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Let's be clear. G4 is an awesome device. But it's still kindof in the pre-production phage, don't you think? It's not even available 10 countries in the world. Anyway many of who have already bought LG G4, are actually migrated from another smartphone branding either HTC, Samsung, Nexus, Apple etc. And the youtubers contributed a lot in this publicity for LG. I hardly found anyone said any bad thing about G4, neither about it's battery life nor performance in those videos or reviews. But these two have become the most concerning area as well as disappointment for many of the users right now. I, myself also have been suffering with a few issues. I have already changed one device. Coming from XDA forum, here I will try my best to summarize all the problems people are facing with their G4 & also my observation on that matter from my personal experience as well as gathered knowledge from almost all the forums in XDA:
1. MISSED TAP:
Almost all users reporting that G4 missing many taps to recognize.
My observation:
Well, I have also experienced a few missed taps. But what I think it's not a LCD issue, rather less optimization/smoothness issue of the G4 ROM. How do I know? Well I switched on the touch sound. And every tap I did, including the missed ones, there was tapping sound. Even I tested in the manual testing, nothing reported like that. And even after formatting, symptoms reduced for some. But surely it's very annoying.
Oh one thing about knock codes, I found LG LCD doesn't response to gentlest touches sometimes. You need to press slightly a bit more. Fact to be considered : I am still using the provided plastic protector.
2. LAGGING ISSUE:
There is stuttering here and there in G4, not only in the stock launcher but also in the whole system.
My observations:
No doubt G4 lags. You will notice less smoothness / sluggishness while sliding any page up & down in chrome, youtube, Google plus or anything. It is not "butter smooth" like some other OEMs for most of the users. But switching to Nova, turning off smart bulletin & dual window helped to some extent, but not completely.
3. BATTERY LIFE:
Many of the moderate to heavy users complaining about quick battery drainage with low to medium brightness.
My observations:
LG said many things about their battery life of G4 in their announcement party and many well-known youtubers also said very much positive things about G4's battery life i.e. it can easily last a day which raised up the expectation bar of many users. But the real scenario is quite not like that. Most of the medium to heavy users are getting average 3 - 4.5 hours SOT with keeping screen brightness low to medium which is not at all the way LG mentioned. It seems like LG is providing that extra battery knowing the fact that you will need to put on that extra one at the middle of the day for sure. Anyway, what I found is: G4's stand-by time is OUTSTANDING. Don't turn on that screen much, only receive a few calls, you can pass a decade (not literally) with a single charge. But turn on that screen, do browse, chat, Facebooking or Youtubing or anything keeping that overkill screen on, you will hardly pass 5 hours maximum. Raise the brightness a bit more, like 75-100%, brother, you are doomed. Your G4 will die within hours. For some, turning off auto brightness & keeping the brightness below 50% all the time, turning off fast-dormency, turning off GPS, using Greenify helped a bit. Anyway, my point is that awesome-bright-vivid-overkill screen is actually the curse for the G4 at present if LG doesn't bring up some solutions for it. What's the point if you can not enjoy the juice of a fruit which is known to be the tastiest of them all???
4. HEATING & SLOW CHARGING ISSUE:
Very limited people including mine are complaining of frequent, not consistent, heating up issue of the phone as well as slow charging.
My observations:
Many factors can be responsible for this. Some people find this scenario happening once a day, for some once in two days and these two issues are interconnected in my opinion. What can heat up the phone? May be some hidden apps, maybe weather, maybe some other things, but surely it does for some. Yah we have seen in all the reviews that G4 warms up a bit, but not very much. But the people who are complaining about it, found it uncomfortable to speak touching the phone to the face. I will attach a screenshot here, in which my phone was completely idle, was on charge, no phone call came & my phone got heat up to 42 degrees & it took almost 5 hours to charge from 20 - 100%. Again I am saying this is not a consistent scenario, but it's frustrating for some including mine.
5. OTHER ISSUES:
These are some random issues found by some people:
a) White sparking light in the screen.
b) Yellow tint on screen.
c) Bad bluetooth audio.
d) Wifi speed problem.
e) Helium app doesn't work properly.
f) Nova launcher cannot install properly.
g) Vibration too soft.
h) Auto brightness inconsistancy.
So guys, if you have read it and if you are one of those renowned youtubers or columnists or bloggers whom LG guys follow on regular basis, please make an article or video about it, spread these information and let the LG guys know about these so that they can do something about it. I personally believe, software update can solve 95% of the issues. So be it.
Thanks for your patience to read my post.
I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL
5d is a huge concern for me. My WiFi speed is complete bollocks. I'm getting a reading of 60mb down from my 5gh router when running speedtest on the phone. But when I actually load a website it's like I'm using dial up again. The load times are atrocious! I'm going to look into changing chanels on my router as someone has mentioned as a fix. Fingers crossed
I haven't had any of those issues. Honestly been flawless so far. Surprised by how smooth it is. I do only get 3 hours sot if I run power intensive apps. But I think that's normal.
The only real issue I've had is **** slowness on Wi-Fi but blazing speed on data
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Wifi speeds are complete crap for me i swear it's like im on dial up waiting for a page to load and forget about getting youtube to load
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I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL
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Same here. Not sure why there is so much inconsistency between devices. I bought the US trial version, and mine has been relatively good. If I had half of the problems reported I would have sold this thing ASAP and waited for a better crop of devices to come out this fall. I'm one of the few people who really like a stripped down TouchWiz, but with Knox/sealed but not waterproof body/no SD/weak battery the S6 wasn't cutting it. If only Samsung sold the Exynos to these other vendors... For now, I'm fine with the G4, but really hope we get root and unlocked BL so development explodes and the kernel can get tweaked.
Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though
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Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though
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You can add the 4th button. You can add up to 5. Settings - Display - Home touch buttons - Button combination
Perfect summary.
I've also seen a lot of people saying that they aren't having these problems which can lead to people thinking the phone is perfect, which it's not. I love the screen size and the display but the software is really letting this phone down.
I've experienced many problems too, such as: stuttering, poor battery life at high brightness, brightness dimming down by itself, slow charging, lag and stutter in games, e.g. dead trigger 2 and subway surfers (yes I've turned off game optimiser) and the notification pull down freezing frequently when I get a notification. However, as I saw a lot of people saying that their phones were perfect I chose to exchange my phone instead of return it. My new phone has the exact same problems (uk device on v10a).
Maybe these problems can be fixed with a software update but the question is will it? My G3 lagged and stuttered from the beginning and no software update changed that. The only fix was to switch to a cm12 rom which made the phone finally perform smoothly, at the cost of battery life and camera quality.
It's been at least 3 phones in a row now that have had poor software (g3, g flex 2 and now g4). They're supposed to test their phones before putting them out to consumers but it doesn't seem like they really care so I don't have much hope.
Worst thing is I really want to love this phone and think LG's hardware design is perfect but the software is most likely going to make me sell it.
It might be worth mentioning which version you're on, especially if it's one where the provider (such as VZW) has bogged it down with bloatware. That could conceivably be a contributing factor to battery life issues, if nothing else.
Just a suggestion. Might be a good idea for people to put which model they're on and which Software version they're running.
Like I'm on the H811 running version 81110D. That way, we can see if any issues might be carrier type or software version based...
Just a thought.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.
I was having a issue where my screen Brightness would change on it's own. Tmobile H811 running version 81110D ? I believe that was the version before the update I got and installed on its own last night of H. When I mean change on it's own I had the Screen Brightness on 100% like every other phone and after the few secs when the screen dims and you touch it again the screen brightness would now be set to 70% now 100%. AUTO is off I don't use that.
I will see if this happens on the H update or not.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.
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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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Go into Wi-Fi Settings.
Under Advanced Wifi Settings
In Useful Settings, there is a setting for "Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off".
It's set to NO by default.
I would imagine it's some sort of power saving feature.
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I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.
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In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.
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I haven't touched anything in Wi-Fi settings other than setting my passkey and turning "Always allow scanning" off. That setting for Wi-Fi off when screen is off was on when I got the phone. Looks like default position.
It probably doesn't help that they keep losing software engineers at their California office (i work at LG). Senior engineers to make things worse.
The yellow tint on the screen is the part that upsets me the most. The lead-up to the G4's release was all about how superior the screen is to the G3's. Yet the G4's I've received have had yellow tint issue (two of them so far). The screen also appears dimmer than my old G3 at max brightness as well (this is before auto dimming kicks in too.)
There seems to be a rather big shipment of G4's with yellow screens in my area. I've been to 4 different AT&T stores in the past 4 days and have seen at least 5 brand new phones with the yellow tint. It seems to be restricted to the grey metallic retail ones as well. None of the display models or the leather backed ones I've seen thus far as the yellow tint issue. This is in Houston, TX btw. I'm heading to a 5th after work in the hopes of finding a G4 with a non-defective screen.
Hi,
I was reading this article: http://www.xda-developers.com/how-t...-management-almost-double-the-apps-in-memory/ It says that new oneplus 3 has a build.prop command to limit background apps which has to improve battery life. I was wondering, what if our moto e has simmilar command too? Suprise suprise there is a "ro.MAX_HIDDEN_APPS=12" which I think does the same thing as command from oneplus article.
So I made a little test simmilar to one from article with one change. Since we have only 1gb I was picking only light apps (like phone, callendar, notes ect. no chrome or games) to see if limit is really working. Before each test I cleaned recent apps and rebooted device, also I disabled internet connection to prevent any background sync.
I'm running stock 6.0 eu rom, un rooted, with squid kernel. Here are results:
with "ro.MAX_HIDDEN_APPS=12" around 7-8 apps in background, I repeated this test twice to check.
with "ro.MAX_HIDDEN_APPS=70" around 23!!!! Probably you can remove this command or set to any high value and it will work the same.
p.s
I don't know how it will afect battery life or overall performance.
Ok, so I've had this GS7A a few days now, did one or two full resets to get used to what I could disable with Package Disabler Pro (worth every penny, seriously, since we may more than likely never see a working root) and I have to say that I am pretty damned impressed with the battery life. Yes we all know this magnificent beast has a 4000 mAh battery in it so that has something to do with the lifespan obviously, but I wanted to post about my experience and perhaps try and stir up some discussion since this subforum is basically dead for the most part.
I know most discussion is over in the GS7 thread since it is the same hardware in a different case but even so - it's actually not the same device since it has a smaller 3000 mAh capacity battery so, if anyone is interested in sharing their battery life info and experience by all means do it.
A caveat:
Right now I don't actually have cellular service with this GS7A because it's currently still carrier locked to AT&T and I haven't gotten around to purchasing an unlock code. I'm not an AT&T customer, never have been, and since I got this device from a trade done through craigslist the person I made the deal with wasn't the original owner - he did state he found the phone in a casino bathroom here in Las Vegas (that sort of thing happens hundreds of times a day here, seriously) and yes the IMEI is blacklisted so I don't know if the original owner reported it as lost or stolen and since the blacklist system doesn't differentiate then it doesn't matter anyway.
Having said that I will state that I use Google Voice for all my "phone calls" and SMS/text duties these days so I don't actually need cellular service as long as I have Wi-Fi. Google Hangouts handles all that just fine so, I'm stating this here so you'll understand that I don't use the cellular radio at all, the GS7A stays in Airplane Mode constantly and with Wi-Fi enabled (and yes Wi-Fi is always on).
Yesterday I did quite a bit in terms of actually using the GS7A: I listened to a lot of "police scanner" streams using Scanner Radio Pro, I watched the entire Presidential debate on the GS7A using CNNGo, I watched maybe 30 minutes of video on Periscope (Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert), listened to my own music (Opus 128Kbps encodes) using GoneMAD for maybe 3 hours total since the last charge, listened to a radio station from back home in Virginia using TuneIn Radio for maybe 2 hours, read a lot of articles using Flipboard, and various other things including hitting the Play Store to check for updates as well as checking Gmail maybe a few dozen times during the day. I also did two runs of Geekbench 4 and two runs of Antutu during this period before these screenshots were taken so those were a hit on the battery for max CPU/GPU usage for several minutes each as well.
Also, I keep the screen brightness at about 40-45% on the slider, but I did go out for a walk yesterday lasting maybe 30 minutes and set it on Auto to compensate, probably had the screen on about 5-8 minutes in that time at ~full brightness.
So understanding all that here's what I've got currently from screenshots I just took like a minute ago:
Looking at that kind of battery life, just shy of 2 full days and barely cracking the 50% point, I can guess that if I did have actual cellular service I could easily get 1.5-2 days use of this device regularly which is truly astonishing. The last phone I had that could give me battery life even close to this was a ZTE Zmax which literally gave me 10+ hours of SOT on a regular basis (the 1280x720 display on that really saved a lot of battery life, and the Super AMOLED on this GS7A probably helps considerably as well).
I am truly impressed by this, and I have to wonder what kind of actual battery life I could get with a) cellular service working normally and also b) root so I can do even more tweaking as well as c) an unlocked bootloader to allow for a custom kernel.
And I haven't even enabled the Power Saver or Ultra Power Saver modes at all.
So, what's your battery life like using the Galaxy S7 Active? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
EDIT:
Finally died and shut itself off but I watched a few TV shows off my Play Store Movies and TV account to keep the screen on and the Wi-Fi active and here's the final result - I never kicked in the Power or Ultra Power saving modes, I simply let it go till it shut itself off:
Mind you if I had just continued to use the GS7A in a typical fashion with audio streaming, Flipboard reading, etc, and not continuous screen on video viewing as well as the Wi-Fi I'm sure it would last 3 solid days without any problems so again I should (or anyone really) should be able to get an actual solid full day of use from this device reaching possibly into the 1.5 to 2 day range with cellular working normally.
Damned impressive stuff, it really is.
Just a followup. I wanted to see how far I could take this battery life thing so, I decided to do a full video run meaning:
- charge the battery to 100%
- set brightness at ~50% (since the way Touchwiz works it's hit or miss but close enough to the middle of the brightness slider)
- start playing a video in MX Player Pro with hardware acceleration enabled and the video on a loop
- give it a few seconds to get moving
- disconnect from the AC adapter
and then wait till I get to the 5% point for the battery.
So where did I end up? Well, here's the 50% point I just crossed a few moments ago:
Pretty damned awesome indeed. Yes I realize that hardly anyone is going to sit around watching videos for 8+ hours, let alone the potential 16 hours I might actually achieve (and again I don't use the power/ultra power saving modes, at least not once since I got this Active). Here are some details on the actual video I'm playing:
- it's TimeScapes which is pretty damned awesome itself
- it's the 1440p version of TimeScapes, at 2560x1440 resolution so the entire Super AMOLED display gets a full workout, every last pixel without fail
- it's about 48 minutes 21 seconds long (again, I have MX Player Pro set to loop it over and over)
- it's an MP4 container with the h.264 video stream with stereo AAC audio
Here's the MediaInfo for those that might be interested:
Code:
General
Complete name : Z:\TimeScapes\TimeScapes 2560x1440.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size : 6.19 GiB
Duration : 48mn 21s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.3 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
©TIM : 00:00:00:00
©TSC : 24000
©TSZ : 1001
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate : 18.0 Mbps
Width : 2 560 pixels
Height : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps
Original frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.204
Stream size : 6.08 GiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Color range : Limited
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 48mn 21s
Source duration : 48mn 21s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 317 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 416 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Source stream size : 110 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
Tagged date : UTC 2012-05-25 11:04:10
I intend to let this one keep going till I get to the ~5% point and then take another set of screenshots and see just how far this thing will last and I'll update this post when I'm done. Wi-Fi is always on, Location is always on (high accuracy), my Google services are active (pun intended) and I get notifications from apps just for the record as well - I do check some things every 30 minutes or so (Flipboard updates, Hangouts messages, and some other stuff) that usually just takes a couple of seconds then I go right back to the video as well.
The Energizer bunny apparently has nothing on this Galaxy S7 Active.
Ok, here's the final results. When I got to 5% the screen dimmed automagically so I stopped the video then restarted it which kicked it back to the normal brightness (roughly 50% as stated above) and then I figured I'd push it about as far as I could meaning 1%.
Amazing... just shy of 15.5 hours SOT
I figure if I did this again and lowered the brightness to 30-35% I'd easily get the 16 hours and more, probably 17-ish sounds about right. Regardless for me, I've never seen any device get this kind of direct battery life but then again today's testing was very limited - strictly video playback of that 1440p video and not much else in terms of actual use. I probably used the Active less than 5 minutes of the nearly fifteen and a half hours for checking email, Hangouts, and of course looking at the battery stats to take a screenshot when needed.
The Galaxy S7 Active should get more love, it really should, it's sad that so many people dismiss it outright just because of looks. I'd take something like this device over pretty much anything else on the market today, and with battery life like this I'd still be using it long after other people's pretty shiny glossy slippery devices are long dead with no charge.
I might do this test again using a 10-bit h.265 HEVC 1080p movie here (Deadpool which is an awesome flick) and see how it handles that in terms of battery life and decoding, who knows.
Excellent performance, finding myself loving this phone !
How many charges/ days from new did you guys find that it took for the battery to settle in? I took my S7A off charge when I woke up at 2.30am this morning and 5 hours later when I got out of bed it had gone through 20% of its battery whilst sitting there screen off doing absolutely nothing.
I was horrified and I don't know if I'm worrying over nothing, I'm just a bit jumpy because although it is brand new, I bought it from ebay so my return window is extremely small. If it has a cooked/ defective battery I need to return it ASAP.
Of course I am aware that new phones take quite a few days, even weeks or months until they reach their optimum battery functionality but 20% in 5 hours idle seems absolutely crazy.
i would see what the main drain is in the battery info, as at night mine would barely drop a few percent ! ..
also, which country are you in ? have you ran package disabler and took down a few sill apps yet ?
maybe that you had autoupdate and was on WiFi so it was doing loadsa updates during night (as that is actually a setting!)
whats it been like since ... s this question poses more questions than ansers
Seems like I've got it sorted now. Only dropped 2% last night which is pretty good considering I have quite a lot of stuff left turned on.
I had already used package disabler pro to clean up all of the AT&T mess; it turns out the culprit was my MiBand and the software it came with. I've had no problems on any of my other phones, but on this device it seems that the apps that the MiBand needs to keep working properly were preventing the device from dozing or entering deep sleep properly.
Once I disabled them, the overnight battery drain went away. This is a real bummer because I do like the miband 1s, so I'm now on the lookout for an always-on fitness band with good battery life that is properly compatible with the S7 Active.
The miband 1s could not pair with this phone 100% correctly as a standard BLE device so possibly this was part of the problem.
BTW, Great Stuff br0adband - excellent job on the testing, really in depth study. I knew I was enjoying the way the phone had been working but hadn't tried any testing. I came from the Note series... had two Note 4s, one with Verizon, one with AT&T, a Note 5, which I still own (thank God) and two Note 7s, an original and a replacement, both turned in, damned it Samsung. I went back to the Note 5 on both occasions of the Note 7 fiasco and on both occasions, immediately noticed the battery life as the Note 7 also had fantastic battery life, until of course they'd explode! The last time I ran the Note 5 for about six weeks and couldn't handle it any more... it seemed like I was charging it more than I was using it. I went to get an S7 Edge, only the edge functions were driving me crazy. My AT&T rep said "Hey, have you seen this - you love rugged phones and long battery life right?" That was it! End of story... S7Active Owner!
Just completed a battery test with actual, normal usage. Keeping in mind I have a work phone which I use to make the majority of my calls, the S7A was just there for my personal web browsing and personal calls which amounted to about 10 calls and 25 SMS or so.
Force gmail sync set to once every 30 minutes, greenify installed and working properly, airplane mode NOT used at night so 4G radio was active the entire time, bluetooth on the entire time but only connected whilst driving.
I was hoping to crack 4 days, and I'm sure I could if I were to stop using the device but that's not what I was doing here. 3 days + 1 night is still pretty good for an unrooted phone with factory kernel.
Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
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Battery life is good on this device because of the battery size. Your testing is not accurate for real use because of the radios being turned off. But those are good results to see. The problem is the cell radio takes up much of the battery life just at idle, which is frustrating cause can't really disable this as a phone. Plus if your using bluetooth for smart watch or vehicle connectivity even as LE it uses a lot of battery. For the guys using package disabler which items do you think or recommend disablng that have helped the most?
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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I don't know what you are doing but something is wrong if bluetooth is causing extra battery drain. I have a Gear S2 connected constantly and headphones for multiple hours a day and my battery life is outstanding.
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Couldn't tell you why but when using Moto 360 for a day Bluetooth is almost always listed under battery stats. Maybe it's Android wear..? Bluetooth isn't top drainer but it does contribute..
Hey guys - I need some advice.
I recently rooted my phone - then upon the release of Nougat for the GS7A I decided to kick the glitchy root to the curb and go with Nougat. I absolutely love it, and am getting fantastic battery life without any modifications.... For starters I have a few basic questions:
1) Greenify - I have the paid version but have never really used it without Root before... reading around I seem to be getting conflicting information on the benefit of using Greenify knowing that Nougat has Doze, and Doze on the Go built in..... That said - since installing Nougat I have been using Greenify. I also enabled all of the added features through ADB to unlock agressive doze etc.... Someone please enlighten me - should I even be using this? Anything to avoid or use in particular in doing so?
2) Package Disabler Pro - I do not have this app, but it seems to be similar to like a non-root version of Titanium Backup for removing/freezing apps.... Should I purchase this? is there any reason not to? Also - I've seen about 15 different versions all with similar names and all exclusively for Samsung phones... which one to buy?
3) Assuming the above is a worthy purchase - which apps should I disable? Which are the biggest drains?
4) I've seen several battery stat tracking apps - which is best for tracking usage/battery hog apps?
Here's the kicker. I want to be able to use my phone to its full functionality. I have the Gear S2 watch (use it constantly), I like using Samsung Pay as much as I can, I Bluetooth to my car when driving for music/calls, I use Amazon Music/Play Music/Spotify often in the gym/running - what I am saying is: I am not shooting for 16 days of battery life with 14 hours of SOT - and otherwise zero functionality of why we purchase these smart devices to begin with. I am simply trying to maximize battery life while using my phone to the fullest - by whatever means necessary. All of this in mind - anyone else like me with similar goals that can enlighten me as to you suggestions to meet the above requirements?
I appreciate any help!!
1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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1)Can't really answer this one; I'm using it but haven't noticed as much difference as I did under previous version (where I had root + xposed).
2)The one called Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) by policedeveloper.
3)Here is a list of apps I have disabled: Please note, I am not on AT&T. You might need to retain some of these if you need that functionality; to me it is all trash:
AT&T App Select, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Locker, AT&T protect plus, AT&T Remote support, Briefing, Device help, directv, drivemode, email, facebook, facebook app installer, facebook app manager, google play movies & tv, Hangouts, myAT&T, Remote, Samsung Pay (my banking app has its own NFC wallet functionality which overrides android pay), Smart limits, Usage Manager, YP, Lookout.
There's probably a few more that I need to get around to but I've had no dramas or FC issues after disabling all of the above.
4)I have got GSam battery which is good once it has been through a few charge cycles but I still find it gives some pretty wacky figures sometimes eg. Screen on time. I'm not really sure if any of the apps like this are necessary as the new battery stats gives you a decent amount of info once you drill down; it is just organised better in these apps is all.
Wakelock Detector Lite needs a bit of config through ADB but will give you a picture of what is waking up your phone and eating battery. Unfortunately, without root there isn't all that much you can do about it. Bluetooth_timer and Bluetooth_alarm issues are still present in Nougat and still waking the phone far more often than is necessary.
5)Keep your screen brightness down and turn off wifi when you don't need it, check your phone via your watch where possible and consider forcing the device to use WCDMA if that is an option for you. Fully waking up the device + having screen on is when your battery gets eaten alive. I find the S7A to be a pretty good workhorse as is. The built in medium battery saving setting might interest you as well, the extreme one is a step too far but you can still use as normal on the moderate battery saving mode.
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Thanks for sharing your experience and advice with me! So far I've got about 70 or so packages disabled and I have not used Greenify (yet) - only the built in doze app settings in Nougat.
I am still using Samsung Pay, Gear S2 watch, Bluetooth in my car/headphones, and haven't had a single issue with functionality yet.
The android system is now way down on the battery usage list and I just pulled 6 hours SOT, over 42 hours since the first charge.
Pretty damn good start and looks like I may have succeeded in my goals here! I will be running a few more battery cycles and tracking data with and without Greenify - and once I have more information I plan to start a thread on this for others to hopefully help educate others with similar goals.
I recently got a Samsung s7 but after some time I realise the battery is draining fast and taking long to charge, it can be 100% and the green light will never pop. After full charge it reduces within minutes of being idle. Sometimes it can stay at a certain percentage for a very long time before reducing again. Guys I need help to solve this problem. Thanks
Not all that good battery life.
I use:
Screen, ON, Auto - Full Bright.
Samsung Fit, ON
Google Maps, ON (Offline)
WiFi, ON (Connected to GoPro)
4G, ON
3½ Hours......
I have a TOMO M4 battery pack with TESLA 18650 cells from a 90D Module as a battery supply for my trail rides.
The phone is capable, but still is underpowered for its build and what it can accomplish.
This needs a case with a built in battery, this truly would make it a rugged phone for the outdoor enthusiast, same as the S8 now has.
I wonder if the S8 Active will get a battery case?! This would defo be my next purchase....
OR .... do the Oukitel K10000 build to it.
Trying to take a picture here from the mobile direct...
Not bad... better then my Samsung galaxy s3...I got 12 hours at best but those lithium ion batteries drain and die over time sadly....
This is with the weird work around root too... its getting the Jon done thus far...lets see how she finishes with regular use
Some more accurate stats...full day of use seems to be 10 hours with this root method...battery only 92% so I know it can do better!
I have a hard time uploading files on this website from my phone...doesn't want to work well
This is what I get so far...may have to update seperate posting
Hi everyone, I'm a complete noob to all this so I apologize in advance but I just sold my Nexus 5x and picked up a used S7A off of ebay and so far I'm loving it!! I was just wondering if the package disabler app that's been mentioned would be worth it for all the att bloatware or if I could just disable them myself and get the same results? My phone frequently gets really hot, sometimes uncomfortably hot, and was wondering if there were any ways I could potentially put less stress on the battery as well?? Thanks and sorry for the lack of knowledge!! Also not sure if it matters but my software version is only at security patch Oct 1, 2017. Not sure If updating to more recent patch would help battery life as well(?) but I currently am not on the att network so I'm not sure how to update manually
Hey xda-ers,
I have been plagued by this issue for quite some time and wanted to see if it was just me, or if others share my pain.
Since migrating to Nougat I have found that my phone starts to slow down and freeze after some usage. Typically after leaving some apps open.
The problem immediately goes away once i hit Clear All on the recents, thus I think it is a RAM issue.
In all kernerls or Roms I have tried the problem persists, even if selecting "Aggressive mode" for low memory killer.
I always thought that leaving apps open will not impact ram, as android "understands" theses are not being used (hence why all "ram managers" are just snake oil).
So is anyone else getting this slow down after a few hours of use?
Any tips/tricks to help with this?
TL;DR: how do i fix constant low memory on Nougat roms?
It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.
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It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.
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Hi, thanks for the reply.
I also use Greenify, and when checking the app usage (which i have monitored for a few months), I see that OS uses around 1.2, and chrome and other apps around 100-200mb each.
However, it seems that the moment I have less than 400mb "free" it starts to glitch.
Also, issue persists even with Tesla Rom (which is what i moved to a few months ago).
Maybe this is just the limit of the N4 with newer apps...
For me the android OS is currently around the 350MB mark. Tap on Android OS and see what is using the memory. Maybe the cache is running high for you?
Hello guys,
i created this first thread on this forum because my Moto G4 Plus doesn't work like it should.
I have display burnings (and i think it's getting worse).
I don't have a rooted device and i can't use a trick which requires root because i've banking apps which requires an unrooted phone.
Additionally the phone is getting slower and slower. When i click something sometimes i have to wait 2-3 seconds until it shows the expected result.
Chrome is slow. Google photos is slow. I think every app is slow except of one or two.
I can't remember that it was like this at the beginning.
Does anyone can help me?
Thanks,
Daniel
If you're getting display burn in, you could try the S-filter app as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/guide-how-to-fix-screen-burn-image-t3820594 credit to the MotoG sub Reddit page https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/91hjne/how_to_fix_image_persistence_on_all_motorola/
I'm currently testing out a similar app - iBlue from the Play Store and it seems to be limiting the display burn in (I have a LG LCD panel on my G4 Plus). I'm not rooted (and in fact have re-locked my device's bootloader).
As for the slowdowns, is this persisting across networks (i.e. do you see the same behaviour on Wi-Fi and on 3G/4G LTE)? Have you tried to wipe cache or consider wiping data and starting over with a clean device? How much free space is left on your device's internal storage?
I'm using Twilight at the evening for a blue filter. Is it a similar app and should i only use one app?
My free space is low. I think the smartphone is slower if the battery is empty. I didn't recognize any difference between wifi and 4g/3g.
I will try a cache clear.
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I'm using Twilight at the evening for a blue filter. Is it a similar app and should i only use one app?
My free space is low. I think the smartphone is slower if the battery is empty. I didn't recognize any difference between wifi and 4g/3g.
I will try a cache clear.
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If Twilight works for you, you may as well stay with it. I did notice slight lag when the filter was on, though the trade-off is worth it for less burn-in and easier on the eyes.
Hmm, you may wish to clear some space on your internal storage - if I recall, my device slowed down when I had less than 1-2 GB of free space internally. Also, if your battery is nearly empty, your device will slow down because of Battery Saver (if you have it on), since battery saving clocks down your CPU/disables the high powered cores so you've only got 4 low powered cores until you charge. It may also be that a low battery can't provide enough power to your CPU for full operation.
Ok, a cache clear helped a little bit. I will try to reset my phone and test it if it helps.
I also noticed the slowness when the battery is low... then it is very slow...
Something on this device wrong... Motorola misconfigured anything. This shouldn't happen.
Your device should slow down when your battery is low as I wrote above, especially if you have Battery Saver active on your device. Does your navigation bar turn orange at below 15 % battery?
Only at 5%
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Only at 5%
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Thus, at 5% your device CPU clocks down and shuts off the 1.5 GHz cores, leaving you on the 4 low power 1.2 GHz cores at a reduced clock speed. Under those conditions, your device will slow down until you plug your device in https://www.howtogeek.com/242472/how-to-use-and-configure-androids-battery-saver-mode/
Instead of doing a factory reset, I'd uninstall some unnecessary apps if possible, see if you can free up some more space - it doesn't have to be a full wipe (which will erase all your data).
I always uninstall apps which i don't use and i clean all cache data and junk data with the Android Go Files app.
Maybe i have to remove old pictures from my phone...
I cleared my storage now by deleting apps. I have 3gb free space now.