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The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.
Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.
Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.
IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.
I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?
Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.
Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle
Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.
Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4
I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.
Case-mates are awesome, I got the tough case for my Nexus, and it rocks.
The screen protection that it comes with is also great and very invisible / fingerprint resistant.
After I got it, I finally didn't feel like I was holding a fragile egg in my hands when handling my phone
Congrats on the purchase!
For the tint, i didnt seem to have that problem, but there are no guarantees that you wont get them as well, but more and more are reporting that it hasnt been a problem.
I wanted to get a gel case, but i opted out for the zagg invisible shield full body (minus the screen, i bought a regualr screen protector off ebay), had it pro installed at the zagg kiosk and couldnt be happier. And I am a little worried about droppping it, but i should be fine.
I debated on that as well. But after 5 days of playing with the phone and everything seems to be working fine, so i rooted and installed a custom rom! REALLY happy with the decision! cyanogen 5053 rom kicks a$$! and also running at 250 MB free RAM!
As for regrets, none whatsoever. Because now i still have my upgrade availabilty, so any new phones coming out this summer that i would actually like to buy, i can get at discount price. And plus, I sold my 3gs to buy the n1 so almost an even trade. About $60 out of my pockets to get the n1, so im happy with it!
izmar said:
I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.
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Dude, best phone I ever had. No purple tint on mine. Yeah, there are some issues to be addressed by google, like adding copy to emails and adding repeating reminders.. but nothing major.
Overall it's 98% AWESOME, 1% kinda weird, 1% needs fixing.
Other phones? Like Supersonic? Way too big, and Sprint-only. Desire? Meh, imo, it's worse than N1. You trade finger sensor fingy for dual noise-cancelling mics.. I take the mics any day.
Oh, dude... make sure you condition your battery on first charge.. seriously, when you get it, hold your horses, let it charge with PHONE OFF for 12 hours. It'll go a loooong way towards your battery life, especially first month or so. Just set it to charge as soon as you get it and don't touch it for 12 hours.
Regarding the case.. I recommend using a belt-clip case. It covers the phone fully, it's only on when you're not using the phone (so you can enjoy your "naked" N1), and phone is always out of harms way on your waist. Imo, that's the best option.
I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.
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I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.
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That was another buying point for me too, resellability! I bet I could sell this for $400 in a year, if it's in nearly mint condition... Depending on how fast phones get in the next year.
I had a tough time deciding between the gelli case and the tough case. I decided the tough case would be too bulky, as I like feeling the slimness of the phone. I remember when I first got a case for my iphone, I had it on for months straight, then it ripped, and I had it without a case. What a difference! So I'm hoping the gelli case will be a good thin fit.
As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
Update -
Shipping
Apr 15, 2010 3:27 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Apr 15, 2010 3:12 PM
Left FedEx origin facility
PLAINFIELD, IN
Apr 15, 2010 7:49 AM
Shipment information sent to FedEx
Apr 15, 2010 8:12 AM
Picked up
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
So it went from indianapolis to plainfield, back to indianapolis haha.
What time during the day did you all receive your phones?
izmar said:
As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.
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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.
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How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?
Read the battery threads in Q&A for some unbiased information about batteries, intial charging strategy, etc. I just got mine day before last. No purple tint whatsoever at any brightness. I do have the screen calibration where it wont accept presses or they are misplaced, a quick sleep/wake fixes it and it only happens on the odd occasion so I havent worked up much of a care over it. Multi touch has the cross axis issue and that seems to hit me with pinch zooming but its easy to work around by not pinching too close together. Still, if ya gotta work around it its an issue in my mind and the way I read it software will never fully address it. Since I actually prefer to one hand and use the magnifying glasses this doesnt affect me. I only play puzzle games so cant comment on multi issues there. I have no issues with 3G/edge cycling and I am in a borderline 3G area.
Other trivia... I have never had a phone pick up gps lock so fast. I find the keyboard acceptable but it could be better. I have not changed it because I like to use a phone for a week or so and get a good feel for the stock firmware before I start swapping things out. Outlook support would have to get better to suck. I think the screen looks great outside of the reds which have some bloom. The camera takes half decent pictures with little effort at the default automatic settings. This is all I need so cant comment on what a photographer type might get out of it with fiddling. The trackball comes in handy when you want to edit text. Much easier than trying to get a fingernail in exactly the right spot. Accessories are not easy to find on the ground, had to hit amazon.
Bottom line after 48 hours of ownership. This is a great phone with no major weaknesses outside of the outlook support. Its a pleasure to use and I have no regrets about making this purchase. My wife is starting to make noises and I would not be surprised if there are soon two of these in the house. I think your going to be happy.
lol check my thread about nexus regrets.
but honestly no. overall I'ld buy the phone again. I already have when it broke, and I paid full price.
DEFINATELY root your phone, IF yoru careful enough not to break it. theres teh n1 torch for using your led as a flashlight, i depend on wireless tethering alot, I love loading sense from the desire onto my phone, you can add alot more RAM from kernel configuration... I rooted both phones. It's worth it.
Thanks for your input Krabman. I'm really excited to get it tomorrow.
trevor - I am going to use it for a few days, maybe a few weeks before rooting, just in case theres something that needs to be fixed.
I really want to root it though holy crap.
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How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?
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I would advise against ever using your battery until it dies. It does harm to your battery. If my power goes below 10% i will usually turn it off until i can get it to a power source.
I can tell you lotsa great things about the Nexus One, but I'm sure you've heard them all, besides its fun discovering them first hand on your own All I can say though is you wont regret owning this phone... I love it almost as much as my girlfriend.
Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.
I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.
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I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?
grats man! im on my second n1 and i have the purple tint now. but its only a big deal sitting next to my old one. ppl are just super picky. unlock and root after 12 hr charge imo. ppl have reported sending them to HTC for repair and getting them relocked when returned. don't be so scared imo. thats why this phone is badass. its a tinkerers toy like legos.
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Dude you are definitely not going to be disappointed. I was a 2+ year iPhone user, and I am not looking back at all. This phone is a joy to play with. I had it for a few days and ended up rooting it to install Cyanogen. The mod makes a big difference, all the little things that seemed silly about stock Eclair have been cleaned up in his mod. I need to install the new version today, but I could not be more thrilled with the swap to the N1. The gelly cases are the way to go, this phone is so thin and light, and the cases just give it a nice grippyness without having to add bulk. Give it a few days to get used to some of the quirks, but you'll be happy you changed over.
I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
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Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?
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I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
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JUST GOT IT!!!! I'm charging it now. You dont know how hard it is to sit here, and watch it charge. I CANT EVEN PLAY WITH MY NEW BABY!!!!
It'll be worth it though...
I am just going to charge it until the light turns green. I see no point in letting it sit there plugged in with a full battery. With most devices this is bad for the battery.
I'm hoping I dont have the purple tint. If I do... I might have to send it in, simply because I want what I paid for. Half a grand! I mean cmon!
I will report back soon I'm just trying to pass the time...
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
I love my xoom, though i don't see a lot of resolution for you on these issues.
1. I love the display, agreed it's hard to see in bright light (but this to me is normal).
2. I like the portfolio case and use it constantly.
3. For me the lack of usb chargning is fine, as the default charger charges so fast and my battary lasts me all day. I can charge from empty to full in less then two hours and get at least a good 12 hour day of off again on again usage.
Hope this helps.
same here.
i turned of auto brightness and the screen is great for me now.
haven't put a case on it (waiting for a good one to come out).
i left the shipping cover plastic on the screen until i decide on what screen protector i am going to use.
no usb charging was not a deal breaker for me as it has been noted before that the charge time is fast and the use time is high.
1. I use mine on a bus and outside and haven't really had a problem with brightness, the glare is a killer though. Inside, at night when using the kindle app, I'd like to turn down the brightness. I picked up the Steinheil screen protectors (matte) and it really cut down on the fingerprint smudges and glare. Yea, the screen isn't as crisp as without the protector, but the smudges ruined it anyway. I took auto brightness off but keep the display turned down.
2. I haven't seen any third party case even for the ipad that I really like. The portfolio from Motorola is the best I've seen so far and I'm really disappointed. It needs to have a typing position, maybe 20-30% incline.
3. I would have liked a mini usb charger. I'll probably get a second one but by charging it at night I have more than enough juice to get through a day.
Motorola had a $100 off coupon floating around and the wifi models are being released at the end of this month which should be less expensive.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
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I have a Zoogue iPad case and have used it for the past 8 months. It is amazing and has held up perfectly. It is an awesome case especially if you intend to watch a fair bit of videos with your tablet. Maybe not the prettiest case around, but it protects the hell out of the tablet and not only allows you any angle of incline, but also a very sturdy base so that it wont go tipping over if you tap the tablet too hard.
I agree with most people here.
1. Forget the auto brightness. It's useless.
2. I really want the zoogue case, let me know how it is. I'm ok with the portfolio case. It's definitely grown on me. I have two big issues with it though: lack of a 30-degree angle for tabletop use, but i've gotten used to the "low angle", and no charging while closed. someone in the accessories forum suggested punching a hole with a punch meant for making holes in a belt and it worked like a charm (hint: try asking your dry cleaner/alternation shop if you can use theirs, that way I didn't have to buy one). Looks like it almost was meant to be there.
3. I would have liked the 'option' of a mirco usb charger, but honestly, I use it every day at work unplug in the morning, use at home after dinner and plug in at night, and have never had an issue. I even went away for the weekend (sat morn to sunday night) and brought my charger, but i never charged it. I dont see it as an issue.
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First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1 - I operate my device on auto brightness pretty much all the time, the only exception to this is when QuickPic fires up because it ramps it to 100%. I have found that in most normal operating environments I can see the screen perfectly. I am not outdoors with it very often but I know what you are talking about because it is difficult to see under direct or even semi direct sunlight.
2 - I'm going to buy a gel case right now, I already own the protective case. I want to try them both and figure that I'll use the Gel case around the house and the protective case out at work.
3 - There is a car charger, but I am unaware of a more compact Xoom charger.
Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I'm leaning strongly towards giving the Xoom another shot, although I might wait until they start shipping with 4G, so I don't have to send it back to Moto for a week for the upgrade.
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1. I didn't like the display. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
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I'm still not over the display quality. This is one of the main factors why I'm weighing to sell the xoom and get another honeycomb tablet in the future.
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2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
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Couldn't say as I've never used it before.
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3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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I found the xoom's ability to charge quickly makes up for the lack of usb charging. additionally, when in a car traveling long distances, i can hook up the charger to a power generator i bought for the car that easily hooks up to the lighter port.
I'm going to wait it out, and try and get the samsung tablet 10.1 coming out in about a month.
I too use auto brightness all the time, but maybe I live in a dark existence.
I use the gel case all the time, and no screen protector. When I take it with me, its in my protective net book sleeve in my backpack so I'm not really worried about the screen. If I start to hear complaints here about screen issues (other than the gym bag guy) I may seek better protection.
I don't find the charging to be an issue as the battery lasts a long time. I think the car charger (<$30) is a good idea if you are gonna be in the car for even 15 minutes or so. If you can hook up the standard dock someplace in your car you can charge it and play audio from itnto the aux port on your stereo if you have one...
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Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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Very much so; it charges it so fast and the battery life is so good I just don't worry about it any more. I might get a car charger for the times I can't get home in time, once they get 2nd-sourced (to save money) but so far, so good.
I suffer under no delusions that a device like this will be viewable in direct lighting (including sunlight). I pretty much assumed going in that I'd still be using my classic Nook with e-ink for reading outside...
i bought one and I returned it because of the same issues. Then I bought my wife an I pad 2 and i tested it for a few day and I
notice the xoom is so fast and you not handcuffed to apple products that I went and bought the xoom again and this time I'm keeping it.
Hello everyone!
I have looked in both Amazon and eBay and can't seem to find this but do you guys know if there is a battery bank case out there to add more battery on our phones? I have regular battery banks but sometimes it is just more convenient to have a battery that is attached to your phone. If not I think I might just need to get some velcro and a slim battery bank.
Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
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can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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strongst said:
He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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What strongst said. Below are the parts that you see in the picture. I can't put links yet I don't think.
Case: Incipio DualPro Case [will work with any case or even without one really]
Battery Bank: RAVPower 6700mah Palm Sized Portable Charger Power Bank (2.4A Output & 2A Input, iSmart 2.0 Technology) [I like this one because it provides faster charging which works for our phones and also is a nice handle with this velcro tape]
Velcro tape: Can be bought anywhere, I used the fuzzy side on the phone and the prickly side on the battery bank just because I hold the phone more.
@strongst - Thanks! Yes it does and people look at me weird when I use it. But when I am getting over 2 days battery life and 8-10 hours playing Pokemon Go! I can't complain.
If there is a manufacturer that is willing to make a decent battery case for us I will probably be one of the first ones to jump on it. I have one for my work phone and I don't mind the added weight it brings because I get decent added battery life on it. But I think with budget phones like ours chances are low that someone like ZeroLemon will make one for us.
Opps just broke charge port trying to carry this in pocket.
Easier to get a spare phone on another network than these idiot anker cases. I will be looking hard for a swapping battery phone next time. In safe mode I can only get 1/2 a work day. Which is about 14 to 15 hours.
I like the phone but 2 issues I HATE
I kept having firmware issues
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/swapping-batteries-boots-to-firmware-t3783724
my screen is bleeding and has burnt images on it at certain times.
my screen broke on the rear cameras and after time has made the main camera not focus and the IQ has degraded, even after using alcohol to clean the glass.
im curious if they had a recall on that
im going to get a 2nd v20 to use a main phone and keep my current as a backup. reason? battery swapping!!
it saved my ass soo much and has made my life so convenient. I keep the extra battery in my wallet, swap while im walking and go back to 100%.
my usb c charging socket doesnt work well anymore. after about a month, the cable wouldnt stay inside connected. I have to use a rubber band and stretch it to the top of the screen to keep it in. and QC 3 is not working anymore
why arent there more phones with battery swapping? the least they could do is make the new v30/40 with BIG batteries. I dont want to have a cable connected to my phone like iv drip at a hospital
Actually I was also thinking about getting a second V20 as a spare one bc this phone is absolutely the best I've had so far. But I'm pretty sure my phone won't be broken so soon. Dropped about thousand times with only few damages at the corner. Nothing special. It's so f...ing physically reliable! All new flagships wouldn't had resist these drops bc of their Glas building. Always had a Glas to protect the display though. The Phone is still working perfect so I decided not to get a second one. But in your case that sounds like a good choice. In Germany you can import a new V20 from the US for about 200 dollars. Imo you can't get a better phone for that price! Im using a 75 Euro LeEco Le 2 running Miui as my spare phone. The value for that amount of money is so incredibly awesome! Maybe this one.. But if my V20 will be broken some day I'll definitely going to get another one! Remember all the good reasons to buy this, for example DAC, wide angle camera back and front, military reloablitoly, SECOND screen which I like the most, swappable battery, knock on, price under 200 dollar. Yes this phone this is absolutely the best. (at least for my usage)
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Actually I was also thinking about getting a second V20 as a spare one bc this phone is absolutely the best I've had so far. But I'm pretty sure my phone won't be broken so soon. Dropped about thousand times with only few damages at the corner. Nothing special. It's so f...ing physically reliable! All new flagships wouldn't had resist these drops bc of their Glas building. Always had a Glas to protect the display though. The Phone is still working perfect so I decided not to get a second one. But in your case that sounds like a good choice. In Germany you can import a new V20 from the US for about 200 dollars. Imo you can't get a better phone for that price! Im using a 75 Euro LeEco Le 2 running Miui as my spare phone. The value for that amount of money is so incredibly awesome! Maybe this one.. But if my V20 will be broken some day I'll definitely going to get another one! Remember all the good reasons to buy this, for example DAC, wide angle camera back and front, military reloablitoly, SECOND screen which I like the most, swappable battery, knock on, price under 200 dollar. Yes this phone this is absolutely the best. (at least for my usage)
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Agreed!
I have 2 v20 a us996 and f800k love both of them no issues with any of them.......
OMG, I also did it! An hour ago I bought a spare one. But this time with dual sim. The H990N. For just 180 Euro new & sealed! But why?? This phone is almost unbreakable. Never mind..