Latest stock version for EU devices - OTAs and security updates - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Hey, can anyone provide and confirm which version of the stock firmware fits EU devices best? I bought used device with custom rom on it, and I'm curious which version should be base for my EU (german) device to get legit OTAs and security updates for my region? I'm a bit confused, because I couldn't find any proper adnotation for each firmware out there.
In other words, which stock rom versions will be suitable for European retEU XT1685 Moto G5 Plus? I don't want to mess something up if some stock firmwares are not meant to be flashed on EU device.
Please cleanse my concerns.
Cheers!

Mine is running NPNS25.137-33-5 also on reteu

dirkie171980 said:
Mine is running NPNS25.137-33-5 also on reteu
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I see, so you started from flat NPNS25.137-33? How about the -67 version on EU devices, as it fixes some issues ie with camera recording?

Thats only on retin, this is the latest on reteu.

Hmm I installed myself -35 version before, in settings i had retEU, but couldn't get any ota updates and was on january securities.

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Is there a full firmware available for the US version's latest NPNS25.137-35-5

I am trying to re-lock the bootloader, which requires flashing a stock firmware. But it won't allow flashing any older version due to older security patch. Any ideas?
Is the full firmware for the US version with May security update available somewhere?
If you're after the NPNS25.137-35-5 firmware, have a look here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 (Just ensure you download the firmware that doesn't have AMZ in its name for retail devices, AMZ is for Amazon Prime devices )
Please doublecheck that it's the right firmware for you - I'm trying to work out which firmwares are for which regions, but Motorola isn't making it easy...
EDIT - maybe people can confirm, is this accurate (I sourced the info from the Moto G5 Lenovo forums)?
G5 Plus (potter)
NPN25.137-15 (India), updated to NPN25.137.67 (March security patch)
NPN25.137-33 (EU?) - updated to NPNS25.137-33-5 (May security patch)
NPN25.137-35 (US?) - updated to NPNS25.137-35-5 (May security patch)
echo92 said:
If you're after the NPNS25.137-35-5 firmware, have a look here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 (Just ensure you download the firmware that doesn't have AMZ in its name for retail devices, AMZ is for Amazon Prime devices )
Please doublecheck that it's the right firmware for you - I'm trying to work out which firmwares are for which regions, but Motorola isn't making it easy...
EDIT - maybe people can confirm, is this accurate (I sourced the info from the Moto G5 Lenovo forums)?
G5 Plus (potter)
NPN25.137-15 (India), updated to NPN25.137.67 (March security patch)
NPN25.137-33 (EU?) - updated to NPNS25.137-33-5 (May security patch)
NPN25.137-35 (US?) - updated to NPNS25.137-35-5 (May security patch)
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Thanks a lot.
That worked perfect. Flashed NPNS25.137-35-5 on my US unlocked version and it got the May security patch.
suhridkhan said:
Thanks a lot.
That worked perfect. Flashed NPNS25.137-35-5 on my US unlocked version and it got the May security patch.
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Hi!!! Hey could you please help me with something? Can you tell me which version of bootloader you have right now?
To know that, you have to restart the phone into bootloader mode, and you have to tell me the number after BL: line
You'll see something like:
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Secure)
BL: C1.07 (sha-9d7f987, 2017-04-01 13:44:7) <---- THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW!!! Please!
Or could you take a picture of this screen?
MarckozZ said:
Hi!!! Hey could you please help me with something? Can you tell me which version of bootloader you have right now?
To know that, you have to restart the phone into bootloader mode, and you have to tell me the number after BL: line
You'll see something like:
AP Fastboot Flash Mode (Secure)
BL: C1.07 (sha-9d7f987, 2017-04-01 13:44:7) <---- THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW!!! Please!
Or could you take a picture of this screen?
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I got this.
BL: C0.8A(*) (sha-c90d6a9-dirty, 2017-04-24 13:31:32)
Just curious, what is the use of this information?
suhridkhan said:
I got this.
BL: C0.8A(*) (sha-c90d6a9-dirty, 2017-04-24 13:31:32)
Just curious, what is the use of this information?
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I totally hardbricked my potter. To revive it, I had to blankflash some files from other Moto phone. Now I have the bootloader from Moto Z Play (which has the version number I gave you as an example).
I asked you the bootloader version to make sure I can flash the new 135.5-5 bootloader and partition table to return my phone back to normal! But since I have software parts from Moto Z Play, I'm afraid it wont accept potter bootloader back again. So, I'll test this later!
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EDIT - maybe people can confirm, is this accurate (I sourced the info from the Moto G5 Lenovo forums)?
G5 Plus (potter)
NPN25.137-15 (India), updated to NPN25.137.67 (March security patch)
NPN25.137-33 (EU?) - updated to NPNS25.137-33-5 (May security patch)
NPN25.137-35 (US?) - updated to NPNS25.137-35-5 (May security patch)
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Great question. Mine is the US version with -33, so it must not be an EU firmware. I asked the same question a few weeks back and no one can confirm either way. I do wish we had some confirmation so someone doesn't flash the wrong version. Maybe if everyone responded with version info (screenshot?) and location?
long2ski said:
Great question. Mine is the US version with -33, so it must not be an EU firmware. I asked the same question a few weeks back and no one can confirm either way. I do wish we had some confirmation so someone doesn't flash the wrong version. Maybe if everyone responded with version info (screenshot?) and location?
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Yeah, Moto G5 Plus firmwares seem to be confusing, and I agree, we don't need/want more bricks!
From what I've been reading on the Lenovo forums, as the users there are more likely to have stayed on the firmware originally issued:
1)Looks like 137-33 and 137-35 were deployed in the US (though 137-33 seems to be more widely reported in the EU).
2)137-35 seems to be an emergency patch to update 137-33 for devices on the Verizon network (to fix the 911 call bug if you were running VoLTE on Verizon) and was released on retus devices: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...5-OTA-update-just-received-in-US/td-p/3730072 I had a look at the updater script for that patch (from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/update-to-fix-volte-911-bug-t3594630 ) which appears to confirm it too:
Code:
ui_print("Source: motorola/potter/potter:7.0/NPN25.137-33/35:user/release-keys");
ui_print("Target: motorola/potter/potter:7.0/NPN25.137-35/37:user/release-keys");
3)Seems that devices running on other networks are on the 137-33 firmware (e.g. AT&T, retus: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ce-G5-plus-stuck-on-NPN25-137-33/td-p/3738547)
4) Seems that there's 2 update paths to the May security patch:
From 137-33 > 137-35 > NPNS25.137-35-5 (this May update seems to be also the wider reported version too for US devices, probably this is the path if you are on the Verizon network)
From 137-33 > NPNS25.137-33-5
I don't know if there's any major differences between the 2 builds besides the VoLTE 911 fix, or if you were on the 137-33-5 build whether you could switch to the Verizon network and be able to make emergency calls on VoLTE (I honestly would hope that fix was rolled into both May patches though...) I'm also not sure what factors decide which update you get, besides possibly being on the Verizon network at some point?
I honestly hope at a later date, Motorola unifies the firmware (like they've done with the G4 Plus), so you can just flash one version rather than multiple different types.
Again, if someone has more information (as I don't have a G5 Plus), feel free to add/correct what I've written!
I have a US version that was shipped with NPN25.137-35 and I'm on the AT&T network.
echo92 said:
If you're after the NPNS25.137-35-5 firmware, have a look here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 (Just ensure you download the firmware that doesn't have AMZ in its name for retail devices, AMZ is for Amazon Prime devices )
Please doublecheck that it's the right firmware for you - I'm trying to work out which firmwares are for which regions, but Motorola isn't making it easy...
EDIT - maybe people can confirm, is this accurate (I sourced the info from the Moto G5 Lenovo forums)?
G5 Plus (potter)
NPN25.137-15 (India), updated to NPN25.137.67 (March security patch)
NPN25.137-33 (EU?) - updated to NPNS25.137-33-5 (May security patch)
NPN25.137-35 (US?) - updated to NPNS25.137-35-5 (May security patch)
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That last one for indian version?and it's latest .67?
dayask said:
That last one for indian version?and it's latest .67?
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If you mean the NPN25.137-35 firmware, I don't think it was released in India (unless your device came with it?). As far as I can tell, looks like 137-67 appears to be the latest build currently for India.
echo92 said:
If you mean the NPN25.137-35 firmware, I don't think it was released in India (unless your device came with it?). As far as I can tell, looks like 137-67 appears to be the latest build currently for India.
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So which one you recommend?
Hello XDA - Am new here, but thought i'd share my info - I have build number NPNS25.137-33-5 (7.0 Nougat) with 1. May (just upgraded from jan/feb if memory serve) as latest security patch. I am from Europe, more specific based in the Benelux area (NL/BE/GE) - If i can provide any more info on the matter, please let me know!
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So which one you recommend?
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I'd suggest staying on NPN25.137-67 if you're on an Indian device, else you may not receive OTA updates. Furthermore, if you swap to 137-35 you may run the risk of bricking your device in future.
So I went ahead and took a chance and flashed the *35 build on top of *33 in rsd lite. It works. Almost immediately I got the OTA of the *35-5 update. I think @echo92 is right and it is more geared towards Verizon. It took me a little to get AT&T to work on LTE here in the US but it all seems fine now.
I had -35 flashed on EU device and no updates for me.
wiceqq said:
I had -35 flashed on EU device and no updates for me.
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Ah, then you may be on the wrong build for the EU region (I've only seen reports of 137-33 for the EU), and thus the reteu software channel might not have an update for you. I see from your previous post you flashed the 137-35 update onto your device?
I honestly don't know if you can safely revert to NPN25.137-33, but here's a stock NPN25.137-33 ROM to flash via fastboot (as always, back up your data and keep it off your device, as this fastboot ROM will likely wipe your device in the flash): https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I also do not know what will happen if you try to flash the NPNS25.137-35-5 update onto a reteu device (it might work, but could result in you being off the update path still).
Good luck either way.
echo92 said:
Ah, then you may be on the wrong build for the EU region (I've only seen reports of 137-33 for the EU), and thus the reteu software channel might not have an update for you. I see from your previous post you flashed the 137-35 update onto your device?
I honestly don't know if you can safely revert to NPN25.137-33, but here's a stock NPN25.137-33 ROM to flash via fastboot (as always, back up your data and keep it off your device, as this fastboot ROM will likely wipe your device in the flash): https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I also do not know what will happen if you try to flash the NPNS25.137-35-5 update onto a reteu device (it might work, but could result in you being off the update path still).
Good luck either way.
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Well right now I'm on a custom rom. When I'll decide to revert to stock I'll probably fastboot flash -33 build and see how it goes. Cheers.
echo92 said:
Yeah, Moto G5 Plus firmwares seem to be confusing, and I agree, we don't need/want more bricks!
From what I've been reading on the Lenovo forums, as the users there are more likely to have stayed on the firmware originally issued:
1)Looks like 137-33 and 137-35 were deployed in the US (though 137-33 seems to be more widely reported in the EU).
2)137-35 seems to be an emergency patch to update 137-33 for devices on the Verizon network (to fix the 911 call bug if you were running VoLTE on Verizon) and was released on retus devices: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...5-OTA-update-just-received-in-US/td-p/3730072 I had a look at the updater script for that patch (from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/update-to-fix-volte-911-bug-t3594630 ) which appears to confirm it too:
Code:
ui_print("Source: motorola/potter/potter:7.0/NPN25.137-33/35:user/release-keys");
ui_print("Target: motorola/potter/potter:7.0/NPN25.137-35/37:user/release-keys");
3)Seems that devices running on other networks are on the 137-33 firmware (e.g. AT&T, retus: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ce-G5-plus-stuck-on-NPN25-137-33/td-p/3738547)
4) Seems that there's 2 update paths to the May security patch:
From 137-33 > 137-35 > NPNS25.137-35-5 (this May update seems to be also the wider reported version too for US devices, probably this is the path if you are on the Verizon network)
From 137-33 > NPNS25.137-33-5
I don't know if there's any major differences between the 2 builds besides the VoLTE 911 fix, or if you were on the 137-33-5 build whether you could switch to the Verizon network and be able to make emergency calls on VoLTE (I honestly would hope that fix was rolled into both May patches though...) I'm also not sure what factors decide which update you get, besides possibly being on the Verizon network at some point?
I honestly hope at a later date, Motorola unifies the firmware (like they've done with the G4 Plus), so you can just flash one version rather than multiple different types.
Again, if someone has more information (as I don't have a G5 Plus), feel free to add/correct what I've written!
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i also am in the U.S. on straight talk with ATT but i have NPN25.137-33 on mine and i got it in july bought it off amazon without ads 64gb version for $299 and its asking me to update to the NPNS25.137-35-5 i believe i soft bricked mine when i updated it now it goes straight to twrp recovery when booting up i used a back up copy i had the phone works fine but still goes to recovery when i shut it down how do i fix this any help will be greatly appreciated.
shaker3000 said:
Yeah, Moto G5 Plus firmwares seem to be confusing, and I agree, we don't need/want more bricks!
From what I've been reading on the Lenovo forums, as the users there are more likely to have stayed on the firmware originally issued:
1)Looks like 137-33 and 137-35 were deployed in the US (though 137-33 seems to be more widely reported in the EU).
2)137-35 seems to be an emergency patch to update 137-33 for devices on the Verizon network (to fix the 911 call bug if you were running VoLTE on Verizon) and was released on retus devices: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...5-OTA-update-just-received-in-US/td-p/3730072 I had a look at the updater script for that patch (from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/update-to-fix-volte-911-bug-t3594630 ) which appears to confirm it too:
i also am in the U.S. on straight talk with ATT but i have NPN25.137-33 on mine and i got it in july bought it off amazon without ads 64gb version for $299 and its asking me to update to the NPNS25.137-35-5 i believe i soft bricked mine when i updated it now it goes straight to twrp recovery when booting up i used a back up copy i had the phone works fine but still goes to recovery when i shut it down how do i fix this any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Newest firmware?

I'm seeing NPJS25.93-14-8 firmware floating around. I'm using g4 Plus xt1644 (us) NPJ25.93-14.5, am I on the newest or is 14-8 the newest? Or does it even apply to me? Thanks
ice711 said:
I'm seeing NPJS25.93-14-8 firmware floating around. I'm using g4 Plus xt1644 (us) NPJ25.93-14.5, am I on the newest or is 14-8 the newest? Or does it even apply to me? Thanks
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NPJS25.93-14-8 and NPJS25.93-14-5 are IMO most likely the same. 14-8 is for unlocked retail phones, 14-5 for Amazon phones.
thorin0815 said:
NPJS25.93-14-8 and NPJS25.93-14-5 are IMO most likely the same. 14-8 is for unlocked retail phones, 14-5 for Amazon phones.
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Thanks for the reply!!
NPJ25.93-14.5, as far as I know, is also the latest update for US devices ( like yours, on retus software channel). As mentioned above, there's also a separate version (same build) for Amazon devices.
The NPJ25.93-14.5 has the same bootloader as the retail June update (NPJS25.93-14-8), though it looks like the baseband might have some emergency calling patches
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/amazon-prime-moto-g4-update-t3665900
If you need the fastboot ROM for NPJ25.93-14.5, retail is https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298984458
Amazon is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634798183

[XT1642] no OTA after downgrade from N soak test

Hey guys,
I've been on nougat soak test since it's release back in 2016 and decided to downgrade to Marshmallow today. I am now on MPJ24.139-48 (6.0.1) and when I search for updates my device tells me that it's already up to date.
Is it normal? How can I get the lastest official firmware?
Sorry if my english isn't the best, it isn't my native language.
Thanks in advance.
Hmm, that build should be updating to MPJ24.139-63/64 and then updating to Nougat.
However, as you've downgraded, it's not necessarily a good idea to use OTA updates. To be safe, you could look into flashing the NPJS25.93-14-13 v7.0 Nougat stock Dec 2017 stock firmware here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
What software channel is your device? This firmware has been deployed to Indian, Brazil, EU and UK devices as far as I've seen, and if you're in those territories you should expect to receive OTA updates. Whilst you may be okay with flashing this firmware on other countries' device variants, you may not receive OTA updates.
On a retGB (UK) XT1642 device, this NPJS25.93-14-13 firmware is running well though.
echo92 said:
Hmm, that build should be updating to MPJ24.139-63/64 and then updating to Nougat.
However, as you've downgraded, it's not necessarily a good idea to use OTA updates. To be safe, you could look into flashing the NPJS25.93-14-13 v7.0 Nougat stock Dec 2017 stock firmware here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
What software channel is your device? This firmware has been deployed to Indian, Brazil, EU and UK devices as far as I've seen, and if you're in those territories you should expect to receive OTA updates. Whilst you may be okay with flashing this firmware on other countries' device variants, you may not receive OTA updates.
On a retGB (UK) XT1642 device, this NPJS25.93-14-13 firmware is running well though.
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Hi and thank you for your answer. I am from France, I don't really mind not having OTA's if I can flash updates. It is juste that I have been away from xda for more than a year so I'm a bit lost with all the firmwares around. OTA just feels easier.
Will try this firmware tho.

[HELP] Downgrade

I m on stock rom unrooted with locked bootloader with built no : NPNS25.137-93-10 (April patch).
So my question is how to switch to NPNS25.137-92-14 (JUNE patch), how to do it ?plz help
Why do you want to change to India/Brazil software, safer to just wait for the US, Europe, Retpac version.
Damn, just noticed retin, just fastboot 92.14.
Then you can update to official oreo
Stable version is releasing soon, wait for sometime.
Smeagal192 said:
Why do you want to chang
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Isn't it cause to brick or imei 0, if i flash the 92-14 built over my current 93-14.
Is it safe ?
~Unify~ said:
Isn't it cause to brick or imei 0, if i flash the 92-14 built over my current 93-14.
Is it safe ?
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92-14 is firmware for India and Brazil, 93-14 is for Europe,US and Asia Pacific.
It's possible to flash one over the other but you'll change your software channel and may not receive future OTA.
Better to wait for the 8.1 firmware for your region.
Losing IMEI,volte or 4g most likely only happens when you flash a 64 bit custom ROM.
To be on the safe side make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist with latest TWRP 3.2.3.1
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Wolfcity said:
92-14 is firmware for India and Brazil, 93-14 is for Europe,US and Asia Pacific.
It's possible to flash one over the other but you'll change your software channel and may not receive future OTA.
Better to wait for the 8.1 firmware for your region.
Losing IMEI,volte or 4g most likely only happens when you flash a 64 bit custom ROM.
To be on the safe side make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist with latest TWRP 3.2.3.1
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Look at the picture, software channel retin with 193-10 installed.
So should be safe to overwrite with latest indian stock release ?
Smeagal192 said:
Look at the picture, software channel retin with 193-10 installed.
So should be safe to overwrite with latest indian stock release ?
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The name of the software channel doesn't change if you flash another firmware version so it's safe from that point of view.
The only thing that's changing is the fact that you don't receive any OTA updates anymore.
The screenshot of the op only shows that he once flashed a firmware that was meant to be used on a US or european device.
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Wolfcity said:
The name of the software
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Yes im from india, once in past i unlock bootloader n rooted my phone, but when i tried to lock my bootloader i couldn't, so i tried many fastboot rom and finally flashed and successfully boot up with this us rom. Since that time im using this rom and not get any ota also.
I lost my IMEI after flashing 92-14....HELP HELP

Choosing the right stock firmware

I am currently on a 7.1.2 custom rom and want to flash stock Oreo but when I look at the official download list, there seems to be dozens of different variants for AMZ, RETAIL, RETEU etc and I have no idea where to start.
I have an XT1685 (with the NFC chip) and live in Australia, but will be travelling around Russia and Europe for the next 12 months - Can anyone recommend which firmware I should use?
durzo said:
I am currently on a 7.1.2 custom rom and want to flash stock Oreo but when I look at the official download list, there seems to be dozens of different variants for AMZ, RETAIL, RETEU etc and I have no idea where to start.
I have an XT1685 (with the NFC chip) and live in Australia, but will be travelling around Russia and Europe for the next 12 months - Can anyone recommend which firmware I should use?
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You should use the one you were coming from.
Regarding Oreo stock there are basically just two different firmwares, the ones ending on 85-13-x are for almost all regions, ending on 85-17-x are for the US.
So in your case I would think the latest firmware for non US should be the correct choice, that's 85-13-5:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/official-oreo-coming-soon-t3779098/post78844908
This will take you up to the December security patch.
More signed firmwares can be found here:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
Wolfcity said:
You should use the one you were coming from.
Regarding Oreo stock there are basically just two different firmwares, the ones ending on 85-13-x are for almost all regions, ending on 85-17-x are for the US.
So in your case I would think the latest firmware for non US should be the correct choice, that's 85-13-5:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/official-oreo-coming-soon-t3779098/post78844908
This will take you up to the December security patch.
More signed firmwares can be found here:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
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Can i use that December firmware on XT1686?
Stealtherthreat said:
Can i use that December firmware on XT1686?
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If you´re not in the US and running 85-17-x firmware: Yes you can.

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