I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
johnnyutah22 said:
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
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Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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remf4i said:
Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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From their page in app store: *** Notice: App Backup cannot backup data or settings of apps for you, but it only backup the apk files.
caveman999 said:
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
ewingr said:
Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Doh! Sorry. Been reading so much, I"m reverted to skimming too fast.
I too am anxious to get it all going. I suspect it will be fast. But in the meantime, we suffer w/o data updates it would seem.
The price of being on the got to have list early I guess
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
I believe Titanium backs up to your sd card. You install from market on new phone, then place the backup file from Titanium on your sd card to new phone and restore.
agafed said:
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
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First, your GS3 will need to be rooted. (I don't know if TIBU will even install or run if not).
You can install it from the Market, not needed from your old device so that TIBU can restore from them. But, you need the data files that were backed up on your old device.
While TIBU backs up to yoru SD card, you need to get those files over to your new device. Several ways that can happen:
Files put on Google Drive, or DropBox, then moved to new device.
Set your backup directory to an external SD instead of internal SD. That is what I do.
Once you have the files from your old device you can restore to the S3.
I'm assuming your old device is not ICS. So you will NOT want to do system restore.
I've read that people occasionally have issues restoring from TIBU. Just to be safest as possible, I will likely install all my apps from Market, and try to restore the data from Tibu.
That being said though, I won't be doing that until I can root, and I don't plan to root until I'm sure I can get everything back to stock.
Thanks a lot to both of you for answering me. I think I got it now. I'm coming from Skyrocket with GB and I'm planning to get the S3 in about august... so probably the rooting won't be a problem for then.
Thanks again...
johnnyutah22 said:
I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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I just installed most of my pay apps, some I've started using on my TP instead. I was surprised that SWIFTKEYE X didn't charge me, but I was an original beta tester for them, I didn't like the default Swype keyboard, the predictions were so off, and the Swiftkey does predictions based on my posts, emails, etc.
I had been hopping to restore my many network wifi stuff, but the program that does that isn't compatible with ICS...
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I was thinking about rooting my phone but read that I would lose all my data. I backed up my contacts via the export facility in the people application but I'm wondering what happens to my paid apps. Does the market know that I've purchased something or is that info stored on my phone? I just need to know the best way of ensuring that I'll get my paid apps back after I root.
I already backed up the regular apps via Astro. Found a guide on backing up paid apps but you need root to do it for obvious reasons.
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I was thinking about rooting my phone but read that I would lose all my data. I backed up my contacts via the export facility in the people application but I'm wondering what happens to my paid apps. Does the market know that I've purchased something or is that info stored on my phone? I just need to know the best way of ensuring that I'll get my paid apps back after I root.
I already backed up the regular apps via Astro. Found a guide on backing up paid apps but you need root to do it for obvious reasons.
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contacts are backed up with google, don't need to back those up.
The paid apps you just have to go to their market place page again, it will say 'buy' but you don't have to, just click buy and it will install without charging you again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Follow this guide. First, it does unrevoked first only for the purpose of backing up your existing data. Then, the latter half of the process is for the full nand root.
Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob
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Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob
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Yes, most of the time the /data partition is formated. What most of us do is use "Titanium Backup" from the market and back up all out apps before flashing. Then you flash your new rom and let it boot up. Log into the market again and re-install Titanium Backup. Once in TB you hit the menu key -> Batch. In there you should see a option to restore user apps and data.
I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you paid for full version, you wouldn't have to click the install button 200 times. I've tried so many roms/updates that at some point it became a no-brainer to pay for the full version and save myself the pain.
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I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent
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I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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No. Nandroid backs up the whole ROM, restoring that would undo the ROM install you just did. Just get Titanium, it's the only way to fly.
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
If you don't like hitting the button constantly, stop being such a cheap bastard and pay up. It's saved me far more time than the $4 or so I spent on it. Even at $6 it's a bargain if you like to play with ROMs and such. And backup your backup, the internal SD can lose data. I just turned on the Dropbox sync and push the backups up there once in a while.
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I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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If I remember they request 5.99 but if you click the drop down there is a 3.99 option that still gets you the license.
ttabbal said:
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
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im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.
I back up system data and restore selectively, like memos and SMS, etc. Don't batch restore all system data, just the stuff that has content you need.
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ok thank you
Paying for titanium takes the sting out of the wipes that all the best roms do. Break it down to what your time is worth. Once you start flashing roms, you will keep doing it more and more and titanium will be your best friend. If they told me I had to pay a new ten dollars, I wouldn't hesitate.
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oh i already payed for TB. ive used it plenty just on the stock vibrant. its priceless in my opinion so $6 is nothing.
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im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.
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there's a lot of stuff you don't need to back up. i only backup apps i've installed and their data (backup all user apps batch). this then requires me to reenter wifi info, resync contacts, and i lose all text messages, which none of those are a big deal to me and minimizes toying with titanium.
JD76 said:
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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no, but it's recommended to do a nandroid backup before you flash your first rom and you only need to ever do it that once. titanium backup is what you want for backing up apps and stuff before flashing a rom.
Well thanks to you guys I now have bionix final on my phone. And I have the circular blue battery mod which in my opinion looks way better than the stock bionix battery. Easier to read too.
Thanks again, loving this rom
I just switched to the donate version so I could sync it with my dropbox account. I'm very glad I did. It's much easier for me to store things there and have my sd card freed up of some space.
Question though; does titanium backup game save data as well?
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I just tried to backup my fruit ninja & angry birds but it didnt save any of my data
After reading I could back up to Dropbox and batch reload, the $6 bucks for the Pro version of Titanium was a no brainer for me. While I get a certain amount of geeky satisfaction playing with the phone, hitting install repetitivly is not one.
8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??
There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.
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There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.
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I installed "Sandisk Memory Zone" which is able to backup 'SOME' of my data to Skydrive, Dropbox and 8 other online services as well as SD-cards.. I did backup some of my stuff using that service... but not all
Yea - when talking to Droid people, they like to setup their own backup plan...
what i dont understand is why they want that ??
With iPhone i synced with iTunes and ALL setting.. i literally mean ALL SETTINGS... was backed up..
If i lost my iPhone, i plugged a new one into iTunes and 1 hour later im off as if nothing happened... i would love to have such a solution with my HTC One...
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8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??
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We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.
There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.
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We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.
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As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...
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As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...
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Actually the backup and reset feature specifically says "Back up app data, Wi-Fi passwords, and other settings to Google servers", and if you select HTC Account it says "Back up settings, accounts & passwords, bookmarks and apps daily over Wi-Fi".
This is a HTC feature, not an "Android" feature. Apple owns every phone they produce, and thus they can have a unified architecture for their apps and media/backup functions. I'm not defending HTC, or Android. God knows we need a standard backup service that basically copies our whole phone.
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There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
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will check em out. thanks !
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If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
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nice - but seems like it doesn't backup everything
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If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
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Yeah - seems like i need a 7th program to backup my SMS/Call logs ... jebus !
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You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
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Apparently i do... i DID sync my contacts with Google - but i lost some !?!?
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As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
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Yes -- BUT they don't exactly sync BACK to the phone... they just get uploaded to Dropbox / Google+ where they are kind of 'useless'...
HTC One with Sense5 has features like ZOE - and all my data for creating Zoe's are now gone -- or maybe i can transfer my pictures/albums BACK to my One ??
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For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.
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HTC Sync is able to sync FROM itunes to the One ... but doesn't remember my sync options like iTunes... meaning i have to re-do everything manually
Sandisk Memory Zone is able to sync my music to the cloud - but i don't know if it also restore my playlists and stuff like that
all in all i'm not that impressed with Android so far
Those were just the options you have, you don't actually need to use "7th app" for anything. I just showed that if you need to backup ONLY sms/calls that you can do that. Titanium Backup for example can backup everything except the files. For files I suggest you use FolderSync which can backup to any cloud out there, including your own ftp/dav/s3/samba folder.
Or you can go back to iPhone and regret it
The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.
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The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.
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this is what happened...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291734
do you think its caused by accessibility ?
This is bad
On my sgs3 with samsung account I can backup phone logs, memos, messages, calendar, bookmarks. I use Spotify so my music/playlists are always there no matter what device I'm using.
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If you are rooted, I'm surprised no one mentioned Rom Toolbox Pro. Backs up apps and data to internal or external storage, dropbox, box, etc...
More importantly provides a very complete tool set for installing roms, themes, and a host of other utilities to numerous to mention. Anyway, I'm not affiliated in any way, just have been using it for a long time and don't even bother with TiBackup or Rom Manager stuff anymore. Usually this is the first app I load after fresh installs to bring all my apps back.
Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.
Also remember to transfer your back ups made titanium back up or my back up pro to dropbox or your computer because when you perform a factory reset I believe it formats your internal sdcard also. So your back up is gone, too.
You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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The built in backup leaves out a few things. I decided to try it on my last everyday romswap, and most things got back, but without settings, passwords and so on. Imo pretty useless.
Go for helium backup or titanium instead. If they fix it, perfect, exactly what I need
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What I don't understand is since the introduction of ICS, Android has a built-in backup function accessible via ADB commands even without having to root your phone. This (as far as I'm aware) is available to ALL Android devices running 4.0 ICS or later. Why then are OEM's not including a backup function with their desktop software? If developers here on XDA can create small executable files to run a backup on our devices, then surely it can't be that difficult to integrate a similar function into something like HTC Sync??
With regards HTC Backup one the One, I haven't tried that as I used Helium backup when I reset my phone. Works perfectly even without root.
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You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
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Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.
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good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong
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Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong
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Here's what I did basically. I used the built-in SMS backup feature, manually forced a whatsapp backup (only the automatic 4am backup is saved on SD, unless you force a backup) and backed up my contacts with Go Contacts (I just don't know how Google Contacts work, just wasn't ever that reliable to me). With these 3 done, I did the Backup & Reset thing. Then I copied my whole SD to my hard drive. Done
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
rotzy said:
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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Also migrated from rooted s3, no luck on app data (had to reenter some), apps that sync to cloud (i.e. google apps) restored data fine. Used samsung smart switch app to migrate call logs, sms, bookmarks, etc..see play store, worked well.
Really? Nobody saves and imports their app data when they switch phones or is it so simple to do that no one wants to tell me how to do it!?
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How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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I use SMS Backup+ for SMS/MMS and call log. Apps and data I didn't really bring with, I started over, except for a couple with their own backup and restore functions, like Llama and Nova Launcher.
I prepared to restore more data using Koush's Helium, but decided against it so that none of the "issues" from my old phone would follow me to the new one...
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You can use Helium (on the app store) by Clockworkmod to back up the app data on unrooted phones (you need to plug into computer first and download a Helium app on the computer). It can backup app data on rooted phones without any issues. Note that saving the backups to external SD card and then transferring the SD card will not work - I don't think Helium has been updated to work with external SDs in KitKat yet. Therefore, use the cloud save or simply sync between your two devices.
I have run into some issues with game saves - for example, restoring a Plants vs Zombie save ended up causing a force close on the program (while PvZ 2 works fine). A couple other games refuse to back up (oddly enough, I never ran into this issue while my GS3 was on Jelly Bean 4.2, only after I updated to 4.3 and went to backup in prep for a move to the GS5). I also generally have bad luck restoring data to apps that have associated "accounts" - i.e. facebook and linkedin, so I take care to avoid restoring those and just login with my new information.
You can also use ADB on your computer to do a manual backup (Helium actually does this technically, it just spoofs your phone into thinking its still plugged in). Apparently this backup solution is a built in part of Android, just never utilized. Its not easy to use, and cannot selectively backup and restore apps unless you know the specific "com.android.xyz" app name. Google "ADB backup android" and you should find some tutorials - there is one on the Nexus forums here on XDA that walks through some of the flags and settings. Be careful to not backup system apps if you do that, you are asking for trouble.
Personally it bugs the crap out of me that there is no app data migration built into Android - yes contacts, calendar, etc can all be stored in the cloud, but why not app data? For all its rhetoric about the cloud and keeping information synced up, its a glaring oversight on Google's part. I think android theoretically restores app data on certain apps (if developers code it the right way) when the initial restore is performed after initially setting up a device, but I have yet to see that work correctly. Plus that initial restore process is full of holes - lots of apps don't re-download. You would think that, in order to sell more phones, at the very least manufacturers would want to make backup/restore as easy as possible. Samsung does have Smart Switch, but it doesn't backup app data and really only restores those items that are likely in the cloud or on SD cards anyway (pictures and contacts).
Even early 2000s blackberries had backup and restore functionality, as did old palm pilots from the 90s.
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
rotzy said:
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Thanks.
JohnKuczek said:
Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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I've generally done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/MMS. I generally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I've generaly done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/Mook marks nerally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I definately don't want system apps or anything you can log into. I'm only looking to restore call logs, sms/mms, bookmarks and game data. I'll give helium a try when I'm ready to switch.
Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?
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Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?
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Go to Play store and download the LG Backup (sender) to your current phone(old device)
Open the app, select how to transfer (probably wirelessly) on the V20 go to LG Backup - receive data and then hit start on the old device.
Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.
My V20 is supposed to be delivered today. My plan is to use the LG Backup to transfer apps, then Helium to transfer most of the app data. There are some app that Helium can't backup but most of them just needs a login/password to get back up and running.
edit: batch restoring with Helium is usually not as smooth as the backup part. I normally would get random errors that Helium has stopped during restore. But when you open Helium again after the error, you can see which apps restored and which apps didn't so you can manually restore individual ones.
I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.
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I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.
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does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?
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does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?
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It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.
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It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.
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I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.
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I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.
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The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.
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The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.
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Good to know, thanks.
LG backup is so slow and error-prone because data transfer size is so big. It zip files and send over BT(?)
so helium backup is good one?
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Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.
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You are right. Much easier on an iPhone to transfer to a new iPhone. Android sucks when getting a new phone although Google tried to make it a little easier in the Pixel.