Anyone jumping to the note 8 following launch this weds?
I think for the first time since the note series was launched, I for one will not be jumping in feet first for the following reasons:
My S8+ was worth £240 less after 6 weeks of ownership.
The cost of the note 8 will be ridiculous (almost £1000 going by reports) and based on the above I should be able to pick one up at 40% off in 2 months time!
Loving my note 7 mk3....err note FE.
Samsung are not indicating any discounts for note 7 victims therefore my loyalty is waning.
Anyone else think phones are starting to cost too much?
I will never get rid of my FE...never lol.
Im with you on the 8 though for once I wont pre-order etc etc...
Ive got a few issues with it:
Fingerprint reader still in a stupid spot...my nexus 6p had it in a perfect spot.
Dual camera assembly/bump appearance absolutely ruins the asthetics of the rear of the phone.
Not a huge fan of the screen aspect ratio
And sammy should be discounting the 8 for those of us that went through that train wreck of a recall.. i bought my FE full price bought my S8 plus full price...ive stayed loyal to sammy after all the BS last year. They owe former note 7 people a break.
The colour selection stinks black, dark blue or maple gold only? Wtf?
My s8 is maple gold and its okay but I wouldnt buy it again.
Wheres silver? Silver is what i want.
So yeah i may go another route this year. V30, pixel XL 2, mate 10, HTC U11 hell maybe even the iPhone 8 plus version lol..
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With all the "hands-on" videos coming out I admit it looks very pretty. But I feel like I made the right decision with the Note FE. Like some have said before I just don't like the aspect ratio, I get that its more space for reading and multi-window but for me I watch alot of videos.... and from having the s8+ I didnt like the crop to fit option.
The only major "pro" I see is the Camera, but I dont feel its worth selling my FE and picking up the Note 8
The battery in the Note 8 seems to be lacking a bit, but im sure with the 835 it is power efficient.
This is all just my opinion, If i was given one I would use it, but for now Im enjoying my Note FE with the option to root, no AT&T bloatware, and super cheap accessories.... plus it a phone that no one else will have (I doubt I will run into any of you in public lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axzhygPO3bE
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I've got my Note FE on the way, but, despite my preferences for it vs the Note 8,part of me is a sucker for new hardware.
T-Mobile US has a $0 down lease w/option to buy (JOD), it's tempting, especially since I can "Jump" to another phone in as little as 30 days.
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One WTF I do wish Samsung would stop, once & for all:
The fragmentation of storage capacity & color choices.
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will be playing with wifey's (ATT corporate issue) Note8 after it arrives. i'll know afterwards how soon i will/will not go for the N8. hopefully someone will port the N8 firmware soon.
Unfortunately the Note 7 recall discount for the Note 8 is not availble outside the USA otherwise the Note 8 would be a compelling buy.
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Unfortunately the Note 7 recall discount for the Note 8 is not availble outside the USA otherwise the Note 8 would be a compelling buy.
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agree with this so its a no for me especially as I bought from CPW and they certainly won't discount given their profit warning today! The FE is a fine machine and I'll wait until prices drop and I've physically had a play.
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Unfortunately the Note 7 recall discount for the Note 8 is not availble outside the USA otherwise the Note 8 would be a compelling buy.
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It will be offered in Canada shortly...not sure where your located
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force70 said:
It will be offered in Canada shortly...not sure where your located
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Wow! Me and other Note fans are from the UK.
KOLIOSIS said:
I've got my Note FE on the way
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Mind if I ask what made you go back to the FE? I saw your original listing on Swappa (and am still kicking myself for not buying it when I saw it) and just noticed you re-bought one yesterday.
I've been on the fence about getting one for awhile now... I've been using an S8+ for about 2 weeks now and it's too flippin' tall for me to use one-handed (without the one-handed mode). And I hate that #[email protected]%# Bixby button (work phone so not customizing it for myself). It's just... hard for me to justify spending $700+ on this thing, even though it ticks all my boxes and I prefer its design over the N8.
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Mind if I ask what made you go back to the FE? I saw your original listing on Swappa (and am still kicking myself for not buying it when I saw it) and just noticed you re-bought one yesterday.
I've been on the fence about getting one for awhile now... I've been using an S8+ for about 2 weeks now and it's too flippin' tall for me to use one-handed (without the one-handed mode). And I hate that #[email protected]%# Bixby button (work phone so not customizing it for myself). It's just... hard for me to justify spending $700+ on this thing, even though it ticks all my boxes and I prefer its design over the N8.
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I sold the 1st one,anticipating a DualSIM version coming out & thought it'd be a good time to sell it,while there's still interest.
Took that $$$ & bought an Asus ZenFone AR on eBay,sent it right back after discovering this particular model only had Band 2 support (Amazon's has better North American support,but a 2-4 week wait,too impatient).
Thennnn,turned right back to the Note FE,everything else after the original Note 7 paled in comparison.
One of the major draws for me to the Note 7/FE is the overall dimensions & feel-in-hand.
The performance & battery life are right up there.
Not a heavy S-Pen user,but,same as with the now MIA I-R Blaster,it's nice to have when you want/need it.
The Note 8 is likely not much more than a curiosity,but,who knows,it may grow on me. (Just as you,I I didn't care much for the S8+,ditched mine after about six weeks)
If it ends up sitting unused for days at a time,I'll JOD that much sooner to the V30.....
Pricing on the FE in the future,that's a tough call,but,current pricing seems to indicate that if you wait just a bit,the Gold version could soon dip below $700.
The Onyx Black FE is fetching top dollar,if that's what you want,I'd keep watching Swappa..............
KOLIOSIS said:
I sold the 1st one,anticipating a DualSIM version coming out & thought it'd be a good time to sell it,while there's still interest.
Took that $$$ & bought an Asus ZenFone AR on eBay,sent it right back after discovering this particular model only had Band 2 support (Amazon's has better North American support,but a 2-4 week wait,too impatient).
Thennnn,turned right back to the Note FE,everything else after the original Note 7 paled in comparison.
One of the major draws for me to the Note 7/FE is the overall dimensions & feel-in-hand.
The performance & battery life are right up there.
Not a heavy S-Pen user,but,same as with the now MIA I-R Blaster,it's nice to have when you want/need it.
The Note 8 is likely not much more than a curiosity,but,who knows,it may grow on me. (Just as you,I I didn't care much for the S8+,ditched mine after about six weeks)
If it ends up sitting unused for days at a time,I'll JOD that much sooner to the V30.....
Pricing on the FE in the future,that's a tough call,but,current pricing seems to indicate that if you wait just a bit,the Gold version could soon dip below $700.
The Onyx Black FE is fetching top dollar,if that's what you want,I'd keep watching Swappa..............
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Sweet, thanks for the reply.
I always buy my phones outright (I'm prepaid) and usually use a phone until it dies, hence struggling with the decision. I just want my physical buttons and front-facing fingerprint reader...
Only thing really keeping the N8 in consideration right now for me is the dual camera... been trying to figure out what differences there are between the main N8 camera and the S7/N7 camera (since they're using the same sensor). The secondary lens just doesn't seem that useful to me.
And yeah, I'm after the black one, which seems to be the only one going up in price on ebay. There are a lot fewer listings now than a month ago, not sure if that means no more stock for the distributors/resellers to buy and then flip.
chubbyfatazn said:
Sweet, thanks for the reply.
I always buy my phones outright (I'm prepaid) and usually use a phone until it dies, hence struggling with the decision. I just want my physical buttons and front-facing fingerprint reader...
Only thing really keeping the N8 in consideration right now for me is the dual camera... been trying to figure out what differences there are between the main N8 camera and the S7/N7 camera (since they're using the same sensor). The secondary lens just doesn't seem that useful to me.
And yeah, I'm after the black one, which seems to be the only one going up in price on ebay. There are a lot fewer listings now than a month ago, not sure if that means no more stock for the distributors/resellers to buy and then flip.
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Keep an eye on Newegg as well:
Pricing is currently on the high end, but, another source nevertheless :
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...ung+Galaxy+Note+FE&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
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force70 said:
I will never get rid of my FE...never lol.
Im with you on the 8 though for once I wont pre-order etc etc...
Ive got a few issues with it:
Fingerprint reader still in a stupid spot...my nexus 6p had it in a perfect spot.
Dual camera assembly/bump appearance absolutely ruins the asthetics of the rear of the phone.
Not a huge fan of the screen aspect ratio
And sammy should be discounting the 8 for those of us that went through that train wreck of a recall.. i bought my FE full price bought my S8 plus full price...ive stayed loyal to sammy after all the BS last year. They owe former note 7 people a break.
The colour selection stinks black, dark blue or maple gold only? Wtf?
My s8 is maple gold and its okay but I wouldnt buy it again.
Wheres silver? Silver is what i want.
So yeah i may go another route this year. V30, pixel XL 2, mate 10, HTC U11 hell maybe even the iPhone 8 plus version lol..
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Does samsung pay work with your FE on Rogers?
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Does samsung pay work with your FE on Rogers?
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I dont know sorry i have never and will never use it.
But from reading about others who do use it no it wont work.
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Does samsung pay work with your FE on Rogers?
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Not on Rogers, but Samsung pay doesn't work unless you have a korean sim card (you might need a korean credit card if you want to use it)
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Samsung confirms Galaxy Note 2 release at August 29th event
Galaxy Note 2This coming August 29th, Samsung will be holding an event at IFA in Berlin, Germany, where the South Korean consumer electronics giant intends to rain on Apple’s parade. How do they plan to go about doing that? The answer is simple – there are rumors (which are going around pretty strong) that talk about how Apple might just debut their next generation iPhone sometime in the middle of September, so why not take away a little bit of its edge by announcing their sequel to the celebrated Galaxy Note smartphone (some say phablet) at IFA 2012?
a Samsung spokesman said on Friday, “We plan to unveil the next Galaxy Note at the Samsung Mobile Unpacked event in Berlin on August 29.” That is as much as Samsung or any of their spokespersons are willing to divulge, but since this has come from the horse’s mouth itself, we would take it to be gold. Personally, do you think a release of the Galaxy Note 2 before the iPhone would dampen Apple’s sales figures? I would say that the negative impact, if any, would be minimal as most people have already made up their minds which camp they are on beforehand. Otherwise, we would not have seen Spider-Man released before The Dark Knight Rises, as the latter has still outearned Peter Parker at the box office just two weeks and running, right?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/08/samsung-confirms-galaxy-note-2-release-at-august-29th-event/
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yeah I just saw this on engadget earlier. Should be interesting I guess. I'm sticking with my OG note for now.
I just hope for an official 4.1 build from samsung for my current note and I be happy. Might be a long wait though.
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Will get the Note 2 on Day ! :good:
It's just announcement not release date.
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That note the release. Thats just the date, when they are going to show it off.
I might hold off on buying the Note 2 (unless it comes to Sprint here in the USA for which I am sitting on an upgrade for my work line), but otherwise I am quite happy using my Note 1 on Straight Talk pre-paid.
Hopefully it preloaded with Jelly Bean.
And then the official announcement from samsung to update it also on original note
One positive thing about samsung is: they seem to have learned that it´s important to ship their products as near as possible to their announcement dates. Take a look at the SGSIII story: Anouncement was in May, shipment started in may as well.
JulyDerek said:
Samsung confirms Galaxy Note 2 release at August 29th event
Galaxy Note 2This coming August 29th, Samsung will be holding an event at IFA in Berlin, Germany, where the South Korean consumer electronics giant intends to rain on Apple’s parade. How do they plan to go about doing that? The answer is simple – there are rumors (which are going around pretty strong) that talk about how Apple might just debut their next generation iPhone sometime in the middle of September, so why not take away a little bit of its edge by announcing their sequel to the celebrated Galaxy Note smartphone (some say phablet) at IFA 2012?
a Samsung spokesman said on Friday, “We plan to unveil the next Galaxy Note at the Samsung Mobile Unpacked event in Berlin on August 29.” That is as much as Samsung or any of their spokespersons are willing to divulge, but since this has come from the horse’s mouth itself, we would take it to be gold. Personally, do you think a release of the Galaxy Note 2 before the iPhone would dampen Apple’s sales figures? I would say that the negative impact, if any, would be minimal as most people have already made up their minds which camp they are on beforehand. Otherwise, we would not have seen Spider-Man released before The Dark Knight Rises, as the latter has still outearned Peter Parker at the box office just two weeks and running, right?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/08/samsung-confirms-galaxy-note-2-release-at-august-29th-event/
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Galaxy Note - yes
But the tab (10.1)
Not the phone.
brooon said:
One positive thing about samsung is: they seem to have learned that it´s important to ship their products as near as possible to their announcement dates. Take a look at the SGSIII story: Anouncement was in May, shipment started in may as well.
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Well if they announce it in August and still manage to ship it in August than they are my heroes :laugh:
Only time will tell, lets just hope they will give the OG Note users a decent update to JB. From what I saw with the ICS update they just used the same TW and only changed the Android version, while GS III had a new TW and smoothness that we lacked. And I do not believe that its due to the specification difference, as if done properly our GNote would be as shutter free as the GS III.
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Galaxy Note - yes
But the tab (10.1)
Not the phone.
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Huh? Why do you think that? It already has been announced months ago, why should this be another announcement?!
Don´t think so. It will be the Note 2, I think.
--> "We plan to unveil the next Galaxy Note... "
How else could Samsung improve on the note 1 and make it worth a $700ish upgrade/purchase?
5.5 inch screen in a smaller body is nice but not irresistible.
Resolving the screen black clipping issue would be nice but there are some fixes/work-arounds already.
Maybe allow the note to self power external USB3.0 drives like the sgs3, also nice, but again not irresistible.
Some cool improvements i think would be realistic but never to be implemented, would be:
- Have a dual battery design, 1 very small under the lid, removable battery to allow for the larger battery to be hot swap-able (external port), thus, you'd never need to plug in ever, just swap and go. (Cant think of why they wouldn't do this).
- Same thing for the sim card design - either allow dual 3G sim and dual active standby ability, or design a hot swapable sim card port. (telecos/carriers would not like this feature at all)
- Waterproof sprayed inside out, equaling IP65 or something to allow peace of mine while boating/fishing (using the 3.5mm audio jack as the co2 spray hole to get rid of water inside after snorkeling ). (maybe costs to much? not reliable?)
- complete phone covered with thin film solar paneling, even on the front bezel. Im all for function over form. The surface area of the note is bigger than my 6v 250ma panel and turning on an app to force 2G mode, low brightness, etc. would allow some form of trickle charging to happen.
Com'on Samsung, take my free non patented ideas, before Apple patents them, only to sue others but never to to actually use/implement!
Unfortunately Note 2 won't worth it. It will have bigger, but smaller screen (5.5" 720p), same hardware as SGS3, probably with more RAM.
So I will keep my Note till Note 3.
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Unfortunately Note 2 won't worth it. It will have bigger, but smaller screen (5.5" 720p), same hardware as SGS3, probably with more RAM.
So I will keep my Note till Note 3.
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Faster handling, faster camera, faster pen input, better pics, faster actions and probably a better soundchip.
The Note 1 was the best research object, if such a device fits to my demands. Now I hope that they´ll make it perfect.
Hellyeah, I´ll buy it^^
Not sure I want to upgrade due to the current emmc bug debacle. I've owned android phones before and have never been so scared to flash roms and mods, due to this problem. Every single day I read new "bricked note" posts from users. I see no reason to reward Samsung with more of my money until they at least fix the emmc bug.
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I'm thinking of selling my Galaxy Note and wait for Galaxy Note 2 presentation, then If I won't like the new Galaxy Note 2 I'll buy the first one again (used, of course) paying it less than the one I sold. I just hope that It'll be better than GS2-GS3 switch.
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Unfortunately Note 2 won't worth it. It will have bigger, but smaller screen (5.5" 720p), same hardware as SGS3, probably with more RAM.
So I will keep my Note till Note 3.
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Actually more RAM would be a real plus for me. Do you have a source for that? Thanks!
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Well if they announce it in August and still manage to ship it in August than they are my heroes :laugh:.
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Shipping 2 days after announcement? Highly unlikely. But if they manage to announce in August and ship in September, then hello SGN3! Maybe... We'll see what it's packing!
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Galaxy Note - yes
But the tab (10.1)
Not the phone.
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Again an info on that point: a few minutes ago netbooknews.de posted that the Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 will become available from the 9th of august. click
So it will be the Note 2! :laugh::laugh:
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Actually more RAM would be a real plus for me. Do you have a source for that? Thanks!
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Same here.
Give me 2gb of ram and I will insta-upgrade even if the other specs are the same of the actual.
Give me 1gb of ram with a octocore Cortex A15, 512gb of free space and super amoled plus ultra hd and I will not upgrade.
I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
- Frank
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I want to go mad with power lol.
Octa Core!
The hardware technology is close to peaking, I think. Flexible screens are just a marketing gimmick for me, and better radios aren't really new tech but refinements of what we already have. Screens are either unbreakable but not unscratchable, or unscratchable but not unbreakable. As for power -- every week we read about how this or that development will give us vastly more powerful batteries (rechargeable in 30 seconds, no less) but the problem is, they've been saying that for the past six or seven years and we're still stuck with the same old Li-Ion technology. Wireless charging still means leaving the phone on some device or other to charge -- only you don't plug it in. Now if my phone's battery would start charging as soon as I walked in the door, I might sit up and take notice.
The only innovations that would give me an incentive to buy a new device (the Note 99, maybe?) on day 1 would be either 128GB or more of storage without a huge increase in price, or a change in Android specs to allow apps to be stored and run from external cards. Not allowing apps to run from external storage has got to be one of Google's more short-sighted ideas, given that each Android iteration, not to mention manufacturer and carrier overlays, seems to eat more and more of available storage space for its own use.
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Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy Note 2
Galaxy Note 8.0
in my country, note 2 now is about 30% cheaper compared to when it was launched. if thats the case in your area and since you are still satisfied with your note2, id wait for a few months until it gets cheaper before buying. as a bonus the official rom you buy might be more stable the the 1st release.
For me, personally, it would have to be a huge increase in onboard storage (I'm thinking 128GB minimum). Also, I would prefer a dedicated micro-HDMI port, instead of crappy MHL. These two things would make me get the GN3 on release day, but if not, I'll stick with my GN2 for the time being.
1080p, Exynos Octa w/LTE, more storage...yeah, I'm probably going to get it at launch. Those are enough to excite me.
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Frontal stereo speakers, Adreno 330, Snapdragon 800, metal body, 1080p 64 GB storage... these things are desirable, but still probably wouldn't buy it... and definately not on day one. Just recently got my Note 2
More likely when I switch, it will be to the Note 4... or perhaps some nice HTC/Sony. Maybe even a Nokia EOS, if such a thing ever breaks free from the rumorland....
I want a note 3 with all s4 features minus lag, screen tint and smearing issues (realistic wish list). It would be enough for a year at least. I would prefer a screen of 5.7 inch max, but it should never go beyond 6.0. The battery should be around 4000MAh. I don't care about body but design at least should not be carbon copy of note 2/s4. The minimum storage should be 32gig.
Larger screen without increasing the body size.
Larger battery, and I don't mind making the body slightly thicker either. For me battery life is more important than have it be under 11mm. I think 12mm is fine.
HD display, without a doubt.
SPen upgrade. I love the current generation, but if they can't make it any better then that'll be fine by me.
Next generation processor which I'm sure will be in there.
An awesome camera This one is good, but not that good. I'd much prefer something better.
I think that's it! If they add on a capacitive home button and an extra gig of ram I'm sold.
Thinner, lighter, better battery, full hd and 13mpix camera at least (or better if they can squeeze it). Battery life is fine with me. Processing power I don't care about anymore (it's plenty enough already).
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Do we need to uninstall the stock app to flash this
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Nice spam. Reported.
Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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I am afraid its going to be like this, better not to keep your hopes high, you should follow the prior trend if u want to stay realistic. I dont mind an s4 type phone but it must be morw fluid and minus all the bugs.
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I hope I I'm not that bothered about it. Only had note 2 a few weeks and love it! Want it to last till s5 or note 4!
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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?
Definitely a phone I will buy, sadly I dont have the money right now and selling somo old phones is not on my plans, so if the note 3 went out today I will have to buy it in October 2014.
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The minimum storage should be 32gig.
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Samsung will never set 32gb as minimum storage. They rather will cut it even more (like in galaxy s4).
Have to say I am impressed with my Note2 so far the best Android phone Ive had. Its the only phone I have not had to tamper with to make it faster. I did root it but no custom rom. Never had it die on me, been using it close to a year now and it still amazes me. Awesome device. The Note 3 would have to be significantly better to justify an upgrade. I agree with with what someone hasmentioned already, i believe we have reached a peak now....and only encremental changes will come. Else if they do decide to go all out with the Note 3...we will all be guinea pigs....like with the first samsung galaxy s.with the note 2 we have the perfect balance between battery life and performance. I still carry a spare battery around...just incase.
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It needs to have a new design. I won't buy it if it looks too much like my Note 2. Something like the GS4 Active would be awesome.
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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?
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Yes. Don't really care, to be honest.
Oh - I'm rooted, and happily running a custom rom.
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I'm tempted. I like my Note 3 but I like the size of the G2.
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I'm tempted. I like my Note 3 but I like the size of the G2.
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i came from the note 3.
i've owned all three note phones, and each one has gotten much better than the last one. the note 3 had battery life that made me stick with it, until i found the G2 w/ its huge battery. getting 4-5h of screen on time, which is slightly less than what i had on the note 3.
the size of the G2 really sold me. it's thing, edge to edge screen, and the camera quality is close enough that i don't miss anything. in fact, i still think the camera on the htc one is my favorite. i don't think you'll miss anything from the note 3, unless the s-pen is a deal breaker for you.
additionally, LG's software tweaks are intuitive and helpful, IMO. the note 3 just has too many bells and whistles, most of which are more time consuming for me to learn and use well. and this is coming from someone who really likes more features. i think samsung is just throwing in the kitchen sink in its software approach. the G2 adds value with its tweaks, samsungs proposition... i'm not so sure. and touchwiz is starting to look VERY dated.
I did. I was looking to upgrade from my Note 2 but the G2 was released a few days before it. Had the G2 until the Note 3 ws released and kept it until about 2 weeks ago. I then traded that Note 3 for a Moto X and some cash. A few days ago, I traded the Moto X for the G2.
I will say that for starters, I liked the Moto X a lot more than I thought I would. As of right now, it's probably one of the best Android phones I've used and definitely in my top 3 (Droid 1, Note 2, Moto X). It's underspec'd compared to everything else I've used but I just love the user experience of it all. I'm actually still debating on dumping the G2 for another Moto X.
Anyway, as far as the Note 3 It's a nice phone and one of the best Samsung has made. My problem with the Note 3 was that
A) Touchwiz has way too much crap going on now. I used a near stock ROM on my Note 2 so it's odd for me to say this but I actually got sick of TW on the Note 3. They really need to update and streamline this IMO. The S-Pen works a lot better than the Note 2 so if you like such features, you can't beat this phone. The G2 has some really annoying UI features too but it's a slight step down to how the Note was. Very slight.
B) The more I used the Note 3, the more I hated to hold it. I thought the Note 2 was really nice to hold. Yeah it was big but I really didn't have any problems with it. The Note 3 is more squared off and just felt bleh after a while. The G2 is a lot better to hold and surprisingly the battery life is better than the Note 3, depending on which review you read of course.
I don't miss the Note 3 at all and I think I'm officially done with Samsung phones too. I'm getting to the point to where I just want to use my phone without having to ROM and take off bloat but at the same time I want a little bit more. I think this is why I liked the Moto X so much. It's not as vanilla as a Nexus but it has just enough tweaks to make it unique. The G2 is pretty much the same way I would say.
I had a Note 3 for two weeks before returning it, mainly due to Knox stuffs and I agree with just about everything phobic99 said above. With that said, I'm on Sprint Sero, meaning I can only upgrade directly through Sprint, and the Note 3 was $372.74 after taxes, while I managed to pick the G2 for FREE Monday.
As a previous Note 2 owner, I feel the G2 is better than the Note 3 (G2 feels much snappier imo), but considering the G2 was free, it was a no brainer.
I definitely use to be a Samsung whore lol, and I don't miss a single thing about about the Note 3. I also didn't think I'd enjoy on-screen buttons, but after two days of using the G2, pushing the home button my Note 2 feels horrible in comparison.
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I have both, best of both worlds.
If the G2 had ext sd support and no on screen buttons it would be pretty much perfect.
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Note 3 to nexus 5 to g2
It just made sense
I had the note 3, liked it a lot, but had software issues, crashed often,so replaced, my daughter also has the same problem with hers, i have found the signal, battery and software better than the note 3.we have the note 2, s4 and note 3 at home and i prefer the G2.
I got the note 3 on Sprint on day one release, took it back six days later and waited for the g2.
The size issue I have with the Note3 is that it was to large for a phone and to small for a tablet. I wanted it bigger.
And then their is the over-saturated colours even on the "Pro" setting. Touchwiz (FUGLY)
The only thing I wish I would have waited on is the LG Flex. It's like a bigger G2.
For me the G2 is damn near perfect.
I am in a big dillema, should i go with the Note 3 or the G2. It seems that the G2 somwhow outdo the Note 3 and offers some pretty useful features. One of them is the On-Screen, where you can control your phone from your computer directly..... looks and sound awesome. Cant wait to try it out ))
Can't you always I that through avd
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had note3 for 10days... sold n bought g2...
g2 has better development support, no Knox issues etc.
never regret the decision :good:
force70 said:
I have both, best of both worlds.
If the G2 had ext sd support and no on screen buttons it would be pretty much perfect.
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So, what you think that to go with the G2 is the better option ? I am only tempted for the note because of the S-pen, I am a student and probably this will be an useful addition to me. Although, the G2 offers a very quick way to open the memo and start typing even with fingers...... What do you guys think ?
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So, what you think that to go with the G2 is the better option ? I am only tempted for the note because of the S-pen, I am a student and probably this will be an useful addition to me. Although, the G2 offers a very quick way to open the memo and start typing even with fingers...... What do you guys think ?
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Honestly, I'd say the best way to decide is to try them both for a few days. I know this isn't an option for a lot of people but most stores have at least a small return policy. The S-pen is really really handy so if you think you'd find that useful, then the Note 3 is the obvious choice here. For everything else, I'd go with the G2 personally.
Don't forget the option to use foldable bluetooth keyboard & bluetooth mouse to type.....This feature alone has helped me many times
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Don't forget the option to use foldable bluetooth keyboard & bluetooth mouse to type.....This feature alone has helped me many times
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How this helped you buddy ? You've been using it throughout your classes to write or what ?
Missing the Note III tbh
Can someone tell me, if he is using the note taking features on the G2 and how is it ? From one side, I want a note 3 because i know that the updated TW which is expected to be soon, will be something very very impressive without any doubt and tbh i am little afraid that LG is a smaller company and wont be on the level on which Sammy is.... So if we look for a future safety dont you think that the note 3 is the best pick ?
LOL i should have just responded to this thread instead of starting a new one, but here goes.
I was a Note 3 preorder guy. I had the phone for 3 weeks....
AND. I sold it to pick up the new white Verizon G2.
The Note 3 was a HUGE disappointment!
The device feels terrible in the hand, with its sharp edges.
Using it outside when the wind blows it wants to fly out of your hands like a sail,
One handed operation, when your sitting down on the crapper is impossible, you cant make that thumb stretch without dropping it.
Touchwiz is really annoying with all kinds of crap constantly popping up in your face. my magazine, searches, bla bla bla.
The Note 3 is overly bloated and feels slow.
The Spen, its cool for about a week, then the Novelty wears off. and you never use it again. (the Spen DOES make 100% sense on the 10.1 2014 tablet which we have however, just need to ditch the TW.)
The external speaker AND the phone speaker are TERRIBLE on the Note 3. No good volume or clarity, a tinny sound and phone call volume never high enough if you cant hear the other party. Even with all the mods out bump the volume it makes it sound worse.
The USB 3 connecter is huge and ugly and I never noticed any difference.
Samsungs continued KNOX and other locking shenanigans. this should be the #1 reason to stay away.. lol
DEVELOPMENT! Development on the Note 3 due to Samsungs Garbage software is a complete hilarious JOKE.
The VZW section for instance has 3 lousy threads! No LOKI. etc. so no kernels. and the Devs who were working on those 3 threads were just doing it for the Bounty money or as a favor.
I could go on and on with my experience about the Note 3. It was a huge letdown.
After I got the Note 3, I started to see the G2 development community really start heating up, and caught my eye.
I come from an Old Galaxy Nexus, and used PGM/touch control for a knock on type wake and I loved it, once I saw "knock on"
on the G2 as a native feature it really piqued my interest.
I got my white vzw G2 on wednesday and I adore it, everything makes sense!
LG did a wonderful job with the stock rom. (there are a few small tweaks I would like such as better looking folders) but for the most part its
amazing.
The LG optimus UI has most of the features you see on custom roms.
it "feels" extremely light, not bloated or resource killing whatsoever.
**PERFORMANCE!
My G2 boots in 23seconds according to start up manager.
The device overall just feels so much more powerful and snappy.
Disk/File IO KILLS the Note 3, pulling up huge app lists, or in app manager, etc.. is instant.
The Note 3 stuttered and got stupid and would FC its own garbage apps, freeze up, etc.. Where the G2 is soo rock solid.
While, Granted the G2 has the shiny back it feels like a much more "premium" device, than the tacky East Asian style of the fake stitched back cover on the Note 3. The Note 3 fake leather back reminds me of those cheap fixtures in Chinese buffets that try to look "expensive"
Display: G2 hands down. I brought my Note 3 into the verizon store, and put both devices side by side both at 100% brightness in an extremely bright room. G2 colors look better, is clearer and more vibrant without the oversaturation. I swear the lcd panel draws faster than amoled, but idk..
Audio! - The phone speaker sounds great, first call I made I was like WOW! it can get extremely LOUD, but not in a screetchy ear bleeding way, in a full clear juicy big kind of way. External speaker sounds full and crystal clear, while the Note 3 speaker sounds very very tinny..
Audio over Bluetooth sounds much better in the car than the Note 3, again much more clearer and open.
Sorry: I prefer onscreen buttons. arrange the buttons in any configuration that tickles my fancy, I can also shrink down that Nav bar with g2 xposed to 60% from its original size while losing 0 of the functionality. With the Note 3 I was constantly bumping the capacitive buttons. and
the Home button is so heavy you have to slam your thumb on that button like a goon, its silly.
Development: Development on the G2 is smokin'! At this point Why buy a Nexus 5?
The G2 has got to be the easiest phone to root and install recovery on, you get more diverse variety of roms, utilizing LG UI and or hybrids of or straight up AOSP. but all on BETTER hardware and can be had for around the same price.
I can go on and on, But I'm loving the G2, and even the stock rom with tweaks.
The LG G2 This Is The Best Android Handset You Can Buy Right Now.
I know that many of my points could be argued otherwise, but as the dude says.
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Well, I went and got one. Looks empty. It! It's one handed!!! Mad to think that a small phone is 'only ' 5.2 inches!!!
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I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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Note series can't be compared with S series.
But so far to my observation, Note series is always have much improvement from the S-series. You can see since S2 vs. Note 1, S3 vs. Note 2, and the latest one S4 vs Note 3.
Note 1 is the improvement of S2 (design, software, hardware), same with Note 2 and Note 3.
Whichever features you see on the S series, Note series most probably will have also.
The latest one Note 3, it gets all the S4 features, plus additional Air command, because we have the S-pen.
So if you want to compare, don't compare Note 3 with S5. compare it with next release Note 4.
Cheers.
@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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o yeah. agree. The stylus S-pen make it more sexy and useful compare to S-series
hahihauhehehahehehoha.
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@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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agree. The speed is much higher on Note series compare to S series. :good:
and to be frank, everything is much better than S-series (at least from what I feel).
The Note 3 is still ahead in terms of hardware compared to the S5. All the S5 has is that it's waterproof (There are cases for that, or Liquipel will add a waterproof coating if you're in the US), and a heart rate scanner (There are apps for the Note 3 that are accurate and use the camera flash.)
In return, the Note 3 has
3GB RAM(S5=2GB),
An Spen,
5.7" screen (S5=5.1"),
3200Mah battery (S5=2800),
32 and 64GB ROM (S5=16&32, and we all know the 32GB is going to be impossible to buy. As usual.)
In my personal opinion (as a designer) it looks better,
Better optimized for productive usage (Action menu, popup windows, multiscreen.)
And it costs less.
If the S5 had been what it had been rumoured to be, it would be worth considering an S5. As it turns out, no such thing.
The S5 is a dressed down Note 3. Don't waste your money on it.
If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.
S5 is just so ugly and it looks like a plaster.
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If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.
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Yes, the Note 3 has an available official wireless charging back cover and kit. Even the S4 has it.
The additional megapixels and the ISOCELL technology is going to do sod all on a 1/2.6'' sensor... Bandages on an open wound.
The 801 might be a tiny improvement (of the 'Apple-policy' variety) , but it's going to be bottlenecked by the 2GB RAM.
As for the Spen, many of us do use it every day.
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
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I just checked, no bloke bits here.
I do not call 0.2Ghz an improvement. It's the same thing Apple has been doing with their iPhones, adding 0.1 or 0.2 ghz and saying it loads faster.
Benchmarks are rarely accurate in real-life useage. (theyre fun, but not useful) In real-life usage, with several apps open at once, it will not be the case as you run out of RAM fast.
The Note 3 has 2.71GB of useable RAM, with facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk, firefox and a mediaplayer open, even with Apex instead of TW, and all bloatware gone, it's using exactly 2GB.
What do you think will happen if you try that on an S5 with 2GB RAM(usable around 1.7GB, most likely) ? Any gamer, Dev, ITer and techie can tell you loads of Ghz are going to do sod all if you're out of RAM.
And it's certainty not worth 2-300 quid extra!
I did not 'fail to notice' the sensor size. The difference is simply negligible if you know your photography. It's my profession, I know my photography hardware inside out.
Sounds more to me like you've long since made up your mind. No offence, but claiming two negligible babysteps as 'improvements' is more something I would expect from an apple user.
Talking pure money vs value, which is what I was doing, the S5 is simply more money for something you can get for less.
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As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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I just checked, no bloke bits here.
I do not call 0.2Ghz an improvement. It's the same thing Apple has been doing with their iPhones, adding 0.1 or 0.2 ghz and saying it loads faster.
Benchmarks are rarely accurate in real-life useage. (theyre fun, but not useful) In real-life usage, with several apps open at once, it will not be the case as you run out of RAM fast.
The Note 3 has 2.71GB of useable RAM, with facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk, firefox and a mediaplayer open, even with Apex instead of TW, and all bloatware gone, it's using exactly 2GB.
What do you think will happen if you try that on an S5 with 2GB RAM(usable around 1.7GB, most likely) ? Any gamer, Dev, ITer and techie can tell you loads of Ghz are going to do sod all if you're out of RAM.
And it's certainty not worth 2-300 quid extra!
I did not 'fail to notice' the sensor size. The difference is simply negligible if you know your photography. It's my profession, I know my photography hardware inside out.
Sounds more to me like you've long since made up your mind. No offence, but claiming two negligible babysteps as 'improvements' is more something I would expect from an apple user.
Talking pure money vs value, which is what I was doing, the S5 is simply more money for something you can get for less.
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Well said mate.
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Well said mate.
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I agree.
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LancelotSA said:
As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.
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Who cares if it loads websites faster? You can see more of the website on the Note 3 screen. The advantage is neutered.
I'm no fan boy either. I've owned a dozen smart phones in the last four years, including s3, note 2, s4, all the nexus phones starting with the nexus one, three HTC phones and a couple of Xperias.
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
What the OP said is correct - you don't even really need a tablet if you have one of these. I still have one but I may sell it as I only use it once a week if I'm lucky. Samsung envisioned this device as a bridge between tablets and phones and in my opinion they have very much succeeded. If you think the note 3 is a hassle to carry around, it's not. Try carrying around a tablet if you want to experience hassle.
I use the pen just about every day. I jot down notes at work and it saves me carrying around a note pad.
The camera on the s5 is still just a phone camera. It may be better than the Note 3 but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between photos taken with each device just by looking at them.
Slightly better processor true but less ram and less Internal storage, at least for most people who won't be lucky or smart enough to get a 32Gb model. The note 3 is already so overpowered that it will be good for at least the next two years. Just like the camera no one will be able to tell the difference in normal use.
So the only distinction worth weighing up is this: do you want waterproof and more pocketable or do you want a borderline tablet experience with an active stylus?
I'll take the latter myself as it fits my pockets and I've not thrown it into a pond yet.
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That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
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You have no idea of my expertise. I was not the one childish enough to attempt to "win" a discussion by whipping out my credentials.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
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Actually not at all. I am in the Note 3 section of this forum, I'd expect nothing less than rabid fanboyism. One hundred lemmings marching into the sea does not prove much...
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
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You better have a word with the designers of the Tapatalk app then as sadly your signature does not appear when I browse the site on there. I would've assumed you knew that a world existed outside of PC web browser access to this forum.
My point is that, based on vast personal experience on the subject, owner's of a certain cellphone always feel the need to convince others that they have the absolute ultimate best cellphone. This does not apply to their previous cellphones (so your ownership history means little) as the newest device trumps all in their opinion.
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
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Let's recap shall we. I mentioned a superior camera on the S5. You wisely pointed out that pixels alone mean little and asserted that the S5 camera was not superior. I concurred regarding pixels alone and pointed out that it not only has more pixels but a larger sensor too. You then suddenly claimed the sensor size difference was negligible. I am still intrigued to hear you explain why you feel any increase in sensor size can be regarded as negligible. As an expert on photography surely you concede that sensor size is possibly one of the more important aspects of better image creation. But I will happily allow you to explain why you feel this is not the case....
You may also care to give a definitive answer on what percentage sensor size increase we are dealing with as I have an idea it is not linear.
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?
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I already conceded the Note 3 wins the bigger screen battle and have not argued this. You, however, still feel the need to argue that the S5 camera has no advantages over the Note 3.
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dr.m0x said:
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
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You cannot state an opinion as fact. For many anything bigger than 4.5" is too big. Perfect for you is not perfect for the whole world.
By the way, I love the bigger screen too. My current choice needs to be based on more than just screen size alone though which is why I am happy to discuss the advantages of each device. I am not of the school of thought that the Note 3 wins in all regards, however, otherwise I'd obviously not be having to choose. I'd have a Note 3 already. My contract upgrade was due from 1 March.
Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Pointless engaging you then isn't it...
When push comes to shove it seems most Note 3 owners have a huge problem with the perceived superiority of their beloved devices being questioned. Maybe this is reason enough for me not to own one. But then again I suppose you'll have "retard" S5 owners who will end up doing the same....
Trolling? If anything I am the only one engaging in this thread in the manner in which the thread title seemingly requested. For the rest it seems like a Note 3 fap fest whereas I am actually trying to discuss which is better and in what respects. Although I suppose I should've realised what was coming when the thread title asked the question but the first post went on to express idol worship for the Note 3.
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Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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I agree on the part that the size of Note series is just nice as a bridge between phone and tablet.
I used S1 & S2. Then change to Note 1, I love it. When S3 came out, I still bought the S3, coz sometimes I feel that small phone better. But I use it for 1 week, then I let it go. Not because I have money to throw, but, I find it no use to compare with Note 1 which I still own at that time. And then again I change my Note 1 to Note 2. At the same time I bought Note 10.1, coz I thought it would be better to have a bigger screen for work purpose. End up, I always used my Note 2 everyday at work, and my tablet I use it when it is lucky to be used (end up I always need to charge it every 3 days, and leave it dry up again for another 3 days), and most of the time, this tablet will stay sleep inside my bag. With a 1 week only 1 time usage, I decided to sell my Note 10.1 when the Note 3 come out.
And to be frank, this Note series the size is just nice. Not as big as tablet 7" to put inside the pants pocket. And frankly, I can't stand see the smaller size screen again. Nicer to view internet browser on a bigger screen, even if the size of the page is too big for 1 page, you don't need to zoom out until the wording is very small.
Whether this one opinion or facts, I only see all my friends, who has upgraded their S-series, Iphone series into Note 2, now all of them said "those phone are too small", which earlier before they use the Note series, all of them said "you are crazy to ask me to carry such big phone!"
and now all of them are planning to buy Note 3 when they can recontract in this year, without thinking of other phones.
But again, no offense, but someone is asking a comparison of Note 3 vs S5 on the Note 3 forums. I bet that person roughly should know what the answer is
Same thing if someone is asking comparison of Note 3 vs S5 (if this phone has been launched in every countries), I also bet that person roughly know what the answer will be.
Unless.... the phone is really s*cks to the end till no one love it.
Not being funny, but I think the S6 is a better looking phone than the S7. There are a few things going for the S7, expandable storage, waterproof, bigger battery. But I get on just fine with my 64gb S6 and think I will wait for the S8.
Waiting for the S8 as well. Hopefully samsung brings back the IR blaster.
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What did you expect? An iphone? Lol
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I will go for s7 and sell my s6........and sher with you the experience.....good luck
Interesting as I'm the other way:
I have an S6 Edge (having swapped a S6 wanting it to be less wide). I'm interested in the S7 (not edge) because it is 2.74mm wide as opposed to 2.76 on the edge and 2.78 on the S6. I use Tmobile USA so their preorder promo of Netflix and VR makes the cost of upgrading attractive.
I wish the phone had a even higher screen to body ratio (73% is my target, the LG G2 is my ideal). I also wish it was more boxy a la Note 5. I also wish they would put a soft-touch plastic back on it (a la Nexus 5).
Beyond the looks, I don't see a a major reason to upgrade. No game/app/photo/competitor phone makes my S6E seem insufficient. My Gear VR experience has me thinking of future things to add, but none of those things were added to the S7 other than better cooling
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Not being funny, but I think the S6 is a better looking phone than the S7. There are a few things going for the S7, expandable storage, waterproof, bigger battery. But I get on just fine with my 64gb S6 and think I will wait for the S8.
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I like how they removed the chrome trim around the home button. Very stealthy on the black model. I also like the increase in RAM to 4GB. I'm going to wait for the S8.
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Was there an announcement of a Samsung equivalent to Apple's 3D touch? I guess the rumors were untrue.
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Not being funny, but I think the S6 is a better looking phone than the S7. There are a few things going for the S7, expandable storage, waterproof, bigger battery. But I get on just fine with my 64gb S6 and think I will wait for the S8.
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I think you missed the most important part of the S7 that EVERYONE here in NA should be excited about: North American version uses SNAPDRAGON 820. AOSP is back!
the major reason why the s7 is better than the s6 is that there is 4gb ram on it. it makes a difference folks. I had an edge and now an edge plus and the edge plus doesn't slow down at all. the only difference? extra gig of ram. the s7 is gonna be raved in reviews and will be revived as the best galaxy ever.
the S7 is better in every category, but still it's not worth upgrading from the S6, if you had S5 then yes for sure, or even NOTE 4......but the S6 is just fine....if i would upgrade then it will be because of the battery and new camera tech....
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I think you missed the most important part of the S7 that EVERYONE here in NA should be excited about: North American version uses SNAPDRAGON 820. AOSP is back!
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After having the S6 I kinda see this as a neutral aspect... I like the Exynos a lot !
Lets see how the new Exynos goes with the S820 and we'll see. For someone who is not a flashaholic, I would really recommend the S6 or any other Exynos based device without thinking twice, my phone runs perfectly.
My old Z2 with a Snapdragon 801 had a lot more issues than the S6, not to mention the speed difference!
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After having the S6 I kinda see this as a neutral aspect... I like the Exynos a lot !
Lets see how the new Exynos goes with the S820 and we'll see. For someone who is not a flashaholic, I would really recommend the S6 or any other Exynos based device without thinking twice, my phone runs perfectly.
My old Z2 with a Snapdragon 801 had a lot more issues than the S6, not to mention the speed difference!
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Agreed. But actually they both look good benchmark wise, almost equal. Still prefer the EXYNOS, although this time I won't mind either, as I made an effort to get exynos in the past only even if it meant importing.
http://www.mobipicker.com/galaxy-s7-exynos-8890-vs-galaxy-s7-snapdragon-820-performance-comparison/
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Waiting for the S8 as well. Hopefully samsung brings back the IR blaster.
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They got rid of the IR blaster for the S7? I had no idea. That's a deal breaker for me.
Wow...no IR blaster?! Who is the Dr. Evil at Samsung that decided to do this after adding water resistance and expandable storage??
No IR blaster is a deal breaker for me as well...going to stay with my S6 edge, like the size of it anyways!
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Wow...no IR blaster?! Who is the Dr. Evil at Samsung that decided to do this after adding water resistance and expandable storage??
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Not upgrading either because of this, I use the IR blaster every day, it's so much better than trying to find the remote and it even controls air conditioning, if there is no ir blaster on the s8 I might even put off upgrading even longer maybe wait till note7. Oh and I really wished they make the back plastic and removable again too, glass just sucks (plastic>>aluminium>>glass)
Now that Samsung Galaxy S7 is here, how does it effects the scope of your Galaxy S6?
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Well, Samsung did pull an Apple here. The launch of S7 felt like a bloated launch of iPhone 6s series. While not much changed on the outer shell of the phone, a lot of cool stuff got introduced inside the phone.
Waterproofing - IP68
SD Card is back
Insanely improved Camera with Dual Pixel auto focus and f1.7 lens
New display with Always on tech
A beastly processor upgrade - CPU/GPU brings significant gains over 7420
3000mAh of love.
IMHO, I feel that S6 was more of a pilot version on which S7 is banking with several upgrades above it.
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So, are you planning to upgrade to S7 or any worthy competitor like LG G5 or maybe even Xiaomi Mi5 (awesome VFM)? Also, given the poor tracks record of Samsung with software updates, do you think we will receive all software goodness and maybe an Always-on implementation (AMOLED, should be possible)?
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Created a thread, got locked. Didn't know about this one. So, let's continue discussion here:
Well, Samsung did pull an Apple here. The launch of S7 felt like a bloated launch of iPhone 6s series. While not much changed on the outer shell of the phone, a lot of cool stuff got introduced inside the phone.
Waterproofing - IP68
SD Card is back
Insanely improved Camera with Dual Pixel auto focus and f1.7 lens
New display with Always on tech
A beastly processor upgrade - CPU/GPU brings significant gains over 7420
3000mAh of love.
So, are you planning to upgrade to S7 or any worthy competitor like LG G5 or maybe even Xiaomi Mi5 (awesome VFM)? Also, given the poor tracks record of Samsung with software updates, do you think we will receive all software goodness and maybe an Always-on implementation (AMOLED, should be possible)?
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Samsung always makes their previous phones buggy and leave them at a terrible state after they release a new phone. this happened to my Note 3. they released a really broken android 5.0 update and they didn't even update it to 5.1 after they released Note 4.
Now same thing is happening to Note 4 after the release of Note 5. and then again, same thing will happen to S6. They do update S6 but will leave some bugs, forcing people to pay for their "next big thing". altought 6.0 was a good update for S6 but I'm sure future updates will break some stuff.
I don't consider their new processor a new success. We do not need 8 core cpu on a phone. These lazy samsung devs put more powerful hardware on their phone because their software is not optimized enough. they should optimize their software for speed improvement instead of putting 8 core or 4gb of ram.
My PC had 4gb ram and I played lots of great games with it. now a 3gb ram is not enough for these samsung phones. why? because their software is a total mess.
I liked Snapdragon's move for going back to 4 cores. again 8 core is useless.
I'm done with this company. From now on, only Nexus.
I thought there was an IR blaster on the S7, that may just ruin the deal for me.. The one the S6 is super powerful lol. I love having an IR blaster! The ones on Samsung devices are always the best ones, then the HTC ones. LG has them but they're almost useless.
By the way, this person advertised that he's creating a product and wants people to back him up. It's an IR blaster that attaches itself to phones, seems really cool: http://www.eyekickstarter.com/
You can sell your used S6 for about 300-350€ and buy s7 for 720€. so paying ~400€ is fair, for such improvements? for 400€ you have some things better on paper but in real life... i dont think so not worth to upgrade i am staying with my s6 untill s8 i guess.
Or sell s6 and buy MI 5bpro ... 400$ (375e) for 128gb snapdragon 820 ...and snapdragon killed the new exynos. Dont be like iFools to stay loyal to the company who rapes you. 4 months for an update to theirs flagship ?? Really ...
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Or sell s6 and buy MI 5bpro ... 400$ (375e) for 128gb snapdragon 820 ...and snapdragon killed the new exynos. Dont be like iFools to stay loyal to the company who rapes you. 4 months for an update to theirs flagship ?? Really ...
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This.
Also, Snapdragon 820 looks like seriously well optimised to me.
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Samsung always makes their previous phones buggy and leave them at a terrible state after they release a new phone. this happened to my Note 3. they released a really broken android 5.0 update and they didn't even update it to 5.1 after they released Note 4.
Now same thing is happening to Note 4 after the release of Note 5. and then again, same thing will happen to S6. They do update S6 but will leave some bugs, forcing people to pay for their "next big thing". altought 6.0 was a good update for S6 but I'm sure future updates will break some stuff.
I don't consider their new processor a new success. We do not need 8 core cpu on a phone. These lazy samsung devs put more powerful hardware on their phone because their software is not optimized enough. they should optimize their software for speed improvement instead of putting 8 core or 4gb of ram.
My PC had 4gb ram and I played lots of great games with it. now a 3gb ram is not enough for these samsung phones. why? because their software is a total mess.
I liked Snapdragon's move for going back to 4 cores. again 8 core is useless.
I'm done with this company. From now on, only Nexus.
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Haha. Amen. I always plan to buy a Nexus but somehow it is always ruined for me.
Nexus 5 = Poor camera and pitiful battery life.
Nexus 6 = Huge and expensive with a really poor Amoled.
Nexus 5x = Performs poorer than Nexus 5 due to its hardware encryption.
Nexus 6P = Snapdragon 810, need i say more.