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I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
johnnyutah22 said:
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
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Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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remf4i said:
Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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From their page in app store: *** Notice: App Backup cannot backup data or settings of apps for you, but it only backup the apk files.
caveman999 said:
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
ewingr said:
Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
caveman999 said:
Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Doh! Sorry. Been reading so much, I"m reverted to skimming too fast.
I too am anxious to get it all going. I suspect it will be fast. But in the meantime, we suffer w/o data updates it would seem.
The price of being on the got to have list early I guess
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
I believe Titanium backs up to your sd card. You install from market on new phone, then place the backup file from Titanium on your sd card to new phone and restore.
agafed said:
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
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First, your GS3 will need to be rooted. (I don't know if TIBU will even install or run if not).
You can install it from the Market, not needed from your old device so that TIBU can restore from them. But, you need the data files that were backed up on your old device.
While TIBU backs up to yoru SD card, you need to get those files over to your new device. Several ways that can happen:
Files put on Google Drive, or DropBox, then moved to new device.
Set your backup directory to an external SD instead of internal SD. That is what I do.
Once you have the files from your old device you can restore to the S3.
I'm assuming your old device is not ICS. So you will NOT want to do system restore.
I've read that people occasionally have issues restoring from TIBU. Just to be safest as possible, I will likely install all my apps from Market, and try to restore the data from Tibu.
That being said though, I won't be doing that until I can root, and I don't plan to root until I'm sure I can get everything back to stock.
Thanks a lot to both of you for answering me. I think I got it now. I'm coming from Skyrocket with GB and I'm planning to get the S3 in about august... so probably the rooting won't be a problem for then.
Thanks again...
johnnyutah22 said:
I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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I just installed most of my pay apps, some I've started using on my TP instead. I was surprised that SWIFTKEYE X didn't charge me, but I was an original beta tester for them, I didn't like the default Swype keyboard, the predictions were so off, and the Swiftkey does predictions based on my posts, emails, etc.
I had been hopping to restore my many network wifi stuff, but the program that does that isn't compatible with ICS...
During the holidays, I made films of my kids, using my Nexus 7. I have watched them several times since, but now they've all disappeared. I must have deleted them by mistake. Is it like in Windows where one can restore binned items? Any chance of retrieving them somehow? Thanks for any help!
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During the holidays, I made films of my kids, using my Nexus 7. I have watched them several times since, but now they've all disappeared. I must have deleted them by mistake. Is it like in Windows where one can restore binned items? Any chance of retrieving them somehow? Thanks for any help!
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You can try a program called recuva. Google search for it and install it on your pc. Then connect your N7 to the PC and scan it with recuva. If it is able to find them, you can restore them to the PC.
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Thanks but it doesn't give me the option of scanning the N7...
Any more ideas?
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I've now tried various pieces of similar software, but they don't seem to recognise the Nexus 7 even though my PC does. Is there another solution?
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I don't think that any PC-based recovery programs will work because the Nexus 7 gets mounted as a media device, not as a mass storage device. You can try Undelete for Root Users in the Play Store (I've never tried it myself) but you need to be rooted to use it. If you're not rooted, then you're in a catch 22 because you need to wipe the device in order to root it, which might eliminate your chances for recovery. You should also make sure that you're not using the Nexus 7 for anything other than recovery during this time because you might be overwriting your videos as you use it.
In short I can't recover the movies because I am not already rooted? Or is there hope if I root my device as early as tomorrow?
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In short I can't recover the movies because I am not already rooted? Or is there hope if I root my device as early as tomorrow?
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The process of Rooting is not your problem. Unlocking the bootloader is. THAT wipes your device. You cannot root without an unlocked bootloader.
There is a way to do a full backup without having root, but it most likely would not provide you with any relief since it only backs up valid objects. A deleted file is not a valid object.
Having a backup of your data would have been your rescue... learning the hard way...
Yes, I should have been more clear that it's unlocking the bootloader that will wipe your device, which is a prerequisite for rooting. Unfortunately, unless you've already unlocked your bootloader, it seems that you have no options for file recovery outside of the forensic route (paying an expert to take your device apart and do a low level recovery, which is quite costly). If these videos are truly something that you can't live without, then I think that this is your last resort. If you don't plan to go the forensic route, then I suppose you have nothing to lose by trying to root now, but don't forget that unlocking the bootloader will wipe the entire device, meaning not only will you lose the existing data on the device, but it might overwrite your deleted videos, so if you're considering going the forensic route at all, DO NOT UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER (caps added for dramatic effect).
I'd call them lost, and use a "real" camera on the next holiday. Can't image the quality of an N7 movie.
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I'd call them lost, and use a "real" camera on the next holiday. Can't image the quality of an N7 movie.
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LOL, not bad at all actually!
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Ok, I rooted my device. No sign of the clips when using a recovery app. But I wanted to root it anyway, so never mind!
Now that you are rooted, setup a backup process so that in the future you don't have to go through this. I personally do a full nandroid backups at a minimum of once a week (use Sundays as backup date). But I also backup my media stuff as well since the Nandroid only backs up system, apps and app data, not really the SDcard memory.
Anytime I make a big change, I do a backup as well. The whole process takes less than 10 minutes, but if I lose/destroy my device, I can take a brand new one, restore and be right back to where I was.
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Now that you are rooted, setup a backup process so that in the future you don't have to go through this. I personally do a full nandroid backups at a minimum of once a week (use Sundays as backup date). But I also backup my media stuff as well since the Nandroid only backs up system, apps and app data, not really the SDcard memory.
Anytime I make a big change, I do a backup as well. The whole process takes less than 10 minutes, but if I lose/destroy my device, I can take a brand new one, restore and be right back to where I was.
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I think people miss the intended use of cloud storage on mobile devices . I use google docs Box . And my ftp site my ftp mostly.. Set up some type cloud sync storage for the folders your store your data on the device. data/media is a good but will be quite large to sync.. make it a habbit to save to cloud and this will not happen.. Once you start using cloud base storage you will find it less intrusive and the extra steps will be worth it..
if your say at a friends house and want to see a image or open a created document and do not have your nexus just got o the storage url and there is your stuff... NIce and fairly safe.. i backup to to ftp.. and sync the ftp with desktop storage drive. So if either of the 3 devices or two of the 3 loose my stuff Its in the cloud..
PLEASE READ THE POLICY Of the cloud storage you choose.. Personal web ftp base storage is best if you want your stuff to be TOTALLY CONFIDENTIAL...
JUST LIKE YOUR PC . BACKUP IS A MUST ON ANDROID DEVICES...
Cloud storage is nice and all, but time consuming, especially for video files and many times not a good backup solution. You end up with pieces and parts all over the place and no easy quick restore of all of your data from a single source.
I use the following guide to confirm backup and know I can restore every time 100% of the time, Cant ensure that with cloud storage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20868527
That plus it is on MY equipment, not someones elses I have no control over and my workstation has triple redundant backups itself ensuring I don't lose stuff.
If backups are hard, time consuming or take too long, people simply won't do them.
I'm not sure if this works on the Nexus7 too but Google+ app has a tool in the settings to auto upload pictures /videos. You can set it to auto upload when it's on WiFi and charging or when there's new pictures (and WiFi of course lol)
I have my 3VO automatically backup images and vids since those are usually unreplaceble unlike apps and downloads
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LOL, not bad at all actually!
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Are you sure they are gone? have you used a file manager to look in the various directories? Maybe an app created a nomedia file in the dir and you cant see them. Quickpic has an option of showing hidden folders (nomedia hides the folders from media apps)
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Are you sure they are gone? have you used a file manager to look in the various directories? Maybe an app created a nomedia file in the dir and you cant see them. Quickpic has an option of showing hidden folders (nomedia hides the folders from media apps)
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Well, if they weren't gone before, they're gone now because the OP unlocked the bootloader to root the device, which wiped everything.
8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??
There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.
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There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.
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I installed "Sandisk Memory Zone" which is able to backup 'SOME' of my data to Skydrive, Dropbox and 8 other online services as well as SD-cards.. I did backup some of my stuff using that service... but not all
Yea - when talking to Droid people, they like to setup their own backup plan...
what i dont understand is why they want that ??
With iPhone i synced with iTunes and ALL setting.. i literally mean ALL SETTINGS... was backed up..
If i lost my iPhone, i plugged a new one into iTunes and 1 hour later im off as if nothing happened... i would love to have such a solution with my HTC One...
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8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??
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We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.
There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.
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We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.
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As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...
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As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...
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Actually the backup and reset feature specifically says "Back up app data, Wi-Fi passwords, and other settings to Google servers", and if you select HTC Account it says "Back up settings, accounts & passwords, bookmarks and apps daily over Wi-Fi".
This is a HTC feature, not an "Android" feature. Apple owns every phone they produce, and thus they can have a unified architecture for their apps and media/backup functions. I'm not defending HTC, or Android. God knows we need a standard backup service that basically copies our whole phone.
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There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
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will check em out. thanks !
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If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
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nice - but seems like it doesn't backup everything
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If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
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Yeah - seems like i need a 7th program to backup my SMS/Call logs ... jebus !
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You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
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Apparently i do... i DID sync my contacts with Google - but i lost some !?!?
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As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
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Yes -- BUT they don't exactly sync BACK to the phone... they just get uploaded to Dropbox / Google+ where they are kind of 'useless'...
HTC One with Sense5 has features like ZOE - and all my data for creating Zoe's are now gone -- or maybe i can transfer my pictures/albums BACK to my One ??
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For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.
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HTC Sync is able to sync FROM itunes to the One ... but doesn't remember my sync options like iTunes... meaning i have to re-do everything manually
Sandisk Memory Zone is able to sync my music to the cloud - but i don't know if it also restore my playlists and stuff like that
all in all i'm not that impressed with Android so far
Those were just the options you have, you don't actually need to use "7th app" for anything. I just showed that if you need to backup ONLY sms/calls that you can do that. Titanium Backup for example can backup everything except the files. For files I suggest you use FolderSync which can backup to any cloud out there, including your own ftp/dav/s3/samba folder.
Or you can go back to iPhone and regret it
The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.
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The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.
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this is what happened...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291734
do you think its caused by accessibility ?
This is bad
On my sgs3 with samsung account I can backup phone logs, memos, messages, calendar, bookmarks. I use Spotify so my music/playlists are always there no matter what device I'm using.
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If you are rooted, I'm surprised no one mentioned Rom Toolbox Pro. Backs up apps and data to internal or external storage, dropbox, box, etc...
More importantly provides a very complete tool set for installing roms, themes, and a host of other utilities to numerous to mention. Anyway, I'm not affiliated in any way, just have been using it for a long time and don't even bother with TiBackup or Rom Manager stuff anymore. Usually this is the first app I load after fresh installs to bring all my apps back.
Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.
Also remember to transfer your back ups made titanium back up or my back up pro to dropbox or your computer because when you perform a factory reset I believe it formats your internal sdcard also. So your back up is gone, too.
You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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The built in backup leaves out a few things. I decided to try it on my last everyday romswap, and most things got back, but without settings, passwords and so on. Imo pretty useless.
Go for helium backup or titanium instead. If they fix it, perfect, exactly what I need
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What I don't understand is since the introduction of ICS, Android has a built-in backup function accessible via ADB commands even without having to root your phone. This (as far as I'm aware) is available to ALL Android devices running 4.0 ICS or later. Why then are OEM's not including a backup function with their desktop software? If developers here on XDA can create small executable files to run a backup on our devices, then surely it can't be that difficult to integrate a similar function into something like HTC Sync??
With regards HTC Backup one the One, I haven't tried that as I used Helium backup when I reset my phone. Works perfectly even without root.
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You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
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Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.
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good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong
Montago said:
Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong
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Here's what I did basically. I used the built-in SMS backup feature, manually forced a whatsapp backup (only the automatic 4am backup is saved on SD, unless you force a backup) and backed up my contacts with Go Contacts (I just don't know how Google Contacts work, just wasn't ever that reliable to me). With these 3 done, I did the Backup & Reset thing. Then I copied my whole SD to my hard drive. Done
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
rotzy said:
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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Also migrated from rooted s3, no luck on app data (had to reenter some), apps that sync to cloud (i.e. google apps) restored data fine. Used samsung smart switch app to migrate call logs, sms, bookmarks, etc..see play store, worked well.
Really? Nobody saves and imports their app data when they switch phones or is it so simple to do that no one wants to tell me how to do it!?
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How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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I use SMS Backup+ for SMS/MMS and call log. Apps and data I didn't really bring with, I started over, except for a couple with their own backup and restore functions, like Llama and Nova Launcher.
I prepared to restore more data using Koush's Helium, but decided against it so that none of the "issues" from my old phone would follow me to the new one...
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You can use Helium (on the app store) by Clockworkmod to back up the app data on unrooted phones (you need to plug into computer first and download a Helium app on the computer). It can backup app data on rooted phones without any issues. Note that saving the backups to external SD card and then transferring the SD card will not work - I don't think Helium has been updated to work with external SDs in KitKat yet. Therefore, use the cloud save or simply sync between your two devices.
I have run into some issues with game saves - for example, restoring a Plants vs Zombie save ended up causing a force close on the program (while PvZ 2 works fine). A couple other games refuse to back up (oddly enough, I never ran into this issue while my GS3 was on Jelly Bean 4.2, only after I updated to 4.3 and went to backup in prep for a move to the GS5). I also generally have bad luck restoring data to apps that have associated "accounts" - i.e. facebook and linkedin, so I take care to avoid restoring those and just login with my new information.
You can also use ADB on your computer to do a manual backup (Helium actually does this technically, it just spoofs your phone into thinking its still plugged in). Apparently this backup solution is a built in part of Android, just never utilized. Its not easy to use, and cannot selectively backup and restore apps unless you know the specific "com.android.xyz" app name. Google "ADB backup android" and you should find some tutorials - there is one on the Nexus forums here on XDA that walks through some of the flags and settings. Be careful to not backup system apps if you do that, you are asking for trouble.
Personally it bugs the crap out of me that there is no app data migration built into Android - yes contacts, calendar, etc can all be stored in the cloud, but why not app data? For all its rhetoric about the cloud and keeping information synced up, its a glaring oversight on Google's part. I think android theoretically restores app data on certain apps (if developers code it the right way) when the initial restore is performed after initially setting up a device, but I have yet to see that work correctly. Plus that initial restore process is full of holes - lots of apps don't re-download. You would think that, in order to sell more phones, at the very least manufacturers would want to make backup/restore as easy as possible. Samsung does have Smart Switch, but it doesn't backup app data and really only restores those items that are likely in the cloud or on SD cards anyway (pictures and contacts).
Even early 2000s blackberries had backup and restore functionality, as did old palm pilots from the 90s.
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
rotzy said:
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Thanks.
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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I've generally done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/MMS. I generally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I've generaly done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/Mook marks nerally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I definately don't want system apps or anything you can log into. I'm only looking to restore call logs, sms/mms, bookmarks and game data. I'll give helium a try when I'm ready to switch.
Hey,
I just recently switched from iphone to android. On iphone if you format the phone you can restore all your apps/texts/ and data. Well i thought android would have this built in by now but when i went back to stock(from rooted and twrp), it deleted all this information but then offered to recover from backup. So i did that and it downloaded all my apps again but it didnt have the data for the apps. It was as if i just installed them. Also texts werent saved. Is this normal? Am i required to use an external app?
Yes, this is normal since Android doesn't have a good built-in backup system in place yet. Apparently, this is supposed to improve in Android N.
For the time being in Lollipop, some app settings are backed up to your Google Drive. You can check to see which ones support this by opening up the Drive app, go to settings, and then click on Manage backups. However, this too is inconsistent because the author of the app decides what kind of settings the app will back up.
For the time being, it can be best to use third party apps. Titanium Backup is a popular one but it requires root for certain functions. SMS backup & Restore is a good app for texts.
Thank you for the clarification
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You can use Titanium