'm asking for much as basically all my specifications exist today and are included in many phones (at least more than half).
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the problem is if such a phone exist then it will be the perfect phone...and there is no need to upgrade even after 5 years....and it has all the best things of all the phones and this isnt possible....

sorry didnt read OP correctly

Nexus 6 plus sd card slot, removable battery, and ir port. Oh and a weight of less than 150 grams. Otherwise for right now I think the nexus 6 is perfect for what I want. Next year then everything would change.
Hopefully by next year project ara is out and we can build our perfect phone. I'm so looking forward to that day!

The Qualcomm 810 64 bit big.Little kits should be out first half of 2015 from what I've read. I am fine with the N6 as it is today in 64gb format. SD card slot would have been nice but 64gb local storage is plenty for me. If they mess around and delay a VZW release long enough I'll wait to see the 810 64bit handset announcements.... I'm up for edging up Dec 10th. Just have to wait for the actual review of a VZW N6 to go up, see if it's all I expect it to be, and if it's truly bootloader unlock able. If so I'll bite. If not I'll wait.

Exactly like they made it

spartanm99 said:
Hi everyone
I wanted to find out what your personal Nexus 6 specifications would've been if you were in charge of deciding on final specifications. Keep in mind the costs of production and selling price to keep things grounded in reality. I've been thinking about this a while as I keep reading negative points on the Nexus 6, positive points on the Nexus 6 as well as information about upcoming and current phones in the market. I wanted to see just exactly what people want from a Nexus device in a nutshell.
I also thought this could be a bit of light hearted fun
My specifications:
Processor: quad core (or higher) 64bit processor
RAM: 4gigs
Screen: 1080P or QHD with very high brightness & vivid colours (e.g. Note 4, iPhone 6+)
Rear Camera: 16mp 1/2 sensor, dual flash
Front Camera: 4-5mp camera (flash optional - not sure if possible)
Screen Size: 5.5-6"
Body Thickness: 6-7mm
Memory: 32gb, 64gb and 140gb options
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: 3,600mh+
NFC: Yes
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (same or higher than Galaxy S5; the current Nexus 6 waterproof is expected to be more 'water-resistant')
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
I believe my specifications are completely doable by today's technology and they would easily be able to sell this device at the same price or even $50 more while still maintaining a profit. Even if it is not currently doable today, I believe this phone is totally viable by March 2015 when more 64bit quad core chipsets are released.
I don't think I'm asking for much as basically all my specifications exist today and are included in many phones (at least more than half).
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Sounds like an awesome phone and I know we're just talking dream phones here, but I don't think a 3,600mah battery in a waterproof 6-7mm body with a 5.5" screen is at all doable at this point. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 are larger phones and were only able to manage 3,220mah batteries.
Would be nice though!

For me, the N6 would have to bring a Nvidia GTX Titan. And the state of the art i7 from intel.
Useless thread and unrealistc too. Its also funny because the only thing that you dont know if its possible or not (front facing camera with flash aka HTC Disere Eye) already exists! But a Phone with 4GB ram, body thickness 6-7mm, 3600mAh battery, its very possible at this moment...

Current N6 specs, but in my hand right now.

I'd have added a 64 bit processor and removable battery, everything else the same , the 64 bit processor wont be ready available until next year, and the removable battery is never going to happen in the nexus line so that's that

Body: space titanium
Screen protector: sapphire glass
Processor: last Intel i7
RAM: 16GB
Screen: AMOLED display (~2000ppi/dpi) with absolutely no gaps around the screen
Rear Camera: 1000mp, led and xenon flash
Front Camera: 10mp camera
Screen Size: 6"
Body Thickness: 10mm
Memory: minimum 1 TB
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: Atomic / nuclear
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (minimum ip68)
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
FM radio: yes
Walkie talkie: yes
Network: GSM, CDMA, GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, standard USB 3.0, satellite voice/data connection

I would like this in the Nexus 7 since it is too late to change the Nexus 6.
1. Duo sim cards. I need to have 2 phone numbers. One for business and one for personal.
2. Expandable microSD card.
3. Removable battery
4. Larger battery
5. Snapdragon 810
6. 4 RAM
7. Better camera
Everything else can be the same as the Nexus 6.
I think these are doable for the next version.

x111 said:
Body: space titanium
Screen protector: sapphire glass
Processor: last Intel i7
RAM: 16GB
Screen: AMOLED display (~2000ppi/dpi) with absolutely no gaps around the screen
Rear Camera: 1000mp, led and xenon flash
Front Camera: 10mp camera
Screen Size: 6"
Body Thickness: 10mm
Memory: minimum 1 TB
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: Atomic / nuclear
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (minimum ip68)
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
FM radio: yes
Walkie talkie: yes
Network: GSM, CDMA, GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, standard USB 3.0
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I hate when people just put the best of everything in these threads, of course that would be the perfect phone but be freaking realistic(and also original) it will cost 1000+ euro.
Personally for me a nexus 6 with smaller display (and a smaller battery accordingly, you can't have both) at around 5 inch, instead of a 2k display a 1080p well calibrated one and a Samsung isocell sensor, snapdragon 805, 3gb, front facing speakers(so what the nexus 6 already has)
So a mix between a moto x and the nexus 6.
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Note 4 camera
5.5in display or stylus
2gb ram (3 /w stylus)
Micro SD

x111 said:
Body: space titanium
Screen protector: sapphire glass
Processor: last Intel i7
RAM: 16GB
Screen: AMOLED display (~2000ppi/dpi) with absolutely no gaps around the screen
Rear Camera: 1000mp, led and xenon flash
Front Camera: 10mp camera
Screen Size: 6"
Body Thickness: 10mm
Memory: minimum 1 TB
Microphones: 4
Speakers: Stereo dual front facing
Battery: Atomic / nuclear
Qi Charging: Yes
Waterproof: Yes (minimum ip68)
Finger Print Scanner: Yes
IR Blaster: Yes
FM radio: yes
Walkie talkie: yes
Network: GSM, CDMA, GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, standard USB 3.0, satellite voice/data connection
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sure in the year 2020 lolz
nexus 6 current specs + plus these addons would have been great: usb3.0 microHDMI, removable battery, microSDslot
prolly the top 4 addons to any NEXUS phones but will NEVER happen

5.5 inch display may be better... But with very small bezels including top and bottom.
3900 Mah battery.
I'm still very eager to see what the unlocked non Verizon version of the droid turbo looks like. That one's even easier to get to perfect (for 2014)...add band 12 LTE and an unlocked boot loader.
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Schoat333 said:
Current N6 specs, but in my hand right now.
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exactly.

SetPT said:
For me, the N6 would have to bring a Nvidia GTX Titan. And the state of the art i7 from intel.
Useless thread and unrealistc too. Its also funny because the only thing that you dont know if its possible or not (front facing camera with flash aka HTC Disere Eye) already exists! But a Phone with 4GB ram, body thickness 6-7mm, 3600mAh battery, its very possible at this moment...
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I didn't see the thread as useless. I explained above - all I saw were debates; negative, positive and random comments on what people thought the Nexus 6 should have been like so I thought it would be nice to actually see a more clear picture of what people would've liked in this phone, or its replacement.
I'm sorry for not knowing if the front facing camera is possible or not...thanks for your input.
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I dont think my specs are a perfect phone at all; if these specs came out now, someone would better them next time and therefore THAT would be the 'perfect phone'. Come this time next year I'm sure the specs I listed would definitely not be called unrealistic since 4gig phones are expected early next year with 64bit processors, QHD big screens (5.5"+), IR, OIS, 1/2.5 camera etc, expandable memory, big batteries etc.

64 bit processor, 4 gig ram and high quality vivd 6" IPS screen. Those are all I'd add to a already great phone.
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Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)

I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)

DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.

Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810

I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

Mi MAX 2 going to be launched. What do you think guys?

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)

The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC

Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then

The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)

keithleyson said:
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.

Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.

SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.

bluheart said:
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.

Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.

The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?

I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.

Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera

No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html

i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same

Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....

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nijel8 said:
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html

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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.

impressive copy of Xiaomi Mix

ELEPHONE S8
- 6.0 Inch Corning Gorilla Glass Sharp 2K Screen, 2560*1440 Pixel
- Helio X25 MTK6797T 2.5GHz Deca Core
- Support Touch ID
- 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM
- 21 MP Sony Back Camera + 8 MP Sony Front Camera
- Android 7.1 System
- 4000mAh Battery, Support PE+ Quick Charge
- Aluminum metal body & 3D Curved Lumia Glass Back Design
- Dual SIM: NANO SIM + NANO SIM, Not Support TF Card
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
For ~ 220 €
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmL5Iqq-pIM
I have myself the Xiaomi Mix but im impressed with this copy considering it has A MUCH BETTER CAMERA THAN a 600 € Phone and the FP is in front of the device.
Is this the next bang for the buck phone ?
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Screen size & processor the only let down.

I never owned an elephant before but the specs looks good for the price

My Opinion is based on research and this reviews from devicespecifications .com
- No headphone jack (Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz)
- 4000 mAh battery, but for that size average SoT of 4h real usage and 6 videos only (Mi Mix has about double the SoT, about the best SoT any flagship has to offer)
- Nowadays small absolute price diffrence, for a device intended to be kept for 2 years. For a short time the Mi Mix was available in septembre for 399 DOLLARS, bought mine last week for 384 Euros.
- Elephone isn't good at optimising their system. Hiccups although the x25 should be potent enough
- Display quality, about half as bright with 250cd/m² to 500cd/m². Higher black levels and worse contrast ratio compared to the Mi Mix.
+ The Elephone S8 is very compact for 16:9 with 6inch. I think many would prefer that size over the one of the Mi Mix.
+ More durable due to the metal frame in case of a fall, and the back is plastic, not glass (false advertising)
+ Sensors and reception seem to be all right, not very good but acceptable
+ B20 Support
+ I trust you that the camera is better, but if the camera is important, close to all chinese phones including the Mi Mix suck relatively speaking. It's literally the thing they cut costs with, everything above an LG G2 or a Galaxy S3 has a better camera, that's how much they suck.
General Opinion: All those copies, Maze Alpha, Elephone S8, Leagoo Mix, Umi Crystal Mix, all they do is using the tri-bezelless design, although they cheat even more with their pics than xiaomi does, with larger bezzels. But they lack all the other stuff that makes the mix outstanding, without mentioning the display (one of the best sounding DACs with 3.5mm jack, a big battery with GOOD battery life, premium feel).
Not bad for the price, better than some Mi Mix copies. But it's no bang for the buck, no deal. +50€ and it would be too expensive for what it delivers. There are Mix clones for 50€ less that will give you the same user experience. It stands no ground against the Mi Mix.
The Vernee Mix 2 going to be released this month seems to be more promising on the design with acceptable specs for 160€, more what I call bang for the buck compared to the clones we have. It won't compete with the mi mix, but it may be an overall good device without any big flaws. If it delivers.

Elephone = Bad support + Bad ROM...
Need more improvment before considering to be impressive !

I've found that any device that isn't running a snapdragon either sucks badly and / or has terrible software support.
Not trying to be stereotypical here but I've had my share of devices and this is what it boiled down to.
This is also the main reason why I tend to stay far far away from those nowadays.

Does exist an AOSP custom rom for an MTK Helio?
That's the bottleneck in my opinion...

nr-thunder said:
Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz.
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I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?

scotto541 said:
I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?
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Unfortunately I haven't found the name of the model. It is a dedicated 24bit 192khz DAC according to the review from devicespecifactions...com and many other reviews, although everyone may repeats what somebody else said because I haven't found a real verification in any review. BTW the qualcomm inbuilt DAC of the SD821 also has 24bit 192khz. I've also read that many OEMs restrict the Qualcomm DAC in some way, so even with the same Qualcomm DAC there may be diffrences. In a comparison review with the mate 9 and honor note 8 from Techzilla, he praised it and said that it is comparable to the HTC 10. I didn't open the device, but my personal comparison with the galaxy note 4 it sounds a little bit better.. It definetly is louder (50% Mix = GN4 70%), and also has a bit more punch even if I go a little bit lower with the volume, if I am not biased by my expactations (using 10€ KZ ZST). There is also a reddit discussion (google mi mix dac), where BENQ3000 could use the mi mix with hard to drive headphones which require more juice. In the end it's noticable, but the Qualcomm DACs sound very good too with most headphones. I think AOSP ROMs would use the Qualcomm DAC, if I disable Hi-Fi audio in the settings it still sounds good too me, so go with the ROM you like regardless. As long as there is no clipping or other issues it doesn't really matter, the DAC is not powerful enough to replace my real amplifier for my 100Watts desktop speakers anyway .