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htc rafael 2400 or mugen 3000 battery for fuze?

The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?

Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.

Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.

Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.

IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.

I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)

The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.

Otterbox
dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?

Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.

Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.

I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?

New Mugen cover
sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.

sanjsrik said:
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle

Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.

Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.

BPB21 said:
How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.

Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...

dpcole72 said:
I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.

sanjsrik said:
A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4

Touch Pro Case charger

Hey guys, I've googled this and had no luck. A friend of mine has purchased what I think is an ingenious little accessory. Essentially it is a snap on belt case/cradle for his phone with a battery attached to it. You pop the blackberry into the cradle/case (and it's about not obscenely large) and it charges the blackberry. At the end of the day, you take it home and charge the cradle)
I think this is an awesome alternative to having a huge battery attached to a phone. I would LOVE to have something like this for the touch pro, however have had no luck finding it.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has come across something similar for the TP.

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Hey guys, I've googled this and had no luck. A friend of mine has purchased what I think is an ingenious little accessory. Essentially it is a snap on belt case/cradle for his phone with a battery attached to it. You pop the blackberry into the cradle/case (and it's about not obscenely large) and it charges the blackberry. At the end of the day, you take it home and charge the cradle)
I think this is an awesome alternative to having a huge battery attached to a phone. I would LOVE to have something like this for the touch pro, however have had no luck finding it.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has come across something similar for the TP.
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Could you make something like this with a mintyboost, penlight batteries (or button cells or a nine volt radio battery!) and an existing case? A thing like that is on my TODO list as soon as I get a round tuit. All my existing tuits are triangular.
Edit: The mintyboost thing could go in one of my fannypack pockets with a cable going to the phone. How much do a few rechargable penlight batteries weigh? Nothing.
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
Edit: And here's a rechargable version http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-solar-iPodiPhone-charger-aka-Might
Bigger and bulkier, yes but would still be fannypackable <--IS THAT A WORD???

This would be very cool

Try this. A batterypack with a built-in charger
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-050/The+Ultimate+Charger.html
or one of these.
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-59336/Sprint+Touch+Pro+Solar+Panel+Charger.html

Bigger Batteries

Are there bigger batteries that I can currently buy for the device?
Something which will extend my battery (by a significant amount)?
If so, I'd appreciate if you could link me where to buy one / the name of the battery.
If not, I assume companies will start making them soon, so is there any information about that?

Samsung has made this one: http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-power-pack-extended-battery
That gives you a total of 2950mAh. Looks like it's coming out in june or thereabouts.
Buying 3rd party extended batteries can be ok, but they always have much lower capacity than what they claim on their websites.

But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?

matanc1 said:
But doesn't an extended battery mean that it's a case with a battery?
Aren't there going to be any battery replacements that will give you more battery life?
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Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.

SBS_ said:
Not without making the phone thicker, which is exactly what this is doing, while at the same time giving you the option to shed that weight and just use the standard battery when needed.
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Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?

matanc1 said:
Wouldn't it just be easier holding a spare 1650 mAh battery then?
or an external one to charge the 1650mAh that doesn't make it thicker? one that has over 1300mAh?
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That depends entierly on what you want . For me I think the best option would be to have a clip-on battery case that I use if I'm going to be extended periods away from a power socket. For you maybe it's better to have a spare battery, I don't know.

Battery is that small on SGS 1 i kept a spare in pocket .
Waiting for cheap genuine Samsung SGS 2 battery now .
jje

The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000

Moandal said:
The two options that sound best to me are:
1) Spare battery
2) http://www.clove.co.uk/proporta-usb-turbocharger-5000
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Neither of those options appeal to me.
I dont want to be carrying extra separate items with me, it adds bulk and then there's the hassle of having to physically change the battery, and keep two charged.
At least with the extended batteries, your only changing the one thing, and sure it makes the phone thicker, but it also serves as a protective case.

The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.

I cant speak for everyone but i get great battery life. 2x the battery of my vibrant, I can get a 1 1/2 days easily before it actually dies.
I am interested to see what extended batteries will look like. I think powerskins will make a great battery whenever that happens.
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The option that sounds best to me is for Samsung to get their F***ing heads out of their F***ing asses and make the phone 2 moth******ing millimeters thicker so we can get decent battery life!!! I mean seriously, who needs a phone to be this thin??
Ya it's cool to be thin but can I just have a $700 phone that I can use without being neurotic about power settings? Oh ya, and 2mm would have been just enough so that my phone is not resting on the very fragile camera lens every time I put it down.
In every other aspect I'm in love with this phone but you have to be a complete bonehead to make that call on the battery.
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Looking for extended life battery

Any recommendations? Mine's almost 2 years old and its showing, having trouble making it through the day. Not interested inhaving to deal with a spare! I know there are a lot of these threads, but just wanted to make my own. I intend to buy one and then report my progress with it. I heard those EVO chichitech batteries were good but didn't fit well?
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I use the the Mugen Power 3600mAh. The battery lasts long, how long I don't know exactly. I usually charge the phone every other day.
My guess is that 4 days would be OK before charging. I use a lot of 3G and wireless for surfing the Internet. Email, calendar of course.
The battery cover is made of rather cheap plastic and I was worried the hinges would break of as they did on my previous battery which was some other manufacturer (2700mAh?). This hasn't happened, seems like the cover is sturdy enough but could be made of much better material considering the price.
I recommend this battery.

Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?

captainreynolds said:
Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?
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I recommend the HTC OEM EVO 4G Design battery, It fits perfect in our devices w/o any modifying or trimming. It's a whopping 1520mah compared to the 1300mah that comes with stock devices !
http://www.shopandroid.com/htc-1520mah-standard-battery/8A37A9232.htm

captainreynolds said:
Thanks! Anyone have a recommendation for one that fits in the stock battery door?
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1900mah and $6 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380371704839?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Mophie juice case coming!!!

The AT&T video for the HTC One shows a Mophie Juice case!!! Haleluyah. Hopefully it will come shortly after device intro...I think it took something like 5 months for their iPhone 5 case but that was due to the Lightning port....

mickliq said:
The AT&T video for the HTC One shows a Mophie Juice case!!! Haleluyah. Hopefully it will come shortly after device intro...I think it took something like 5 months for their iPhone 5 case but that was due to the Lightning port....
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Saw that earlier. Its nice and all but I don't want the added bulk. Wayyyyyy to large to deal with all the time. Much rather carry around a separate battery pack I can plug my phone in to and charge.

I like having the battery case option. I haven't loved the separate battery pack for my One X+...inevitably it doesn't get charged when I need it. With a battery case, you charge both the phone and the battery case, especially when you travel.

mickliq said:
I like having the battery case option. I haven't loved the separate battery pack for my One X+...inevitably it doesn't get charged when I need it. With a battery case, you charge both the phone and the battery case, especially when you travel.
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Useful but I don't think the increase in size justifies the ability to keep your device charged. Those things are massive. Didn't buy a slim phone to triple its size and weight.

True about adding size/weight but for people that are going on trips or will be away from juice for a while it will be worth the money. I have a New Trent 7100mah brick that can be used but sometimes it's easier to have a Mophie instead. I used Mophie on my iPhone 3g and iPhone 4. They saved my ass a few times. *IF* I but a HTC One (waiting for the 64gb unlocked dev version before I decide), I'll be picking up a Mophie. Maybe not as a every day carry item but for those times when I know juice won't be available otherwise such as plane trips.

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True about adding size/weight but for people that are going on trips or will be away from juice for a while it will be worth the money. I have a New Trent 7100mah brick that can be used but sometimes it's easier to have a Mophie instead. I used Mophie on my iPhone 3g and iPhone 4. They saved my ass a few times. *IF* I but a HTC One (waiting for the 64gb unlocked dev version before I decide), I'll be picking up a Mophie. Maybe not as a every day carry item but for those times when I know juice won't be available otherwise such as plane trips.
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I can see it being useful for long trips and not always using it but id feel like its a waste of money. I'd rather have a brick and be able to charge multiple things for a cheaper price. Some of them aren't even that big.

They better have designed it properly... It can't cover the top or bottom metal pieces on the back or it will trash reception. All the metal in the battery will block radio waves.

Actually, no matter what this case will hurt reception. NFC will probably get weaker as a result...

I agree with the skinny talk. I can't stand adding bulk to a phone, and I know this particular phone will be just way too svelte to cover it up. I'm planning to get one of those external battery pack/chargers. It can live in my daypack while the phone rides in my pocket.
I'm ordering mine tomorrow from AT&T and I still haven't decided which color... it's black, it's silver, it's black, it's silver garrrgghhh
even flipping a coin won't work... it's heads, it's tails, it's heads, it's tails>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

bosotros said:
I agree with the skinny talk. I can't stand adding bulk to a phone, and I know this particular phone will be just way too svelte to cover it up. I'm planning to get one of those external battery pack/chargers. It can live in my daypack while the phone rides in my pocket.
I'm ordering mine tomorrow from AT&T and I still haven't decided which color... it's black, it's silver, it's black, it's silver garrrgghhh
even flipping a coin won't work... it's heads, it's tails, it's heads, it's tails>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Get black, it's much sexier!

Sort of defeats the design of the phone doesn't it?