I have been informed when you unlock the boatloader your device storage is wiped. I have no problem with files like pictures, video, etc. because I have all that kind of stuff backed up to the cloud, but I would LOVE to avoid having to reinstall every app, but more importantly signing in to them again and changing all the settings to my liking. Is there any app I can use pre-root to backup apps, app data, app settings, and transfer that to my device post-root? I am not sure how much this matters, but almost all my apps are from Google Play, and I don't want to have to install an .apk of an app that is separate from the Play Store when there is a version on the Play Store. Not sure if that made any sense, but TL;DR if it's on the Play Store, I wanna keep it that way.
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I decided to completely wipe my evo. Used format all zip and flashed cm6 and gapps. When I logged into my Google account it automatically restored all my apps paid and free. I thought only paid apps would show in market after a complete wipe. At least I have never had my free apps reappear that way. I expected to have to search and redownload like everytime before. It was a nice surprise.
Standard AOSP 2.2. If it eventually bothers you, just skip logging in at the welcome to android screen. (tap the four corners in a clockwise motion or just skip) and sign in through the market unchecking backup data with google.
Thanks for the info. What other data is backed up along with apps. Sounds like it could cause some problems if it backs up data u don't want.
I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
johnnyutah22 said:
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
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Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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remf4i said:
Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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From their page in app store: *** Notice: App Backup cannot backup data or settings of apps for you, but it only backup the apk files.
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Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Doh! Sorry. Been reading so much, I"m reverted to skimming too fast.
I too am anxious to get it all going. I suspect it will be fast. But in the meantime, we suffer w/o data updates it would seem.
The price of being on the got to have list early I guess
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
I believe Titanium backs up to your sd card. You install from market on new phone, then place the backup file from Titanium on your sd card to new phone and restore.
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Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
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First, your GS3 will need to be rooted. (I don't know if TIBU will even install or run if not).
You can install it from the Market, not needed from your old device so that TIBU can restore from them. But, you need the data files that were backed up on your old device.
While TIBU backs up to yoru SD card, you need to get those files over to your new device. Several ways that can happen:
Files put on Google Drive, or DropBox, then moved to new device.
Set your backup directory to an external SD instead of internal SD. That is what I do.
Once you have the files from your old device you can restore to the S3.
I'm assuming your old device is not ICS. So you will NOT want to do system restore.
I've read that people occasionally have issues restoring from TIBU. Just to be safest as possible, I will likely install all my apps from Market, and try to restore the data from Tibu.
That being said though, I won't be doing that until I can root, and I don't plan to root until I'm sure I can get everything back to stock.
Thanks a lot to both of you for answering me. I think I got it now. I'm coming from Skyrocket with GB and I'm planning to get the S3 in about august... so probably the rooting won't be a problem for then.
Thanks again...
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I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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I just installed most of my pay apps, some I've started using on my TP instead. I was surprised that SWIFTKEYE X didn't charge me, but I was an original beta tester for them, I didn't like the default Swype keyboard, the predictions were so off, and the Swiftkey does predictions based on my posts, emails, etc.
I had been hopping to restore my many network wifi stuff, but the program that does that isn't compatible with ICS...
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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Also migrated from rooted s3, no luck on app data (had to reenter some), apps that sync to cloud (i.e. google apps) restored data fine. Used samsung smart switch app to migrate call logs, sms, bookmarks, etc..see play store, worked well.
Really? Nobody saves and imports their app data when they switch phones or is it so simple to do that no one wants to tell me how to do it!?
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How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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I use SMS Backup+ for SMS/MMS and call log. Apps and data I didn't really bring with, I started over, except for a couple with their own backup and restore functions, like Llama and Nova Launcher.
I prepared to restore more data using Koush's Helium, but decided against it so that none of the "issues" from my old phone would follow me to the new one...
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You can use Helium (on the app store) by Clockworkmod to back up the app data on unrooted phones (you need to plug into computer first and download a Helium app on the computer). It can backup app data on rooted phones without any issues. Note that saving the backups to external SD card and then transferring the SD card will not work - I don't think Helium has been updated to work with external SDs in KitKat yet. Therefore, use the cloud save or simply sync between your two devices.
I have run into some issues with game saves - for example, restoring a Plants vs Zombie save ended up causing a force close on the program (while PvZ 2 works fine). A couple other games refuse to back up (oddly enough, I never ran into this issue while my GS3 was on Jelly Bean 4.2, only after I updated to 4.3 and went to backup in prep for a move to the GS5). I also generally have bad luck restoring data to apps that have associated "accounts" - i.e. facebook and linkedin, so I take care to avoid restoring those and just login with my new information.
You can also use ADB on your computer to do a manual backup (Helium actually does this technically, it just spoofs your phone into thinking its still plugged in). Apparently this backup solution is a built in part of Android, just never utilized. Its not easy to use, and cannot selectively backup and restore apps unless you know the specific "com.android.xyz" app name. Google "ADB backup android" and you should find some tutorials - there is one on the Nexus forums here on XDA that walks through some of the flags and settings. Be careful to not backup system apps if you do that, you are asking for trouble.
Personally it bugs the crap out of me that there is no app data migration built into Android - yes contacts, calendar, etc can all be stored in the cloud, but why not app data? For all its rhetoric about the cloud and keeping information synced up, its a glaring oversight on Google's part. I think android theoretically restores app data on certain apps (if developers code it the right way) when the initial restore is performed after initially setting up a device, but I have yet to see that work correctly. Plus that initial restore process is full of holes - lots of apps don't re-download. You would think that, in order to sell more phones, at the very least manufacturers would want to make backup/restore as easy as possible. Samsung does have Smart Switch, but it doesn't backup app data and really only restores those items that are likely in the cloud or on SD cards anyway (pictures and contacts).
Even early 2000s blackberries had backup and restore functionality, as did old palm pilots from the 90s.
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
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Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Thanks.
JohnKuczek said:
Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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I've generally done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/MMS. I generally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I've generaly done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/Mook marks nerally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I definately don't want system apps or anything you can log into. I'm only looking to restore call logs, sms/mms, bookmarks and game data. I'll give helium a try when I'm ready to switch.
Hey,
I just recently switched from iphone to android. On iphone if you format the phone you can restore all your apps/texts/ and data. Well i thought android would have this built in by now but when i went back to stock(from rooted and twrp), it deleted all this information but then offered to recover from backup. So i did that and it downloaded all my apps again but it didnt have the data for the apps. It was as if i just installed them. Also texts werent saved. Is this normal? Am i required to use an external app?
Yes, this is normal since Android doesn't have a good built-in backup system in place yet. Apparently, this is supposed to improve in Android N.
For the time being in Lollipop, some app settings are backed up to your Google Drive. You can check to see which ones support this by opening up the Drive app, go to settings, and then click on Manage backups. However, this too is inconsistent because the author of the app decides what kind of settings the app will back up.
For the time being, it can be best to use third party apps. Titanium Backup is a popular one but it requires root for certain functions. SMS backup & Restore is a good app for texts.
Thank you for the clarification
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You can use Titanium
Hello, so I finally have got my phone rooted with Magisk, and now I'm just curious which system/LG/MetroPCS apps are safe to remove? Thanks...
If you are on stock, pretty much any app that has a market download alternative. Browser, calendar, email, lg maps, etc. If you use calendar, do not delete the Calendar Storage app. Every calendar app needs that to function. Don't delete any LG apps that don't have icons. Those are very much part of the LG system and will break one thing or another. Your best bet is to freeze any apps you want to delete and use the phone as you learn what they do that way if you suddenly start getting force close errors you can unfreeze them. Don't go crazy freezing them all. Start with a few, but for the most part those apps that have icons and have alternatives to replace them you can freeze/uninstall. Only way to restore any you accidentally erase will likely require reflashing stock rom because a simple factory reset won't recover them. I learned that hard way uninstalling calendar storage and some other apks that ended up crippling my system.