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Hi,
I have looked but not been able to find one specific for the Vega.
Is there any where that explains all of the accronyms that every one uses and what is best for the tablet?
I have the vega completly stock... I keep reading about rooting and ROM's this and ROMs that... is thre some where that explains what all of this means so I can figure out what I can do with mine and how to do it?
Sorry if this is a silly Q... im learning... well trying to.
Hi there and welcome to xda developers.
There is all the info you need here on this site. You just need to spend some time reading. If you have a completely stock vega, we need to change that. I would recommend starting with my rom-add on. It is just that, it adds the google parts. Have a play with that to get you started. It does not require any additional software to install, so its great for beginners.
As for rooting, this is to gain access to the protected android system. This is used by some applications such as button Saviour (a must for the vega) There is a full guide and my rom add-on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931337
After that have a read up on clockwork mod. This is a recovery/flash app that is used to flash custom roms on the vega.
After you are all happy with that try out some of the great ROMS from corvus and Zebwen.
If you have ant specific questions feel free to fire them at me, i will help out best i can. Just remember the "search button is your friend"
Good Luck
O_G
Thank you mate, that has helped a lot.
If you are serious about Android then be prepared to read - that is the one thing which will separate you from the average user.
To get you started you will need to know a few basics before you can start contributing to a community which has dedicated themselves in bringing better Operating Systems (Roms) to our phones. By knowing these basic steps you will be able to help iron out bugs from whatever Rom you have decided to keep on your phone and thus, improving your own user experience.
If you are completely new to this then you should read Glevitan's Starter Guide. It contains everything you need to know and it is a mandatory prerequisite before you can post in this thread seaking help.
Now that you have read and understood some of the terminology and how to recover from possible issues, you can root your phone with the A high-level DHD/Inspire manual S-OFF hack concept for advanced users [NOTE: The AAHK HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR NOOBS. IT IS FOR ADVANCE USERS ONLY. REFER TO THIS STICKY INSTEAD [How to] ROOT without the Hack Kit] Even if you do encounter issues, knowing the terminology, what you did and what went wrong will help communicating your issue so we can find a way to solve it. If you read the starter guide you should know that we don't recommend using HTC dev to unlock your bootloader. However, if you did go this route you can read this helpful guide: [NOOB] Flashing a custom ROM & getting it to boot IF bootloader is htcdev unlocked. And finally, our own resident and esteemed Glevitan is working on a tool to make it easier for you all. [ROOT] [TOOL] Easy Ace Root Tool
After having spent some time in the XDA threads reading a lot more than what you should post, you will have realized that almost any question you could possibly think about has already been asked over a dozen times and why so many emphasize the importance of searching for your answer first. You would also come to realize what are the benefits of setting up ADB. Among one of ADB (Android debug Bridge - [GUIDE] ADB - Usage, Tips, Tricks and More! and [GUIDE]ADB Workshop and Guide for everyone) uses is creating logcats. These logcats help developers finding what is causing a bug and how to fix it. This is a quick [Tutorial] How To Logcat. However, this quick tutorial will only help you get started. Keep in mind that apps like aLogcat or Catlog could shorten important output from the log. Another one: Learn to logcat like a Pro!
To be able to help developers create a better user experience for us, we need to create a bug report. The reason why we first need to search the forum is to avoid confusing the developer by cluttering the thread with repeated reports, of bugs and questions which as mentioned earlier, most likely have already been asked. To have a better understanding of the different instances we can create logs, then have a look at: [TUT]Report a bug I do believe this can not be emphasized enough and thus, what better way than reading it from existz own words.
Making your own Android Rom: Some advice..
You can find some relevant and not so relevant links in the second and third post.
Forum Rules
A Short Guide To Open-Source And Similar Licenses
Team:
Gizmoe
Bananagranola
Glevitan
Teichopsia
GuyInTheCorner
Muikkuman
sashank
hdorius
We are all here attempting to return what the community has given us - constantly deconstructing the OP in lieu of a better organization.
Thread Index
Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide by Glevitan.
Goes to a different thread (Guide) (Beginners) You have rooted your phone, now what can you do Thanks to GuyintheCorner.
Goes to a different thread Steps to flashing ROM - Thanks to sashank.
Page#1, post#8 FAQ's by Hdrorius.
Page#18, post#179 Booting into recovery, Full wipe and flashing, How to restore after formatting the SD card.
Page#1, post#9 [GUIDE] ADB - Usage, Tips, Tricks and More!, thanks to andyharney.
Page#14, post#133 [Tutorial] How To Logcat Thanks to andyharney. This will take you directly to the OP.
Page #2, post #19 "I have the SanDisk Class 10 64GB MicroSD card and it works flawlessly in my DHD." Thanks to Blasphemer666 for the report.
Page#3, post#24 Radio - Location mapping project by Xeleth.
Page#4, post#35 CPU+FAN+Overclocking brief discussion, Continues here, And here, Here as well, One more, Another one, Doesn't seem to end, Finally Ending in post#42
Page#5, post#45 British cure for Hangovers - by a 15yr old
Page#9, post#82 How to check which camara sensor you have, thanks to GuyInTheCorner.
Page#18, post#172 Radio, Ril discussion.
Page#22, post#213 Random Links
Page#28, post#273 A little guide on flashing radios the PD98IMG.zip way Thanks to Xeleth - link will take you to the OP.
Page#37, post#368 Enabling the right click button in LinuxMint It all started on post#316. A special thanks to bananagranola for the step by step guidance.
Page#40, post#396 [NOOB] Flashing a custom ROM & getting it to boot IF bootloader is htcdev unlocked Thanks to sashank.
Page#52, post#514 [TUT] Edify Scripts (Creating flashable zips) Thanks to sashank.
Page#57, post#569 Inspire - Aroma Installer calibration values.
Page#67, post#668 Links to learn how to program.
Page#69, post#687 Stuff to say about dalvik cache and data wiping. Thanks to sashank, continues on post #689.
Page#76, post#757 adb devices not listed linux Udev, Udev Rules, etc., still under construction.
Page#78, post#776 pd98img.zip / 4ext touch recovery RC7.
Page#83, post#822 Short flashable zip explanation / guide. Thanks to bananagranola.
Page #164 [Guide][How to]Disable hardware key and light functions. thanks to hdorius.
Gold Card Generator Kinda a do it yourself thing.
Page#200, post#1992 Links to learn Java and Linux - but mostly linux
Links
Freenode IRC chan. #htc-ace - DHD/Inspire, a place to hang out and generally talk about anything pertaining to these devices. Thanks to synergydev.
#AceRoot - S-OFF support, Thanks to Glevitan
XDA University
[Lists]Guide Ride-From a Newbie to a Dev, Get all you need here
Android Debug Bridge.
zeppelinrox
[RC9] ULTIMATIC RC6! [EXE]-=Ultimate Jar Power Tools=-With Maximum MultiTasking Mods!
Hboot explained. thanks to cee43ja1 for the links.
[COLLECTION][TWEAKS]build.prop tweaks[8 JUNE]
[REF][TWEAKS] Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers, CPU Tweaks, AIO App Configs
a list of build.prop tweaks
Android Terms,Slang & Definitions
{HELP} Interactive Help Forum!{TUTORIALS} Where questions are encouraged!
[Reference] Interactive Phone Modification [GUIDE]
RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility): How to extract files from a RUU.
[HOW TO] Beginners Guide to Android ROM Development
[Guide]Complete Android ROM development and essential tutorials ~~ By Nero Young ~~
[GUIDE] How to port Stock/GB/CM7/CM9/ICS/CM10/JB Based ROMs
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
[Tutorial] Compile JB on Ubuntu
[Tutorial] Compile ICS on Ubuntu
[Tutorial][Oct. 19, 2011] Compile AOSP Gingerbread on Ubuntu
[Guide] How to use Github
[Guide] How to set up ADB and Build Android with fedora KDE
dsixda's Android Kitchen
[Kitchen] Easy Development Studio
Ultimate Apk Workshop
[MULTI-TOOL] StudioAndroid (cross-platform)
[CM10] [PPA] Cyanogenmod Compiler v0.6
[UTILITY] Android Utility - [apktool|dex2jar|smali|more][Mac & Linux][Feb13, 2012]
[KITCHEN]Android Kernel Kitchen 0.3.1 (Linux / Windows)
[INFO] WaccoPedia - Sharing is Caring Thanks to hdorius for the link.
A quick tutorial on SplashScreens by Glevitan
[ATTN - ALL ANDROID DEVS] General Public License
And it has moderator approval, so please only report posts if they actually require attention.
Yes let the fun begin
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INDEX
ABSTRACT
The present document pretends to guide the noobs and not so noobs in their flashing / modding / theming way. It covers what the team thought is the basic stuff you should be in knowledge of and may be the most helpful. Any suggestions about the contents or stuff that you think should be included are welcomed, just let us know.
Guide Index
1.Basic Stuff: In this section you will find the common language that is related to Android / HTC Ace devices. This is fundamental for you to understand how things work.
2.Rooting: THIS IS OUT OF SERVICE...CHECK THE UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER TOOL IN PARAGRAPH 4
3.Fixing a messed bootloader: You are not good at listening advices or reading for comprehension. You flashed a froyo RUU or hboot in your GB shipped device? Thank God attn1 was around. This is the Hboot fix for you. All credits go for the Hack Kit Channel devs. I have not done anything but put it here
4.HTCDEV tool: So far, this is the best and only way to do the flashing stuff....
5.Unrooting: In case you need to take your phone to the service centre or lost your mind and want the stock rom back (is there anybody that actually does? :cyclops ) you will find everything you need to know here.
6.Flashing roms: The right steps to flash successfully a custom rom…you can´t miss it. If you do, then you haven´t read carefully.
7.Doing / Restoring a nandroid backup: In case you mess it or you don't like what you get on a new rom, a nand backup is what will save your A**. Follow the path and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel.
8.Radio / RILs: All the radio / RILs related issues, follow this or you will regret it!!
9.Kernels: Everything you always wanted to know about kernels but you didn't dare to ask. Links on line now..:silly:
10.Trouble shooting: I guess this will be the most visited section of the guide. OF COURSE YOU DIDN´T READ THE ABOVE. NOW YOU ARE HERE BUDDY FIX YOURSELF A GOOD READ
11.Customization: For those who would like to start customizing your devices, here you will find a good point of start but THIS IS JUST THE BEGUINNING [/QUOTE]
12.Battery drain issues: I HAVE FLASHED A NEW ROM AND MY BATTERY IS DRAINING WAY TO FASSSSSST!. Well that could be normal, just read and learn before you run out of battery...lol
Find the document here: http://d-h.st/Ii2
FAQ & Notice
FAQ :
What Is the Best Battery,Performance GB/ICS/JB ROM?
There is no best ROM, the opinion of each ROM is different from one person to the other, it is subjective.
Is there a recommended Radio for ROM x?
There isn't a recommended radio for any ROM, since the Radio depends where you live, it is best to test each one for a few days to see which one works best for you.
Can I Flash RIL For AOSP ROM?
No, the RIL is sense based ROM,AOSP RIL is provided in the ROM
How Can I Boot in Recovery/Bootloader if My Volume Rocker is Broken?
You must setup adb and then the command:
adb reboot recovery/bootloader
Why Don't We Have Any OFFICIAL CM9 ROM?
Because the CM team always makes everything work (camera, camcorder, etc) and since we don't have the kernel 3.0 source, there isn't any OFFICIAL CM ROM from them.
Is There Any Official Rooted Sense 3.0 ROM?
Yes, There it is
Notice when Posting On the Dev Thread :
Please Read the First Post, It Usually Stated What's Working and Not Working
Don't Post Any THANKS, just use the thanks button
Don't Even Ask ETA of the ROM, the ROM will update when it's ready
Full Wipe Is Recommended when Updating the ROM, but also can try it without (this is basic,even if it's not stated on 1st post)
ADB is easy, very simple to use. Its the CLI interface that most cannot get used to and are afraid of.
A great XDA guide/overview on ADB here. --> [GUIDE] ADB - Usage, Tips, Tricks and More!
After a full wipe including sd card, to restore a backup mount sd card to pc, create the folder "clockworkmod/backup" place backup there - unmount, flash.
Is there a way to flash a backup using adb? If yes, do the folders need to be created or not and what would the command be? I couldn't find an answer for that.
Edit: Answer is no. Why? I have no clue.
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Teichopsia said:
After a full wipe including sd card, to restore a backup mount sd card to pc, create the folder "clockworkmod/backup" place backup there - unmount, flash.
Is there a way to flash a backup using adb? If yes, do the folders need to be created or not and what would the command be? I couldn't find an answer for that.
Sent from a dream.
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ok, I will start tonight at home....let's start from the beguining...we can not forget the section...Can I mess my bootloader for not reading? YESSSSS...hahahaha
GuyInTheCorner said:
+1 adding him will get us some recognition and a solid backgroud
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD with BlackIce.
Thanks don't hurt ya know?!
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Just will have to wait for his reply. Wanna help glevitan with finding relevant threads? Pm these if you find links. I.e. not able to boot, bricked, qsoad or whatever error and so forth. The more comolete the better.
hdorius said:
Maybe i could make the FAQ that usually asked in Q&A..if u have something to add just tell me,i will add it
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Looking good. It would also be nice to add in a different post tips for porting/rom dev or whatever it is you know to do
I'll search to see if I can find anything.
Sent from a dream.
Guys I am working on the Ace guide...is quite ambitious so it will probably need a good review before seeing the light!....Will send u the document in a couple of hours!....:good:
Teichopsia said:
Bumping myself cause I can. Anyone?
@hdorius - what do you know to do? Didn't you port paranoidandroid? The faq's look good but needs some editing/correction. Where are you from? What's your first language? Do you need help with that?
@Guy - what happened buddy? In the previous page I suggested a few things. Apps? It depends what the others think. I don't see this as a standard.
@miukkuman - where are you?
By the way, where are you from? What do you know to do in the android world or what are you interested in learning?
@everyone - the idea behind this thread is:
- I rather ask each one of you to tell me what you understood which is the idea behind this thread - what you understood. If you didn't understand then I'll need to find a better way to explain myself.
Don't forget to let me know if you know the adb question above.
Sent from a dream.
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ok, before sending the file via PM, I can answer you...there's no choice of restoring a backup from adb. That is the same as flashing a Custom Rom....those files are packed in a certain way that won't be possible to be flashed in hboot (PD98IMG.zip) way.
glevitan said:
ok, before sending the file via PM, I can answer you...there's no choice of restoring a backup from adb. That is the same as flashing a Custom Rom....those files are packed in a certain way that won't be possible to be flashed in hboot (PD98IMG.zip) way.
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Thanks bub, so no can do. I don't believe in 'no can do's
Did you read my question about the hboot interface in the other thread? This, and the above question is simply a language (which I know absolutely nothing about) - there must be a way to get them talking to each other.
Sent from a dream.
I'm from Indonesia mate, my first language is Indonesian... But i also know English, so i think i dont have any problem with it...
And regarding to the FAQ, you said that it needs to some correction... And you want me to add some porting guide on it?
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hdorius said:
I'm from Indonesia mate, my first language is Indonesian... But i also know English, so i think i dont have any problem with it...
And regarding to the FAQ, you said that it needs to some correction... And you want me to add some porting guide on it?
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Anything you like really, it's your show. Porting? There are plenty guides for that. If you know any good ones I can link them in the third post. Can you look through the ones I posted to see which are good and if there are any ones that are repetitive or if there are better ones than the ones I posted? Especially the flashable zip link, since I don't know anything about that, maybe there is a betrer one or a guide or a tool for it?
I'll pm you in about 20 minutes.
Sent from a dream.
I found a good link, it should be added in third post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380385
All thanks to Wacco (Waccopedia)
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Greets to all
Greets to all from another noob. Well, not a complete noob but a noob here on XDA given my few posts. My deep thanks for allowing a thread where sometimes there just might not be such a thing as a stupid question but honest ones instead,.... Hoping I can contribute something here as an owner of a softbank DHD here in Kyoto, Japan aka the 001HT. I spend alot of time trying to dig up general info from all over the i'net to help answer questions especially for ACE owners so I hope that might be of some help. Grant Barker's homepage is a great resource, (hope its allowed to mention that~). My first minor contribution------ 64GB MicroSD card usage with the DHD. It may already be well-known but for all us noobs who aren't too sure make no mistake..... I have the SanDisk Class 10 64GB MicroSD card and it works flawlessly in my DHD. Since I like to pack lots of MP3's and several full-length HD movies into my handset (helps keep the kids quiet on long drives ) being able to have that much storage space is a blessing! So, just to reiterate, 64GB microSD card--- no problems!
Blasphemer666 said:
Greets to all from another noob. Well, not a complete noob but a noob here on XDA given my few posts. My deep thanks for allowing a thread where sometimes there just might not be such a thing as a stupid question but honest ones instead,.... Hoping I can contribute something here as an owner of a softbank DHD here in Kyoto, Japan aka the 001HT. I spend alot of time trying to dig up general info from all over the i'net to help answer questions especially for ACE owners so I hope that might be of some help. Grant Barker's homepage is a great resource, (hope its allowed to mention that~). My first minor contribution------ 64GB MicroSD card usage with the DHD. It may already be well-known but for all us noobs who aren't too sure make no mistake..... I have the SanDisk Class 10 64GB MicroSD card and it works flawlessly in my DHD. Since I like to pack lots of MP3's and several full-length HD movies into my handset (helps keep the kids quiet on long drives ) being able to have that much storage space is a blessing! So, just to reiterate, 64GB microSD card--- no problems!
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Thanks for the feedback Blashpemer666, hopefully you manage to refrain yourself in front of the kids.
Absolutely, we were all noobs, still are and probably remain being noobs. There is too much information to cover and too little time to do it in. We here are just trying to return to the community what they have given us by helping the new members whenever they need it and whenever we can, to the best of our knowledge, by pointing them in the right direction. Any and all suggestions are welcome.
Check the second post, it has been updated.
@glevitan, pm.ed you.
@hdorius, same to you. There are a few mistakes in the pm I sent.
Listen, I can read fine and understand instruction.
the phone is rooted but each time I try to install a ROM it gives me a new error, the last one was library cannot found.
I tried about 10 different roms from here, each failed. Either its stuck on boot screen or doesnt let me pass boot menu no matter what.
I guess I got the devils phone.
Any suggestions?
I don't know why your phone is crazy, but maybe flashing the SBF again will help?
auctsbe x651
sack148 said:
I don't know why your phone is crazy, but maybe flashing the SBF again will help?
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Which SBF? the rom's? I tried, same BS everytime.
I just use this ****ty looking 2.3.6 I just want the phone to look nicer cuz I hate that too-androidish look.
And a nice smooth scrolling in the menu will be nice aswell.
i'm really sorry to ask and i dont mean to offend you but we need a starting point:
- did you try to install zip via stock recovery perhaps
- did you install 2ndinit?
- defy or defy+?
- did you wipe/factory reset before flashong the zip?
- do you maybe have bl7 kernel?
actually, sounds really bad but hopefully there is a way for you!
Please list the exact steps you followed to root and get a recovery and also mention what you did in recovery.. don't worry, we will help you as much as we can
And also list some of the roms you tried flashing..
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measel said:
i'm really sorry to ask and i dont mean to offend you but we need a starting point:
- did you try to install zip via stock recovery perhaps
- did you install 2ndinit?
- defy or defy+?
- did you wipe/factory reset before flashong the zip?
- do you maybe have bl7 kernel?
actually, sounds really bad but hopefully there is a way for you!
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Yes
Yes
Defy+
Yes
I have 2.3.6 I'm not sure what BL7 is
I'm not a pro. But first I'd like you to
- install 2ndinit again
- reboot and press Vol-Down when the blue light appears
- use custom recovery do install your preferred custom ROM. (only use the ones for defy+)
you can NOT install custom roms from stock recovery!
measel said:
I'm not a pro. But first I'd like you to
- install 2ndinit again
- reboot and press Vol-Down when the blue light appears
- use custom recovery do install your preferred custom ROM. (only use the ones for defy+)
you can NOT install custom roms from stock recovery!
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Should I install a specific version of 2ndinit Defy? Can you give me the program, I'm confused what to download.
What do you mean stock recovery?
And another Q: If I was to successfully flash a rom, should I use GB or flash to JB?
stock recovery = shut down > power + vol-down
custom recovery = reboot > vol-down when blue light
no specific 2ndinit. just use the one that is mentioned in FAQ or howto install...
or here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
If you don't know the difference between stock and custom recovery you might want to start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
...and might want to rethink your first sentence:
Hesanka said:
Listen, I can read fine and understand instruction.
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measel said:
stock recovery = shut down > power + vol-down
custom recovery = reboot > vol-down when blue light
no specific 2ndinit. just use the one that is mentioned in FAQ or howto install...
or here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
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I have a few more Q:
Do I need to upgrade my phone to 4.1.2 before flashing a ROM that is 4.1.2 or will that be the upgrade?
Which ROM do you suggest for me use because I am not very decisive about it.
What do I need to do for this ROM to work for me? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
I have GB 3.2.6 rooted with DFP 231
1. no. there is no official 4.1.2 for defy.
2. i would recommend cm7.
use a version that is for the defyplus and you dont have anything to prepare more than you will find in the howto's.
check this thread for cm7 builds: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458729
CM7 nightlys | info collection [update: 12-12-07 Maniac] + PDroid
and please give some feedback what helped and what was the problem.
measel said:
1. no. there is no official 4.1.2 for defy.
2. i would recommend cm7.
use a version that is for the defyplus and you dont have anything to prepare more than you will find in the howto's.
check this thread for cm7 builds: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458729
CM7 nightlys | info collection [update: 12-12-07 Maniac] + PDroid
and please give some feedback what helped and what was the problem.
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Ok, tried to do this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447
with CM7 nightlys and my phone is stuck after rebooting on the stupid motorola boot sign
I'm gonna have to flash with RSD again. why does motorola has to make stupid devices EACH YEAR?!
You need to get some things STRAIGHT.
Hesanka said:
Ok, tried to do this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447
with CM7 nightlys and my phone is stuck after rebooting on the stupid motorola boot sign
I'm gonna have to flash with RSD again. why does motorola has to make stupid devices EACH YEAR?!
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Listen to this. It is not Motorola's fault that you have soft bricked your device. It is entirely your fault. Hundreds of other guys have successfully flashed their device with the ROM of their choice and are having no problems. Maybe you should read threads before trying to flash ROMs. If you do not know the basics of rooting and modding android, you should not attempt to do it. And if you have flashed your device without doing the neccessary homework, please do not expect help from the community. Please educate yourself to the required level before attempting to do such things. There are several well written and comprehensive guides and tutorials on the cyanogen wiki as well as here on xda which can answer all your questions for sure. For your own sake, please read them. Your posts in this thread highlight your severe lack of rudimentary knowledge about android. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because everyone was like that at some point. BUT, we read and we read and if we didn't understand, we read some more!
Please understand that this is a community where we cannot help you if you do not help yourself. I'm sorry to to tell you this, but you are being a jerk by criticising Moto and whining that things aren't working when it is you who has done things in the incorrect manner. So stop being a n00b, stop whining, go read some threads ( ALL THE STICKY ONES, MINIMUM ! AS WELL AS THE ONES ON THE CYANOGENMOD WIKI ! ) and educate yourself. Just because your friend has modded his device does not mean that you can too.It requires a certain level of expertise which can be easily gained, provided that you are ready to be an eager learner. Remember this, TO GET GOOD REPLIES, YOU HAVE TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS.
Get rid of the attitude, --- learn the basics --- and then come back. If you are still having a genuine problem, then we will help you.
PS: You mentioned that you are going to flash using RSD lite. PLEASE flash the appropriate SBF file. If you flash the wrong SBF, it can lead to some serious problems. Choose wisely. And if you make ****s in that too, please do not start a new thread, refer to the pre-existing help threads. Good luck.
And please do not ask for the links to the above mentioned threads, use the search function and your common sense.
viki1296 said:
Listen to this. It is not Motorola's fault that you have soft bricked your device. It is entirely your fault. Hundreds of other guys have successfully flashed their device with the ROM of their choice and are having no problems. Maybe you should read threads before trying to flash ROMs. If you do not know the basics of rooting and modding android, you should not attempt to do it. And if you have flashed your device without doing the neccessary homework, please do not expect help from the community. Please educate yourself to the required level before attempting to do such things. There are several well written and comprehensive guides and tutorials on the cyanogen wiki as well as here on xda which can answer all your questions for sure. For your own sake, please read them. Your posts in this thread highlight your severe lack of rudimentary knowledge about android. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because everyone was like that at some point. BUT, we read and we read and if we didn't understand, we read some more!
Please understand that this is a community where we cannot help you if you do not help yourself. I'm sorry to to tell you this, but you are being a jerk by criticising Moto and whining that things aren't working when it is you who has done things in the incorrect manner. So stop being a n00b, stop whining, go read some threads ( ALL THE STICKY ONES, MINIMUM ! AS WELL AS THE ONES ON THE CYANOGENMOD WIKI ! ) and educate yourself. Just because your friend has modded his device does not mean that you can too.It requires a certain level of expertise which can be easily gained, provided that you are ready to be an eager learner. Remember this, TO GET GOOD REPLIES, YOU HAVE TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS.
Get rid of the attitude, --- learn the basics --- and then come back. If you are still having a genuine problem, then we will help you.
PS: You mentioned that you are going to flash using RSD lite. PLEASE flash the appropriate SBF file. If you flash the wrong SBF, it can lead to some serious problems. Choose wisely. And if you make ****s in that too, please do not start a new thread, refer to the pre-existing help threads. Good luck.
And please do not ask for the links to the above mentioned threads, use the search function and your common sense.
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I've read well over 30 topics here ENTIRELY and none helped, I've done everything according to the guides, simply when I start to boot my device after a ROM flashing it has a new problem, I just gave up on motorola, tomorrow I'm going to return this piece of rubbish and get myself a SGS2 Because I've had enough of Motorola.
Thanks and no thanks to all, I've had enough of this rubbish.
good luck with your new device.
Well then..
Hesanka said:
I've read well over 30 topics here ENTIRELY and none helped, I've done everything according to the guides, simply when I start to boot my device after a ROM flashing it has a new problem, I just gave up on motorola, tomorrow I'm going to return this piece of rubbish and get myself a SGS2 Because I've had enough of Motorola.
Thanks and no thanks to all, I've had enough of this rubbish.
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Okay, wish you better luck with your SGS2, try harder with it.. And please don't call the Defy a piece of rubbish because it is a lovely phone, infact I don't know any other device which can boot custom kernels on a locked bootloader :laugh:
And if you manage to brick the SGS2 also, perhaps it's best that you get an iPhone next time.
My escape route when in trouble!
Was reading thru some threads when I came across some newcomers crying out for help stuck in bootloops while flashing custom roms.
Since I was free.Thought maybe write my own experiences down and what I did to get out of trouble.
Hope this not so short essay help someone new to XDA.
Let me begin with ClockWorkMod recovery.
I for one,have installed two types of Recovery to be on the safe side.
Anyways having the two does not in anyway hinder either.
Therefore it is only and added advantage.
If that wasn't enough there are kernels which come with preinstalled CWM of their own.
At the moment I've got 3.
I switch roms very often.Many a times in the beggining I often made mistakes and always had to redo the whole procedure all over again.
That means from scratch.Flashing custom roms,rooting and then delve in CWM -
X-Parts by pvyPARTS
which I had to keep downloading again and again from market.
Real pain in the ass!
Now where did I stop in the procedure,yes,after CWM installation,fastboot flash the kernel and now use the CWM to flash the roms and the other zips.
Then came across another recovery tool.
RecoverX by LEDelete.
Awesome tool.Does the same more or less as X-Parts except you need to run this on your PC and bind it to your device.
Color is bright neon blue.Very nice visually.
So now what are my choices.Do I retain one and let go of the other.
Made some enquiries about having 2 recoveries.Feedback,no problems. Sweeeeet. I'll take both!
Then came the kernels with their own recoveries i. e -
mechmetal for FusioN kernels
Did the dancing act at the beginning and very stable versions now.
Thank you.
I'll have that too.The more the better since it was not corrupting my device in any ways.
Presently,very few mistakes in flashing roms. So less frequent flashing stock roms. Mind you,it does require me,at times,to do complete clean installs once in awhile.
For that I have learnt a few tricks.
Flashing stock roms-the usual flashtool.
Since I have the bootloader unlocked,rooting takes less than 2 seconds. Simply a marvellous tool.Thanks to:
AutoRoot by bazoocase
Can't escape downloading from Google play store though OR is there a way?
There is!
Am learning that now but I'm actually trying to get only my most needed apps such as Titanium backup,Astro File Manager, and one or two more apps with its contents and data.
Jesus H Christ,this is only the beggining.There's a whole lot more to learn.But I'm liking it!
So newcomers,this might help you in your stay here at XDA.If via this lengthly passage I am able to help A newcomer I am satisfied.
Note:This are pointers for newcomers who have problems during flashing custom roms and start CRYing when stuck in bootloops.
PS: All the above are true facts.
I learnt by making mistakes here and there.
I did a lot of reading,searching,sending out PM's not getting replies and reading,searching and putting forward questions all over sometimes in wrong threads too.
For that I had been abused and bombarded collectively.But hey,that made me be extra careful.
These would happen to you but don't give up.Practice makes perfect.Don't shy off from making decisions.
You are already here.People can teach your everything but at the end of the day you are the one who is going to press that execute button.
It will for work for some cos they did exactly what was needed to be done.It might not work for some cos they didn't.
[email protected]
Xperia Arc LT15i
(nowadays it reads LT18i)
Custom ROM: FXP206 CM10
Custom Kernel: Arc FusioN 4.3
Bootloader: Unlocked
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using xda app-developers app
LreadyIt is good to see a senior member-op putting up a thread like this without being a know it all, smartass twat! I'm sure all the noobies will appreciate it! I personally worked it all out with a full month of reading. I have a bad temper and did not feel like getting abused and tyrated for asking perfectly legitimate questions! I say the same to all who are having probs and are new, keep reading,asking questions and don't give up! Six months ago I couldn't even navigate these forums properly, now I test Roms and kernels for devs! My biggest tip is find a kernel with CWM preinstalled and prerooted custom Roms! Remember one thing too, Titanium Backup is your best friend and is worth paying for the pro version! I don't like anything that isn't free but TB is worth the money!
To the OP here I think it would be good to insert a nit more detail on how to do these things and use these apps in your thread for those not in the know, maybe even some links! It's alot of work but I think noobies will be grateful! If you want some help to complete a noob friendly thread for flashing/rooting etc. PM me and I will help you write it up! We will prob get berated by others because of similar threads, but I have found them not noob friendly or incorrect! The only reason I still a junior member is because I have not bothered to make posts as have not had anything useful to say till recently!
thenks
sandroidnz01 said:
[For Newcomers]Please read
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I really wish more would.
Jaffa_79 said:
To the OP here I think it would be good to insert a nit more detail on how to do these things and use these apps in your thread for those not in the know, maybe even some links!
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Similar to the existing stickys, which are highly under utilized by new members, and as shown on a few occasions, by senior members too. Read Read Read, practice practice practice, is the only way anyone is going to learn, and I know because it's what I had to do for similar reasons to you when I knew absolutely nothing when I first joined, and if you're serious about learning how to tweak and mod Android then you need to be prepared to spend an hour or two sat at your computer, as you're not going to learn everything over night, in a week or even a month, and 3 years later you may still be learning, as I continue to.
RecoverX instalation problem
sandroidnz01 said:
My escape route when in trouble!
Was reading thru some threads when I came across some newcomers crying out for help stuck in bootloops while flashing custom roms.
Since I was free.Thought maybe write my own experiences down and what I did to get out of trouble.
Hope this not so short essay help someone new to XDA.
Let me begin with ClockWorkMod recovery.
I for one,have installed two types of Recovery to be on the safe side.
Anyways having the two does not in anyway hinder either.
Therefore it is only and added advantage.
If that wasn't enough there are kernels which come with preinstalled CWM of their own.
At the moment I've got 3.
I switch roms very often.Many a times in the beggining I often made mistakes and always had to redo the whole procedure all over again.
That means from scratch.Flashing custom roms,rooting and then delve in CWM -
X-Parts by pvyPARTS
which I had to keep downloading again and again from market.
Real pain in the ass!
Now where did I stop in the procedure,yes,after CWM installation,fastboot flash the kernel and now use the CWM to flash the roms and the other zips.
Then came across another recovery tool.
RecoverX by LEDelete.
Awesome tool.Does the same more or less as X-Parts except you need to run this on your PC and bind it to your device.
Color is bright neon blue.Very nice visually.
So now what are my choices.Do I retain one and let go of the other.
Made some enquiries about having 2 recoveries.Feedback,no problems. Sweeeeet. I'll take both!
Then came the kernels with their own recoveries i. e -
mechmetal for FusioN kernels
Did the dancing act at the beginning and very stable versions now.
Thank you.
I'll have that too.The more the better since it was not corrupting my device in any ways.
Presently,very few mistakes in flashing roms. So less frequent flashing stock roms. Mind you,it does require me,at times,to do complete clean installs once in awhile.
For that I have learnt a few tricks.
Flashing stock roms-the usual flashtool.
Since I have the bootloader unlocked,rooting takes less than 2 seconds. Simply a marvellous tool.Thanks to:
AutoRoot by bazoocase
Can't escape downloading from Google play store though OR is there a way?
There is!
Am learning that now but I'm actually trying to get only my most needed apps such as Titanium backup,Astro File Manager, and one or two more apps with its contents and data.
Jesus H Christ,this is only the beggining.There's a whole lot more to learn.But I'm liking it!
So newcomers,this might help you in your stay here at XDA.If via this lengthly passage I am able to help A newcomer I am satisfied.
Note:This are pointers for newcomers who have problems during flashing custom roms and start CRYing when stuck in bootloops.
PS: All the above are true facts.
I learnt by making mistakes here and there.
I did a lot of reading,searching,sending out PM's not getting replies and reading,searching and putting forward questions all over sometimes in wrong threads too.
For that I had been abused and bombarded collectively.But hey,that made me be extra careful.
These would happen to you but don't give up.Practice makes perfect.Don't shy off from making decisions.
You are already here.People can teach your everything but at the end of the day you are the one who is going to press that execute button.
It will for work for some cos they did exactly what was needed to be done.It might not work for some cos they didn't.
[email protected]
Xperia Arc LT15i
(nowadays it reads LT18i)
Custom ROM: FXP206 CM10
Custom Kernel: Arc FusioN 4.3
Bootloader: Unlocked
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using xda app-developers app
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Hello everyone
I am new to the forum so I am not sure if I am in the right place. I have rotted my xperia arc and I cannot install the CWM. I have tried through Xparts and through the RecoverX (RecoverX seems not to be able to download the recovery). I have done the same thing in the past without havin any probelems. This is the first time that I cannot install it. Any ideas?
Thanks for helping
Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
jcnbama said:
Hello everyone,
I am new to the Nexus 4 community however not new to XDA. I have survived an HD2 and also a T989 GSII. I have had so much success with XDA and I am looking forward to working with community of folks over here. I got a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) to enjoy the Android experience. However the more I look over it the more I feel it lacks some of the features that I enjoyed with previous custom roms like Toggles on the notification panel for example. I know there are many apps that will accomplish the same thing but why use all these 3rd party apps when you can flash a decent rom and get a better experience with often better battery life. I am coming from an All Star Developer ROM that is a compilation ROM ( CM10, AOKP & PA )
I apologize for the rambling. I need to know:
1: What is the difference between Original Android Dev and Android Development forums? GSII did not have two forums so I was a little confused.
2: For a genuine NEXUS device, are there still bugs in ROMS? RR, SOD, GPS not working, etc? This is not a huge issue with most GSII roms I just wondered if you guys experience this at all with this phone being stock Android already. I wouldn't think this would be the case.
3: I have done my research and I am ready to move on with rooting and probably Romming. Is there anything else maybe that would be noteworthy that is specific to the Nexus line of devices. This is a vague question so don't worry with it too much. I am just curious.
Thanks everyone! I can't wait till Monday!
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1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
Vangelis13 said:
1. "Development is classified as original work and/or documented edits and changes made to others work (with their permission) that makes it your own.
Stock ROM dumps that are modified (deodexed, etc.) from the manufacturer's original intent and then repackaged together classifies as development.
Kernel's and Recovery obviously classify as development as they are modified and compiled from source""
2. Minor bugs here & there, nothing like the ones you're used of. Read the OP & last 20 posts in the thread.
3. follow the link in my signature, do not use toolkits!!
Good luck, it's an amazing phone!
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Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
jcnbama said:
Thanks for the info! I guess more specifically I need to know the difference between the "Original" Development thread and just the "Development" thread. Should I refer to one more than another?
Also, in reference to toolkits. I am just curious where the issue lies with that? Because honestly that is exactly what I was going to do. I am not lazy, just efficient lol. I figure why do alot of manual driver installs and command prompts if someone created a program that would do it for you? (I reference links below) Is it faulty software? Badly written programs etc? I would think there would be more room for human error when doing it yourself vs. something automated. What are your thoughts on this? Has anyone else had luck using the toolkits in the links? or any other rooting toolkits? Thanks again!
http://lifehacker.com/5979763/how-to-root-the-lg-nexus-4#13634416619583&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":640}
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
Vangelis13 said:
Because, you learn something very important while rooting & unlocking your phone. Human error is covered for by the step by step guide. Human error while using the toolkit, you're stuck trying to understand what the fck happened. Learn fastboot mate. Learn to control your device to a 100%, learn to fix it if it's stuck. Understand what happens with "fastboot OEM unlock". Do you know what that means btw..?
The difference between Original Development & Development is in the quote I posted above. Paranoid Android = Original.
TWRP Recovery = Original
"XYZ" Rom based on cm 10.1 + abcd theme = Development.
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Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
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Hey thanks again. I appreciate the input. I have more to learn in the NEXUS forum. I am used to ODIN and other forms of Samsung software so I will certainly read over the tutorial and absorb information. It will also help me to share my knowledge with others.
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If nothing else, you owe it to yourself as a proud n4 owner!!