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since i was unable to find the proper answer to fix the problem the easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793254
i had to go it the hard way
just went ahead and Wiped my phone.
it was less painful than i though it'll be, it was within the calculated parameters of the process involved to get your device up to speed in record time in a massive failure
so once the phone booted back into the OS, the very first thing i did was to setup APN
then sign in to my gmail account, BAM! got all my pictures, phones, contacts, calendars, etc, every thing back
then next task was to install AppsBrain, hit sync and BAM! i got my list of 400+ apps to install back
now i'm clicking through about 800 times install, okay, continue LOL :r
and i'm rather surprise Android Market, and the OS hasn't crapped out on me yet with the massive deluge of files action
it's install faster than i though... only 200+ apps to go
and about 15+ more email / IM accounts to join back into the system, and reconfiguring 400 apps
the Titanium Backup backed up files got wiped out in the process
at least i'm getting a good vibe out of this, it means the upgrade to Froyo will be just the same
the phone is HOT of all the 3.5G activity
the actual 3 button reboot to Recovery Mode + Wipe data and reboot back took less than a minute.
chances of missing a call during this time is quite low
SMS will be downloaded as soon as your phone goes back into OS, so chances of missing out on an important SMS is very unlikely
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
AllGamer said:
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
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Really? Maybe i should wipe my device to
Installing more than 3 apps at the same moment.... it´s just a pain...
exactly, normally when you try to download and install 4 apps simultaneously it gets sooooooo slow, worse than a snail
but for some odd reason right now that is not happening, it's smooth download and install, i wonder that's the difference
recommend you buy/install mybackup pro.. you can reinstall a bunch of apps without it prompting you for each one... i think if you pay for titanium backup it does the same..
i frequently copy the appmanager (diff app i use) and titanium backup directoryies from internal to external sd so i have have a backup in case of a full reset ..
i also set mybackup pro to backup directly to external sd.
yeah, that was my problem i forgot to move a copy of titanium backup from internal SD to external SD
otherwise i'd not have had to go thorugh 800+ clicks to say OK to everything
LOL
well... after aprox 250+ apps/games installed the phone is going back to its old self slooooooooow when you try to install 2 or more apps concurrently.
and the list of Manage Apps takes a while to load up
so it seems like the sweet spot is to keep less than 200 apps on the phone to keep it running silky smooth
Thanks for the report and the painless part, AllGamer.
May have to try it one of these days if I screw up.
After reading you post, I move the Titanium Backups to SDcard
just so I don't forget. Now have to remember to update it.
I can't even imagine how you have 800 apps on your phone. I just counted and I have 21, and to me that is a lot, but perfect.
not 800 it's 400 but for each install you need 2 click
so that's 800 clicks
Can you do a write up on step by step how to wipe and reinstall the (JH2) ROM, kernal, modem etc for i9000M?
Have a replacement coming tomorrow, had a problem with it not taking a charge. I have several apps (some paid, some not), rooted (z4) and have LauncherPro (pretty sure email still has my license #?).
I rooted for wifi tethering but never deodexed or ran any custom roms so have never had a need to back up. What is the best way to back up everything the way I have it now (settings, apps, contacts, etc) so when I get my replacement I can root (z4 again I would assume) and reload my backup without having to manually chase it all down again?
Thanks in advance.
Titanium backup seems to be the favorite, but it's annoying to use for me and not very intuitive.
I prefer My Backup Pro. You can backup to sdcard OR online. You can backup just the data or the app and the data, etc. Lots of features, and easy to use.
I prefer and use Titanium. I think it is really easy to use and does a great job. Worth the 5 or 6 bucks that it costs.
I use Titanium Backup PRO. It gets the job done.
I like titanium backup pro, works pretty well so far.
I also use Titanium Backup Pro. If you don't plan to run a different ROM, you will be able to restore everything with almost no pain.
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Another vote for Titanium Backup Pro here. What's really nice about it is that it can "freeze" apps in addition to uninstalling them. So I froze all the bloatware apps so they don't run, but they're still on my phone. When Verizon releases an OS update, I unfreeze the apps before doing the OTA update so it's as close to stock as possible. After the OTA, I re-freeze them. Makes for a trouble-free update.
Another feature is that it integrates with Dropbox to back up your phone to the cloud, making it easier to restore to a different phone.
a vote for Droid X Bootstrapper Recovery
i've experienced a problem with the phone dialer and needed to do a number of backup/restore functions. The bootstrapper mentioned not only does a thorough job, but it has an advanced feature that lets you backup/restore separate portions of the phone.
hold on a sec, i'll boot it up and give you the list.
the main screen has a number of options:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- backup and restore
- mounts and storage
- advanced
the vol up/down keys are used to highlight an option, and the camera button is used to select it. when you choose backup and restore, you get 3 options:
- backup
- restore
- advanced restore
if you chose advanced restore, you are presented with a dated list of all the backups you've done with the utility. pick one, press the camera button and you get 5 options:
- Restore boot
- Restore system
- Restore data
- Restore cache
- Restore sd-ext.
I have done the restore system several times now experimenting to find a solution to a phone dialer problem. i was bouncing between 2.3.151 and 2.3.340. all my installed applications and data stayed exactly the same each time.
i really like it.
"i'm just saying..."
marvin
Thanks everyone. With Titanium can I essentially back up my old device exactly the way it is to my SD card. Activate the new device, install Titanium, and restore that identical copy from the same card? That seems almost too easy but if it takes into consideration licenses already paid for and such, that is basically what I'm looking for.
DNak206 said:
Thanks everyone. With Titanium can I essentially back up my old device exactly the way it is to my SD card. Activate the new device, install Titanium, and restore that identical copy from the same card? That seems almost too easy but if it takes into consideration licenses already paid for and such, that is basically what I'm looking for.
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I never had a need to replace my Droid, so I personally haven't tried it, but that's what they claim. Some apps may no longer work if it inspects the phone ID for licensing purposes. Tasker is one of them. You'll need to contact the app developer for these cases.
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I never had a need to replace my Droid, so I personally haven't tried it, but that's what they claim. Some apps may no longer work if it inspects the phone ID for licensing purposes. Tasker is one of them. You'll need to contact the app developer for these cases.
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Thanks, will give it a whirl then. I have paid for Tasker and Launcher Pro Plus along with a few others, those are my primary concerns. The settings and adding my contacts and emails and such would take a few minutes, but not a big deal.
I just made a backup in cw then restored it on my new dx and had 0 problems. It was like I didn't even switch phones (minus the defect on the old one). It was almost TOO easy lol.
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So far my understanding is that if user 1 downloads/installs an app, and then user 2 goes "hmm you know what I want that app too" - it doesn't re download it just gives user 2 access to the already installed app. Which is cool, cuz apps are in /data/app.
But some apps, mostly games and so on, download extra data onto the sdcard. Now currently I assume none of them work cuz they look for the non existing /sdcard instead of /mnt/sdcard/0 or something; my question is how is this SUPPOSED to work? If user 1 download GTA3, downloads the data onto his folder in sdcard, then user 2 does the same thing, will i have to redownload all that data and thus use up twice the space? do they have another system for data saved in sdcard and multiuser?
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So far my understanding is that if user 1 downloads/installs an app, and then user 2 goes "hmm you know what I want that app too" - it doesn't re download it just gives user 2 access to the already installed app. Which is cool, cuz apps are in /data/app.
But some apps, mostly games and so on, download extra data onto the sdcard. Now currently I assume none of them work cuz they look for the non existing /sdcard instead of /mnt/sdcard/0 or something; my question is how is this SUPPOSED to work? If user 1 download GTA3, downloads the data onto his folder in sdcard, then user 2 does the same thing, will i have to redownload all that data and thus use up twice the space? do they have another system for data saved in sdcard and multiuser?
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Found this and the answer looks promising
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21327/android-42-multiuser-support
"With apps, the system is intelligent: If one user goes into the Play Store and installs an app that another user has already downloaded onto the tablet, Android will "install" the app for the user -- basically making it available to her -- but won't actually redownload it. And that user's app-specific data and settings will remain separate from other users' information; when a new user opens the app, it's as if the app is being opened for the first time. I tested this with a handful of apps, including third-party programs like Facebook, and it worked flawlessly."
I haven't tried it myself but its something I wanted to understand too.
TimmyUK said:
Found this and the answer looks promising
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21327/android-42-multiuser-support
"With apps, the system is intelligent: If one user goes into the Play Store and installs an app that another user has already downloaded onto the tablet, Android will "install" the app for the user -- basically making it available to her -- but won't actually redownload it. And that user's app-specific data and settings will remain separate from other users' information; when a new user opens the app, it's as if the app is being opened for the first time. I tested this with a handful of apps, including third-party programs like Facebook, and it worked flawlessly."
I haven't tried it myself but its something I wanted to understand too.
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The thing is unlike stuff like "facebook details" or smthg, game data is NOT private or user specific. duplicating serves no purpose. The only way to change i spose is to get all extra game data etc to go into /data/<whatever> instead of in an sdcard folder. .
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
rotzy said:
How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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Also migrated from rooted s3, no luck on app data (had to reenter some), apps that sync to cloud (i.e. google apps) restored data fine. Used samsung smart switch app to migrate call logs, sms, bookmarks, etc..see play store, worked well.
Really? Nobody saves and imports their app data when they switch phones or is it so simple to do that no one wants to tell me how to do it!?
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How did you guys restore apps and data along with sms/mms, call history and bookmarks from your previous phone? I am coming from a rooted gs3 and would like to figure this out before I make the leap to the gs5. I have always used and loved titanium backup but know it won't work without root.
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I use SMS Backup+ for SMS/MMS and call log. Apps and data I didn't really bring with, I started over, except for a couple with their own backup and restore functions, like Llama and Nova Launcher.
I prepared to restore more data using Koush's Helium, but decided against it so that none of the "issues" from my old phone would follow me to the new one...
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You can use Helium (on the app store) by Clockworkmod to back up the app data on unrooted phones (you need to plug into computer first and download a Helium app on the computer). It can backup app data on rooted phones without any issues. Note that saving the backups to external SD card and then transferring the SD card will not work - I don't think Helium has been updated to work with external SDs in KitKat yet. Therefore, use the cloud save or simply sync between your two devices.
I have run into some issues with game saves - for example, restoring a Plants vs Zombie save ended up causing a force close on the program (while PvZ 2 works fine). A couple other games refuse to back up (oddly enough, I never ran into this issue while my GS3 was on Jelly Bean 4.2, only after I updated to 4.3 and went to backup in prep for a move to the GS5). I also generally have bad luck restoring data to apps that have associated "accounts" - i.e. facebook and linkedin, so I take care to avoid restoring those and just login with my new information.
You can also use ADB on your computer to do a manual backup (Helium actually does this technically, it just spoofs your phone into thinking its still plugged in). Apparently this backup solution is a built in part of Android, just never utilized. Its not easy to use, and cannot selectively backup and restore apps unless you know the specific "com.android.xyz" app name. Google "ADB backup android" and you should find some tutorials - there is one on the Nexus forums here on XDA that walks through some of the flags and settings. Be careful to not backup system apps if you do that, you are asking for trouble.
Personally it bugs the crap out of me that there is no app data migration built into Android - yes contacts, calendar, etc can all be stored in the cloud, but why not app data? For all its rhetoric about the cloud and keeping information synced up, its a glaring oversight on Google's part. I think android theoretically restores app data on certain apps (if developers code it the right way) when the initial restore is performed after initially setting up a device, but I have yet to see that work correctly. Plus that initial restore process is full of holes - lots of apps don't re-download. You would think that, in order to sell more phones, at the very least manufacturers would want to make backup/restore as easy as possible. Samsung does have Smart Switch, but it doesn't backup app data and really only restores those items that are likely in the cloud or on SD cards anyway (pictures and contacts).
Even early 2000s blackberries had backup and restore functionality, as did old palm pilots from the 90s.
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
rotzy said:
Thanks Rlin5741.
I've read such contradictory reviews about Helium that I didn't want to try it without hearing from someone here. Are you saying it is possible to plug my rooted GS3 into the computer and backup apps and data with Helium and then restore them onto the new phone OR would I need to plug both phones in and transfer directly?
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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Thanks.
JohnKuczek said:
Rooted GS3 can back up to Drive without a PC. New GS5 will need to be connected to a PC to restore.
You don't have to have both at once.
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I've generally done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/MMS. I generally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I've generaly done very selective backups - game saves, etc, and perhaps call logs and SMS/Mook marks nerally do not back up system apps (especially if you are moving to a different model phone), any app that has an associated "account" (email, facebook, linkedin) because those apps have deeper integration with the system. If you do not backup system apps, and selectively backup others, if you still run into issues you can clear app data through the app manager; that should clear out any restores.
Since Helium uses Android's built in, hidden backup functionality, it actually refuses to back up certain apps - such as Google Authenticator. I think app developers can flag their apps to prohibit backups for security reasons.
More on Android's built in backup solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351). I DO NOT recommend doing the full backup from your old phone and restoring it on your GS5 - the full backup will hit all apps. At the very least, use the flag to avoid system files.
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I definately don't want system apps or anything you can log into. I'm only looking to restore call logs, sms/mms, bookmarks and game data. I'll give helium a try when I'm ready to switch.
I have been informed when you unlock the boatloader your device storage is wiped. I have no problem with files like pictures, video, etc. because I have all that kind of stuff backed up to the cloud, but I would LOVE to avoid having to reinstall every app, but more importantly signing in to them again and changing all the settings to my liking. Is there any app I can use pre-root to backup apps, app data, app settings, and transfer that to my device post-root? I am not sure how much this matters, but almost all my apps are from Google Play, and I don't want to have to install an .apk of an app that is separate from the Play Store when there is a version on the Play Store. Not sure if that made any sense, but TL;DR if it's on the Play Store, I wanna keep it that way.
Thanks!
Helium.