Hey guys,
I've been on nougat soak test since it's release back in 2016 and decided to downgrade to Marshmallow today. I am now on MPJ24.139-48 (6.0.1) and when I search for updates my device tells me that it's already up to date.
Is it normal? How can I get the lastest official firmware?
Sorry if my english isn't the best, it isn't my native language.
Thanks in advance.
Hmm, that build should be updating to MPJ24.139-63/64 and then updating to Nougat.
However, as you've downgraded, it's not necessarily a good idea to use OTA updates. To be safe, you could look into flashing the NPJS25.93-14-13 v7.0 Nougat stock Dec 2017 stock firmware here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
What software channel is your device? This firmware has been deployed to Indian, Brazil, EU and UK devices as far as I've seen, and if you're in those territories you should expect to receive OTA updates. Whilst you may be okay with flashing this firmware on other countries' device variants, you may not receive OTA updates.
On a retGB (UK) XT1642 device, this NPJS25.93-14-13 firmware is running well though.
echo92 said:
Hmm, that build should be updating to MPJ24.139-63/64 and then updating to Nougat.
However, as you've downgraded, it's not necessarily a good idea to use OTA updates. To be safe, you could look into flashing the NPJS25.93-14-13 v7.0 Nougat stock Dec 2017 stock firmware here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
What software channel is your device? This firmware has been deployed to Indian, Brazil, EU and UK devices as far as I've seen, and if you're in those territories you should expect to receive OTA updates. Whilst you may be okay with flashing this firmware on other countries' device variants, you may not receive OTA updates.
On a retGB (UK) XT1642 device, this NPJS25.93-14-13 firmware is running well though.
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Hi and thank you for your answer. I am from France, I don't really mind not having OTA's if I can flash updates. It is juste that I have been away from xda for more than a year so I'm a bit lost with all the firmwares around. OTA just feels easier.
Will try this firmware tho.
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Hello Moderators,
My Device Model : XT 1644 64 GB variant
Current Rom: Lineage OS
Bootloader Status: Unlocked
Since the US variant didn't get the nougat update, I decided to unlock my bootloader and switch to a CM based ROM.Though I love it I've been facing a lot of issues in fingerprint sensor and advanced settings
Now I'd like to go back to my stock ROM and I've few doubts
1. If I don't lock my bootloader again after switching to stock ROM will I be still eligible to receive the official updates?
2. This link to stock ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1643-updated-signed-t3460695 says that it's for the Indian version will it work on the US versions?
3. After flashing the stock ROM will it be okay if I follow this thread and update to nougat https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1643-ota-nougat-t3483943?
4.Does the soak test have any bugs?
5.If I'm on the soak test and Once the official nougat is available for my device what should I do?
I have a twrp backup of my stock ROM too
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@rahulsnair @1chrome
Thanks for taking your time to help me out !!! I'd surely love to return the favour someday
Vijay Selvaraju said:
Hello Moderators,
My Device Model : XT 1644 64 GB variant
Current Rom: Lineage OS
Bootloader Status: Unlocked
Since the US variant didn't get the nougat update, I decided to unlock my bootloader and switch to a CM based ROM.Though I love it I've been facing a lot of issues in fingerprint sensor and advanced settings
Now I'd like to go back to my stock ROM and I've few doubts
1. If I don't lock my bootloader again after switching to stock ROM will I be still eligible to receive the official updates?
2. This link to stock ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1643-updated-signed-t3460695 says that it's for the Indian version will it work on the US versions?
3. After flashing the stock ROM will it be okay if I follow this thread and update to nougat https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1643-ota-nougat-t3483943?
4.Does the soak test have any bugs?
5.If I'm on the soak test and Once the official nougat is available for my device what should I do?
@rahulsnair @1chrome
Thanks for taking your time to help me out !!! I'd surely love to return the favour someday
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1) Yes - you should still be eligible for stock OTA updates even with an unlocked bootloader - as far as I understand, the main thing the OTA checks is whether your recovery and kernel/system are stock and unmodified.
2) I didn't see any reports of that XT1643 update working for XT1644 devices - try this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980 Looks like a few reports suggest the .48 firmware works.
3) If I recall, US firmwares don't have the right build versions for that Nougat soak (think US is ending in .48 or .64/65?), so that file may not work. Also, the soak tests available lead to a broken upgrade path - besides the 75.2 soak test, as I understand there are no other soak test updates available to bring you back onto the OTA update, meaning you'd have to flash another Nougat firmware.
If you still desire Nougat, perhaps try flashing the 93-11 (v7.0, Nov 2016 security update) or 93-14 (v7.0, Dec 2016 security update) stock ROMs; they are not the soak tests, rather they appear to be the full Nougat stock ROM. The 93-11 update also appears to be signed by Motorola (though not released by them through official channels) and possibly is the same for 93-14. Still, if you're interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612 for the 93-11 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 for 93-14. Also, if you flash these, you may omit 2) since you'll directly flash to Nougat.
4)Nougat 7.0 seems to be a mixed bag for many - though the OS appears to work well for some, others have mentioned lag, battery drain/heating issues with Nougat as well as some interface issues. Your experience may vary.
5) If you wish to move back to the official OTA channel updates once you've updated to Nougat, you may be lucky in that once Motorola releases the Nougat OTA, the released build may be 93-14, so any subsequent OTAs should flash okay (provided 1) is still applicable), since your installed build matches what the OTA expects for future updates.
If you wish to downgrade and then install the official OTA to ensure you have a verified firmware from Motorola, you may wish to downgrade to MM, then update via OTA. A guide like this may help (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961) but ensure you do not downgrade your gpt or bootloader partitions else you risk damaging your phone - just omit those commands flashing either of those partitions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's these commands you omit when downgrading:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
Good luck either way
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1) Yes - you should still be eligible for stock OTA updates even with an unlocked bootloader - as far as I understand, the main thing the OTA checks is whether your recovery and kernel/system are stock and unmodified.
2) I didn't see any reports of that XT1643 update working for XT1644 devices - try this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980 Looks like a few reports suggest the .48 firmware works.
3) If I recall, US firmwares don't have the right build versions for that Nougat soak (think US is ending in .48 or .64/65?), so that file may not work. Also, the soak tests available lead to a broken upgrade path - besides the 75.2 soak test, as I understand there are no other soak test updates available to bring you back onto the OTA update, meaning you'd have to flash another Nougat firmware.
If you still desire Nougat, perhaps try flashing the 93-11 (v7.0, Nov 2016 security update) or 93-14 (v7.0, Dec 2016 security update) stock ROMs; they are not the soak tests, rather they appear to be the full Nougat stock ROM. The 93-11 update also appears to be signed by Motorola (though not released by them through official channels) and possibly is the same for 93-14. Still, if you're interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612 for the 93-11 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 for 93-14. Also, if you flash these, you may omit 2) since you'll directly flash to Nougat.
4)Nougat 7.0 seems to be a mixed bag for many - though the OS appears to work well for some, others have mentioned lag, battery drain/heating issues with Nougat as well as some interface issues. Your experience may vary.
5) If you wish to move back to the official OTA channel updates once you've updated to Nougat, you may be lucky in that once Motorola releases the Nougat OTA, the released build may be 93-14, so any subsequent OTAs should flash okay (provided 1) is still applicable), since your installed build matches what the OTA expects for future updates.
If you wish to downgrade and then install the official OTA to ensure you have a verified firmware from Motorola, you may wish to downgrade to MM, then update via OTA. A guide like this may help (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961) but ensure you do not downgrade your gpt or bootloader partitions else you risk damaging your phone - just omit those commands flashing either of those partitions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's these commands you omit when downgrading:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
Good luck either way
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Thanks a lot bro @echo92
I actully followed https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 these steps now I'm running on stock nougat
Just omitted the bootloader unlock part since you told me that I'll be receiving updates even if the bootloader is unlocked
echo92 said:
1) Yes - you should still be eligible for stock OTA updates even with an unlocked bootloader - as far as I understand, the main thing the OTA checks is whether your recovery and kernel/system are stock and unmodified.
2) I didn't see any reports of that XT1643 update working for XT1644 devices - try this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980 Looks like a few reports suggest the .48 firmware works.
3) If I recall, US firmwares don't have the right build versions for that Nougat soak (think US is ending in .48 or .64/65?), so that file may not work. Also, the soak tests available lead to a broken upgrade path - besides the 75.2 soak test, as I understand there are no other soak test updates available to bring you back onto the OTA update, meaning you'd have to flash another Nougat firmware.
If you still desire Nougat, perhaps try flashing the 93-11 (v7.0, Nov 2016 security update) or 93-14 (v7.0, Dec 2016 security update) stock ROMs; they are not the soak tests, rather they appear to be the full Nougat stock ROM. The 93-11 update also appears to be signed by Motorola (though not released by them through official channels) and possibly is the same for 93-14. Still, if you're interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612 for the 93-11 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 for 93-14. Also, if you flash these, you may omit 2) since you'll directly flash to Nougat.
4)Nougat 7.0 seems to be a mixed bag for many - though the OS appears to work well for some, others have mentioned lag, battery drain/heating issues with Nougat as well as some interface issues. Your experience may vary.
5) If you wish to move back to the official OTA channel updates once you've updated to Nougat, you may be lucky in that once Motorola releases the Nougat OTA, the released build may be 93-14, so any subsequent OTAs should flash okay (provided 1) is still applicable), since your installed build matches what the OTA expects for future updates.
If you wish to downgrade and then install the official OTA to ensure you have a verified firmware from Motorola, you may wish to downgrade to MM, then update via OTA. A guide like this may help (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961) but ensure you do not downgrade your gpt or bootloader partitions else you risk damaging your phone - just omit those commands flashing either of those partitions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's these commands you omit when downgrading:
fastboot flash partition gpt.bin
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
Good luck either way
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Thanks a lot bro @echo92
I actully followed https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 these steps now I'm running on stock nougat
Just omitted the bootloader unlock part since you told me that I'll be receiving updates even if the bootloader is unlocked
So I cannot find an update for the Moto g4. The software update says it is fully up to date even though it is running Android 6.1.1 when 7.0 is out.
If any info is needed, ask me.
I'm guessing you mean v6.0.1 MM (NPJ24-139.64/65 I think is the latest MM for XT1625 and XT1644 devices)?
If you wanted to, you could flash the fastboot stock ROM for NPJS25.93-14.4 which is the latest update available (v7.0, March 2017 security update):https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 As always, be aware that the update may affect your data (as with any flash to system), back up accordingly.
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I'm guessing you mean v6.0.1 MM (NPJ24-139.64/65 I think is the latest MM for XT1625 and XT1644 devices)?
If you wanted to, you could flash the fastboot stock ROM for NPJS25.93-14.4 which is the latest update available (v7.0, March 2017 security update):https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 As always, be aware that the update may affect your data (as with any flash to system), back up accordingly.
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Are you sure this is for XT1625? It looks like it is for XT1641 and 1645.
FIUSHerson said:
Are you sure this is for XT1625? It looks like it is for XT1641 and 1645.
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It should work, as the NPJS25.93-14.4 build is based on the NPJ25.93-14 (Dec 2016 security patch) build, just updated with the March 2017 security update.
If you wish to be more certain, you can flash the aforementioned NPJ25.93-14 update via the fastboot ROM (from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369) which has XT1625 users reporting it flashes, and then wait for the OTA for the March 2017 security patch (which recent indications suggest it's been deployed in the US), or you could sideload the OTA (after flashing the Nougat 93-14 update) by downloading from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/official-moto-g4-plus-ota-update-build-t3584982
Hopefully, by flashing the Nougat update, OTA updates will arrive again via the retail USA software channel.
Hey, can anyone provide and confirm which version of the stock firmware fits EU devices best? I bought used device with custom rom on it, and I'm curious which version should be base for my EU (german) device to get legit OTAs and security updates for my region? I'm a bit confused, because I couldn't find any proper adnotation for each firmware out there.
In other words, which stock rom versions will be suitable for European retEU XT1685 Moto G5 Plus? I don't want to mess something up if some stock firmwares are not meant to be flashed on EU device.
Please cleanse my concerns.
Cheers!
Mine is running NPNS25.137-33-5 also on reteu
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Mine is running NPNS25.137-33-5 also on reteu
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I see, so you started from flat NPNS25.137-33? How about the -67 version on EU devices, as it fixes some issues ie with camera recording?
Thats only on retin, this is the latest on reteu.
Hmm I installed myself -35 version before, in settings i had retEU, but couldn't get any ota updates and was on january securities.
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I recently restored my Moto g4 plus to completely stock. The battery is much better now but it doesn't detect the latest update. It is on version NPJ25.93-14 and it has received update notifications on the past but I couldn't update due to TWRP recovery being flashed. Now its completely stock but I don't get the update even when I check manually.
What software channel is your device on and do you have a SIM card inserted into the device? Sometimes, updates won't be delivered until the OTA servers know what mobile network you're on (presumably to check if you need a carrier update).
However, be aware that NPJ25.93-14 is a pretty old firmware (Dec 2016 security patch), so if your stock firmware was ever on a newer patch, I'd be very careful about using OTA updates - having a newer bootloader from a newer firmware and old stock system is a mismatch that could hard brick your device if you use OTA updates.
If you wish to update, and you're running a EU/UK/Brazil/Indian device, you might wish to look at flashing the latest April 2018 security NPJS25.93-14-18 https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 It's running well on my XT1642.
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What software channel is your device on and do you have a SIM card inserted into the device? Sometimes, updates won't be delivered until the OTA servers know what mobile network you're on (presumably to check if you need a carrier update).
However, be aware that NPJ25.93-14 is a pretty old firmware (Dec 2016 security patch), so if your stock firmware was ever on a newer patch, I'd be very careful about using OTA updates - having a newer bootloader from a newer firmware and old stock system is a mismatch that could hard brick your device if you use OTA updates.
If you wish to update, and you're running a EU/UK/Brazil/Indian device, you might wish to look at flashing the latest April 2018 security NPJS25.93-14-18 https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138 It's running well on my XT1642.
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The sim card thing did it! Didn't have the sim in it because it's not my primary phone anymore. Thanks for the help!
I was on Oreo 85.13 pre-release...then I unlocked bootloader...and installed pixel experience...but meanwhile I formatted all data which ihave backed up..then I installed twrp flashable with June security patch zip..and I was on Android 7..then I flashed pixel experience..now..if I want to back on Oreo stock and to lock bootloader..what should I have To do...???I heard somewhere you need stock Oreo ROM zip where I can find one...???is that same one which we have used in manually updating to Oreo... please reply...
As far as I know the only stock Oreo zip we have is the OTA, which can't be used to flash firmware. We need the full firmware file before we're able to flash stock ROMs via fastboot.
Anyway, I'm also curious if there are any differences for the unlocking/flashing/backup process starting at the official Oreo we have now, and if going back to it later is the same as it is with Nougat.
The stock US OTA update can be found here: https://technoplanners.blogspot.com...tock-update-for-moto-g5-plus-OPS28.85-13.html
This can be side-loaded to upgrade after you've flashed Nougat with one caveat. Nougat has to be at Build number NPNS25.137-92. If your Nougat ROM has the June security patches (Build number NPNS25.137-93) you'll be SOL since the manifest specifies the pre-req for the update. So the fools at Motorola released the June update for Nougat, then released Oreo at the same security patch level and won't let you apply the update. Real geniuses.
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The stock OTA update can be found here: https://technoplanners.blogspot.com...tock-update-for-moto-g5-plus-OPS28.85-13.html
This can be side-loaded to upgrade after you've flashed Nougat with one caveat. Nougat has to be at Build number NPNS25.137-92. If your Nougat ROM has the June security patches (Build number NPNS25.137-93) you'll be SOL since the manifest specifies the pre-req for the update. So the fools at Motorola released the June update for Nougat, then released Oreo at the same security patch level and won't let you apply the update. Real geniuses.
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That's not quite correct; the build required for this Oreo OTA that's currently around is NPNS25.137-92-14 (June 2018 security patch for Brazil and Indian devices). The NPNS25.137-93-14 patch you mentioned is the June 2018 patch for EU, US and Asian devices, which means the Oreo patch for those devices isn't around yet.
To the opening poster, as previously mentioned, you will have to wait for the OPS28.85-13 stock fastboot ROM to be leaked. You must lock with a stock firmware as new or newer than your current bootloader. You cannot downgrade bootloaders via fastboot anyway and it's really not recommended to downgrade.
The US patch is available (Blur_Version.28.51.16.potter.retail.en.US.zip). It can be downloaded from the link I provided.
Correction: My bad. Didn't realize "92" indicated India and "93" indicated US. Evidently the referenced download is labeled wrong