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Atrix died a horrible death *water damage*

Stupidly, I got in to the hot tub with my Atrix in my shorts. I realized it too late but it was only under water for about 5 seconds. I pulled it out of my pocket and sure enough it was dead and wouldn't turn on. Red water indicators were blown.
I let it sit in some rice for about 36 hours, and shook any excess water out.
Today, I just opened it up and there is no water to be found.
Everytime I put the battery in though, the camera flash LED goes crazy and flashes about 3-4 times before stopping. It turns on and goes to the ATT splash screen, but then restarts.
After it restarts, it sits at the Dual Core screen, then says Modem did not power up (0) - Starting RSD protocol support
I am going to try reflashing the firmware on it to see if it may fix the problem. I hope.
Any ideas on how to maybe save my phone?
Thanks,

jortiz17 said:
Stupidly, I got in to the hot tub with my Atrix in my shorts. I realized it too late but it was only under water for about 5 seconds. I pulled it out of my pocket and sure enough it was dead and wouldn't turn on. Red water indicators were blown.
I let it sit in some rice for about 36 hours, and shook any excess water out.
Today, I just opened it up and there is no water to be found.
Everytime I put the battery in though, the camera flash LED goes crazy and flashes about 3-4 times before stopping. It turns on and goes to the ATT splash screen, but then restarts.
After it restarts, it sits at the Dual Core screen, then says Modem did not power up (0) - Starting RSD protocol support
I am going to try reflashing the firmware on it to see if it may fix the problem. I hope.
Any ideas on how to maybe save my phone?
Thanks,
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unfortunately I spent quite a long time trying to fix an Atrix with a modem did not power up problem
i have not figured out a software way to fix it... hope you have better luck though

When water contacts the board it connects everything.
You're probably SOL.
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Sounds like you're out of luck. But might as well try anything you can think of
Sent from AT&T SGS2

sometimes even if you drain all the water out some components frazzle themselves as soon as water hits, sorry to hear, hope you find a fix!

xhazk said:
When water contacts the board it connects everything.
You're probably SOL.
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PixelGuy said:
sometimes even if you drain all the water out some components frazzle themselves as soon as water hits, sorry to hear, hope you find a fix!
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Yes, but generally when such a short happens, the phone immediately shuts off. The phone basically isn't on long enough for anything to "frazzle" itself.
Unfortunately, jortiz, You probably made the biggest error you could have ever done with a wet electronic device...
I realized it too late but it was only under water for about 5 seconds. I pulled it out of my pocket and sure enough it was dead and wouldn't turn on.
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NEVER....... EVER try to turn on a device if it shut off after being submersed in water. Will do SIGNIFICANTLY more harm than good. I've seen several phones that were soaked... either from the person being shoved into the pool with the phone in their pocket, or it having just been left in the rain. 9 times out of 10, if they're left to dry for a while, they turn on without really any issues. Attempting to turn it on while it was still wet probably eliminated just about any chance of there not being something wrong with the phone.

Well, my Nexus 4 lasted a month.

Went out yesterday afternoon with some friends, had about 80% charge on the battery. Probably an hour into my night, I went to check my phone (i always keep it in my front pocket), and to my confusion, it wouldn't power on. Okay...maybe somehow an app left running killed the battery (although I think they designed the phones not to do this). Fast forward about 4 hours, when we get back home. I plug the phone into the wall charger and instantly see an unfamiliar blinking red led light just above the charge port. The phone wouldn't power up, decided to check back later. 30 Minutes later, still nothing. 8 Hours later on charge, still nothing.
I've tried hard resetting, I've tried holding the power button for 30 seconds, I've tried holding all three simultaneously. I guess it's just a dead phone.
I didn't root the phone, I didn't custom-rom the phone, no 3rd-party kernel...nothing...she was completely stock.
I called google, their support agent wasn't familiar with the phone. Said he'd get an RMA started, would email me the details he needed from me...never got back to me. I'm pretty pissed.
Waiting 5 weeks for a phone that dies in a month....not a happy camper.
UPDATE! FIXED IT
Following the guide here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
I took it apart, disconnected the battery lead, and reconnected the lead...poof it boots!!
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UPDATE #2
The phone "died" again. Took it apart again, pulled the battery, again. Factory Reset, the phones been on a charger since then and it is still on, we'll see how it lasts the day.
I'm not sure if there is any proof of this, but I read somewhere that benchmarking apps can cause this(?) I had Quadrant installed on my device shortly before this happened. Anyway, I'll let you guys know if I have any more problems.
UPDATE #3
I've lost it again. I don't know what to do at this point...

Before I proceed,
1) Are you comfortable working on electronics
if yes, continue to 2. if not, stop here.
2) Do you have the appropriate tools?

rr5678 said:
Before I proceed,
1) Are you comfortable working on electronics
if yes, continue to 2. if not, stop here.
2) Do you have the appropriate tools?
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Yes and Yes, but I don't want to void my warranty on such an unknown problem. I'd rather see it replaced and they can research the problem on my phone and try to prevent it in the future so others don't have to go through this. Thanks

Don't you just hate the fact that some random employee at Google will easily have access to all of your personal data left on the phone?
Oh well, at least you get taken care of.

ethugp3pp3r said:
Yes and Yes, but I don't want to void my warranty on such an unknown problem. I'd rather see it replaced and they can research the problem on my phone and try to prevent it in the future so others don't have to go through this. Thanks
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I'm not aware of any warranty/void stickers on this phone.

have you seen this?

If
If the phone battery has been discharged too far then it becomes dangerous to try and recharge it as it can explode, this is why these sorts of safety mechanisms kick in sometimes.
Your only option is to send it back, if the battery safety device has been activated, it will be permanent and can only be fixed by a new battery
Regards
Phil

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I'm not aware of any warranty/void stickers on this phone.
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Are you sure? Can anybody else verify this? What were you going to suggest doing? I'm having lots of complications with the RMA process because i'm currently visiting in England until the end of the month and then I'll go back to Germany where I'll be living for the next ~7 months. I got this phone last month when I was visiting home in the US. It's a total disaster and if disconnecting and reconnecting my battery is all I need to do (and I won't void the warranty), I'd prefer to give that a go.

oh and another thing...when I connect the phone to my laptop, the USB connect/disconnect sound plays every 5-6 seconds. So it seems like the phone is turning on, and then off again...over and over again.

ethugp3pp3r said:
oh and another thing...when I connect the phone to my laptop, the USB connect/disconnect sound plays every 5-6 seconds. So it seems like the phone is turning on, and then off again...over and over again.
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I figured that all this red light stuff could be solved by a simple battery pull, but LG was too STUPID to realize that people need an accessible battery and now to even try it, you have to open the phone and unscrew the battery connector.

rr5678 said:
I figured that all this red light stuff could be solved by a simple battery pull, but LG was too STUPID to realize that people need an accessible battery and now to even try it, you have to open the phone and unscrew the battery connector.
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Is it really that easy? Will the warranty be voided?

Following the guide here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
I took it apart, disconnected the battery lead, and reconnected the lead...poof it boots!!

ethugp3pp3r said:
Following the guide here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
I took it apart, disconnected the battery lead, and reconnected the lead...poof it boots!!
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There you go. You've confirmed the fix.

HI EVERYBODY.
I'm back. The phone has done it again. I've not got the patience to peel the back off, but it's gone into the blinking red light on charge/not booting up at all mode.
GOOGLE/LG, IF YOU'RE READING THIS, Send us all a new battery as well as the tools to replace it, and update the software, too. I'd also like $50 for the trouble, and please, fire every single "support technician" that thinks the sim card is behind the battery on a nexus (I've had that 2 times now from support)
The phone is great when it works, but it's "infrastructure" is absolutely god awful.
Will report back. Recommendations are welcome!

ethugp3pp3r said:
HI EVERYBODY.
I'm back. The phone has done it again. I've not got the patience to peel the back off, but it's gone into the blinking red light on charge/not booting up at all mode.
GOOGLE/LG, IF YOU'RE READING THIS, Send us all a new battery as well as the tools to replace it, and update the software, too. I'd also like $50 for the trouble, and please, fire every single "support technician" that thinks the sim card is behind the battery on a nexus (I've had that 2 times now from support)
The phone is great when it works, but it's "infrastructure" is absolutely god awful.
Will report back. Recommendations are welcome!
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Did you let your battery drain all the way or something?
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BigDig said:
Did you let your battery drain all the way or something?
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Nope, I haven't done that. I just took it apart and reconnected the battery for the 3rd time. I really don't know what the f**k to do at this point. Does anybody have any idea what could be causing this? Google will not allow me to RMA the phone because I bought it in the US and I live in Germany (they won't ship it to Germany for some **** reason).
ahhhhhh!!

ethugp3pp3r said:
Nope, I haven't done that. I just took it apart and reconnected the battery for the 3rd time. I really don't know what the f**k to do at this point. Does anybody have any idea what could be causing this? Google will not allow me to RMA the phone because I bought it in the US and I live in Germany (they won't ship it to Germany for some **** reason).
ahhhhhh!!
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bad battery is causing it...
Find a replacement.
You can also call LG instead of google. They may RMA for you.

tweaked said:
bad battery is causing it...
Find a replacement.
You can also call LG instead of google. They may RMA for you.
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It's lasted through the night off the charger on Franco's Kernel and CM 10.1
not sure what that tells us, but I'm happy!

I'm 90% sure all of these weird battery problems + red light are because of stock charger!
Search around and see..

calanizzle said:
I'm 90% sure all of these weird battery problems + red light are because of stock charger!
Search around and see..
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Good thing I hardly use that one
But instead of telling us to search, could you provide us with sources? Because this is interesting.
Somebody should compare the LG charger with another good quality charger, a Samsung or Nokia for example, using a scope.

[Q][SOLVED] Hard Brick or Short Circuit?

Today morning while going to my college i noticed that the phone seemed switched off. It was working fine and had just kept it in the pocket for a second.Upon removing it the mobile seemed switched off. I tried turning it on, but had no respite. even when kept for charging it doesn't show the "charging animation". Any suggestions?
P.S: Going to the service center will be my last resort if nothing works. :crying:
Was on a Remix 2.5 with Hells kernel if that helps(im sure it has nothing to do with this).

MrJellybean said:
Today morning while going to my college i noticed that the phone seemed switched off. It was working fine and had just kept it in the pocket for a second.Upon removing it the mobile seemed switched off. I tried turning it on, but had no respite. even when kept for charging it doesn't show the "charging animation". Any suggestions?
P.S: Going to the service center will be my last resort if nothing works. :crying:
Was on a Remix 2.5 with Hells kernel if that helps(im sure it has nothing to do with this).
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This happens mostly when Water has seeped into your device! I would suggest to keep it inside a box of rice for a day or two... If doesn't work then their are guides to recover from hard brick

agosain7 said:
This happens mostly when Water has seeped into your device! I would suggest to keep it inside a box of rice for a day or two... If doesn't work then their are guides to recover from hard brick
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Well that had happened 2 months ago. Yes, i had kept it in a box full of rice for 4 days. It was working well. It's just that it has happened today ALL OF A SUDDEN :/

MrJellybean said:
Well that had happened 2 months ago. Yes, i had kept it in a box full of rice for 4 days. It was working well. It's just that it has happened today ALL OF A SUDDEN :/
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Keep it in a box of rice again for 2-3 days andit shall work fine again.
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It could also be a motherboard failure. My cousin's galaxy nexus also had a motherboard failure, you can even get it repaired, the only option is to get it replaced...

xXx~~~SHLOK~~~xXx said:
It could also be a motherboard failure. My cousin's galaxy nexus also had a motherboard failure, you can even get it repaired, the only option is to get it replaced...
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Lol. That's what I feared it to be but wait..it started working all of a sudden. Automatic revival!!

PIVOTAL CROSSROADS... Any help is better then no help.

I am a Nexus advocate and the same will most likely be true no matter which name or branding Google chooses to use... that is as long as they don't steer away from the customizability and the virtually impossibility of a software brick.
Anywho I am a owner of a 6p. I bought it in Feb. around Valentine's day. The reason this is revenant is because @ that time is when the gold nexus came out and was on sale. The only problem being was I didn't want the gold.. I wanted the aluminum one. I was able to remedy that easily enough. I ordered a new Rear housing via ali express which came with the glass and bottom plastic piece that covered the screws. I have repaired my Nexus 5 lcd probably 5 times. So I have some experience with mobile repair. When the back finally came in (like a month). I watched a quick tutorial of a tear down. When I was applying heat I used a little too much and ruined my camera. I was able to access the camera but it was very blurry to the point of not being able to make out what ever it was. So I ordered another camera via ali express again, waited a month, then attempted another repair. This time I had no issues with the heat gun or removing the rear housing. To replace the camera was not as easy as it would have been for the Nexus 5... there are several steps involved... one of which being too take out the battery... I cannot figure out for the life of me why Huawei would feel it necessary to apply a **** ton of adhesive on a battery that has little to no wiggle room but they did. While I was attempting the removal I ripped the poly bag and could instantly smell the lithium. Soooo I ended up ordering a new battery from China again. While I was waiting for it to come in the phone fell off of my bench and cracked the screen. I had no idea if the screen would work or not until the battery arrived so I could test. Well the battery came in finally I installed it with no issues. The phone is once again in one piece but unfortunately the screen does not work, but, I am not sure that it is only the screen not working. Is there anyway that I would be able to troubleshoot or verify that it is only the screen that isn't working? This is why I named the post pivotal moment... if it is only the screen and I can somehow verify it then ill purchase a screen... but if I order the screen, replace it, only to find out that it is not the screen where the problems reside and/or it is only one of many problems then I'll probably give up and lick my wounds.. So, in a nutshell, is there anyway to run a diagnostic or anything like it... At this point ANY help or suggestions are welcome.
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Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?

teh roxxorz said:
Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
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I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...

i2andog said:
I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
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Try holding down volume down + power for a couple seconds and plug it into a PC and see if it tries to load fastboot drivers.

one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.

i2andog said:
one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
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How long have you had the phone plugged in to a charger?

After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..

i2andog said:
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.

teh roxxorz said:
Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...

i2andog said:
My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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No worries, we all have lives.
And well, the only thing you could really do would be to remove the battery and then jump the terminals from an external supply.
It'd be the same as using a laptop with the battery removed and having it plugged into the wall still.

Very strange - Completely dead V20?

Hi guys...
I brought my wife and I back to Android from Windows Phone just before Christmas.
Bought my wife a V20.
Last night, with about 80% battery, she was sending a text message to me... And the phone died.
Ever since, we cannot get it to turn on. We have pulled the battery... Done the whole power button discharge thing... Tried to enter recovery... Tried charging it
The ONLY response (if you would call it that) we have managed to get is that the phone got warm whilst charging.
I'm running out of ideas... Have bought a spare battery which arrives tomorrow... Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

crabby09 said:
Hi guys...
I brought my wife and I back to Android from Windows Phone just before Christmas.
Bought my wife a V20.
Last night, with about 80% battery, she was sending a text message to me... And the phone died.
Ever since, we cannot get it to turn on. We have pulled the battery... Done the whole power button discharge thing... Tried to enter recovery... Tried charging it
The ONLY response (if you would call it that) we have managed to get is that the phone got warm whilst charging.
I'm running out of ideas... Have bought a spare battery which arrives tomorrow... Any other ideas greatly appreciated.
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Does it stay on with the charger plugged in?

No... With the charger plugged in there are no signs of life... So no charging screen, no led lights etc.

Well... New battery did nothing.
I just don't understand it... No physical or water damage... Working and in use to suddenly completely dead... It makes no sense?

hi, im from Argentina and got the same problem. My phone died after i restarted, it doesn't turn on even with charger pluged in. hope theres a solution. Abrazo enorme.

crabby09 said:
Well... New battery did nothing.
I just don't understand it... No physical or water damage... Working and in use to suddenly completely dead... It makes no sense?
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Sounds like a warranty claim with LG

This happened to an LG g3 a couple of years ago. Seriously thinking of moving on from LG

cnjax said:
Sounds like a warranty claim with LG
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seconded this
it's broken on normal usage, so it should be some unlucky faulty product then

I have the same problem, it just died in the middle of checking my email, while on the charger, battery at 90%. It won't turn on no matter what. I've had mine for only 2 weeks.

LG are a bunch of assholes (mods feel free to censor that if you have to). I mean SERIOUS ASSHOLES!.
They could have designed their PBL to have FEC (forward error correction), but better yet, they could have designed it so that if a sig match fails, you STILL get download mode so you can reflash your phone.
Nooooo ...... they are super assholes, and if your phone fails a sig check then it is a brick.
What probably happened is that your NAND has some bad spots, and therefore the RSA signed firmware failed a signature check.
Due to the lawsuit, you can call LG and tell them you have a brick, and they will probably replace it.
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
LG are a bunch of assholes (mods feel free to censor that if you have to). I mean SERIOUS ASSHOLES!.
They could have designed their PBL to have FEC (forward error correction), but better yet, they could have designed it so that if a sig match fails, you STILL get download mode so you can reflash your phone.
Nooooo ...... they are super assholes, and if your phone fails a sig check then it is a brick.
What probably happened is that your NAND has some bad spots, and therefore the RSA signed firmware failed a signature check.
Due to the lawsuit, you can call LG and tell them you have a brick, and they will probably replace it.
-- Brian
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Lmao Brian
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I had this happen to a G3. Now I'm worried about the 3 V20s I own in my family. No more LG

Ms
I have the same issue. It died while I was using it. Ordered new battery and it still doesn't power up. I have a lot of pictures that I want to transfer to my new phone, but without a power I cannot transfer them to my new phone. Any ideas? Pls help

Malo757va said:
I have the same issue. It died while I was using it. Ordered new battery and it still doesn't power up. I have a lot of pictures that I want to transfer to my new phone, but without a power I cannot transfer them to my new phone. Any ideas? Pls help
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Well unless the pictures are on the external SD card, you're out of luck
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No signs of livin'
Same story happened last night , having my LG V20 for about 4 years , i only played music and some recordings plus social media through this device ..a few days ago i've seen some crashes and restarts maybe due to it's full storage (2 GB free) or using it continuously on charging mode . finally last night it gone completely dead and black! i've tried almost every solving video tips on you tube and some websites (also charging with and without the battery) the only major living sign was getting warm while chargin it without the battery!! any ideas?!

My v20 unfortunately did this same thing after replacing the screen, 60gb worth of important photos lost forever now.. GREAT.. Won't even warm up while plugged in, no vibrations, nothing. completely dead and i can't even get a voltage reading on the board anywhere except the battery terminals. as if the board's traces were cut from the battery. Only took a year on a used v20