hello guys. i do really need help.
im sorry i have some issue to be dealt with regarding to my hendheld which is samsung galaxy s5, i have a broken lcd with it and my samsung galaxy s5 is an korean version (SM-G900K). when i wanted to repair or replace it, i brought it to the samsung service center, however i lived in different country with the phone version, i live in indonesia. so just say that they (SSC) turned down my plea to repair my handheld because the version isn't available in the country and they're mumbling about not availability, different system and so on.
that was just a brief. actual question is, is the lcd version of all galaxy s5 versions are different each area? or all just the same and it's a kind of plug and play system whatsoever, so any version of lcds are aplicated one to another version. because if it possible i would just buy the sparepart of the s5's lcd and applicated by myself or private service center.
i asked dis question because this forum was one of helpful source of phone problem solver.
thank you very much i need a help really, hopefully you guys will.
-RSVP-
Regards, paradise.
paradise.wld said:
is the lcd version of all galaxy s5 versions are different each area?
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You're unlikely to get a knowledgeable answer to this. It's too new of a model and few people will have experience yet with repairing models from multiple regions. So unless someone working in a very large service center or Samsung design happens to see this and post a reply..
All I can do is suggest that the situation is likely similar to previous models. For instance on the S3, all of the LCDs per se were identical amongst variants. However the electronics were physically different. The end result being that Exynos models were not compatible with Qualcomm handsets. Amongst Qualcomm variants, they electronics were electrically interchangeable but some e.g. Sprint had different physical layouts and would not physically fit into a different variant case unless they were modified.
There is a general push to standardize parts to make them interchangeable. But I suspect that Samsung's policy to deter black market sales and the large manufacturing runs would lead them to deliberately make some if not all models incompatible. The bottom line though is that we don't know or at least I don't know and am extrapolating from previous models.
You should try to find out if the part numbers are the same between variants. And perhaps call some of the largest part suppliers and see if they have any feedback about part interoperability.
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Your best chance is if you or someone here maybe downloads the service manual for your model and compare to known models.
thank you very much it has been really helpful so far, im so desperate because i really need it, i hope more answers will be available for me. i'll try to do search more, and if there are more info's that u guys will have please be kind to inform me. thank you very much :good::good::good:
paradise.wld said:
hello guys. i do really need help.
im sorry i have some issue to be dealt with regarding to my hendheld which is samsung galaxy s5, i have a broken lcd with it and my samsung galaxy s5 is an korean version (SM-G900K). when i wanted to repair or replace it, i brought it to the samsung service center, however i lived in different country with the phone version, i live in indonesia. so just say that they (SSC) turned down my plea to repair my handheld because the version isn't available in the country and they're mumbling about not availability, different system and so on.
that was just a brief. actual question is, is the lcd version of all galaxy s5 versions are different each area? or all just the same and it's a kind of plug and play system whatsoever, so any version of lcds are aplicated one to another version. because if it possible i would just buy the sparepart of the s5's lcd and applicated by myself or private service center.
i asked dis question because this forum was one of helpful source of phone problem solver.
thank you very much i need a help really, hopefully you guys will.
-RSVP-
Regards, paradise.
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Look here for a replacement S5 screen http://shop.brando.com/Samsung-Gala...Display-with-Touch-Panel_p11093c0308d059.html. 155 USD. I think the S5 G900x screens are all the same.
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Look here for a replacement S5 screen shop.brando./Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Replacement-LCD-Display-with-Touch-Panel_p11093c0308d059.html. 155 USD. I think the S5 G900x screens are all the same.
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ya it seems right, but it's that work for sm-g900h?i didnt see the info. because in indonesia the model that sold here is sm-g900h, im afraid that the g900h were only available. btw it's really helpful if it turned out i can't go nowhere i'll by there thx very much
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ya it seems right, but it's that work for sm-g900h?i didnt see the info. because in indonesia the model that sold here is sm-g900h, im afraid that the g900h were only available. btw it's really helpful if it turned out i can't go nowhere i'll by there thx very much
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I thought you had a G900K as discribed in the OP?
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I thought you had a G900K as discribed in the OP?
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yes it is, i asked the previous question because, the availbility of the version that marketed in my country is sm-g900h, and mine is g900k. if i buy the lcd in my country im afraid the lcd that will be given to me by the ssc for only g900h or exynos type.
i saw the link before didn't mention about g900h, so it is possible that it was made for qualcomm type.
btw have you bought anything from brando shop?
paradise.wld said:
yes it is, i asked the previous question because, the availbility of the version that marketed in my country is sm-g900h, and mine is g900k. if i buy the lcd in my country im afraid the lcd that will be given to me by the ssc for only g900h or exynos type.
i saw the link before didn't mention about g900h, so it is possible that it was made for qualcomm type.
btw have you bought anything from brando shop?
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No but they ship all around the world and the site seems reputable. If you pay with a credit card your purchase/money payed is insured also if something should go wrong.
I can only assume that you did a Google search for LCD parts before posting here (shame on you, if you didn't).
Anyway, the interesting observation of such a search is that various vendors have markedly different interoperbility claims. Some claim that their LCD will fit all U.S. S5 models. Others claim "most carriers", Qualcomm only or various subsets of Exynos and Qualcomm models. If the LCD is the same for all S5 models then that only highlights that the information for some vendors is egregiously wrong. So which vendors to trust?
There is no credible information about this yet. It's equally plausible that the LCD-digitizer assembly could be identical on all variants. Or that Samsung might have made a handful of different versions as they did for past Galaxy Sx models. Caveat emptor.
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No but they ship all around the world and the site seems reputable. If you pay with a credit card your purchase/money payed is insured also if something should go wrong.
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ok got it thank you very much it has been helpin so much
Hong Kong based online vendor. Not a Hong Kong BBB member. Generally positive reviews.
However, their refund policy explicitly states:
We can only give refund if you receive defective product/s from Brando Workshop and we can only replace defective product/s that are purchased from Brando Workshop and we will not be liable for purchase of wrong product.
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Combine that with reports that they aren't always careful with their product specs and draw your own conclusions.
e.g. here:
"Dear friends,
I bought one pair of transceivers on Brando website (they are actually at the 2nd place on NGShopping "Most Popular")
link of the product:
http://www.ngshopping.com/Product-339408-Super-Power-10km-VHF-UHF-Dualband.aspx
UNFORTUNATELY the transceivers I received are NOT dual-band (VHF-UHF) as described on the site, but the Frequency Range is only: UHF: 400-470MHz.
They do not works on VHF!
I am disappointed, very very disappointed. I bought them mainly to use them on VHF because all my friends communicates on VHF frequencies.
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Hong Kong based online vendor. Not a Hong Kong BBB member. Generally positive reviews.
However, their refund policy explicitly states:
Combine that with reports that they aren't always careful with their product specs and draw your own conclusions.
e.g. here:
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i see. well haha i am really confusing right now i have no idea what should i do but looks like i dont have any choice and also actually another one which is going back to korea to repair it hahaha.
it has been really nice to share with this forum, it has been really a help. especially for the senior member fffft to help, really nice have a help from the pro. i hope this thread will ever be continued.
thanks and best Regards
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i see. well haha i am really confusing right now i have no idea what should i do but looks like i dont have any choice and also actually another one which is going back to korea to repair it hahaha.
it has been really nice to share with this forum, it has been really a help. especially for the senior member fffft to help, really nice have a help from the pro. i hope this thread will ever be continued.
thanks and best Regards
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Or look for another website where you can buy a S5 screen, Brando was just an example and you should always look into a site and search for user xperiences ordering from that site. But that is YOUR job, after all its your problem and we are just trying to assist
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Or look for another website where you can buy a S5 screen, Brando was just an example and you should always look into a site and search for user xperiences ordering from that site. But that is YOUR job, after all its your problem and we are just trying to assist
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ok understood. thank you very much for the help i will search for more infos untill i decided. thank you very much for the help. :good::good::good: :highfive::highfive::highfive:
I realize it's been about a year and a half since this has been discussed, but I'm looking at about the same issue with my Verizon S5. The digitizer is fine but the lcd has apparently shot craps. The screens really are tough like advertised. I rolled over mine with a creeper while under a trailer and didn't so much as scratch the screen. The LCD on the other hand apparently got smashed due to the pressure. So. This is a US Verizon S5. I've looked at replacement LCD/digitizer combos which run at the cheapest I've seen about $127 USD. I only paid like $224 for the phone so not to hip about spending that much to fix it. I've found broken S5s on ebay(I think through US cellular and another company I'd have to look up the name of) for around $65. They have busted digitizers, but have working LCDs. That would work for me if 1. The LCD will work with my phone even though the carrier is different. I assume the model is the same? And 2. I can get the busted digitizer off of the good LCD without trearing up the good LCD, clean the adhesive off, get my working digitizer off my broken LCD without tearing up my digitizer, clean off adhesive and apply new adhesive to bond the two... UV adhesive I assume so that will mean more $$ yay hah Any thoughts on this?
Sorry @RunDickRun......I wouldn't even bother to attempt to remove the lcd from the digitizer.....The lcd is wafer thin and *incredibly* fragile......
You *will* break it if you attempt to separate it....it's pretty much guaranteed....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Sorry @RunDickRun......I wouldn't even bother to attempt to remove the lcd from the digitizer.....The lcd is wafer thin and *incredibly* fragile......
You *will* break it if you attempt to separate it....it's pretty much guaranteed....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Yup. I've never had much luck with it before(I also didn't care about breaking the LCD before either). I've scratched that idea. Found a LCD/Digitizer for $90. That'll have to do I guess
Good luck fella.....going to be a hell of a lot easier than recycling parts of the old one.......
Where did you source the new one.....can you post a link in case others might need this?
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Good luck fella.....going to be a hell of a lot easier than recycling parts of the old one.......
Where did you source the new one.....can you post a link in case others might need this?
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Ebay. I've bought multiple screens and parts off Ebay. They are usually fair quality. Read the descriptions thoroughly is my only advice. Make sure you know exactly what you are getting and that you get exactly what you want.
Hey everyone,
Not sure exactly how to start this thread, but this is not only going to include a few questions from me, but also discussion on how this is possible, have you seen anything like it, and why its done?
So to start off, a few weeks ago my dad dropped his Galaxy A5 and broke the screen, long story short, got him a new phone, was a brand new flat Galaxy S7 from a local store in Pakistan.
The seller was very persistent in saying that it's a 100% genuine and even has warranty, albeit not one that applies in Pakistan, but it does have 'foreign warranty'.
Now I have to mention here that there are normally 3 types of phones available here:
-Sold officially through an authorized distributor / retailer. An official Samsung Galaxy S7 goes for about 620 USD with 1 year warranty and accidental coverage in Pakistan.
-Smuggled / imported illegally from abroad. Usually still sealed, you can tell because of the foreign languages on the instruction booklet, and/or a European CSC. A smuggled Galaxy S7 would go for about 550 - 570 USD.
-American variants of flagship phones, more commonly known as 'kit' phones. Imported in bulk, wrapped in bubble wrap, and shipped as is. No box, no accessories. Just the phone itself. A 'kit' T-Mobile Galaxy S7 (G930T) for example, would be around 400 - 420 USD depending on the seller.
I chose for option 2, the smuggled / imported one, for the sole reason that the official retailer for Samsung did not have a flat GS7 in stock, there was a 2 week waiting period. So I went for the smuggled one, since it was raining heavily that night, I was in a hurry to get home, so I didn't even open the phone in the shop, I just picked up what I thought was a 'brand new' phone and went on my way. The box said G930F, and Silver Titanium on it. It also had a suspicious 'Smart Care 24 month warranty' sticker on the top left corner of the box.
ALSO, I needed a Dual SIM phone, so I assumed the box would say G930FD, but it didn't, again, I noticed all this stuff when I got home.
See here:
As I started noticing these little things, I instantly noticed the sticker on the front of the box said:
SM-G9300FZKAXSG
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Now, the G9300 model means it's the Chinese / HK variant, with the Snapdragon 820, rather than the Exynos 8890.
However, the 'FZKAXSG' part was obviously fake, because the first few letters refer to the device colour and storage or something, and the 'XSG' part refers to the UAE CSC, which is impossible, since the G9300 is exclusive to HK and China.
I was hesitant to open the box, but I still went ahead with it, since fake boxes are also common here, I reluctantly cut the seal, and pulled out the phone, which at first glance, did not look silver AT ALL, in fact it looked nothing like my Silver Titanium S7 edge. It looked more 'Gold' to me than anything else, but I could be wrong.
In fact, it seems as if it's a mix of both Silver and Gold.
Excuse the fingerprints and air bubbles, I had actually put the plastic back on, after checking the phone, this picture was taken after I was done with the phone.
Turn the phone around, and there's the ordinary Samsung DUOS branding, underneath is where the sh*t begins. The font in which the IMEI, S/N, and country of origin are written looked 100% fake and again, nothing like the way it's written on my S7 Edge.
Furthermore, it said G930F on the back, which it definitely wasn't.
The sticker on the back that should've said G930FD if it actually was a Dual SIM, said G9300 instead. The IMEIs check out to be clean, but do not belong to an S7, you can check online.
Unsurprisingly, the accessories are also upside down, on my S7 Edge box, the headphones are on top, and the charger and cable are below it.
Now, I turned the phone on, went through the setup process, this is where I just wanted to punch myself and the seller.
Settings > About > Model Number: SM-G9300
It was Android 6.0.1, with a security patch of June 2016.
There was no Software update button anywhere in the settings app.
I downloaded the Phone Info app, and installed it. It said 0x0 KNOX, model number SM-G9300. Manufacturing date was March 2016, and the Colour / Internal Storage tab says 'Gold / 32GB'.
I checked the firmware tab, where the Bootloader, PDA and Baseband showed that of a G9300, but the CSC code said 'G9350ZZH1ABP9', which is that of an S7 Edge.
CSC code itself said 'TGY' which is a Hong Kong CSC, which I assume was done to get Google Play Services installed on the phone, since the G9300 has only one firmware available on SamMobile, which has a CHC CSC, which is Chinese, which means no Google Apps installed.
And just to confirm any remaining doubts I had, the Phone Info app confirmed it was a Snapdragon 820, and not the Exynos 8890.
So, this has fake IMEIs, a strange ROM with parts of the flat S7 and the S7 edge, a fake back cover, and probably because of the fake back cover, the camera hump and the chrome ring around the heart beat sensor and flash is protruding a lot more than it should be.
I then went back to the seller, where there was another guy already arguing with him, he had sold the same G9300 phone to that guy who was complaining that the phone would FC a lot, and was getting extremely warm.
I knew this seller, so I asked him to cut the bull**** and give me a 'real' brand new Galaxy S7. He handed me another shady looking S7 box, with G930FD on the back, took the phone out and it checks out to be a 930FD, hardware wise at least. Works like one, looks like one, has an Exynos chipset. BUT, NO Serial Number and IMEIs of a G930A? WTF
I then asked him about that again, where he goes to say, 'all the S7s coming to Pakistan are like this'. In the same location, there were a few other shops selling S7s and sadly, they were all like this. Fake back covers, fake IMEIs, fake boxes, and no serial numbers. They all work fine though.
Here is a Gold Platinum GS7 that I got from him, that works fine as well, but just has the weird protruding camera hump and the fake back cover that has the fake font and no Serial number written on it.
Sorry for the extremely long post, just wanted to create this thread for discussion purposes and to express how saddening it is to see this sort of crap happening, only in Pakistan as far as I know.
Let me know if you've seen anything like this before, and if so, where? Also, how do they manage to pull it off? Flashing different IMEIs, and why do the phones not have a Serial Number in the settings app? It just comes up as a bunch of random numbers, rather than starting with Rxxxxxxx and Phone Info detects no S/N at all.
However, all the phones have 0x0 KNOX and work perfectly fine as well. In fact, I even flashed 7.0 Nougat on it, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Hey everyone,
Not sure exactly how to start this thread, but this is not only going to include a few questions from me, but also discussion on how this is possible, have you seen anything like it, and why its done?
So to start off, a few weeks ago my dad dropped his Galaxy A5 and broke the screen, long story short, got him a new phone, was a brand new flat Galaxy S7 from a local store in Pakistan.
The seller was very persistent in saying that it's a 100% genuine and even has warranty, albeit not one that applies in Pakistan, but it does have 'foreign warranty'.
Now I have to mention here that there are normally 3 types of phones available here:
-Sold officially through an authorized distributor / retailer. An official Samsung Galaxy S7 goes for about 620 USD with 1 year warranty and accidental coverage in Pakistan.
-Smuggled / imported illegally from abroad. Usually still sealed, you can tell because of the foreign languages on the instruction booklet, and/or a European CSC. A smuggled Galaxy S7 would go for about 550 - 570 USD.
-American variants of flagship phones, more commonly known as 'kit' phones. Imported in bulk, wrapped in bubble wrap, and shipped as is. No box, no accessories. Just the phone itself. A 'kit' T-Mobile Galaxy S7 (G930T) for example, would be around 400 - 420 USD depending on the seller.
I chose for option 2, the smuggled / imported one, for the sole reason that the official retailer for Samsung did not have a flat GS7 in stock, there was a 2 week waiting period. So I went for the smuggled one, since it was raining heavily that night, I was in a hurry to get home, so I didn't even open the phone in the shop, I just picked up what I thought was a 'brand new' phone and went on my way. The box said G930F, and Silver Titanium on it. It also had a suspicious 'Smart Care 24 month warranty' sticker on the top left corner of the box.
ALSO, I needed a Dual SIM phone, so I assumed the box would say G930FD, but it didn't, again, I noticed all this stuff when I got home.
See here:
As I started noticing these little things, I instantly noticed the sticker on the front of the box said:
Now, the G9300 model means it's the Chinese / HK variant, with the Snapdragon 820, rather than the Exynos 8890.
However, the 'FZKAXSG' part was obviously fake, because the first few letters refer to the device colour and storage or something, and the 'XSG' part refers to the UAE CSC, which is impossible, since the G9300 is exclusive to HK and China.
I was hesitant to open the box, but I still went ahead with it, since fake boxes are also common here, I reluctantly cut the seal, and pulled out the phone, which at first glance, did not look silver AT ALL, in fact it looked nothing like my Silver Titanium S7 edge. It looked more 'Gold' to me than anything else, but I could be wrong.
In fact, it seems as if it's a mix of both Silver and Gold.
Excuse the fingerprints and air bubbles, I had actually put the plastic back on, after checking the phone, this picture was taken after I was done with the phone.
Turn the phone around, and there's the ordinary Samsung DUOS branding, underneath is where the sh*t begins. The font in which the IMEI, S/N, and country of origin are written looked 100% fake and again, nothing like the way it's written on my S7 Edge.
Furthermore, it said G930F on the back, which it definitely wasn't.
The sticker on the back that should've said G930FD if it actually was a Dual SIM, said G9300 instead. The IMEIs check out to be clean, but do not belong to an S7, you can check online.
Unsurprisingly, the accessories are also upside down, on my S7 Edge box, the headphones are on top, and the charger and cable are below it.
Now, I turned the phone on, went through the setup process, this is where I just wanted to punch myself and the seller.
Settings > About > Model Number: SM-G9300
It was Android 6.0.1, with a security patch of June 2016.
There was no Software update button anywhere in the settings app.
I downloaded the Phone Info app, and installed it. It said 0x0 KNOX, model number SM-G9300. Manufacturing date was March 2016, and the Colour / Internal Storage tab says 'Gold / 32GB'.
I checked the firmware tab, where the Bootloader, PDA and Baseband showed that of a G9300, but the CSC code said 'G9350ZZH1ABP9', which is that of an S7 Edge.
CSC code itself said 'TGY' which is a Hong Kong CSC, which I assume was done to get Google Play Services installed on the phone, since the G9300 has only one firmware available on SamMobile, which has a CHC CSC, which is Chinese, which means no Google Apps installed.
And just to confirm any remaining doubts I had, the Phone Info app confirmed it was a Snapdragon 820, and not the Exynos 8890.
So, this has fake IMEIs, a strange ROM with parts of the flat S7 and the S7 edge, a fake back cover, and probably because of the fake back cover, the camera hump and the chrome ring around the heart beat sensor and flash is protruding a lot more than it should be.
I then went back to the seller, where there was another guy already arguing with him, he had sold the same G9300 phone to that guy who was complaining that the phone would FC a lot, and was getting extremely warm.
I knew this seller, so I asked him to cut the bull**** and give me a 'real' brand new Galaxy S7. He handed me another shady looking S7 box, with G930FD on the back, took the phone out and it checks out to be a 930FD, hardware wise at least. Works like one, looks like one, has an Exynos chipset. BUT, NO Serial Number and IMEIs of a G930A? WTF
I then asked him about that again, where he goes to say, 'all the S7s coming to Pakistan are like this'. In the same location, there were a few other shops selling S7s and sadly, they were all like this. Fake back covers, fake IMEIs, fake boxes, and no serial numbers. They all work fine though.
Here is a Gold Platinum GS7 that I got from him, that works fine as well, but just has the weird protruding camera hump and the fake back cover that has the fake font and no Serial number written on it.
Sorry for the extremely long post, just wanted to create this thread for discussion purposes and to express how saddening it is to see this sort of crap happening, only in Pakistan as far as I know.
Let me know if you've seen anything like this before, and if so, where? Also, how do they manage to pull it off? Flashing different IMEIs, and why do the phones not have a Serial Number in the settings app? It just comes up as a bunch of random numbers, rather than starting with Rxxxxxxx and Phone Info detects no S/N at all.
However, all the phones have 0x0 KNOX and work perfectly fine as well. In fact, I even flashed 7.0 Nougat on it, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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To be honest, the option you selected was the worst of all three. Purchasing a new boxed pack phone without local warranty is a very risky idea. I have bought a Note 4 Exynos, an S6 and an S7 during the last couple of years.
The Note 4 was N910C version in used condition with box and all accessories.
S6 was box packed without warranty or you can say with international warranty.
S7 was a verizon kit.
Guess what? The S6 proved to be my worst purchase ever. After a couple of months its charger stopped working and again after few days the handsfree also broke. While the Note 4 worked perfectly with all its accessories through out my holding period. Currently the S7 is also working perfectly and even its pressure sensor is showing the correct readings which shows it is still water proof sealed.
So always remember that in Pakistani markets, buying a new phone without local warranty is just like buying a refurbished phone and is 99% of the times, a waste of money.
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Pretty sure these devices are stolen/reported stolen/bad imei devices bought from another country. IMEI's have then been changed and serial numbers removed (not sure how they did that) so that they cannot be traced back. Boxes can be original or fake.
Also, your seller is shady, very shady. Pretty sure he knows what he's selling , else he would go after his distributor for selling him fake phones, but he aint. So, he very well knows what phone he's selling.
If I were in your position, I would have waited 2 weeks and got one from Samsung authorized seller.
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To be honest, the option you selected was the worst of all three. Purchasing a new boxed pack phone without local warranty is a very risky idea. I have bought a Note 4 Exynos, an S6 and an S7 during the last couple of years.
The Note 4 was N910C version in used condition with box and all accessories.
S6 was box packed without warranty or you can say with international warranty.
S7 was a verizon kit.
Guess what? The S6 proved to be my worst purchase ever. After a couple of months its charger stopped working and again after few days the handsfree also broke. While the Note 4 worked perfectly with all its accessories through out my holding period. Currently the S7 is also working perfectly and even its pressure sensor is showing the correct readings which shows it is still water proof sealed.
So always remember that in Pakistani markets, buying a new phone without local warranty is just like buying a refurbished phone and is 99% of the times, a waste of money.
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I might know you from another forum, PG.
Tbh, Karachi is a way different market than the crap you get here in Rawalpindi. There's way more variety there than there is here.
The things you mentioned with the S6, only the accessories died, which meant the phone was okay I guess?
Same for the S7, I'm not using the provided charger, I'm using my own that I got from Dubai.
Haven't tried the headphones.
Other than that however, the phone works perfectly.
I haven't had an issue before like this, most of the brand new phones I do buy are without local warranties, I don't fancy paying 10-15k extra for something I'll never use.
And believe me, thankfully, I've never had the need for a warranty.
The exception being my current S7 edge, which I've bought with the local warranty and insurance because the other ones weren't available.
Appreciate the post though, and the advice. After this I'm kinda spooked, so I'll probably stick to local warranties then, even though they're unreasonably expensive.
Cheers buddy, nice to see Pakistanis on XDA.
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Pretty sure these devices are stolen/reported stolen/bad imei devices bought from another country. IMEI's have then been changed and serial numbers removed (not sure how they did that) so that they cannot be traced back. Boxes can be original or fake.
Also, your seller is shady, very shady. Pretty sure he knows what he's selling , else he would go after his distributor for selling him fake phones, but he aint. So, he very well knows what phone he's selling.
If I were in your position, I would have waited 2 weeks and got one from Samsung authorized seller.
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The original IMEIs were probably bad, hence them being changed to those of different phones, makes sense.
I myself didn't know that erasing or changing serials and IMEIs on Exynos phones was possible.
Sadly, the shady seller thing is true, all sellers know what they're selling, but each one will react differently when asked about it. Some will eventually crack and be honest, some will be stubborn d*cks and not admit it, and some will be so scared of the authorities that they'll offer you some form of compensation.
Advice taken though, and definitely will be used for the next purchase. I was looking forward to getting an imported Galaxy S8 then, but after this experience, I'll probably just settle for the officially sold one with a legit warranty.
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murtaza02 said:
The original IMEIs were probably bad, hence them being changed to those of different phones, makes sense.
I myself didn't know that erasing or changing serials and IMEIs on Exynos phones was possible.
Sadly, the shady seller thing is true, all sellers know what they're selling, but each one will react differently when asked about it. Some will eventually crack and be honest, some will be stubborn d*cks and not admit it, and some will be so scared of the authorities that they'll offer you some form of compensation.
Advice taken though, and definitely will be used for the next purchase. I was looking forward to getting an imported Galaxy S8 then, but after this experience, I'll probably just settle for the officially sold one with a legit warranty.
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Samsung Service box is what they would have used I guess, same hardware as that at official Samsung repair center.
Also, because you are technically sound/tech sayvy you found that the first one was fake. Someone who is not technically sound would never have found that out and kept using it assuming it's the real thing.
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Samsung Service box is what they would have used I guess, same hardware as that at official Samsung repair center.
Also, because you are technically sound/tech sayvy you found that the first one was fake. Someone who is not technically sound would never have found that out and kept using it assuming it's the real thing.
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All tips and tricks I've learnt from XDA. I honestly wouldn't be able to tell at all, if I hadn't read so much stuff here.
Another thing I wonder is if the refurbishment or tampering was done inside Pakistan, or somewhere abroad and then the boxes get repacked and sent here?
Because it's really inconsistent how the boxes are so well copied, they look exactly like real ones, but then the IMEI stickers, the different font on the back cover, the protruding camera lens is where they lack the finesse, and their shoddy workmanship starts to show.
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All tips and tricks I've learnt from XDA. I honestly wouldn't be able to tell at all, if I hadn't read so much stuff here.
Another thing I wonder is if the refurbishment or tampering was done inside Pakistan, or somewhere abroad and then the boxes get repacked and sent here?
Because it's really inconsistent how the boxes are so well copied, they look exactly like real ones, but then the IMEI stickers, the different font on the back cover, the protruding camera lens is where they lack the finesse, and their shoddy workmanship starts to show.
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No clue on that.. Would be profitable to do it inside your own country though...
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I have seen similar things but your case is unique. You should return the phone and ask for full refund from your seller and then buy phone from Samsung store.
We can't say for sure about that other shops or market is selling same phones. May be it is just your guy.
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Guys, could you with 930F and FD confirm if the serial number is printed on the back cover of your phones?
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Guys, could you with 930F and FD confirm if the serial number is printed on the back cover of your phones?
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Yep, G930F laid out like this
IMEI xxxxxx/xxxxx/xxxx. SN xxxxxxxxxx
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Yep, G930F laid out like this
IMEI xxxxxx/xxxxx/xxxx. SN xxxxxxxxxx
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Much appreciated.
Country of origin mentioned as well?
Actually I'm going out tomorrow to return the refurbished ones to the seller and get a refund.
Gonna show him this thread just to prove him wrong. Idiot keeps insisting that S/N isn't printed on the S7, but it is on the S7 edge.
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Much appreciated.
Country of origin mentioned as well?
Actually I'm going out tomorrow to return the refurbished ones to the seller and get a refund.
Gonna show him this thread just to prove him wrong. Idiot keeps insisting that S/N isn't printed on the S7, but it is on the S7 edge.
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CE0168 (!) (Not to be disposed in bins symbol here)
G930F SAMSUNG, YATELEY, GU46 6GG, UK
DESIGNED & ENGINEERED BY SAMSUNG
IMEI: XXXXXX/XX/XXXXXX/X S/N: XXXXXXXXXX
That's everything it says at the bottom of the back panel of the G930F S7 Flat
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CE0168 (!) (Not to be disposed in bins symbol here)
G930F SAMSUNG, YATELEY, GU46 6GG, UK
DESIGNED & ENGINEERED BY SAMSUNG
IMEI: XXXXXX/XX/XXXXXX/X S/N: XXXXXXXXXX
That's everything it says at the bottom of the back panel of the G930F S7 Flat
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That's exactly how it is on my S7 edge as well.
Thanks for confirming.
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That's exactly how it is on my S7 edge as well.
Thanks for confirming.
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No probs, good luck with the refund
How do you know the phone is even genuine samsung hardware, not fake imitations that china manufacturers are pumping out?
The stolen IMEI is possible but why would changing that number require a new fake back cover to be put in place? Seems very odd.
Also regarding dodgy sellers knowing what they selling usually by their reaction you can tell if they aware, e.g. I brought 2 western digital hard drives from amazon about 6 months ago from a 3rd party selller, I noticed odd behaviour with the drives so started checking details of the firmware etc. and then someone gave me a tip to check the serial numbers on western digital's website, sure enough the serials were invalid and that confirmed they were fake's. It turned out the seller was in my city, so I paid him a visit, he wasnt there but I spoke to him on the phone, and he was giving me excuses like they HP OEM drives not using WD warranty, for sure I knew then he knew what he was selling, as otherwise he would have been in shock, thank me for the discovery and pulled his product of the amazon website. In the end he refunded me and I purchased them again directly from amazon.
I live in the UK which shows this stuff isnt limited to eastern countries.
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Guys, could you with 930F and FD confirm if the serial number is printed on the back cover of your phones?
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Yes. The back says "SM G930FD. DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED BY SAMSUNG. MANUFACTURED IN INDIA. IMEI 1/2 and then the S/N"
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I don't know man. Phone Info claimed the phone was genuine but was missing a valid Samsung S/N.
It showed Exynos 8890 and everything seemed okay, it even accepted a G930F Odin file and I flashed it to Nougat.
IMEIs belonged to some budget AT&T phones from the US, the quality of the back cover was horrendous, you could tell the font was wrong, and don't even get me started on the box. It was so poorly copied, I just hate myself for not checking while I was at the store.
Anyway, I did eventually go back and get a refund from him, and I'm sure as hell not going back to that guy again.
He was so stubborn, he refused to admit they were refurbished / fakes and kept insisting they were brand new.
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Yes. The back says "SM G930FD. DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED BY SAMSUNG. MANUFACTURED IN INDIA. IMEI 1/2 and then the S/N"
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The fake didn't say anything about being engineered by Samsung.
It was like:
SM-G930F SAMSUNG YATELEY GU46 6GG UK
MADE BY SAMSUNG
IMEI 1: IMEI 2:
No S/N and no country of origin either. Also, none of the phones said G930FD regardless of being Dual SIM.
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I don't know man. Phone Info claimed the phone was genuine but was missing a valid Samsung S/N.
It showed Exynos 8890 and everything seemed okay, it even accepted a G930F Odin file and I flashed it to Nougat.
IMEIs belonged to some budget AT&T phones from the US, the quality of the back cover was horrendous, you could tell the font was wrong, and don't even get me started on the box. It was so poorly copied, I just hate myself for not checking while I was at the store.
Anyway, I did eventually go back and get a refund from him, and I'm sure as hell not going back to that guy again.
He was so stubborn, he refused to admit they were refurbished / fakes and kept insisting they were brand new.
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We have a market here in Bombay where you get almost perfect knockoff phones. They're so perfect that you can't figure out what's real and what's not.
My regular phonewalla was telling me about how he got scammed by someone who exchanged a fake S7 (somehow they don't seem to have S7 edge fakes) for 25k rupees and bought some other phone. He only found out when he sold that phone to another customer and that customer took it to the service center for some issue.
He's now started making sure that people's numbers are actually their own and asking for address proof whilst exchanging phones.
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Hi everybody, i need help about replace the motherboard of my galaxy note 4. I will do it because i think that the eMMC of my device is completely messed, i've tried everything in modding but nothing help, the device it's barely usable, it keep rebooting and it lag, only if i use the app to keep the cpu awake it's usable. Plus it doesn't read the sim card anymore. All started when one day, totaly random, it do a factory reset by itself and i lost EVERYTHING in the phone. So i see that on aliexpress they sell motherboard for my n910f, if i buy and replace the one i have now, it should all work without any problem? thanks for any advice
ps: sorry for my bad english, i'm italian
Have you tried this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3488114
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I can confirm that once you get the eMMC read failure messages there isn't any coming back from it unless you either A) Replace the eMMC itself or B) Replace the Motherboard. Since trying to micro-solder an eMMC chip would be way to difficult for most people out there (myself included, I cant solder for s***) the motherboard replacement would be the way to go.
I did try all the "fixes" here on XDA I could find, but none worked. Flashing the full recovery software in Odin took AGES (15 + minutes, it never took me that long, plus then 20 minutes to even boot)
Finding the part is one thing, installing it is another. I have never tried replacing a phone motherboard but my main concern would be if the board is unlocked, or atleast knowing the carrier it was locked to in order to get a valid unlock code somewhere online.
I was told by a few repair shops locally that its totally possible to replace the motherboard but there was a risk the screen would also break (So a replacement may be needed there as well). Honestly it might have been that they just didn't have very good luck with taking these Note 4's apart without damage or they just were inexperienced. But in the end for me when my first Note 4 hit the eMMC error, I sold it for parts (sPen, Screen, battery ect) and bought another Note 4 second hand
Theres a ton a speculation about this chip issue, be it heat killing them, consistant flashing or just a bad batch of chips used and now failing over time.
cash2387 said:
I can confirm that once you get the eMMC read failure messages there isn't any coming back from it unless you either A) Replace the eMMC itself or B) Replace the Motherboard. Since trying to micro-solder an eMMC chip would be way to difficult for most people out there (myself included, I cant solder for s***) the motherboard replacement would be the way to go.
I did try all the "fixes" here on XDA I could find, but none worked. Flashing the full recovery software in Odin took AGES (15 + minutes, it never took me that long, plus then 20 minutes to even boot)
Finding the part is one thing, installing it is another. I have never tried replacing a phone motherboard but my main concern would be if the board is unlocked, or atleast knowing the carrier it was locked to in order to get a valid unlock code somewhere online.
I was told by a few repair shops locally that its totally possible to replace the motherboard but there was a risk the screen would also break (So a replacement may be needed there as well). Honestly it might have been that they just didn't have very good luck with taking these Note 4's apart without damage or they just were inexperienced. But in the end for me when my first Note 4 hit the eMMC error, I sold it for parts (sPen, Screen, battery ect) and bought another Note 4 second hand
Theres a ton a speculation about this chip issue, be it heat killing them, consistant flashing or just a bad batch of chips used and now failing over time.
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thanks for the reply! ok so, i must have to buy the motherboard. I've find one interesting on aliexpress, 55$ and full unlocked (at least they said that), replace it isn't very hard cause you don't have to take the screen off, just the rear parts of the phone (i've already did it when i change the headphone jack), so Tomorrow i order it and when it arrive i will tell you if it works i hope so at least
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thanks for the reply! ok so, i must have to buy the motherboard. I've find one interesting on aliexpress, 55$ and full unlocked (at least they said that), replace it isn't very hard cause you don't have to take the screen off, just the rear parts of the phone (i've already did it when i change the headphone jack), so Tomorrow i order it and when it arrive i will tell you if it works i hope so at least
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Best of luck with it and hopefully the swap goes well. I probably could have tried finding parts but the 910W8 model is different I guess.
I have replaced a mainboard with one from aliexpress, which generally worked fine, but for done reason my gps didn't work. Not sure if that was a problem with the board or just some connector not during properly?
Regarding the emmc error, I've actually managed to revive the old board after it had been sorry of bricked by the previous owner in a failed flashing attempt by putting it in the fridge while flashing the firmware with Odin (on xda someone suggested this, they actually say to put it in the freezer for a while, but I don't have a freezer and putting it in the fridge and taking it out for flashing want enough). It still has the error, but seemed to run relatively ok with a wakelock app preventing the CPU from falling asleep.
Though I get your idea, it feels safer to have a fully working mainboard.
The only problem buying a motherboard is from other sources other than Samsung you not sure if the MBA are brand new. I would say go to Samsung and pay for a new MBA and they will write your original serial number and IMEI to the new MB and you get a warranty..
Just replaced a mainboard...
Bought more than a year ago a faulty Note 4 thinking it was one with a faulty screen as the blue LED and vibrator would come on while pushing the start button and the phone was recognized by my PC. Turned out to be a faulty MB and while trying to replace the MB I damaged the screen.
So I ended putting all on the shelf. Meanwhile bought a note4 for my wife and figured that the spare MB could serve her phone in case it would go bad...Then recently stumbled upon a faulty note 4 where the owner claimed it was one with a faulty MB. The asking price was ok so I ended up buying it and fitting the spare MB. I was lucky in a way that the previous owner already swapped the display so it came apart very easy. I did put all in place using the OEM tape ordered specially for the Note 4. It is a fact that this MB is manufactured in Feb 2015 so it could be well that in the near future it fails although when checking the chip with the app it tells me I have a sane ship...
trasposone said:
Hi everybody, i need help about replace the motherboard of my galaxy note 4. I will do it because i think that the eMMC of my device is completely messed, i've tried everything in modding but nothing help, the device it's barely usable, it keep rebooting and it lag, only if i use the app to keep the cpu awake it's usable. Plus it doesn't read the sim card anymore. All started when one day, totaly random, it do a factory reset by itself and i lost EVERYTHING in the phone. So i see that on aliexpress they sell motherboard for my n910f, if i buy and replace the one i have now, it should all work without any problem? thanks for any advice
ps: sorry for my bad english, i'm italian
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You should search for videos on replacing the MB in the Note 4; it seems to be fairly involved and you run the risk of causing additional damage to your phone.
Samsung in the US is replacing MBs for about $50 to $150. I got mine replaced (plus a bunch of other repairs) for $70 (which is about the same cost of a MB through AliExpress). Samsung paid the postage for me send my phone to Samsung Service in Plano, TX, they then diagnosed the problems and said they would fix it for $70 or they would return the phone without repairing it at no charge. My phone was over two years old and out of warranty. I had them repair the phone and it was returned in like new condition and it is still working great. The entire process took about 10 days.
You may want to contact Samsung Customer Service directly (in the US call 1-800-SAMSUNG) and see if they are willing to look at your phone and hopefully make any needed repairs.
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You should search for videos on replacing the MB in the Note 4; it seems to be fairly involved and you run the risk of causing additional damage to your phone.
Samsung in the US is replacing MBs for about $50 to $150. I got mine replaced (plus a bunch of other repairs) for $70 (which is about the same cost of a MB through AliExpress). Samsung paid the postage for me send my phone to Samsung Service in Plano, TX, they then diagnosed the problems and said they would fix it for $70 or they would return the phone without repairing it at no charge. My phone was over two years old and out of warranty. I had them repair the phone and it was returned in like new condition and it is still working great. The entire process took about 10 days.
You may want to contact Samsung Customer Service directly (in the US call 1-800-SAMSUNG) and see if they are willing to look at your phone and hopefully make any needed repairs.
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Thanks for the info will try it, my note 4 will not even
finish booting anymore. It is alteady out of warranty hope they don't mind it is rooted.
There are plenty of video's on you tube on how to. Look at them, look at different video's to get as much info as needed. Don't mess around with you screen, just replace the mainboard and you will be ok! Mine still goes very strong, its GPS is working very well even indoors. I owed a few Note 4's and this is the first one where the GPS is usable. Putting both note's side by side...well one GPS gets a fix and the other one.......well is useless! Did the same with a Note 2 where I replaced a faulty mainboard and this thing has the fastest GPS I ever seen. This Note was due to be sold but I have decided to hang on to it a bit longer...
Hi I am Samsung Note 4 user I have a problem since yesterday it is not registering on 4G or Lte Network only 2G is working. I tried lot but could not fix this problem. I changed the setting LTE/WCDMA but still it is not registering. Can and body helps me to resolve this issue. even I format my phone also by the problem could not rectified. I visited Samsung Center they are saying there is problem in motherboard. for replacement it costs 280$ in India which is very huge.
Dwillian said:
You should search for videos on replacing the MB in the Note 4; it seems to be fairly involved and you run the risk of causing additional damage to your phone.
Samsung in the US is replacing MBs for about $50 to $150. I got mine replaced (plus a bunch of other repairs) for $70 (which is about the same cost of a MB through AliExpress). Samsung paid the postage for me send my phone to Samsung Service in Plano, TX, they then diagnosed the problems and said they would fix it for $70 or they would return the phone without repairing it at no charge. My phone was over two years old and out of warranty. I had them repair the phone and it was returned in like new condition and it is still working great. The entire process took about 10 days.
You may want to contact Samsung Customer Service directly (in the US call 1-800-SAMSUNG) and see if they are willing to look at your phone and hopefully make any needed repairs.
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$50 to $150 is a pretty big range considering whatever caused these issues is originally still on Samsung itself for cheaping out. I thought about going the AliExpress route but I've never bought from there before and their site isn't the easiest to navigate...seems every seller with reviews is selling used boards (questionable lifespan?) and the ones with no reviews appear to have brand new ones, but are these brand new with the same old issue, so we're buying boards with borrowed time or is there a chance they're ones that won't have this issue. One could only hope that the new ones via AliExpress AND the ones being installed through Samsung have been revised to not have this issue, but we may never know until it takes a dump in another 3-4 years like the original phones appear to last.
I bought my phone used via Craigslist, so I hope that isn't their justification for additional gouging.
Hi all,
Looks like this guy on YouTube was experiencing the EXACT same issue that we're all experiencing (random restarts, boot loops, bricked phone, etc.) as a result of motherboard. I'm thinking about ordering one of the N910T motherboards off Aliexpress and hope for the best. I can't even restart my phone anymore...and I know my phone batteries are fully charged.
Seems like it works...I'm just nervous about taking it apart!
Regards,
Jeff
HI
i had troubles with my Note 4 lately, blocking and restarting randomly,
baked the motherboard in an oven and it worked great again but only for a 1 whole day then it only shows blue notification light when trying to turn on,
tried the baking today again at a bit higher temperature 200c for 10 min,
and it is completely dead now,
i am looking to buy another 910F board but reading the feedback on aliexpress seems like they are all baked, people are not satisfied, it works for a very short time,
dont know what to do,
can i put some other version like 9100 dual, some other that has better chips(not heating so much) exynos instead snapdragon or something like that?