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i was at a bar i didn't even want to be at in a small town in colorado.
at first i just stared at it for 10 seconds thinking "at this point i should just leave it there because the damage is done"
then all of a sudden it started goign crazy with lights and "samsung vibrant" flashing everywhere on the screen, so i decided to dive in and save it. then i violently washed it with hotwater under the sink and only after washing my hands did i finally open it and take out the battery (at this point, the screen shown brightly with "samsung vibrant).
3 hours later, hoping it had dried completely, i put the battery in and again it came to life with the samsung vibrant text. i quickly took the battery out.
i jsut tried it again and it wont turn on at all. is it over?
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3 hours later, hoping it had dried completely, i put the battery in and again it came to life with the samsung vibrant text. i quickly took the battery out.
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You shouldn't have done that, the phone was still wet. When you did that you fried your phone. If you would have put your phone in a bag of rice or let it dry out for a few days then it might have been ok. Hope you have insurance.
Yeah, I always heard that half the time, if you power it off and let it dry, and make sure it's dry before trying to power it on again, you can luck out.
omg omg omg!!
when you responded, my heart dropped and then i ran over to see if it would start again one more time (i plugged it into the charger) and i pressed the on button and it showed it was charging. i'm goign to leave it alone now in a bag of rice like you said. but i dont know if i can wait 3 days.... i never learn my lesson
Hahaha I dropped a phone in the toilet once. Good luck
i know i'm getting ahead of myself, but just SAY that if i finally do get it to power on, but nothing shows up except a "samsung vibrant" screen, is there a way to reinstall the OS?
My son left his ipod nano in his pants pocket. It got washed. I dried it and did the rice thing for 2-3 days (can't remember how many). Charged it up. Just like new.
The moral of the story? If you can't wait 3 days to see if it has been salvaged, you don't deserve a new phone...
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My son left his ipod nano in his pants pocket. It got washed. I dried it and did the rice thing for 2-3 days (can't remember how many). Charged it up. Just like new.
The moral of the story? If you can't wait 3 days to see if it has been salvaged, you don't deserve a new phone...
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ugh. fine. i'll wait. but i dont know what i'l do with myself in the meantime.
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i know i'm getting ahead of myself, but just SAY that if i finally do get it to power on, but nothing shows up except a "samsung vibrant" screen, is there a way to reinstall the OS?
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Uh, dude, it would not be a software problem... If it doesn't boot up its a hardware problem.
Just make sure its sitting nicely covered in the dry rice....wait...you did use dry rice right? Not cooked rice??? lol kidding...
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Uh, dude, it would not be a software problem... If it doesn't boot up its a hardware problem.
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if you read my question, i asked what i could do if it DID power up but only with a generic screen
I wouldn't even bother trying... It's fried man...
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I wouldn't even bother trying... It's fried man...
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we'll see. the green charging light gives me hope. i will definitely not pay full price for a new one. this was $99 through costco-- which is what a phone should cost.
Don't over cook the rice. Stir-fry it with some egg, carrots, scallions, peas, and barbecued pork. Everything should be okay.
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we'll see. the green charging light gives me hope. i will definitely not pay full price for a new one. this was $99 through costco-- which is what a phone should cost.
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This is why the data is so expensive in America. The companies need to get back the money they lost on the phone.
The phone might be fried since you didn't wait to turn it off. I've read the bag of rice will work. Next time wait until you phone is dry and just reroute you calls with Google Voice. I'd still try the rice too.
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Did you say after you took it out the the toilet you then washed it under hot water? Seriously? You thought "oh, its wet, I shall now soak it some more?"
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To clarify a little... when you drop the phone in water, the FIRST thing you do is take out the battery and sim card. Then you let it dry COMPLETLY, this takes days, not hours. Like said above, rice does good, you put it in a zip lock, take out the air and seal it.. leave for AT LEAST 3 days so the rice can absorb the moisture, THEN you try to turn it on for the first time. If you try turning it on when there is moisture you will fry the phone, water conducts electricity and brings power where there is not supposed to be and burns circuits, so by putting the battery and attempt to turn it on prematurely, you are killing it causing short circuits internally.
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make sure you throw the rice away after you're done or better yet, feed it to some iphone fanboy
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To clarify a little... when you drop the phone in water, the FIRST thing you do is take out the battery and sim card. Then you let it dry COMPLETLY, this takes days, not hours. Like said above, rice does good, you put it in a zip lock, take out the air and seal it.. leave for AT LEAST 3 days so the rice can absorb the moisture, THEN you try to turn it on for the first time. If you try turning it on when there is moisture you will fry the phone, water conducts electricity and brings power where there is not supposed to be and burns circuits, so by putting the battery and attempt to turn it on prematurely, you are killing it causing short circuits internally.
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+1 and ty , I just read through this post and wondered when someone would point out the OP already turned it on to "check" it after being in the water.
Time to order a replacement, even if it does for some magical reason power on that phone is going to be issue city.
I've been runnin the unity rom for a couple of months now( i was) with no issues at all, when yesterday morning my phone turned off itself and i haven't been able to bring it back to life. i dont know if i have the bad chip, never cared to check but i regret it now lol... any sugestions would help.... also i have tried turning on w/o sim card with a different battery, also tried to get it to bootloader but it just wont turn on at all.. thanks in advance
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I've been runnin the unity rom for a couple of months now( i was) with no issues at all, when yesterday morning my phone turned off itself and i haven't been able to bring it back to life. i dont know if i have the bad chip, never cared to check but i regret it now lol... any sugestions would help.... also i have tried turning on w/o sim card with a different battery, also tried to get it to bootloader but it just wont turn on at all.. thanks in advance
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Does the computer recognize it?
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If you're talking about no power at all, it doesn't sound like a software issue. It sounds like an electrical issue.
If the screen backlight comes on when you hit the power button, then it could be software or electronic (borked chip, broken circuit board, etc)
Plugging it in, even if it's a dead phone, should still charge the battery if the electrical circuits are good. The LED will come on at orange or green and that should tell you if there is physically electricity running through the circuits.
If you get nothing, something in the phone died. I'm starting to realize the MT4G has a pretty poor build quality.
If the battery is charging and the backlight comes out, maybe a quick vibrate to indicate charging, then you could have some kind of an electrical short in the circuitry somewhere.
Or you just have a bad power button. That's a possibly. But that's odd that it turned itself off. That's what makes me think the power button itself isn't what's wrong.
In all cases it sounds dead. If you can't get to the recovery screen there's not much you can do.
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no the computer does not recognize..thanks
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If you're talking about no power at all, it doesn't sound like a software issue. It sounds like an electrical issue.
If the screen backlight comes on when you hit the power button, then it could be software or electronic (borked chip, broken circuit board, etc)
Plugging it in, even if it's a dead phone, should still charge the battery if the electrical circuits are good. The LED will come on at orange or green and that should tell you if there is physically electricity running through the circuits.
If you get nothing, something in the phone died. I'm starting to realize the MT4G has a pretty poor build quality.
If the battery is charging and the backlight comes out, maybe a quick vibrate to indicate charging, then you could have some kind of an electrical short in the circuitry somewhere.
Or you just have a bad power button. That's a possibly. But that's odd that it turned itself off. That's what makes me think the power button itself isn't what's wrong.
In all cases it sounds dead. If you can't get to the recovery screen there's not much you can do.
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no led lights it just died lol... it wont do a thing. im starting to think that it has some kind of short between the battery and the circuit that distributes power through out the phone.. thats my best guess.thanks
You can also check to make sure the battery isn't the problem by removing it and plugging the phone in. Again, the best you'll get is a brief flash of the backlight. But if you don't get that, you can be sure the battery itself isn't the problem.
Or just put a new battery in and see if that works.
This is highly unlikely to be the cause. But it's all about narrowing the possibilities. I've been fiddling with electronics for 20 years now. One thing I'm sure of is that you should never discount the really unlikely source of a problem. It won't usually be the answer, but every once in a while something you'd just never suspect ends up being the culprit.
I had the exact same issue, earlier this year. Your emmc chip gave you the bird. Go into Tmobile store, tell then your phone won't turn on, you tried the normal tricks, but nothing works. Act a little dumb with them,I did that an got a new one under warranty for $5, came in the mail the days later. DO NOT MENTION ANYTHING BOUT YOUR PHONE BEING ROOTED. If you do, your gonna have to pay full price for a new one or though the issuance company a $130(or whatever your deductible is).
Trust me on this, it works. I'm still using the phone they sent to me back in June.
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From my fist to your face, enjoy!
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I had the exact same issue, earlier this year. Your emmc chip gave you the bird. Go into Tmobile store, tell then your phone won't turn on, you tried the normal tricks, but nothing works. Act a little dumb with them,I did that an got a new one under warranty for $5, came in the mail the days later. DO NOT MENTION ANYTHING BOUT YOUR PHONE BEING ROOTED. If you do, your gonna have to pay full price for a new one or though the issuance company a $130(or whatever your deductible is).
Trust me on this, it works. I'm still using the phone they sent to me back in June.
If I helped, give thanks(via the button )
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ill try it tomorrow see if it works lol.... hopefully...thanks i was afraid of being the emmc chip.... damn it..
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ill try it tomorrow see if it works lol.... hopefully...thanks i was afraid of being the emmc chip.... damn it..
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It's always good to be safe then sorry
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I was playing around with my Nexus 4. It fell in a glass of water. I took it out within 2 seconds. Phone booted up and worked fine except Camera and the earpiece. Those started to work fine after around 5 hrs automatically. I flashed Stock Android 4.2.2 via Fastboot after everything was working fine. It failed while flashing bootloader and then the phone went completely blank. I did 30 mins of work and google search and I was trying all sorts of combinations and the phone booted by luck. After then it went in Blank many times showing *white* LED. I was always able to take it out of that by some combinations. Now the phone got stuck in bootloop. I switched off the phone and plugged it for charging. It charged upto 100%. My mom took my phone and locked in the cupboard (due to exams) I got it today (after 2 days) and when I try to boot then it just shows *Red* LED for some time and then goes off. If I plug it to a wall charger then the Red LED lasts merely a second.
Please help me guys.
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I was playing around with my Nexus 4. It fell in a glass of water. I took it out within 2 seconds. Phone booted up and worked fine except Camera and the earpiece. Those started to work fine after around 5 hrs automatically. I flashed Stock Android 4.2.2 via Fastboot after everything was working fine. It failed while flashing bootloader and then the phone went completely blank. I did 30 mins of work and google search and I was trying all sorts of combinations and the phone booted by luck. After then it went in Blank many times showing *white* LED. I was always able to take it out of that by some combinations. Now the phone got stuck in bootloop. I switched off the phone and plugged it for charging. It charged upto 100%. My mom took my phone and locked in the cupboard (due to exams) I got it today (after 2 days) and when I try to boot then it just shows *Red* LED for some time and then goes off. If I plug it to a wall charger then the Red LED lasts merely a second.
Please help me guys.
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Take out the battery and reinsert it,i have seen people complaining of red blinking led issue,but in their case,the phone shut down due to 0 battery,and when try to turn on by connecting wall charger,the issue showed up.If there's a possibility that the phone got completely discharged in cupboard(due to low or no signal),then that might be ur issue as well.
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Take out the battery and reinsert it,i have seen people complaining of red blinking led issue,but in their case,the phone shut down due to 0 battery,and when try to turn on by connecting wall charger,the issue showed up.If there's a possibility that the phone got completely discharged in cupboard(due to low or no signal),then that might be ur issue as well.
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The phone was powered off in the cupboard
ashishv said:
Take out the battery and reinsert it,i have seen people complaining of red blinking led issue,but in their case,the phone shut down due to 0 battery,and when try to turn on by connecting wall charger,the issue showed up.If there's a possibility that the phone got completely discharged in cupboard(due to low or no signal),then that might be ur issue as well.
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I am afraid taking out the battery. What if voided the phone ?
If the phone has been water damaged, warranty won't help you anyway so you haven't got anything to lose! Just a reminder, if you drop your phone in water, turn it off (take out the battery if possible) and put it in a bowl of rice for 12-48 hours to help dry it out, do not turn it on before then!
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I am afraid taking out the battery. What if voided the phone ?
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You are already voided due to water damage.....
BigDig said:
You are already voided due to water damage.....
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And btw no international warranty for this phone.
But it is already worked completely fine after around 5 days. I also instantly blew a hard dryer on it and it go to work. It shows no signs of Water Damage
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And btw no international warranty for this phone.
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I can ship it back to US. I bought it from Indian site which ships phone to US if any problems come and will deal with RMA.
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I can ship it back to US. I bought it from Indian site which ships phone to US if any problems come and will deal with RMA.
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Which site?I used ppobox.
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Which site?I used ppobox.
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TheAmericanBazaar
Also when it fell in water it had the cover on and the screen protector over too.
Was going to sell and buy HTC One and Google trolled me
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I am afraid taking out the battery. What if voided the phone ?
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The phone isn't really hard to take apart, I posted a video on YouTube a while back showing how to take apart the phone and replace the screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1aiut8RXhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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The phone isn't really hard to take apart, I posted a video on YouTube a while back showing how to take apart the phone and replace the screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1aiut8RXhc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Will try then
I have a complete set of screw drivers. None worked on the Nexus 4 :/
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Dropped phone in toilet. 2 seconds max. Didnt have luxery of a torque screw or pop open capabilities threw the N4 in bag of rice. 4 days later. it turns on and the screen looks fine, but auto shut down right when main screen loads. Checked for water damage on the inside: void stickers were pink, but phone seemed fine and no sign of water damage, until I took out the battery. it looked a bit damaged. I replaced it today and I am still getting the same issue. Right when I am taken past the Cyanogenmod loading screen, the main page loads and says "shutting off" or "powering down" whatever it says. The battery seems to always be between 16-18% also. Anyone ran into a situation like this or have any suggestions? please!!!! thanks!
I am a Nexus advocate and the same will most likely be true no matter which name or branding Google chooses to use... that is as long as they don't steer away from the customizability and the virtually impossibility of a software brick.
Anywho I am a owner of a 6p. I bought it in Feb. around Valentine's day. The reason this is revenant is because @ that time is when the gold nexus came out and was on sale. The only problem being was I didn't want the gold.. I wanted the aluminum one. I was able to remedy that easily enough. I ordered a new Rear housing via ali express which came with the glass and bottom plastic piece that covered the screws. I have repaired my Nexus 5 lcd probably 5 times. So I have some experience with mobile repair. When the back finally came in (like a month). I watched a quick tutorial of a tear down. When I was applying heat I used a little too much and ruined my camera. I was able to access the camera but it was very blurry to the point of not being able to make out what ever it was. So I ordered another camera via ali express again, waited a month, then attempted another repair. This time I had no issues with the heat gun or removing the rear housing. To replace the camera was not as easy as it would have been for the Nexus 5... there are several steps involved... one of which being too take out the battery... I cannot figure out for the life of me why Huawei would feel it necessary to apply a **** ton of adhesive on a battery that has little to no wiggle room but they did. While I was attempting the removal I ripped the poly bag and could instantly smell the lithium. Soooo I ended up ordering a new battery from China again. While I was waiting for it to come in the phone fell off of my bench and cracked the screen. I had no idea if the screen would work or not until the battery arrived so I could test. Well the battery came in finally I installed it with no issues. The phone is once again in one piece but unfortunately the screen does not work, but, I am not sure that it is only the screen not working. Is there anyway that I would be able to troubleshoot or verify that it is only the screen that isn't working? This is why I named the post pivotal moment... if it is only the screen and I can somehow verify it then ill purchase a screen... but if I order the screen, replace it, only to find out that it is not the screen where the problems reside and/or it is only one of many problems then I'll probably give up and lick my wounds.. So, in a nutshell, is there anyway to run a diagnostic or anything like it... At this point ANY help or suggestions are welcome.
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Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
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Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
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I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
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I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
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Try holding down volume down + power for a couple seconds and plug it into a PC and see if it tries to load fastboot drivers.
one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
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one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
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How long have you had the phone plugged in to a charger?
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
i2andog said:
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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No worries, we all have lives.
And well, the only thing you could really do would be to remove the battery and then jump the terminals from an external supply.
It'd be the same as using a laptop with the battery removed and having it plugged into the wall still.
Hi guys...
I brought my wife and I back to Android from Windows Phone just before Christmas.
Bought my wife a V20.
Last night, with about 80% battery, she was sending a text message to me... And the phone died.
Ever since, we cannot get it to turn on. We have pulled the battery... Done the whole power button discharge thing... Tried to enter recovery... Tried charging it
The ONLY response (if you would call it that) we have managed to get is that the phone got warm whilst charging.
I'm running out of ideas... Have bought a spare battery which arrives tomorrow... Any other ideas greatly appreciated.
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Hi guys...
I brought my wife and I back to Android from Windows Phone just before Christmas.
Bought my wife a V20.
Last night, with about 80% battery, she was sending a text message to me... And the phone died.
Ever since, we cannot get it to turn on. We have pulled the battery... Done the whole power button discharge thing... Tried to enter recovery... Tried charging it
The ONLY response (if you would call it that) we have managed to get is that the phone got warm whilst charging.
I'm running out of ideas... Have bought a spare battery which arrives tomorrow... Any other ideas greatly appreciated.
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Does it stay on with the charger plugged in?
No... With the charger plugged in there are no signs of life... So no charging screen, no led lights etc.
Well... New battery did nothing.
I just don't understand it... No physical or water damage... Working and in use to suddenly completely dead... It makes no sense?
hi, im from Argentina and got the same problem. My phone died after i restarted, it doesn't turn on even with charger pluged in. hope theres a solution. Abrazo enorme.
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Well... New battery did nothing.
I just don't understand it... No physical or water damage... Working and in use to suddenly completely dead... It makes no sense?
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Sounds like a warranty claim with LG
This happened to an LG g3 a couple of years ago. Seriously thinking of moving on from LG
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Sounds like a warranty claim with LG
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seconded this
it's broken on normal usage, so it should be some unlucky faulty product then
I have the same problem, it just died in the middle of checking my email, while on the charger, battery at 90%. It won't turn on no matter what. I've had mine for only 2 weeks.
LG are a bunch of assholes (mods feel free to censor that if you have to). I mean SERIOUS ASSHOLES!.
They could have designed their PBL to have FEC (forward error correction), but better yet, they could have designed it so that if a sig match fails, you STILL get download mode so you can reflash your phone.
Nooooo ...... they are super assholes, and if your phone fails a sig check then it is a brick.
What probably happened is that your NAND has some bad spots, and therefore the RSA signed firmware failed a signature check.
Due to the lawsuit, you can call LG and tell them you have a brick, and they will probably replace it.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
LG are a bunch of assholes (mods feel free to censor that if you have to). I mean SERIOUS ASSHOLES!.
They could have designed their PBL to have FEC (forward error correction), but better yet, they could have designed it so that if a sig match fails, you STILL get download mode so you can reflash your phone.
Nooooo ...... they are super assholes, and if your phone fails a sig check then it is a brick.
What probably happened is that your NAND has some bad spots, and therefore the RSA signed firmware failed a signature check.
Due to the lawsuit, you can call LG and tell them you have a brick, and they will probably replace it.
-- Brian
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I had this happen to a G3. Now I'm worried about the 3 V20s I own in my family. No more LG
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I have the same issue. It died while I was using it. Ordered new battery and it still doesn't power up. I have a lot of pictures that I want to transfer to my new phone, but without a power I cannot transfer them to my new phone. Any ideas? Pls help
Malo757va said:
I have the same issue. It died while I was using it. Ordered new battery and it still doesn't power up. I have a lot of pictures that I want to transfer to my new phone, but without a power I cannot transfer them to my new phone. Any ideas? Pls help
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Well unless the pictures are on the external SD card, you're out of luck
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Same story happened last night , having my LG V20 for about 4 years , i only played music and some recordings plus social media through this device ..a few days ago i've seen some crashes and restarts maybe due to it's full storage (2 GB free) or using it continuously on charging mode . finally last night it gone completely dead and black! i've tried almost every solving video tips on you tube and some websites (also charging with and without the battery) the only major living sign was getting warm while chargin it without the battery!! any ideas?!
My v20 unfortunately did this same thing after replacing the screen, 60gb worth of important photos lost forever now.. GREAT.. Won't even warm up while plugged in, no vibrations, nothing. completely dead and i can't even get a voltage reading on the board anywhere except the battery terminals. as if the board's traces were cut from the battery. Only took a year on a used v20