This just come up in my mind.
The USB-C port is the only thing that I think the Xperia X needs to to have.
After checking the Xperia X teardown videos, we can see that the Micro-USB port on X is totally modular.
Here is the OEM part of this:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-charging-port-flex-for-sony-xperia-x
So is there any chance that we can mod this up to USB-C, with a few works on the bottom casing ?
The USB-C Charging port modular on XZ premium looks very alike, at least to me :|
Both of them use 20 pins connector
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-charging-port-for-sony-xperia-xz-premium
And the USB-C port modular of the X-compact is also very similar:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-charging-port-for-sony-xperia-x-compact
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This just come up in my mind.
The USB-C port is the only thing that I think the Xperia X needs to to have.
After checking the Xperia X teardown videos, we can see that the Micro-USB port on X is totally modular.
Here is the OEM part of this:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-charging-port-flex-for-sony-xperia-x
So is there any chance that we can mod this up to USB-C, with a few works on the bottom casing ?
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Hmmm... Sounds like a decent idea. I don't really love having to heat up the back of the phone to remove the cover, and possibly reapply adhesive for this, but hey, if it's beneficial, why not. I have no warranty to lose anyway.
Are you thinking of doing it? I guess the bottom part would require some modding for a bit more space to be done. (the triangular sides)
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Hmmm... Sounds like a decent idea. I don't really love having to heat up the back of the phone to remove the cover, and possibly reapply adhesive for this, but hey, if it's beneficial, why not. I have no warranty to lose anyway.
Are you thinking of doing it? I guess the bottom part would require some modding for a bit more space to be done. (the triangular sides)
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I'm thinking of doing this, after my warranty expire in 04/2018
According to this video, I think it's really possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntK_cytm1m8
robocopvn said:
I'm thinking of doing this, after my warranty expire in 04/2018
According to this video, I think it's really possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntK_cytm1m8
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I wondered about a few things I hope you can enlighten me.
1) How do we close the panel after removing it? Do I need to buy adhesive for it or is it reusable?
* I saw the video, turns out he replaces the adhesive, still wonder if its necessary
2) Is it possible to mod the phone by replacing some parts with the xperia X performance? I mean, they are very similar, and I wonder if you can for example change the battery or something like that. It sounds pretty risky though, since it wasn't designed for the model
will it work ? i want to do it too ^^
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I wondered about a few things I hope you can enlighten me.
1) How do we close the panel after removing it? Do I need to buy adhesive for it or is it reusable?
* I saw the video, turns out he replaces the adhesive, still wonder if its necessary
2) Is it possible to mod the phone by replacing some parts with the xperia X performance? I mean, they are very similar, and I wonder if you can for example change the battery or something like that. It sounds pretty risky though, since it wasn't designed for the model
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1/ In the past, all the Z lines-up will need to replace the adhesive, for one important reason, keep the dust/water resistance of the device. X doesn't have the official IP rating, so I don't really think we "have to" replace. However, in the process of taking things out and in, I think it's a better way of doing thing. Plus, the adhesive is dirt cheap.
2./ This is the off-topic question. And personally I don't think we really need to have the X performance battery, because they're not that difference and all the front - rear cameras, speakers v.v. is basically the same.
we love to have USB-C on the X
ggh95 said:
will it work ? i want to do it too ^^
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Can you try? I'm not a really good mechanic.
hmmm since i will have to Tear down Xperia X for installing usb modular....
how about replacing BATTERY also? 2300mAH is horrible battery life!
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1/ In the past, all the Z lines-up will need to replace the adhesive, for one important reason, keep the dust/water resistance of the device. X doesn't have the official IP rating, so I don't really think we "have to" replace. However, in the process of taking things out and in, I think it's a better way of doing thing. Plus, the adhesive is dirt cheap.
2./ This is the off-topic question. And personally I don't think we really need to have the X performance battery, because they're not that difference and all the front - rear cameras, speakers v.v. is basically the same.
we love to have USB-C on the X
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The adhesive costs 2.50 € here In my place.. yeah nothing I can't afford to have a usb c port
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hmmm since i will have to Tear down Xperia X for installing usb modular....
how about replacing BATTERY also? 2300mAH is horrible battery life!
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The adhesive costs 2.50 € here In my place.. yeah nothing I can't afford to have a usb c port
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Agreed I'm also thinking about battery butter I worry about compatibility and problems
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2700mah
YasuHamed said:
hmmm since i will have to Tear down Xperia X for installing usb modular....
how about replacing BATTERY also? 2300mAH is horrible battery life!
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You must be mistake of the Xperia XA.
Please check it:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7948&idPhone2=7949&idPhone3=7950
XA: 2300 mah
X: 2620mah
X per: 2700mah
I don't see any point we should take a risk for only 80mah increment
robocopvn said:
You must be mistake of the Xperia XA.
Please check it:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7948&idPhone2=7949&idPhone3=7950
XA: 2300 mah
X: 2620mah
X per: 2700mah
I don't see any point we should take a risk for only 80mah increment
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I think he means a completely different battery, which would be nearly impossible / dangerous /risky
FoxTheLegend said:
The adhesive costs 2.50 € here In my place.. yeah nothing I can't afford to have a usb c port
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Agreed I'm also thinking about battery butter I worry about compatibility and problems
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2700mah
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For the battery we can try it too like some people did for the s6 they used the battery of s7 edge and it worked...
But for the usb c i just have to change the charging port?
ggh95 said:
For the battery we can try it too like some people did for the s6 they used the battery of s7 edge and it worked...
But for the usb c i just have to change the charging port?
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No, you also need to mod a hotel the bottom plastic to make space. Nothing crazy. Other than that it sounds like a simple mod but I would want an expert to state an opinion
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No, you also need to mod a hotel the bottom plastic to make space. Nothing crazy. Other than that it sounds like a simple mod but I would want an expert to state an opinion
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yeah need a opinion too ^^
robocopvn said:
You must be mistake of the Xperia XA.
Please check it:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7948&idPhone2=7949&idPhone3=7950
XA: 2300 mah
X: 2620mah
X per: 2700mah
I don't see any point we should take a risk for only 80mah increment
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nevertheless i want battery 3400mah packed in xperia x
I have to cary powerbank 5000mah all the times! X drains out horribly!
any news???
ggh95 said:
any news???
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Not from me
Some true engineers needed here !
It's too early for us regular guys to risk it, and sadly I doubt a DIY pro would bother with the X. Patience I guess
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Does anyone have a link to get a Docking Station? keen for something i can just place my X5 onto.
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Does anyone have a link to get a Docking Station? keen for something i can just place my X5 onto.
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A docking station, like for a spaceship?
Kidding, some iphone ones work well enough.
Android-dock
They ship international too.
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A docking station, like for a spaceship?
Kidding, some iphone ones work well enough.
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Can you link some working ones? Thx
My brothers one for iPhone 3gs works nicely, not sure of branding or anything. But they're pretty standard.
Micro USB on a 30-pin 3GS dock? Or is it just a 'stand' without connection?
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Android-dock
They ship international too.
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come on it's cute
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Micro USB on a 30-pin 3GS dock? Or is it just a 'stand' without connection?
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That's the point. Maybe it can be clearified
I ve found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Car-Holder-...384063?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0a28c67f the seller says its for x5
One of the many reasons I wish manufacturers would've standardised on a MiniUSB connector instead of a MicroUSB connector, is the fact that the MiniUSB slots in effortlessly so is ideal for a docking station - the MicroUSB on the other hand is a pain in the backside to both slide in and slide out. Strangely, there's very little difference in the external size of the connector itself, so there's really no (as far as I can see) advantage in using MicroUSB.
That being said... Unless Huawei release their own U8800-specific dock or the 'phone itself becomes enormously popular, I doubt there'll ever be a proper dock available for it. By "proper" I mean one that you can just throw the 'phone at, and it'll (by virtue of the form-specific design) slot straight into its connector - this is the situation I have with the after-market dock I got for my HTC TouchPro.
It looks like that for the U8800, we'll have to make do with a "universal" dock. The one sebgus mentioned is about as good as it gets, but at around AUD$60 plus postage, it's a painful proposition for something which isn't even purpose-built.
By the looks of it, the Google Nexus One dock might fit the bill, but frankly I couldn't be bothered tracking down the dimensions (hey, it's nearly 2:30am here!). However... Even if the dimensions (width and thickness) of the 'phone were the same, there'd still be the U8800's ultra-curved end to consider - it may well slot into the dock perfectly but then want to overbalance to one side or the other. This however might be cured with some styrene wedged/glued into the corners to keep the 'phone upright?
The only other option would be to go the genuinely universal route, but then you're just getting a 'phone holder - and that's not what a dock's all about.
I'll do some more investigation into this thought tomorrow after I've had a few hours' sleep.
Edit: Bugger the sleep! Just looked up the dimensions, and it seems it might work...
U8800: 62mm (W) x 11.6mm (D)
Nexus One: 59.8mm (W) x 11.5mm (D)
Depending on the depth of the resting recess, the U8800's extra width may actually counteract its curved bottom edge.
Does anyone here have access to a shop which sells Nexus One docks, in which they can try to fit their U8800? They're cheap enough from eBay (around AUD$14), but it'd be far more prudent to try it out before parting with your cash.
The Nexus One docks wont fit, because the microUSB plug points in "wrong direction".
AliWam said:
The Nexus One docks wont fit, because the microUSB plug points in "wrong direction".
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Yep, just noticed that myself...
I wonder how "butcherable" they'd be, to allow the plug to be re-mounted the other way 'round?
HTC Sensation
Oddly enough, the HTC Sensation dock works fine, my dad has one and every now and then I slip my phone into it. It's not a flush fit, but it does the job
Have anyone tried a docking station? Is it working good?
i want to make it by myself but i need someone who makes silicone form and then mold it with plastic.
Sent from my u8800 using xda premium
Found a Docking Station for the X3 on ebay h__p://xxx.ebay.de/itm/USB-Dockingstation-Ladestation-Huawei-Ideos-X3-U8510-/170720897957
But the X3 is a little bit smaller, so the X5 may not fit in /
Philips AS111/37 Fidelio Docking Speaker for Android is a nice universal solution...
wolfgr said:
Philips AS111/37 Fidelio Docking Speaker for Android is a nice universal solution...
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It's ugly and expensive.
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Just bougth this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/160652073307
If you need a quick dock solution without charging you can use the case from an old mini DV tape case.
Just open up the case, the X5 fits pretty well. If you're brave enough you might even try gluing a charging cable on the bottom, I tried but the super glue didn't really hold well.
I think, only docking station is your computer
You can play music, and watch videos with this dock
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Thank you Silent_Fang i did your solution. Yes, i confirm that it's perfectly fit to phone.
And i have a new idea for that : make a hole, bottom of cassette case for usb connecting...
Looks like it is totally unrepairable, even by HTC
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494/1
this simply will build even more admiration for the device
i want it even more now :laugh:
Also i think they have missed the point of simply removing the speaker cover to start the process
Simply put, it's crazy...
despite the score, the article is full of praise for the craftsmanship!
HTC has said over and over that they wanted to create a seamless product, and the absence of any exterior screws is a testament to that.
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Our diligent spudgering appears to have permanently mangled the plastic bezel surrounding the aluminum case. It's possible that prying at a snail's pace while applying heat could minimize this damage, but we're not too hopeful. This phone was not made with open-ability in mind.
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The motherboard of the HTC One is pretty much encapsulated within copper shielding. Two flat pieces of copper adorn each side of the motherboard.
Here's the thing about copper shielding. It dissipates heat and provides electrical grounding. However, copper shielding is a pain to deal with during reassembly—kind of like trying to straighten out aluminum foil once it's been crinkled.
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The HTC One's 1080P, 468 ppi resolution rivals today's HDTVs and the 10.6" Surface Pro, but in a 4.7" size.
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There is no respite for the weary—even the rear camera is coated in copper shielding.
This is the HTC UltraPixel camera, a f/2.0 aperture, 28 mm lens unit with a dedicated HTC ImageChip™ 2.
It is not surprising to hear HTC bragging about camera specs, as their apparent Siri counter-marketing is Zoe, your personal photo assistant.
Manufacturing such a small camera that can do so much is a hefty task, and a shortage of these units is a big reason why HTC has had to delay the official launch.
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The daughterboard remains, but there is still a mystery left unsolved.
No phone operates without antennas, and antennas don't transmit signals well through metal walls. Considering that this daughterboard is on the receiving end of the motherboard's antenna cables and sits directly under the plastic bezel at the top of the phone, we're thinking it has something to do with wireless signals.
See those three spring contacts along the top of the board? They meet the rear case in an area obscured by the plastic bezel. If we had to guess, that's where HTC put the antennas.
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HTC One Repairability Score: One out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)
Very, very difficult (possibly impossible?) to open the device without damaging the rear case. This makes every component extremely difficult to replace.
The battery is buried beneath the motherboard and adhered to the midframe, hindering its replacement.
The display assembly cannot be replaced without removing the rear case—this will make the most common repair, a damaged screen, nearly impossible.
Copper shielding on many components is difficult to remove and replace.
Solid external construction improves durability.
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Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/28/ifixit-breaks-open-an-htc-one/
Slashgear: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-teardown-proves-durability-a-top-priority-28275687/
yup still positive
If you were looking for the HTC One to be a device you were easily able to take apart for inner-bits replacement, you might not be all that pleased with the report appearing today. On the other hand, if you love it when iFixit gives a big shout out to the device you’re looking to buy for its immense durability, the HTC One might be the phone for you. It’s not going to be a device you’ll be popping open on accident, that’s for sure.
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With the release of the HTC One, the manufacturer has bet a whole lot on the hardware as a proving point in their history. With this release, the company known as HTC says that they’ve done the best they’re able at the moment – this is the HTC One, and it’s named that for a reason. According to iFixit, this device is just about the most difficult smartphone to tear apart they’ve come across – but that’s not all bad news for you if you’re a general consumer.
The HTC One does not have a removable battery, nor is it able to take a microSD card. It’s got a body that’s made from one solid block of machined aluminum with a lovely pane of reinforced glass up front. A collection of awesomely odd bits and pieces can be found in the teardown, including this fun selection:
• Elpida BA164B1PF 2 GB DDR2 RAM
• Samsung KLMBG4GE2A 32 GB NAND flash memory
• Synaptics S32028 chip
• Cable for display labeled with DATE: 2012.11.30
That last bit proves that there’ve been bits and pieces of this device ready to rock for several months now – the back casing of the device can be seen to carry the date 2013/02/15, indicating that some of the parts have been added as recently as the middle of February (for this unit, anyway.)
Have a peek at the timeline we’ve got below of fabulous HTC One bits and pieces, and don’t forget to check out our full HTC One review as well. This is a device that’s set to either be a skyrocket-ready spaceship to the moon for HTC, or one of the biggest disappointments for the company in their history – if it doesn’t sell, that is. Have a peek at our full run-down now!
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Considering its sleek, primarily aluminum construction we never thought the HTC One was going be easy to crack open.
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hamdir said:
If you really intend negativity from your post
i dont think you have succeeded, this simply will build even more admiration for the device
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Not at all, simply a statement of fact. If you send 'one' to HTC for a warranty repair it looks likely that you will get a new unit back.
packetlos said:
Not at all, simply a statement of fact. If you send 'one' to HTC for a warranty repair it looks likely that you will get a new unit back.
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yes jsut crazy but again
i feel they were too intimidated and simply failed to figure out how to open it
ie: speaker covers
hamdir said:
If you really intend negativity from your post
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The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
the article is full of praise for the craftsmanship!
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Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
we already know the device can be opened from its speaker, so i dont know what were they smoking
and i didnt say iFixit is implying negativity, i was asking the poster if this is his intention, relax lol
have a look at the drop down test it will answer few questions
if iFixit is true and its not a fixable device, than HTC intend not to fix them at all and simply replace it
but like i said i think it has a way to open form the covers
hamdir said:
So really i dont know what to say? are you in full intentions to simply spoil the fun of HTC owners?
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Huh? Kind of shooting the messenger, no? Since the One's unibody was first shown off I've been curious about how it's held together because it's a very unsual design no matter who built it. Drop tests and tear downs give a lot of insight in to questions I'm sure I'm not alone in having. Sorry if the answer's aren't "fun" and I have nothing to do with the outcome of any tests the One or any other device are subjected to. I'd be just as shocked if another brand's device had a repairibility score of "1." And as I said in another thread, devices get the forum's they deserve. If once in people's hands the One is a "happy" device that's what the forum will reflect. After a year of sticking your fingers in the holes in the dyke that was the One X forum you should know that by now.
And "aluminum" as a material isn't what determines repairibility it's engineering and design focused on facilitating it to keep repair costs down. Here's how the "other" aluminum phone did.
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If once in people's hands the One is a "happy" device that's what the forum will reflect. After a year of sticking your fingers in the holes in the dyke that was the One X forum you should know that by now.]
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One X owners are happy, go ask in their thread
the one x been flying and great device every since the software issues were fixed with the 2.17 update and defects cleared TWO MONTHS after release
you are in fact extremely patronizing and insulting
comparing to the iPhone is useless if the device like claimed by iFixit was not intended to be repaired!
hamdir, do u have any idea how to remove the speaker covers? ifixit looked like they butchered the phone with an axe, there must be another way to have a simpler break down
BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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hamdir, do u have any idea how to remove the speaker covers? ifixit looked like they butchered the phone with an axe, there must be another way to have a simpler break down
BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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yes the speaker covers are currently falling out on their own in defected units and in drop test its flying easily, so really they didnt need to butcher it like this
they acted under the impression that the entire device is uni body and hence started with the screen, if you notice all the way through the tear down they never removed the speakers
its all hilarious really
Yea i noticed them saying the zero gap phone had a gap when they removed the screen. As far as I am aware the zero gap is to do with the back of the phone and the plastic surround after watching htc's video on how it's built.
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The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
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The plastic sides look similar to pvc cladding without the "gel"? Coat, ie look at the endgrain of the cladding strip.
Chipworks didn't seem to have near as much trouble with their teardown.
http://www.chipworks.com/blog/recentteardowns/2013/03/28/inside-the-htc-one/
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Hamdir: Do you have the proper disassembly guide then? As it is, this will be impossible to take apart to replace the battery or screen.
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BTW ifixit said it was all "A"s after the back was removed, meaning removing the backplate was the hardest part
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If you look at the pictures for that quote, you will see that they are talking about the QC from the factory who had written all over the interior of the case. Your meaning, while probably true, isn't what they meant.
BarryH_GEG said:
The negativity is implied based on a one out of 10 repairability score. How much do you think it's going to cost to repair/replace a display out of warranty? Or replace a unibody damaged in a fall? Ifixit could give a crap about one manufacturer over another so they have no bias in their reporting. What they are reporting is that the One will be a very expensive phone to repair based on its design. No matter how much the following is true.
Meanwhile, what do you think the sides are made of based on this? It looks like some type of trim applied to the unibodyfor it to bend that way.
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I like how HTC has tried to make the One more sturdy for customers. However, I doubted how the production can make a large amount of aluminum body, and now I'm sure it's even harder with this kind of assembling. Not very good idea for production
Gotta think about this one
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I like how HTC has tried to make the One more sturdy for customers. However, I doubted how the production can make a large amount of aluminum body, and now I'm sure it's even harder with this kind of assembling. Not very good idea for production
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Chipworks didn't say anything about the level of difficulty with dissembling. Nothing I saw anyways. This puts a little doubt in my mind looking down the road a couple of years. In 2-3 years it will be time to replace the battery...then what? WE HAVE SOME GREAT LOCAL REPAIR GUYS, BUT WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO REPLACE THE BATTERY WITHOUT WRECKING THE PHONE? Good question huh? How much would a 2-3 year old HTC ONE be worth, if anyone were to consider buying a used ONE?
My current phone, an ATRIX 4G, now 3 years old, had a couple of problems last year. The volume rocker mechanism broke and had to be replaced. I'm also not on the original battery. I have 3 spare batteries just in case. Carrying around a small 10,000mah charger from Ebay
(for $24.95) is an option. But really if something goes wrong with the phone (out of warranty) you may just have to buy a new phone. This means that you cannot count on any trade in value on the phone. If you can live with that, OK. But you still need insurance in case there is a problem along the way.
Just food for thought guys.
This is great! This confirmed my speculation that HTC is just using a single modem for Asia, EU and all other variants of the HTC One! Thanks to the MDM9215M chipset it has!
What it means is
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
is only 1 single phone.
So yeah we could cross flash basebands to unlock certain bands. US carriers could purchase the HTC One from Europe then when S-Off is already available they could just flash a baseband of the US model then they should have LTE instantly. Or better yet it's already a world phone by default. Since they are using the same modem chipset with the likes of Xperia Z & ZL.
Lol, to me that only means "don't try it at home":good:
OK my short review from having the LG G4 for 6 days now! Just as background, I luckily got the phone through a workmate i know in South Korea so the one i have is the South Korean model. Also, the South Korean version gives you something that is a bloody lifesaver and just so useful and you wish you'd always had one: an extra battery. More on that later.
So I have been using the Nexus 6 since launch and love it. To me at least it's been great – big screen, big development on XDA (I love custom roms/kernels and flashing in general) and over all a phone that i have loved. The only issues i have had really are: the screen is ok but could be better, the camera is ok and could be better and it is heavy and hefty so I use it one-handed but only just. It's a monster!
So last few months have been looking for something not quite as big with a better camera and better screen. I tried both the S6 and S6 Edge and sold them within a few days. Mostly because i think they are just too small and poky or something. S6 Edge was too sharp for me.
Along comes the G4! And if you don't want to read the boring detail below then in short: I love it and haven't really seen any faults at all.
Boring Detail:
Battery:
Here's a tricky one as i have always had decent battery on all phones i get. And all i do is read the same thing over and again on battery threads everywhere: 'i get only 2 hours Screen on Time help!' and then 'i get 7 hours Screen on Time and i'm amazing!'. The problem is the same: every person's usage pattern and apps and mobile reception is different so this all accounts for differing Screen on Time. So – FOR ME – i am getting consistently around 5 to 5.5 hours Screen on Time which is perfectly fine. So i reckon on MOST of the current flag ships you'd be getting pretty similar SOT.
However the one big bloody glaring thing about the South Korean model is that extra battery and that right there should solve pretty much ALL battery issues. So I just have the extra battery in the charging case attached to a USB cable on my computer. If I have gotten low on a day where i have the used phone a lot then 38 seconds later i have swapped batteries for the new 100% one! How good is that! Do yourself a favour and get a spare battery! No doubt they will be available shortly.
Two things that reviews are singling out as ‘cons’ which I think is just silly.
Wireless charging. I love wireless charging and until you use it a lot you don’t realise how convenient it is. I also have two Tylt Vu chargers and they are expensive so i want a device that uses wireless charging! Ok so the G4 has wireless charging CAPABILITY meaning that you need a different back than the one that comes with it and it will work.
Already LG has said that the G4 circle case will have that. So all I will be doing is waiting for the inevitable Shenzen rip off sticker that you stick inside your case that gives me wireless charging. I will give it 4 weeks max before they are on Ebay for $5.
Quick charging. There’s this boring debate that the G4 did not include Quick Charging 2.0 even though Qualcom have it in their chip. Big deal! What you do get is the 1.8 Quick Charge which isn’t quite as good but is still perfectly acceptable! In my testing it charges a bit over 1% per minute. Which is just fine.
Feel:
Sorry about the pretentious term ‘feel’ but it’s the best way of describing a major kick ass thing this phone has! It is just the BEST weight, feel and hold of any phone i’ve owned. It’s not light, it’s not heavy. It’s not small and it’s not phablety big. It is juuuuuuuust right. Dunno what it exactly is – maybe the slight bend? But it’s great.
Leather. I would never in a squillion years think i would own a leather phone or that the leather would work. But it does. Looks good, feels great, is great. Photos do not do it justice. I got the black weather which i love but if i was to buy it again the brown/tan i think could be the pick. If you get the plastic to save a few bucks then, um, don’t!
Camera:
Not going to go into detail because every review already has and i am not a manual camera person. I am Mr Point and Shoot. Suffice to say it takes very good photos. Had it over the weekend at Adelaide with relatives and photos turned out great.
Lag/Stutter/UI Blah:
Ok so on EVERY phone i own i remove the stock launcher and install an aftermarket one because guess why? They’re better. Don’t understand why people cry about the OEM launcher when the aftermarket ones are installed within 16 seconds and are better anyway.
Stutter/lag – again this is another topic that i don’t understand. I really haven’t had a phone that suffered at all from this. I ALWAYS change the animation three options to 0.5 in Developer Options and this often is more than enough. Don’t need to be rooted and takes 14 seconds – why wouldn’t you do it? In general though, i have not had stutter or lag in this phone at all.
The Knock Code to turn on screen. Sorry but every phone that doesn’t have this should get that as a ‘con’. It is just soooo convenient. Love it.
Notification shade works well. Lots of options, lots of shortcuts to choose.
Notification light – a no brainer and dunno why the Nexus 6 didn’t have it and i had to install a custom ROM to get it. It works and works fine.
Ability to change nav bar buttons around and add a couple more. Love this as i always like my back button on the right not the left.
These little customisations are what really makes the UI i think. So handy.
Display:
Great. Bright and similar when i had the S6 as a stand out. Reviews have covered it pretty well too – is an excellent colourful display. LG got it right.
Sound:
Decent! I just don’t use my phone to listen to stuff except for headphones but is loud and ok. Not as good as HTC but good for a phone.
Weird big bloody LCD density:
Here’s a weird thing which no review has mentioned which is the only thing that really annoyed me: the density is 620! Meaning that things are huge! Everything looked like a huge fonted behemoth! And without root i wasn’t able to use the easy way of changing the density via build.prop and eventually had to do it via hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.
Overall:
Found a phone that for me at least satisfied most of what i want in a phone very well. And i haven’t even missed using a custom rom because you can’t root it yet! Never thought i’d say that. So once everyone has it in a month then hopefully development will mean it is even better!
Oh and get the effin leather purlease!!
Thank you for this nice review! Really appreciate it
That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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Yes the speaker is definitely loud. It is on the back of the phone though and is just one speaker. I wouldn't say quality is great but definitely loud.
Yes so weird about the LCD density! But yeah if you like big text then all good.
Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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legend221 said:
Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
poczynek said:
Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
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This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Ok just took a photo
legend221 said:
This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Ok just took a photo
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Oh right sorry yes wasn't understanding what you were saying as driving and reading.
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Great thanks.. IF the opportunity arises, it would be cool to see a before and after photo of your text size density.
Can the G4 turn Chrome into a free floating window?
Great review, very informative.
I passed on the G3 after really liking the G2 mostly due to the locked BL. I hope LG provides the ability to unlock it this time around like Sony and HTC do.
Or someone here cracks it much faster than it happened on the G3 which took what seemed like forever.
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Thanks for the link. Do the dock and lock screen icons work on stock launcher using this method. On the G3 they didn't scale correctly?
What buttons can you change/add to the nav bar? Can you add a menu button?
Is there any sign of the lollipop memory leak?
Hello everyone!
I have looked in both Amazon and eBay and can't seem to find this but do you guys know if there is a battery bank case out there to add more battery on our phones? I have regular battery banks but sometimes it is just more convenient to have a battery that is attached to your phone. If not I think I might just need to get some velcro and a slim battery bank.
Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
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ZeroVirus said:
can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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strongst said:
He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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What strongst said. Below are the parts that you see in the picture. I can't put links yet I don't think.
Case: Incipio DualPro Case [will work with any case or even without one really]
Battery Bank: RAVPower 6700mah Palm Sized Portable Charger Power Bank (2.4A Output & 2A Input, iSmart 2.0 Technology) [I like this one because it provides faster charging which works for our phones and also is a nice handle with this velcro tape]
Velcro tape: Can be bought anywhere, I used the fuzzy side on the phone and the prickly side on the battery bank just because I hold the phone more.
@strongst - Thanks! Yes it does and people look at me weird when I use it. But when I am getting over 2 days battery life and 8-10 hours playing Pokemon Go! I can't complain.
If there is a manufacturer that is willing to make a decent battery case for us I will probably be one of the first ones to jump on it. I have one for my work phone and I don't mind the added weight it brings because I get decent added battery life on it. But I think with budget phones like ours chances are low that someone like ZeroLemon will make one for us.
Opps just broke charge port trying to carry this in pocket.
Easier to get a spare phone on another network than these idiot anker cases. I will be looking hard for a swapping battery phone next time. In safe mode I can only get 1/2 a work day. Which is about 14 to 15 hours.
Have you seen the internal components of this great cell phone? They are of an extremely low quality compared to their younger siblings.
It was already known that Leeco did not go very well financially, but with this terminal have given a huge setback as internal components (pcb ....)
http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/leeco-le-pro-3-teardown/
Snap 820?
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Snap 820?
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No. I mean pcb electronic components. The pcb is seen at first sight that is of dubious quality.
what did you expected from a 300 dlls phone?
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what did you expected from a 300 dlls phone?
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At least the quality of its old versions.
See:
https://youtu.be/qqqDjdc_iiE
https://youtu.be/qAE5TO_MH7w
https://youtu.be/LdsVkdoNYzM
And are worth much less.
I mean, that Snap 820 except 821 was listed... Same tagged?
Nothing I can see appears to be poor quality. Maybe Dave Jones needs to get one to tear down and give his professional opinion on it?
Just to see this to deduce the quality of the components and installation of them.
https://s18.postimg.org/p2r0uw8ix/board.jpg
Taker59 said:
Have you seen the internal components of this great cell phone? They are of an extremely low quality compared to their younger siblings.
It was already known that Leeco did not go very well financially, but with this terminal have given a huge setback as internal components (pcb ....)
http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/leeco-le-pro-3-teardown/
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What is very low there? The specs exceeded even the Pixel phone and the performance and battery are unprecedented, even faster than OP3T.
For $399 (as low as $250 or $299 during sale event), this is the phone to beat in performance/price ratio.
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What is very low there? The specs exceeded even the Pixel phone and the performance and battery are unprecedented, even faster than OP3T.
For $399 (as low as $250 or $299 during sale event), this is the phone to beat in performance/price ratio.
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I do not say that it is a bad phone, it is the best or one of the best in features. What I mean is that they are very badly assembled all its internal components, in addition to its components that could have been better chosen in their assembly on motherboard . In this model if they have lowered production costs and is clearly seen in the image that I uploaded previously.
Look at the quality of assembly in its old versions. Videos uploaded in previous posts.
There is no comparison possible.
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Look at the quality of assembly in its old versions. Videos uploaded in previous posts.
There is no comparison possible.
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Can you give an explanation of what you're looking for when you're looking for quality of assembly? Why did you circle the vibration motor solder joint? The green PCB is a bit drab looking, but the color of the PCB is not an indicator of it's quality.
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Can you give an explanation of what you're looking for when you're looking for quality of assembly? Why did you circle the vibration motor solder joint? The green PCB is a bit drab looking, but the color of the PCB is not an indicator of it's quality.
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I find it a bit bad to leave this way the vibration engine. I have worked with many phones and I can assure you that I have never seen this on a mid-range or low-range phone. I can assure you that in a few months of use, those bad Soldering will be released from the pcb and is more, I am convinced that this model "pro 3" have not assembled the same assemblers as in previous models. I am unaware of this issue, lack of money or new assembler?
" I can assure you that in a few months of use, those bad Soldering will be released from the pcb"
So let's talk again in a few months. Maybe it turns out you are absolutely right. Maybe it turns out you are just a lamer. At the moment, we cannot verify the accuracy of your statements and that's why we are a bit sceptical.
he is from xiaomi or one plus
I fail to see the problem. Like many people said, it should not be the color of the PCB. It should not be the SD 821 chip. It should not be the 6 GB ram. Machine body. Hmm no. Yep this dude is from Xiaomi/One Plus xD /s
If you know **** about the OEM ODM in this business
Please don't put such title in your post. Dude, the assembler is one of the largest company in the world that can compete with foxconn.
The circuit definitely needs some organizing but it's doesn't mean it cheap. It has all the same components as other top tier phones. And no way those solder joints will come off unless you put your phone in the oven.
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Look at the quality of assembly in its old versions. Videos uploaded in previous posts.
There is no comparison possible.
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there is no indication of low quality of components....
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Have you seen the internal components of this great cell phone? They are of an extremely low quality compared to their younger siblings.
It was already known that Leeco did not go very well financially, but with this terminal have given a huge setback as internal components (pcb ....)
http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/leeco-le-pro-3-teardown/
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are you from xiaomi? or other competitors?
This is hilarious indeed. Judging the electronics quality by the color of the PCB ?!? That is also not even from personal inspection, from some low resolution pictures. :laugh: