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Go in to camera, then click mode (bottom left) then at the top left of the menu, click Apps
Now go to bottom and download V1 Sports
Link :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.v1.v1sports&hl=en_GB
In the description it says "Now with Sony Action Cam WiFi Support – Transmit 120 fps HD from your Sony Action Cam to the V1
Sports App."
Does this mean we can capture 120FPS?!
Sony "Action Cam". Not Sony Xperia.
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I thought that was another name for the camera app ...
May as well delete this then mods
Currently the only Qalcomm S800 equipped phone supporting [email protected] is the LG G2. I have it (as well as the Z1) and its bloody good! The S800 however, is not able to process 120fps AFAIK, so forget it..
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Currently the only Qalcomm S800 equipped phone supporting [email protected] is the LG G2. I have it (as well as the Z1) and its bloody good! The S800 however, is not able to process 120fps AFAIK, so forget it..
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Umm, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but, Note 3?
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Umm, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but, Note 3?
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Ugh... Note 3? camera sucks big time on that phablet... is it a phone, is it a plane, no its a fkin big brick in your pants lol
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Currently the only Qalcomm S800 equipped phone supporting [email protected] is the LG G2. I have it (as well as the Z1) and its bloody good! The S800 however, is not able to process 120fps AFAIK, so forget it..
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there a LGcamera app that let you take 1080p 60fps vid with Z1. The app isnt made by LG btw.
Gitaroo said:
there a LGcamera app that let you take 1080p 60fps vid with Z1. The app isnt made by LG btw.
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link?
just found it in the appstore, tried it and yes it has the option. but it makes bugger all difference to the actual video. its def not filming in 60fps.
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Ugh... Note 3? camera sucks big time on that phablet... is it a phone, is it a plane, no its a fkin big brick in your pants lol
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I'm not asking for your opinion on the Note 3, I'm saying you are wrong because the Note 3 CAN record at 120fps (at 720P) and since it has the same processor as our Z1, the Z1 should also be capable of doing this. Although it seems like when you're proven wrong, you can't handle it and go in some weird "but the Note 3 sucks" mode, very childish.
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Ugh... Note 3? camera sucks big time on that phablet... is it a phone, is it a plane, no its a fkin big brick in your pants lol
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Note 3 camera beats both z1 and g2 in still shots and video outdoors and in bright conditions. But haters gonna hate.
MohJee said:
Note 3 camera beats both z1 and g2 in still shots and video outdoors and in bright conditions. But haters gonna hate.
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i gave up note 3 for z1... n trust me note 3 is f**** crap... low light is horrible... and also i hate samsung plastic fones...n in regards to india .. i did not liked the performace of exonys chipset
What do you think about that? Is that really important? My hands are very shaky tough, I have a z1 compact now, and I can't really get clear photos at night.
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What do you think about that? Is that really important? My hands are very shaky tough, I have a z1 compact now, and I can't really get clear photos at night.
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I have the original MI 5 and now I can't imagine life without OIS....
Night pictures are significantly better, video shooting, when held by hand is better, and overall photo blurriness is lower.
However the dual cameras have some advantages too, like on the huawei P9, but as seen on the redmi pro, xiaomi hasn't done much to make the second camera count...
The MI 5s is a better phone than the MI5 as hardware goes, but imho the dual camera setup is just a gimmick for now
Why would they omitt ois on the regular 5s? So the mi5 had it?
Mi5 regular has it yes
Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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Let's just say 99.9% :crying:
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Are you 100% sure, the normal 5s (not the 5s plus) lacks OIS?
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100% no OIS
It have electronic image stabilization like the google pixel: http://en.miui.com/thread-376042-1-1.html
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...but imho the dual camera setup is just a gimmick for now
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I wouldn't completely agree on this. The combination of colour and BW sensor produces better night time photos, as BW sensor is much more sensitive and when combined with colour info from the other sensor it can produce a better overall image in challenging lighting conditions. If they've implemented photo app as they should, results should actually be better.
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It have electronic image stabilization like the google pixel
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What's interesting is that Google Pixel with the same IMX378 (without OIS) competes with the iPhone 7, thanks to its software engine. I am thinking... it could be possible to import their engine to mi5S? It's something like camera app related or deeper?
If you want good 4k video it's a deal breaker. I have the Mi5S and made a comparison against a S6 Edge+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su6ldDSR47o
Your video is very impressive !! I had almost bought it and now I don't know what to do ! Maybe the Axon 7 ...
Thank you !!
Kant1 said:
Your video is very impressive !! I had almost bought it and now I don't know what to do ! Maybe the Axon 7 ...
Thank you !!
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Comparing it side to side one sees the difference, but looking at just MI5S it seems good just as well. I wouldn't worry too much. 5s uses Sony's sensor. A very good one.
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It depends if you make video in 4k or 2k. In 2k you have electrical image stabilizer (EIS) working, which is a help. In 4k you don't have it though. For photos it's also disabled.
As the Mi 5s (currently) runs on android 6 and the google Pixel on 7.1, there is no chance to port to image engine at the moment. Only time will tell if that changes in the future.
This is a deal breaker for me.
I really thought I found the perfect phone.
But seeing how shaky videos are, IDK what to do now...
In my country, the 5s is about 350e, it's new, not many are selling it yet.
But the 5 is about 260-280e and there are a few sellers.
I love the 1080p 120fps, but the lack of OIS on the 5s is killing me.
Should I get the regular Mi 5?
Should I just swallow the fact that the 5s doesn't have OIS?
I hear it's EIS but only for 1080p and only for video.
I've seen photos, I'm confident I won't mind in that area, but the 4k OIS, or lack of...
Do you guys think I'm making this too much of a problem when it's really not?
I was searching for the perfect phone that was also not too expensive. That doesn't charge for the name.
This is really making me sad... Almost had it.
Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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I do...
LG 4k OLED.
I paid big money for it. Would hate to see shaky video on such a nice TV.
Imagine sitting down with someone, watching videos from travelling or something, and seeing how shaky your phone camera is...
When I spend big money on electronics, I expect them to provide good quality.
However, I dislike spending money on brand name. That's why I don't want to spend x2 more on a phone by Samsung, or similar.
Xiaomi is 1 of those brands that doesn't really make you pay for the name.
My TV is different, since, when I bought it, it was 1 of a kind. Truly outstanding quality. OLED was exclusive to LG.
Also, my monitor is 4k.
That's why this is a deal breaker for me. The lack of OIS on Mi 5s.
And that's why I'm really torn apart, whether to get the Mi 5. It's older phone, but the CPU isn't that big of a difference. It's like 5% difference on energy savings.
However, the bigger pixel size, looks to be good and photos are better, even without OIS and even in low light, on the Mi 5s.
Still don't know what to do.
I anyway wouldn't film with my mobile, for that I have a camera which also has built in zoom function But I know what you mean.
The Mi 5 is also a good phone, also it's only a bit older than 7 months, which is still very new. You might want to check out the new Oneplus 3T or Meizu phones, maybe they have an OIS.
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Do you even have something that can play and display 4k videos? I don't, so I don't make any 4k videos in any case.
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I feel the same, I'm happy with 2K EIS.
Maybe a clever Dev will find a way to unlock EIS on 4K, it sounds very possible.
I feel many people are waiting for the grey version to become available again, once they have shipped we should see more development for this device.
BPSoft said:
What's interesting is that Google Pixel with the same IMX378 (without OIS) competes with the iPhone 7, thanks to its software engine. I am thinking... it could be possible to import their engine to mi5S? It's something like camera app related or deeper?
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That would be awesome. Google Pixel's estabilization is incredible.
Hello. It is possible ?
The S8 doesn't support 1000fps . Your thinking of the new Sony phone. Not possible on the S8 iam afraid
Not possible at all... Max is 240fps.
But google says it is possible... sorry for this thread.
Wow
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lyrs said:
But google says it is possible... sorry for this thread.
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Then ask google.
imx400 is the only 1000FPS capable sensor listed on Sony site, we have imx330.
soby is going to make its new sensor exclusive to it flagship at least for now
There was app to check hardware details... Camera senor etc can't remember the name though
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hello. It is possible ?
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I spoke to samsung regarding this feature twice on live chat at different times and one person said that the s8 is capable of recording 480fps and the other time i spoke they said that the s8 can record 960fps.
Heres that chat transcript
[John(Agent):22:27:58] For the Samsung S8, it can record videos at 960fps.
[John(Agent):22:35:49] By comparison, the iPhone 7 Plus can only record slow motion videos up to 240fps, while the recently released LG G6 is capable of recording up to 480fps. Samsung’s Galaxy S8 camera also surpasses Sony’s newly announced Xperia XZ Premium which can record videos at 960fps.
Although when i asked him how to record 960fps he was telling me the usual method by going on slow motion mode and just hit record. So i told him that this way i end up recording at 240fps. And then he said he'll email the relevant department and do some enquiries and then email me the results..its been almost 1week and i have no email
Don't ask Samsung customer services. They live off a script in front of them. They've probably never even touched a samsung phone in their lives.
You have the phone so if you can't find it then it doesn't exist.
Don't waste your time. The specs are easily to find in a 5 second search on Google.
The exynos chip is capable of 960fps, sd is not, im wondering if a camera mod with root is able to enable this
You were talking about 960 fps and I don't even know to take slow motion videos
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Just bought a Samsung S8. It seems that the S8 doesn't support 1000 fps slow motion recording. Total disappointment!
R04drunn3r79 said:
Just bought a Samsung S8. It seems that the S8 doesn't support 1000 fps slow motion recording. Total disappointment!
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Who said it ever did?
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Huawei P20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
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Having trouble with autofocus on the P20 pro in videos. It seems to effectively render the zoom unuseable. Am I doing something wrong? Do I Have a faulty handset?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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confirmed. that's scandalous!
max.barrett said:
confirmed. that's scandalous!
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On the one hand as terrible as it is, and don't get me wrong, it really is!
I'm glad that:
1) I've not gone mad
2) I'm not the only one
Clearly it's a software change that has caused the issue, so I hope they can resolve it. I think I'm going to look to find a means of sending this feedback.
Working in the software field myself, and prior to that QA and customer facing fields, I'm well aware that these things can happen. It's just such a shame that when the one thing the phone is touted for seems to be suffering massively
If anyone can post their thoughts, or even workarounds should they find them it'd be massively appreciated.
I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
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I have S8 and I would like to sell it and buy P20 Pro. Please can you tell me which one is better for video? I know that P20 Pro in 4K dont have stabilization, but I have DJi Osmo Mobile 2. I habe sometimes problem with S8, when you recording people it start to be so much smooth. But everything is very good. But now I nees better.
I need to know which one is better? Focus, detail, shadows and etc...
Thx a lot
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Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
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Sorry to say I can't help you on this one!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 4, so anything I would say probably isn't worth the time to read
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Thx a lot man i hope someone will help me soon
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What kind of trouble exactly? I'd be happy to test if you can give me a scenario.
One thing I have noticed on my end is that slow-mo at x8 and x32 seems to experience some form of "snow" effect on the video, it's not noise in the sense of grain or low video resolution, but actual white / blue pixels scattered throughout the video. In x4 mode this doesn't happen....and I'm pretty sure prior to the 107 upgrade this wasn't present.
Can anyone confirm?
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Probably not..
But maybe a bad batch?
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I was told do hardreset the phone by Huawei which didn't solve the probs with slow-mow (x8 and x32) entirely. There's some kind of little visible improvement but it's still disappointing, especially regarding the price & hype of the phone.
Now, Customer Support asked for my IMEI in order to forward the issue to R&D. (Hm, that firmware-bug depends to/on my IMEI? Prolly not. Just wondering.)
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Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
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Hmm ok that's interesting...i mean bad batch could be explained if you had the issues on the older firmware. But these issues only appeared when i was updated to the new firmware on my end.
I've not heard back from them yet, might chase again because again hardware defect I'd expect to manifest itself in other shooting modes not just a specific case x8 and x32
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Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
Does anyone know if Huawei plans on putting out an update that adds stabilization to 4k video? Kind of like what OnePlus did with the OP5?
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Have you tried a hardreset? Any improvement?
Regarding the bad batch possibility, slow-mo in x4 should be affected also, shouldn't it?
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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I've not had a chance to hard reset I'm afraid.
I honestly believe batch issues, i.e. hardware, would be affected in other camera modes and all slowmo speeds. The camera is fine for everything but two settings in slowmo video, that to me sounds more like a firmware bug than anything.
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The Slo-Mo is awful, like most phones - get over it.
Did P20 Pro have 240fps at 1080?
no it has last year flagship specs for video and limited stabilization options
Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
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Most worse smartphone on video section and the selfie shooter is a joke i regret exchanging it for the s9 plus, huge mistake !! Thnksfully tye battery life is awesome pictures also
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Hi bouyhy,
Why is very bad video? I know that 4K don't have stabilization. Is there any other bad thing?
I have S8 and im planning to sell it an buy P20 Pro. I just try P20 Pro in store, for a shot time and I like vide, video is much more sharpness then S8 what is better for me. But how I say I try It for very short time. Please can you tell me what was other bad things in video? For stabilization I have DJi Osmo Mobile, I think that will help me a lot.
I had the s8 for almost a year and sell for tge s9 plus and i guarantee you that the s8 is way way better than this p20 pro on video shooting, stabilization sharpness quality dynamic range everything, i own the p20 pro for about 4 weeks now and tried everything the video shooting is too bad, i prefer galaxy s6 or even s5 videos, but if huawe8 cares about his customers they xill push updraes o fux that with selfie shooter too, but for now they did nothing. Personally if you care about videos keep your s8 or go for the pixel 2 or wait for htc u12
S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?
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S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?
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Can't agree more! This phone camera is useless!!! Literally! Even with the 64 MPx the photos are not up to the level they have to be. I had Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - both phones are hundreds of times better than this one. Can't believe that i spend money to buy it. Even that I watched a lot of reviews before buying it. Starting to thing that pretty much all the reviews are paid by Samsung. My last Samsung was S7 and back then I promised myself not to go back with the brand again. I deeply regret that now and reconfirm that I was right not to choose Samsung again.
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I have the snapdragon and my camera is really nice. Reason why I got the s20+. Coming from an op7pro
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Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.
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I have the snapdragon and my camera is really nice. Reason why I got the s20+. Coming from an op7pro
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After sometimes testing the s20+
- Overexposed: most time i have HDR activated, why i haven't problems with that
- Saturated images: the default display of the screen is already set to "vivid", on my pc they seem better.
- Oversharpened, right..
I would have preferred to have more manual control without having to go through the raw pro mode:
- Rendered slightly grainy rather than too smooth, oil-painted
- Manual control of jpeg compression, better quality image files
‐ Sharpness adjusted according to the subject photographed: more sharpness for a landscape, less for a portrait
- Have the ability to use the raw format for the ultra wide angle lens
Sorry for my english
I have the Snapdragon. Only problem I have really noticed is I have a hard time getting the phone to focus on things up close. Like I tried to take a picture of the front and back of an insurance card thx other day while it was laying on the counter, and the camera just couldn't figure it out. I had to close the camera a couple times and come back in before it focused.
At the lowest sensitivity, at 40 iso, the rendering is without texture, it's too smooth!
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Can't agree more! This phone camera is useless!!! Literally! Even with the 64 MPx the photos are not up to the level they have to be. I had Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - both phones are hundreds of times better than this one. Can't believe that i spend money to buy it. Even that I watched a lot of reviews before buying it. Starting to thing that pretty much all the reviews are paid by Samsung. My last Samsung was S7 and back then I promised myself not to go back with the brand again. I deeply regret that now and reconfirm that I was right not to choose Samsung again.
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Simply not true. I have tested the Mi Note 10 vs the [email protected] 64MP and it got destroyed, even with GCAM.
Did you turned off bixby optimizer?
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Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.
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No its not, its actually better.
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Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.
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Its the opposite, anandtech review says exynos variant has an upper hand compared to snapdragons this year.
anandtech must have been drinking then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU
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anandtech must have been drinking then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU
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So you pick youtube video with old firmware, of semi pro reviewer, vs the best on the planet? yeah, no.
Oh, wow. Why are all these folks having these issues? I haven't noticed anything wrong yet.
roaduardo said:
Oh, wow. Why are all these folks having these issues? I haven't noticed anything wrong yet.
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These are not "issues", they only compare it with the snapdragon and seeing from the reviews, it's a lot (15%-20%)better.
I would not go that far to call the exynos camera ****, but the snapdragon-version does look better.
There's even a petition. https://www.change.org/p/samsung-stop-selling-us-inferior-exynos-phones
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S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?
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Post some comparisons of your pixel2 and s20 so we can compare these "garbage" photos.
Snapdragon S20+ here. The camera is not "absolute garbage". It's not Pixel quality, but it's better than 90% of everything else.
I always find these threads hillarious
If you don't like it get something else it's no harm done is it..
I've really got a point with smartphones where what someone likes isn't what someone else does.
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Simply not true. I have tested the Mi Note 10 vs the [email protected] 64MP and it got destroyed, even with GCAM.
Did you turned off bixby optimizer?
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And because you say so, how this should change my opinion? You are trying to convince me that your opinion is more valuable and correct than mine... Wrong approach buddy. Here we are expressing our POV.
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And because you say so, how this should change my opinion? You are trying to convince me that your opinion is more valuable and correct than mine... Wrong approach buddy. Here we are expressing our POV.
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You got PM.
Being in lockdown really does not show the S20+ in it's best light. I have been taken fewer pictures most have have been in medium to low light and of my kids or cats and have been really disappointing. Even the slightest bit of movement results in a soft or blurry image. I switched back to my 4 XL last Friday (So glad I never sold it!) and the difference is night and day.
Such a shame as I really really like the S20+ as a device, I just cannot trust the camera right now.
My S20 camera is great and provide awesome photos, you must have missed something somewhere (in good lightning, in low light.. it's... yeah, no.)
hell i don't even know how to use the 64mp camera lol