[HELP] Downgrade - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

I m on stock rom unrooted with locked bootloader with built no : NPNS25.137-93-10 (April patch).
So my question is how to switch to NPNS25.137-92-14 (JUNE patch), how to do it ?plz help

Why do you want to change to India/Brazil software, safer to just wait for the US, Europe, Retpac version.
Damn, just noticed retin, just fastboot 92.14.
Then you can update to official oreo

Stable version is releasing soon, wait for sometime.

Smeagal192 said:
Why do you want to chang
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Isn't it cause to brick or imei 0, if i flash the 92-14 built over my current 93-14.
Is it safe ?

~Unify~ said:
Isn't it cause to brick or imei 0, if i flash the 92-14 built over my current 93-14.
Is it safe ?
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92-14 is firmware for India and Brazil, 93-14 is for Europe,US and Asia Pacific.
It's possible to flash one over the other but you'll change your software channel and may not receive future OTA.
Better to wait for the 8.1 firmware for your region.
Losing IMEI,volte or 4g most likely only happens when you flash a 64 bit custom ROM.
To be on the safe side make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist with latest TWRP 3.2.3.1
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Wolfcity said:
92-14 is firmware for India and Brazil, 93-14 is for Europe,US and Asia Pacific.
It's possible to flash one over the other but you'll change your software channel and may not receive future OTA.
Better to wait for the 8.1 firmware for your region.
Losing IMEI,volte or 4g most likely only happens when you flash a 64 bit custom ROM.
To be on the safe side make a full nandroid backup incl. EFS and persist with latest TWRP 3.2.3.1
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Look at the picture, software channel retin with 193-10 installed.
So should be safe to overwrite with latest indian stock release ?

Smeagal192 said:
Look at the picture, software channel retin with 193-10 installed.
So should be safe to overwrite with latest indian stock release ?
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The name of the software channel doesn't change if you flash another firmware version so it's safe from that point of view.
The only thing that's changing is the fact that you don't receive any OTA updates anymore.
The screenshot of the op only shows that he once flashed a firmware that was meant to be used on a US or european device.
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Wolfcity said:
The name of the software
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Yes im from india, once in past i unlock bootloader n rooted my phone, but when i tried to lock my bootloader i couldn't, so i tried many fastboot rom and finally flashed and successfully boot up with this us rom. Since that time im using this rom and not get any ota also.

I lost my IMEI after flashing 92-14....HELP HELP

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Xt1644 us firmware

Can some provide firmware or links to US XT1644 FIRMWARE? Thanks
Try here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=72578
DJTeeJay said:
Try here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=72578
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Any idea for what device the image ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz on https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=s...les&flid=72578 is meant ?
(AMZ = ?)
I am currently running ATHENE_MPJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip from this source, on my XT1642 (channel reteu)
Maybe Amazon?
I appreciate everybody's help. However I can't tell if the the correct firmware listed is for US XT1644 FIRMWARE. I see I have the correct build. I have as of yet not unlocked my device. However I want to load my own backup all my images using dd command except data. Upload and post links for the United States build, as I just don't see nothing. Any help to the stock build United States build XT1644 would be great? Thanks
Also when unlocking the my device is there any issues I will run into, off the top of your heads?
Search here:
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100
There are three images with xt1644 RETUS.
Bender1987 said:
Search here:
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100
There are three images with xt1644 RETUS.
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Thanks guy. Looks like someone took down the files. Not sure why, any other link to XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-48_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1644_CFC.xml.zip
I've start downloading the file this morning without any problems. The FileFactory folder link is not down neither the files in it.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmwar...subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1644_CFC.xml.zip
9 is the latest firmware for the US model. im not sure what the very bottom one "harpia" is for?
I have bought mine unlocked and it is "retus". It has the MPJ 24.139-48 fw. Radio is M8952_70009.08.03.45R ATHENE_RETUSA_CUST.
If I check the update it says it's up-to-date.
pv979 said:
Any idea for what device the image ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz on https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=s...les&flid=72578 is meant ?
(AMZ = ?)
I am currently running ATHENE_MPJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip from this source, on my XT1642 (channel reteu)
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ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz is for the Indian variants, not the US nor European variants.
fix-this! said:
9 is the latest firmware for the US model. im not sure what the very bottom one "harpia" is for?
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Harpia is the codename for the Moto G4 Play. Athene is the G4/G4+.
Thanks everybody for helping out. Please continue to write more info about the US XT1644 as there is not alot in on this model.
SoNic67 said:
I have bought mine unlocked and it is "retus". It has the MPJ 24.139-48 fw. Radio is M8952_70009.08.03.45R ATHENE_RETUSA_CUST.
If I check the update it says it's up-to-date.
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yup but .9 is the latest. it has fixes for battery and the phone. i flashed it via fastboot on my XT6144 and it works great.
Well, the -49 (not 9) it's not to be found on Moto US website or OTA, it just appeared here like magic and the change log (supposedly) here. So I am not sure about it's provenience and that the fixes are not a placebo.
Anyway, I understand the "itch" to install it. Because I am so tempted myself
LE: Well, I did it. Flashed the MJP24.139-49 on my XT1644, I am restoring the apps now from backup.
Are these TWRP flashable or fastboot?
Yes, fastboot is avail after you unlock the bootloader on Motorola site (loosing the warranty).
I have booted into TWRP to root (SU systemless method), but didn't actually flash it (because I don't plan to switch to CM at this point).
SoNic67 said:
Yes, fastboot is avail after you unlock the bootloader on Motorola site (loosing the warranty).
I have booted into TWRP to root (SU systemless method), but didn't actually flash it (because I don't plan to switch to CM at this point).
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I'm already on CM but there's the bug preventing me from receiving calls unless I turn off LTE. I'd prefer to not lose root and don't have access to a PC, so if I can wipe and flash this in TWRP, that would be perfect.
No, you can't, you need the standard recovery to get back to stock. Then you can root as I said.
As for CM13, I had used it (beta and after that nightlies) on one of my previous devices (Asus, based on Snapdragon 615, 64 bit, 3GB RAM)... but it was too unstable to use as a daily phone. Always something to be "fixed" and very often something else was breaking. Disappointed...
Security Patch Level
Can someone who has flashed the -49 build confirm what the security patch level is? Just wondering if it's the same update India and Europe received OTA.

HELP, Can I downgrade to Stock Marshmallow and Upgrade to Nougat?

Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
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If you wish to simply re-lock your bootloader, the easiest thing is to flash this fastboot stock ROM (which is Nougat) and use the locking script as directed in the first post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 Of course, this may wipe your data - so back up, and the relocking may or may not work, in which case you may have to wait for a more up to date fastboot stock ROM to become available.
If you were to downgrade to Marshmallow, you cannot downgrade your bootloader and GPT partitions, at best, your existing bootloader would try to prevent you from downgrading those partitions. At worst, you'll brick your device again if you were to flash those - though we've got possible ways of fixing that, it's not a route I'd want to go down. Flashing the rest of Marshmallow is no problem, however, ensure you have the correct MM firmware for your device and territory.
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
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Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
echo92 said:
Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
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THANK YOU IT WORKED AND THE WARNING DISAPPEARED. I am on Nougat, locked and its working like a charm
I WOULD KISS YOUR BUTT IF ITS HAVE TO BE

NPNS version to NPN version

I am having xt1686 indian variant .. i unlocked the bootloader and installed the custom roms.. now while going back to stock i mistakenly installed NPNS (US VARIANT, I suppose) ..
I am unable to install the NPN version now .. i guess the bootloader is not matching ..
Right now i am having a bootloader - C0.8(*) in NPNS ...
PLEAAE SUGGEST HOW TO MOVE TO INDIAN VERSION OF NPN... THNKS..
S does not mean US or any other variant specific build... there are literally different builds for different variants. My US Retail version is NPN25.173-83
In previous Moto models, the S meant it had been upgraded from an OTA, but in looking in my current device it has received several OTAs and does not have the S, so either that has been depreciated or our original assumptions in earlier models was incorrect.
Either way, the fact the S is there does not mean US (or any other country), just a slightly different build... I don't have an answer of why you can't go back though.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/npns-nps-firmware-t3677576
Fastboot NPN25.137-15 build (may be found as brasil-latam)
Lock bootloader (necessary to receive ota) google it
Reboot device
Update phone via ota received in system
Done.
Use this link to download 137-15 build
http://www.stechguide.com/download-moto-g5-plus-stock-firmware/
abhi.a3s said:
Fastboot NPN25.137-15 build (may be found as brasil-latam)
Lock bootloader (necessary to receive ota) google it
Reboot device
Update phone via ota received in system
Done.
Use this link to download 137-15 build
http://www.stechguide.com/download-moto-g5-plus-stock-firmware/
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Generally, OTA updates can be received with a locked or unlocked bootloader. Only requirement is to have a stock and unmodified system.
However, I personally would caution against downgrading from NPNS firmware to NPN, as you run a risk of hard bricking if you take OTA updates after you've downgraded. As acejavelin has mentioned, the NPNS firmware should reflect OTA/security updates (but seems that Motorola's naming convention is a bit inconsistent), which means your bootloader is likely updated by the firmware. If you've flashed a NPNS firmware, you'd likely be at least on the may security patch. The Indian firmware you'd need is the January patch (NPN25.137-15, as I don't think the NPN25.137-67 or 67-5 firmwares have been leaked). Thus, downgrading to an earlier firmware might give you problems if you then use OTA updates to update. We've already seen a similar situation in the Moto G5 plus unbrick thread.
Instead of reflashing the Indian stock ROM and risking a hard brick, you may wish to look into using the TWRP flashable images which only touch the system.
echo92 said:
Generally, OTA updates can be received with a locked or unlocked bootloader. Only requirement is to have a stock and unmodified system.
However, I personally would caution against downgrading from NPNS firmware to NPN, as you run a risk of hard bricking if you take OTA updates after you've downgraded. As acejavelin has mentioned, the NPNS firmware should reflect OTA/security updates (but seems that Motorola's naming convention is a bit inconsistent), which means your bootloader is likely updated by the firmware. Thus, downgrading to an earlier firmware might give you problems if you then use OTA updates to update. We've already seen a similar situation in the Moto G5 plus unbrick thread.
Instead of reflashing the Indian stock ROM and risking a hard brick, you may wish to look into using the TWRP flashable images which only touch the system.
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I had same issue.
I unlocked my bootloader when I was on NPN25-137-67, installed custom roms as well. My bootloader got corrupted.
I tried flashing the twrp stock zip but it didn't work.
I know the risks of downgrading and it can hardbrick the device. But since I already downgraded and my fone is still alive I thought it could help him as well. So it's tested. And it did not mess up anything.
About locked/unlocked bootloader, you might be right that ota updates can be received. But since I locked my bootloader and then did the update process. twice. it worked.
Well ofcourse there are lots of ifs so I would also suggest downgrading firmware as a last resort.
P. S. I have xt1686 Indian variant.
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Twrp images
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Build 67-5
https://rsdsecure-cloud.motorola.co...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Credit to rickk
Use vpn if unable to download
abhi.a3s said:
I had same issue.
I unlocked my bootloader when I was on NPN25-137-67, installed custom roms as well. My bootloader got corrupted.
I tried flashing the twrp stock zip but it didn't work.
I know the risks of downgrading and it can hardbrick the device. But since I already downgraded and my fone is still alive I thought it could help him as well. So it's tested. And it did not mess up anything.
About locked/unlocked bootloader, you might be right that ota updates can be received. But since I locked my bootloader and then did the update process. twice. it worked.
Well ofcourse there are lots of ifs so I would also suggest downgrading firmware as a last resort.
P. S. I have xt1686 Indian variant.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Okay, when you hard bricked and then used the blankflash, then by flashing the NPN25.137-15 update, you may not have run into any issues as that was the update prior to NPN25.137-67. Thus, you may have been okay as the OTA update simply patched the same files as before. You may also have been able to downgrade without issue as the NPN25.137-67 firmware is only up to the March 2017 patch level.
The opening poster has the different problem of having NPNS25.137 firmware, which at the moment is either NPNS25.137-33-5/NPNS25.137-33-11 or NPNS25.137-35-5 (EU or US firmware) with the May 2017/August 2017 security patch. Downgrading from the May 2017 patch or later and then accepting OTA updates appears to cause a hard brick, especially if you cross downgrade from the NPNS firmware to the Indian firmware: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/moto-g5-plus-hard-bricked-recognized-t3636457
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Okay, when you hard bricked and then used the blankflash, then by flashing the NPN25.137-15 update, you may not have run into any issues as that was the update prior to NPN25.137-67. Thus, you may have been okay as the OTA update simply patched the same files as before. You may also have been able to downgrade without issue as the NPN25.137-67 firmware is only up to the March 2017 patch level.
The opening poster has the different problem of having NPNS25.137 firmware, which at the moment is either NPNS25.137-33-5/NPNS25.137-33-11 or NPNS25.137-35-5 (EU or US firmware) with the May 2017/August 2017 security patch. Downgrading from the May 2017 patch or later and then accepting OTA updates appears to cause a hard brick, especially if you cross downgrade from the NPNS firmware to the Indian firmware: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/moto-g5-plus-hard-bricked-recognized-t3636457
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Well ofcourse there is a big potential of hard bricking the device by the method. That's why I said last resort.
So what do you suggest?
TWRP image? And if it doesn't work, he should probably wait up for next NPN build? @toyesh.patra you should consider keeping a custom rom if possible.
Btw
The ota update which I received was August patch. After which I unlocked my bootloader. It was either NPN25.137-67 or NPN25.137-67-5. I'M not sure about version. But it was definitely August patch.
Or maybe I was lucky one time.
Won't do it another time.
anuraag.neo said:
Build 67-5
https://rsdsecure-cloud.motorola.co...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
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For 1686? Full fastboot firmware leaked?
yea, right now i m using the 67-5 build using twrp..
although i wanted to use the 67-5 with locked bootloader.. nevermind ..
psychopac said:
For 1686? Full fastboot firmware leaked?
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Yes
So if I wanted to go full stock after flashing any custom ROM, all I need to do is flash the 67-5 firmware and I'll be good to go, right?
PS: I'm already on stock and updated to 67-5
psychopac said:
So if I wanted to go full stock after flashing any custom ROM, all I need to do is flash the 67-5 firmware and I'll be good to go, right?
PS: I'm already on stock and updated to 67-5
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Yes
I can't download it. How Can I download? please upload googel Thanks bro
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I can't download it. How Can I download? please upload googel Thanks bro
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/stock-firmware-npn25-137-67-5-fastboot-t3694738

What firmware for XT1681

Hey there !
I have a Moto G5 Plus International edition (XT1681) with firmware NPNS25.137-92-4 (latest January Patch).
I want to know what firmware to download from here (https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/) for factory flash not to get bricked like an idiot.
I don't know which one is good
Thanks
The last 2 ROMs are for your device, if you have a custom recovery I recommend to install the flashable version from this link .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Here are the same version of your device NPNS25.137-92-4 (20180101 security patch)
Oh nice !
Is it OK to OTA update on these flashable .zip ? As I have also modified the kernel which is not stock anymore :/
CobraBoyFR said:
Oh nice !
Is it OK to OTA update on these flashable .zip ? As I have also modified the kernel which is not stock anymore :/
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i didnt try to flash over a fastboot rom, maybe you cant do that.
Thanks
But basically, what I need is flashing full stock firmware (with recovery and kernel), no matter if it's january update or not. Just the factory images I had when I bought the phone. And I don't know what version is OK for my phone (XT1681 with NPNS25.137-92-4 now) 'cause I don't want to hard brick it when OTA updating (to Oreo for example)
From your link the last 2 ROMs are the same so you can use both.
You are on stock right? Do you planning on flashing custom ROMs? If you flash Oreo ROMs and you want to downgrade flashing fastboot rom maybe you lost volte.
RokCruz said:
From your link the last 2 ROMs are the same so you can use both.
You are on stock right? Do you planning on flashing custom ROMs? If you flash Oreo ROMs and you want to downgrade flashing fastboot rom maybe you lost volte.
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Right now I'm on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, with TWRP recovery + Magisk root + ElementalX kernel
I'm not planning to flash any custom ROM for the moment. When the official Oreo update comes out, I want to update. But I know it won't go well if I OTA update it with my current configuration. That's why I want to be able to flash stock with fastboot (rough clean install), no matter what version I get : All i want is to be able to update to Oreo when it's out. Problem is, I don't know which image I need to download from here : https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
I know it's there, but don't know exactly the good version.
This is for our device xt1681
https://firmware.center/firmware/Mo...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
I'm on flashable stock with ex kernel and magisk, when the Oreo ota start rolling out I'll wait for flashable rom so I'll can upgrade (dirty flash) so I don't loose anything.
RokCruz said:
This is for our device xt1681
https://firmware.center/firmware/Mo...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
I'm on flashable stock with ex kernel and magisk, when the Oreo ota start rolling out I'll wait for flashable rom so I'll can upgrade (dirty flash) so I don't loose anything.
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If your device was flashed with stock firmware newer than NPN25.137-15, I would strongly advise against flashing the NPN25.137-15 stock firmware.
The reason is that downgrading stock firmware downgrades your system, but not usually your bootloader (your bootloader will likely report a security downgrade/pre-flash validation error). As such, you'll have a newer bootloader but older system (in terms of patch levels). For example, you have the NPNS25.137-92-4 stock firmware (before flashing TWRP), so your bootloader is the Jan 2018 patch level. You flash this NPN25.137-15 firmware - you have a Jan 2017 system, but still a Jan 2018 bootloader.
The downgrade generally goes okay. However, taking OTA updates with this mismatch in bootloader and system is generally what results in hard bricks; the OTA update checks for your system patch level - in the above example, you'll probably get the OTA update to upgrade from NPN25.137-15... However, your bootloader is not the NPN25.137-15 patch level bootloader, as such your bootloader may get overwritten by the OTA and gets corrupted in the process, leading to hard bricks. This scenario isn't just applicable for the NPN25.137-15 update, this potentially applies if you flash a stock firmware older than what was on your device and then attempt to use OTA updates (unless you could flash the stock firmware directly preceding the firmware you had).
Easiest way is to re-flash the same stock ROM build you had before flashing TWRP. I don't see any NPNS25.137-92-4 stock ROMs leaked yet from the Motorola Firmware Team page https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 or firmware.mirror but hopefully they'll be along soon.
If you're on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, in theory you could flash NPN25.137-92 (the build directly before the NPNS25.137-92-4 Jan 2018 security update), so the next OTA update would update your device to NPNS25.137-92-4 - the OTA would be simply patching your device to the same build it's currently on and in theory that should work. NPN25.137-92 is one of the firmwares currently available so may be worth thinking about. Best thing though is to flash the NPNS25.137-92-4 firmware or newer firmware that is the correct build for XT1681 devices.
echo92 said:
If your device was flashed with stock firmware newer than NPN25.137-15, I would strongly advise against flashing the NPN25.137-15 stock firmware.
The reason is that downgrading stock firmware downgrades your system, but not usually your bootloader (your bootloader will likely report a security downgrade/pre-flash validation error). As such, you'll have a newer bootloader but older system (in terms of patch levels). For example, you have the NPNS25.137-92-4 stock firmware (before flashing TWRP), so your bootloader is the Jan 2018 patch level. You flash this NPN25.137-15 firmware - you have a Jan 2017 system, but still a Jan 2018 bootloader.
The downgrade generally goes okay. However, taking OTA updates with this mismatch in bootloader and system is generally what results in hard bricks; the OTA update checks for your system patch level - in the above example, you'll probably get the OTA update to upgrade from NPN25.137-15... However, your bootloader is not the NPN25.137-15 patch level bootloader, as such your bootloader may get overwritten by the OTA and gets corrupted in the process, leading to hard bricks. This scenario isn't just applicable for the NPN25.137-15 update, this potentially applies if you flash a stock firmware older than what was on your device and then attempt to use OTA updates (unless you could flash the stock firmware directly preceding the firmware you had).
Easiest way is to re-flash the same stock ROM build you had before flashing TWRP. I don't see any NPNS25.137-92-4 stock ROMs leaked yet from the Motorola Firmware Team page https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 or firmware.mirror but hopefully they'll be along soon.
If you're on stock NPNS25.137-92-4, in theory you could flash NPN25.137-92 (the build directly before the NPNS25.137-92-4 Jan 2018 security update), so the next OTA update would update your device to NPNS25.137-92-4 - the OTA would be simply patching your device to the same build it's currently on and in theory that should work. NPN25.137-92 is one of the firmwares currently available so may be worth thinking about. Best thing though is to flash the NPNS25.137-92-4 firmware or newer firmware that is the correct build for XT1681 devices.
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In few words we only can flash ROMs with the same compilation number or higher to avoid hard brick right?
RokCruz said:
In few words we only can flash ROMs with the same compilation number or higher to avoid hard brick right?
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Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
echo92 said:
Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
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That was roughly what I figured out but damn, those explanations, thanks buddy :highfive:
The January update's bootloader is the same bootloader that the November security patch update has. You can flash the
POTTER_NPN25.137-83_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC files from fastboot (skip gpt.bin) then OTA to 93 (November Patch), then OTA to 93-4 (January Patch)
The OTA will not brick the phone since the bootloader the OTA flashes is the same one it is currently on.
Also, this is what I did to get onto the January Patch so I can confirm my phone works fine and did not brick.
driverdis said:
The January update's bootloader is the same bootloader that the November security patch update has. You can flash the
POTTER_NPN25.137-83_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC files from fastboot (skip gpt.bin) then OTA to 93 (November Patch), then OTA to 93-4 (January Patch)
The OTA will not brick the phone since the bootloader the OTA flashes is the same one it is currently on.
Also, this is what I did to get onto the January Patch so I can confirm my phone works fine and did not brick.
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On xt1681 right?
Thanks for your feedback
echo92 said:
Pretty much, yes (or at least it minimises the chances of a hard brick). If you really want to flash older stock ROMs, please do not use OTA updates at all. Ignore the OTA prompt or freeze the Motorola OTA updater if you downgraded your stock firmware. It's not fun seeing a £150-200 (or your regional equivalent) device hard bricked.
However, with Motorola's habit of releasing different builds to different regions, please ensure you flash the correct build for your device, else the Motorola servers may not issue OTAs if you're on the incorrect series of builds for your software channel. The latest available leaked firmware for your device appears to be NPN25.137-92 (we don't have access to NPNS25.137-92-4 yet).
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yeah i cant apply normal OTA over flashable rom. I was on NPN25.137-92(flashable) i download NPNS25.137-92-4(flashable too) i dirty flashed it and it works perfect without lose my stuff
I ordered XT1681 International version from Amazon.ca. I replaced the recovery with TWRP. I have two questions.
(1) I am prompted to install 137-92-8 via OTA. Where can I find this TWRP flashable ROM for this version ? I am on 137-92-4.
(2) Is there any other compatible stock ROM that I can install on it ? The OTA message is in Spanish. My preference is in English and as long as it supports the dual SIM and the NIC.
Thanks.
jkl555 said:
I ordered XT1681 International version from Amazon.ca. I replaced the recovery with TWRP. I have two questions.
(1) I am prompted to install 137-92-8 via OTA. Where can I find this TWRP flashable ROM for this version ? I am on 137-92-4.
(2) Is there any other compatible stock ROM that I can install on it ? The OTA message is in Spanish. My preference is in English and as long as it supports the dual SIM and the NIC.
Thanks.
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Just to reply to myself for (2). I found the following link
https://www.stockrom.net/2017/05/st...g5-plus-xt1683-xt1681-android-7-0-nougat.html

Problems with Moto G5 Plus

I'm worried that I've permanently messed up my phone. I didn't make a backup of my stock firmware when I first flashed Lineage OS, and then I was having issues with that, so now I'm using the stock one again, but it's not official. I used fastboot to flash it and then flashed twrp and magisk. That should of been sufficient to factory reset it right? It just keeps having little problems that it didn't have before, like internet loading things slowly and bugs and crashing apps. The reason I switched off the Lineage OS rom is because it had little problems like that too. I just don't know what to do anymore.
Relevant Info:
Device: Moto G5 Plus Unlocked US version
Carrier: T-Mobile
lumbo7333 said:
I'm worried that I've permanently messed up my phone. I didn't make a backup of my stock firmware when I first flashed Lineage OS, and then I was having issues with that, so now I'm using the stock one again, but it's not official. I used fastboot to flash it and then flashed twrp and magisk. That should of been sufficient to factory reset it right? It just keeps having little problems that it didn't have before, like internet loading things slowly and bugs and crashing apps. The reason I switched off the Lineage OS rom is because it had little problems like that too. I just don't know what to do anymore.
Relevant Info:
Device: Moto G5 Plus Unlocked US version
Carrier: T-Mobile
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What exactly are your problems? Check the thread of the custom ROM you installed and look for fixes there, maybe you installed an outdated version and your problems have been fixed in the updates. Good luck.
lumbo7333 said:
...now I'm using the stock one again, but it's not official. I used fastboot to flash it and then flashed twrp and magisk.
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What do you mean with "stock but not official"?
Where did you get it from?
There are some sources for official firmwares signed by Motorola here on XDA so what makes you think the one you use isn't official?
If so that could be for sure the reason for problems for I have to say that I haven't seen unofficial stock ROMs except TWRP flashables (you said you flashed using fastboot so it can't be this) or debloated stock ROMs.
Wolfcity said:
What do you mean with "stock but not official"?
Where did you get it from?
There are some sources for official firmwares signed by Motorola here on XDA so what makes you think the one you use isn't official?
If so that could be for sure the reason for problems for I have to say that I haven't seen unofficial stock ROMs except TWRP flashables (you said you flashed using fastboot so it can't be this) or debloated stock ROMs.
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I mean it didn't come officially from Motorola. I got it from this:
getdroidtips.com/moto-g5-plus-stock-firmware-collections-updated (It's not allowing me to post outside links because I'm a new user, so just add www to that)
lumbo7333 said:
I mean it didn't come officially from Motorola. I got it from this:
getdroidtips.com/moto-g5-plus-stock-firmware-collections-updated (It's not allowing me to post outside links because I'm a new user, so just add www to that)
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If you can flash the firmware by fastboot it's most likely an official signed firmware that was leaked. To be on the safe side use the firmware found here on XDA like this source:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
Just make sure to use the same firmware you we're on or a newer one that fits to your region.
I recommend to reflash the latest stock firmware, maybe something went wrong the first time.
And remember to always make a backup before you flash anything that could cause problems.
It the latest stock firmware different from the stock rom I flashed?
You can also try the repair function in Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant app.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/solution/MS126499
Hmm. Now my security updates are failing.
goodjuju said:
You can also try the repair function in Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant app.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/solution/MS126499
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Will doing that use official firmware?
lumbo7333 said:
It the latest stock firmware different from the stock rom I flashed?
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lumbo7333 said:
Will doing that use official firmware?
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Sure. The firmwares from Moto Smart Assistant are the same like the ones I've posted above, I compared the hash files.
Would be interesting to know what firmware you're on at the moment.
I'm on OPSS28.85-17-2
I thought my firmware was unofficial since it was leaked. Also do you why I can't update?
lumbo7333 said:
I'm on OPSS28.85-17-2
I thought my firmware was unofficial since it was leaked. Also do you why I can't update?
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Any firmware you'll find is leaked even the official ones. Motorola doesn't release any firmwares except the ones you can download with Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant.
The link I posted https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
contains official firmwares too. The latest one for the US (85-17-4) can be found there too.
What happens exactly when your OTA fails?
Wolfcity said:
Any firmware you'll find is leaked even the official ones. Motorola doesn't release any firmwares except the ones you can download with Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant.
The link I posted https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
contains official firmwares too. The latest one for the US (85-17-4) can be found there too.
What happens exactly when your OTA fails?
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- I download the update the update
- It reboots and goes into TWRP for some reason
- I have to manually reboot to system from TWRP
- My phone boots to system and says update unsuccessful
(This is a security update by the way.)
lumbo7333 said:
- I download the update the update
- It reboots and goes into TWRP for some reason
- I have to manually reboot to system from TWRP
- My phone boots to system and says update unsuccessful
(This is a security update by the way.)
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You can't take any system updates when you have TWRP installed!
For OTA you have to be on unrooted full stock ROM incl. stock recovery. This is a very important rule.
So you have to ways to handle this:
- Flash clean stock firmware and apply to the OTA afterwards (if you flash the latest firmware 17.4 you don't need the OTA anymore). You will loose your internal storage data or skip the "erase userdata" command.
Firmware from here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
- Take a TWRP flashable build but be aware that you can't take OTA updates at all in the future which is not needed as the firmwares are up to date.
TWRP flashables here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Wolfcity said:
You can't take any system updates when you have TWRP installed!
For OTA you have to be on unrooted full stock ROM incl. stock recovery.
So you have to ways to handle this:
- Flash clean stock firmware and apply to the OTA afterwards (if you flash the latest firmware 17.4 you don't need the OTA anymore). You will loose your internal storage data or skip the "erase userdata" command.
Firmware from here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
- Take a TWRP flashable build but be aware that you can't take OTA updates at all in the future which is not needed as the firmwares are up to date.
TWRP flashables here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
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Will flashing a new build delete my data?

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