Help with installing the Samsung Phone App on LG V20

Help with installing the Samsung Phone App on LG V20 - LG V20 Questions & Answers

I'm running LG V20 on T-Mobile with h91810D build LH-H918 Deodex NRD90M rom rooted with unlocked bootloader and trying to install the samsung phone app simply because I love how clean the dialer is on the Galaxy S8 with the fading in-call background.
I'm running into an issue trying to install the dialer on my phone with the error "The package conflicts with an existing package by the same name"
I've tried all I could to uninstall all the phone related apps on the V20 that I would think that could conflict with the install going as far as completely destroying the calling functions on the phone (thank god for backups) but still running into the same error.
I've tried all I can even as far as attempting to resign the file even thought I'm clueless as to how any of it works so I'm sure I did it wrong so now I turn it over to the XDA community to try and help to see if it is possible or if samsung locks down their apps so well that it's not possible.
I am unable to upload the APK here so I'm sharing a link to where I installed it from (APKMirror) for anyone who wants to give it a shot and offer any advice they can to see if I can get this working.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/samsung-phone/samsung-phone-2-1-02-40-release/samsung-phone-2-1-02-40-android-apk-download/

I'm sorry if this sounds critical but this is like the 5th thread I've run across in 10 minutes with someone who has an LG V20 but wants (for some reason that is beyond my ability to comprehend at this late/early hour) to install Samsung bloatware on it. Does LG not pack enough of their own bloatware into their phones that now we must port it over from the undisputed king of useless space consuming bloatware? Seriously. I'm baffled. AF. I just came from the SM-G935T which was so annoying that once the display got seriously effed TF up I opted to finance an entirely different phone instead of throwing $175 down the drain to get someone else's refurbished S7 Edge. So now I'm a year out from paying off my overrated Edge, which I refuse to drop almost 2 bills into just so it doesn't slice my delicate digits up when I'm playing Archery King At best I'd possibly get it fixed for the purposes of an immediate trade-in/upgrade but seriously, who would want it? Janky root? ☒ Weird rounded off edges making an already delicate display even more delicate? ☒ Bootloader locked tf down like it's a goddamn iPhone 8 (or whatever they're on )? ☒ 32 pitiful GB of storage, half of which ( OK slight exaggeration but for reals, yo ) is packed from floor to rafters with every conceivable type of useless, non-descript, shady AF Sammy/T-Mo bloatware? ☒ Aaaaand the list goes on. And on. And f*****g on. And still, I wouldn't trade my new LG V20 for two S8+ AND a Google Pixel (make it an XL, a OP5 plus some accessories of value and we'll talk ). SO PLEASE FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE TO INSTALL REALLY GENERIC SAMSUNG GARBAGE ON YOUR LG V20?! I'll trade you my busted up S7 Edge for your obviously unappreciated (or at least underappreciated) LG V20 :fingers-crossed: And the Incipio case that looks great and doesn't interfere with all that Edge swiping action, if that's your bag, nor does it interfere with the pavement smashing every last oversaturated glossy AMOLED inch, you know, ALL 5.5 laggy inches (yeah, Ikr :laugh: that's all ) of that glass (front and back btw - because that's how I do). There's bound to be 1000 better 3rd party substitutions available for any given Samsung app you're seeking so desperately to inject into a perfectly non-infected LG. I've lost all understanding of the world we live in. You should just buy a Samsung. Get it out of your system and be better for it. Ask around XDA. Tons of helpful types with many potential suggestions that will more than suit whatever bizarre needs and wants a guy (or girl. Or guy-girl/girl-guy. I'm open minded af) might have. Seriously though. Your phone probably will not accept anything from Sammy on basic principle alone. That's just f*****g weird s**t, my strange interweb comrade :cyclops:

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Bye bye LG - My short love affair with the G3

** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Shifters123 said:
"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Thanks. I do love Android. I love the freedom.
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Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface

markthomson1404 said:
Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface
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Thanks. I'm on Google Launcher at the moment. I really like Microsoft Arrow launcher in a way but it needs more customisation options.
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Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.

It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!

Simone98RC said:
Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.
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I was in the hardware is important camp and just wipe the software but with Android Pay launching and requiring you to be unrooted, I need the software to be as perfect as possible stock.
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RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Thanks. Amazon should hopefully deliver it in a few hours so I'll report back later
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that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!

superawesomeme said:
** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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that totally sucks! I want iPhone users to see what's so great with Androids. I would actually recommend the G3 to any iPhone user trying to switch to Android. It blows you didn't have a good experience as I love the phone so much I won't upgrade because this phone is a beast. With fulmics 4.2 MM, xposed and G3 tweaksbox your phone would have been a better experience. I myself want to try an iPhone but I just can't let this phone go lol. Well I hope this bad experience didn't want to make you go back as the new G5 might change your mind :fingers-crossed:

GTRanushka said:
that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!
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I tried official Marshmallow for a few weeks, the battery life was incredible and it was so smooth. I think that's what I find so frustrating, LG make some amazing tech, the specs are top notch and they don't age/slowdown as fast as others but there are so many proprietary modifications to the OS that it's put me off LG.
It's obviously just a personal preference but I just find their design aesthetic unpleasing, like a hybrid of Kit Kat (the dull colours and oversized status/nav icons) and Lollipop (material design, but poorly executed in this case).
The heavy skinning was the reason I avoided Samsung too. Again incredible hardware. These companies seem to take the same half-assed approach to UI design as Microsoft. A jumble of different styles, moving forwards with good ideas but poorly executed with remnants of the past hanging about.
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RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Omg it's amazing. I few things I miss from the LG...
- Power button position (I'll get used to it)
- Double tap to wake
- Wireless charging
Other than that it's practically perfect (so far)...
- The display is incredible. I'm on about 15-20% brightness and it's so vivid and clear. I had to have the LG between 50-60%.
- Snapchat video filters work, inc slow-mo, fast, reverse (these didn't work on LG)
- Moto display for alerts, you just wave your hand over the front for a power friendly notification screen.
- Pure Android experience so no ugly status bar.
- Super fast burst mode on camera (plus improved low light mode)
- Front flash
- Beautiful shape and rear texture
- Gestures such as double twist for camera mode, karate chop for flashlight, etc
This is the droid I was looking for!
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Why I can't decide on the iPhone 6s Plus or the Galaxy S7 Edge

TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?

s7 edge....just this.

Hey friend. Just go with S7 Edge and it will not disappoint you again. I am totally love my S7e. It's very very fast and very long battery with very nice display.
Just few issue in software like random freeze and reboot (1 per week) and it will be solved by software update.

This is the first time a Samsung device surprises me having SOT like this. When S7 (not needs root) a little tweaked (no greenify or 3rd party app) has excellent battery life. I've used every samsung device since S2 (including note series), but this time they solved the battery issue. I'm on LTE network and SOT is more than 4, 4.5 hours.
Update of the samsung devices is not very well so Note has MM yet available, so don't expect N upgrades soon.
I have 6S plus, Nexus 6P and S7 Edge which I use as daily drivers (2 of them are always online). The question is do you want to use ios or android. (as I said this time samsung did the work well)
6S plus' camera is excellent you dont notice a pixel or low resolution but samsung's better. Camerawise S7E>6S+>6P
Screen quality is best on s7e and you will be happy to use (unless curved screen glare does bother you)
As far as I noticed samsung did a very good job on s7e.
Hope this helps you to decide to choose.
naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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Well, the big question (at least for me), if you'd take the edge (I can do that too[emoji14]), would you get over the already present anixity?
Because if you're not, even when there aren't the faults you experienced before, if you look close enough there can be glitches found on every device (not just talking about s7 edge, but devices from every manufacturer).
Of my own experience, I haven't got any of the problems you described, but I read from others having them in here. Some defectife units are pretty normal at such a big amount of shipped devices, but it's always hard to tell how big the percentage is of reported faults.
Let's play a bit.
Let's consider that people in here are just a fraktion of people owning the phone, let's assume 5% of all users. From those let's assume 10% (which probably is much) have an error of some kind (because there are many lurkers as well and people are much quicker in crying out load, if something isn't working as they are with telling all is fine), which would make 0.5% at all units. Now let's quadruple that amount to take people not being in here with such errors into consideration and where at 2%.
That was not even close to being sientific accurate, but I guess you get what I'm up to, the chance of you getting another unit with those faults is rather small. Also, when you're from canada you get the exynos variant, which, considering reports, has way less problems than the snapdragon variant.
Another thing, why just those 2 options, at least from what you want the G5 would be an option as well. Expandable storage, nice camera (comparable to the s7, from what I've seen it has the upper hand at light shots, while the s7 handles low light better) and maybe worse battery, but you can take a spare with you. For sure only if you're fine with dropping the IP rating, design and wireless charging for the modular design and from what I've seen it's kind of fragile compared to other flagships. Or what about the announced Huawei P9, it may have not such a good SoC, but at least from what's announced it should have an exceptional camera performance).

naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
What the hell do I do?
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Buy the s7 edge again. Had the same shutdown with no button working in the first few days too, I agree it was scary... after an update I haven't had a single reboot.
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naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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Get the global version GS7 Edge

naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
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Wait another week and see if the HTC 10 is any good.

I have the S7EDGE, none of those issues man. I can tell yoy i had the same experience with sgs4. And man was it painful, way to slow and lags like there is no tomorrow, which made me jump ship and i bought OPO. Now that iam back here at samsung i couldnt be happier. So i would advise you to make the purchase again, because if you get a good unit, which im pretty confident you will, you will have the time of your life

I have a similar feeling about Samsung. They have great hardware but software is awful. Whenever I tried Samsung, I ended up disappointed and said never again. I was using 6s+ until recently when I got S7 Edge and it is really a great phone overall. I know though that I'm not keeping it for a long time and will look later at the next nexus or iPhone 7. The reason is that it will get Android N 6 months later that Nexus and will have software issues and might probably lag as well. Addressing lag by adding memory and better processor is not a smart solution as it will not last long
Why I did switch now? the only reason is the size of the 6s+, it is very big while the S7 Edge is compact. I'm looking forward for a nice Nexus this year, if not then probably iphone 7+ if it will be smaller in size.

I switched from iPhone 6 Plus back to android S7 edge. Iphone 6 plus 6s plus are identical minus the camara n few other things. Didnt think i would ditch apple but the s7 edge is a beauty!!! Loving that i now can connect my push2tv in my truck and send vc txt as eith the iphone i could not. I hate apple with those restrictions. Annoying that i would need to buy an apple tv.
S7 edge ftw!!!

Be together...not the same.
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You obviously want the consistency of Apple; nothing wrong with that. After 5 years of Android i switched from my s6 edge to iPhone 6s Plus... And loved it for the first month because i had just been so fed up with the tiny battery and horrible RAM management of the S6E. but after that first month... I got bored. iOS is a bore in every way possible to me, the screen looks like sh*t after being used to years of AMOLED screens, and i noticed a horrific drop off in picture quality to the point where I just didn't feel like taking pictures anymore. 3D touch was cool... Until i realized i almost never used it.
Do what you need to do man, nothing wrong if you want to join the dark side. but if you're anything like me at all, you'll always feel the call to the light.
Be together, not the same.

First let me quickly say that I have not had any of the issues you seem to have had with the S7E. After this latest update from Tmobile I'm getting insane battery life. Close to 9 hours SOT and 3% drain per 8 hours in standby.
Now onto the 6S+. I have been an android user since the G1. I loved everything Android and never thought I'd buy an iPhone but last year I decided to give one a try. I wanted to see what it was like and they finally released a phone with a nice sized display. I purchased the 6+ last June and the the 6S+ in September. I thought they were nice phones and the software felt fluid but I grew bored and aggravated . I'm not going to name everything that aggravated me but I will give you two examples that did. The simplest task of making an alarm app work somehow isn't so simple on iOS. Since Apple doesn't give 3rd party apps access to the API you need to make sure you open the alarm app ever night before you fall asleep. Not only that but you also can't have your phone set to vibrate or silent because then you won't hear the alarm. I just feel like every 3rd party app on iOS works as a separate entity rather than some of them working with the phone like one cohesive unit as some do on Android.
When it comes to the Apple app store it is a jumbled up mess. Never in a million years would I have expected it to look the way it does. Good luck finding an app unless you know it's exact name because the search feature inside the app store straight up sucks. Its also a pain to navigate through. So after a few days with the app store I was missing Google Play so bad. I missed those nights when I was bored and would just sit in bed browsing through the Play Store looking for that next cool app to use. The rating system and app review system set in place on Google play are also much better than the Apple app store.
Don't even get me started with 3rd party keyboards on iOS? Go home Apple..... You're drunk!!!
I'd also just like to add one more petpeve of mine. There is no back button. Apple expects 3rd party apps to implement a feature that allows to to swipe to the left in order to go back to the previous screen but sometimes it doesn't work. Not to mention it can get pretty hard when trying to reach the top left corner of a 6S+ while using it with one hand.
I'll end this by saying it was not what I was expecting. Apple fan boys make it seem like iOS apps are so much better than Android apps. I didn't find that to be true at all. Yea there are some apps on iOS that look really good and perform nicely but there is no difference between the popular apps you're likely going to use everyday. If anything I'd say Android has better more versatile apps since they can actually work with the phone rather than something completely separate.
At the end of the day Android had more pros than cons so I decided to use the G7E as my coming home party phone. I lasted a little over half a year with my iphones and at that 6 month mark I was just bord and aggravated. I don't think ever be going back unless Apple makes some major changes.
By the way, in regards to battery life my S7E destroys my 6S+ in every way. It doesn't matter what your using them for. The S7E should inhalate the 6S+ in battery life.
Oh an 3d touch is a gimmick at this point. If implemented correctly I can see it being useful but I feel like Apple just half assed it.
Good luck in your phone endeavors.
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I just abandoned an iPhone 6s+ for the Edge and, for the most part, am very happy. The only issue I have related to the compass and the need to recalibrate after every restart. Absent the recalibration, GPS accuracy suffers. Not sure if this is specific to my phone or signs or a more general issue. I'm told the Galaxy 6 also had this issue. I do miss the Apple ecosystem integration as I also use a MacBook Air.

Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.

DroidBiteApple said:
Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.
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yes, all of us are the same but we want the most powerful and newest device so we forgot about it again and again I'm afraid I'll regret it again 6 months from now

I just got the S7 Edge (Exynos = International version) last week, and I couldn't be happier! I moved from a Sony device which has been a real champ through my two years with it (and it's still kicking ass), but I felt like I needed something new. Nothing caught my attention before Samsung announced the S7 Edge. It was, and is, freaking beautiful. I was close to buying the S6 Edge last year, but I didn't do it because of the battery, but this year, hell yeah.
The display, as you already know, is amazing. It's the best mobile display in the world today, and you know it. It has an SD card slot which supports up to 2 TB of memory (Samsung says 200 GB since that's the biggest one you'll get today, but it supports 2 TB). The battery, ooh - the battery. It's ridiculous. My Exynos device just won't die in a day. I'm a medium to heavy user, but good lord, I'm struggling to get it under 50% after a day. I really am.
A buddy of mine has the 6S Plus. He "hates me" now, since I got the S7 Edge. He can clearly see that he has the inferior device. The iPhone is still very very good - for a certain type of people! But some people expect somewhat more out of a 1000 dollar device (yes, that' what I paid for mine), and I have never held a mobile device that has felt as expensive as the Edge. I have the gold version on top of that, so it feels like handling a gold phone (without the weight of gold, of course) when I pick it up. It is fantastic.
Bloat? Mine's not a carrier version so I don't have any carrier bloat, but I do have the Samsung bloat. Luckily, it can mostly be disabled, so that's not an issue. Most of the bloat doesn't take space either since Samsung uses "shells", i.e they don't install whole apps at start, but Chrome f.ex is only 10KB on my device when I disable it (I prefer Samsung Internet with adblock), and it won't "balloon" up to its regular 100MB or whatever unless you update it through the Play Store. It's the same with Facebook etc. The device also comes with 4 GB of RAM, but 512 of those are dedicated to the GPU, so we have 3.5 GB for applications.
I came from a relatively bloat-free Sony device, scared for the Samsung bloat-monster, but I freaking LOVE it. Your little reboot issue must have been a weird bug or glitch, and the US models have received a huge update since you got rid of yours, correcting a lot of bugs and issues (correct me if I'm wrong, people), so I would get the Edge again.
Keep in mind that I have the Exynos version, so keep in mind that some thing will be a little different. Do I recommend this beast? Yes. It's definitely a head-turner, the hardware is the best I've ever seen and the software is solid (but you could encounter a bug or two, like you did).
You wrote a lengthy post, so you deserve something better than "get the s7, it kicks butt", or whatever. Got any questions? Not a problem.

You might as well just wait for the iPhone 7s if you're so interested in apple
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Would you still buy one today?

I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?

No it's not
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It does not have a stable root solution. It is very laggy. I've told my wife when my GS7E and her Note 5 are paid off, we are going with off contract phones. You can now get phones from Sony, Huawei, and others that rival the performance of flagships, for around $300. And they usually have root.
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No - it's been my least favorite phone.

::sigh::
I wish I had seen this before I stopped back in at the local AT&T store. I went ahead and opted to try out the S7 Edge, and I have to say, I haven't been terribly impressed so far. The edge, in particular, feels more like a hindrance than a help - especially with the keyboard. I manage to miss all the keys along the edges pretty reliably.
I was also surprised by how much lag there is in the stock "as it came from the factory" ROM. I had read that Samsung had managed to dramatically reduce the lag in TouchWiz, and my Galaxy Tab S2 didn't seem all that bad. Given it has a technically slower SoC (the SD652 vs the SD820), I was a bit shocked at some of the things I saw - like the Play store taking 10s of seconds to populate, app lists seeming to take forever to populate, etc.
My hope is that it's still settling, so I'm going to resist the urge to take it back tomorrow and see how it does by Monday. However, at the moment, I'm not nearly as thrilled with this device as I was when I got my M8 back in 2014.

Take it back. Root is piss poor on this device. If you drop it, even off the couch, it'll more than likely crack one of the 2 glass screens (front and back) and for that kind of money, you'd expect better quality

I have had root on every phone except this one. Once I disabled most Samsung stuff and replaced the launcher, the pho e is quite snappy. However, I could have paid half and got the same experience plus root. The only positive going for this phone is the build quality, it is a premium feeling phone. Hopefully this new root method that is supposedly being developed and tested pans out.
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I get the feeling most of the issues here are with the bloat. I sometimes forget that I haven't run a carrier branded ROM in ages. I ran stripped down stock on my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, and the US Developer Edition on my HTC One M8 - so I almost never see the death star on my devices. Even my Galaxy Tab S2 had some issues when I first got it that were entirely solved by disabling a lot of the bloat on it. Now it actually runs quite well compared to when I bought it, which is what tempted me to try the S7.
I would go with the unbranded stock ROM, but unfortunately, the U version on this device means giving up a lot - VoLTE, HD calling, and WiFi calling - as well as visual voicemail, but that's pretty easy to live without. It's still tempting, but I have to admit, this is the roughest transition I have ever had to a new device.
The SGS2 was brain-dead easy to alter, and I had CWM and SuperSU on there fast. The HTC One M8 was S-off and running US developer the same day. It goes without saying that the Nexus 7 was trivial to root/mod. What amazes me the most, though, is that my 2.5 year old M8 running MM feels less janky than this phone at times, despite it's SD801 SoC vs the SD820 in the S7E . It's just amazing - but I blame the AT&T crap for most of that.
I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.

The s7 edge is on sale everwhere, if you can get a great deal on the international version and you don't mind to have last year's tech than the s7 is total worth it, root and development is great on the international version, I even got volte working I have no complaints, I use to have the att version and I wish I switched to international version sooner

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I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still beu competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I usue a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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It's a good phone but I certainly would not root it. This is from personal experience because mine is rooted and stuck in bootloop which I am currently lookingfor a solution to.

I'm going to go in the other direction than some others on the thread. I think this has been one of the better devices around. Since the Nougat update, it's become a even better device, my battery life has gotten way better too. If I were looking now ( and not needing a device right NOW), I would be waiting for the S8 Edge (since it should be dropping within the next month or 2)
As far as root goes, I've not rooted my device and honestly haven't seen any need for root for a couple of years now.
To answer your last question, it's a GREAT device and if the S8 wasn't coming soon and I needed a device now, I would choose it again over ANY of the current devices out there
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I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.
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I have ZERO issues with mine, I might take the plunge and do a factory reset and take a look at disabling some of the AT&T bloat as well.

I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.

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I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.
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Yeah, the camera is pretty awesome. I'd consider a factory reset, it can be a bit of work, but I think it could help.

jshamlet said:
I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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The root for this is trash, no fault of the root. I had a T-Mobile variant and I was resetting it every 3 or 4 weeks due to lock ups and crashes. Same with AT&T. I got fed up with the root on it, and got Disabler Pro and eliminated so much junk, it's been a great phone ever since. The only thing I miss in root is the ability to change the icons in the notifications bar and the adblockers that were a lot better, but other than that, the phone is more stable, doesn't have the bloatware, and doesn't frighten me to reboot it while driving home and the phone crashing on boot. I'd still get it, but I'd probably opt at this point to get the Indian variant with 128GB and pearl black for what my pay off would be for this 32GB.

If you could (for free), would you switch to Galaxy S8+?

I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.

Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.

I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.

I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.

I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?

S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with

You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.

For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..

They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!

As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.

S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software

I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!

Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO

I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.

I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...

I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.

Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.

Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.

Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.

350Rocket said:
Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)

If your 6T died today, what new phone would you buy?

Hi folks,
I'm still rocking my stock 6T (Global version) on AT&T. The battery is starting to show its age I think, but other than that it has been perfect. It's in great shape and I'm not planning to change it out any time soon. 2.5 years is already the longest I've ever used a phone.
But, with lots of bad reviews on the newest OnePlus offerings, and the continually steeper prices they are charging, I'm wondering what I would do if something happened to my 6T.
I bought it because of:
Price/Performace ratio
Not tethered to a carrier and minimal crapware
Unlockable/rootable (though, I never did either on this phone)
OnePlus good history of support on prior devices (I also have a 3T, now used as a wifi mini tablet)
So, What would you folks buy if you had to get a new phone today?

May jump to a Pixel. Tried to cop a 8T, but ended up with a incompatible version of it. Even then, By OOS changing soon I want to get even more freedom. It's sad I see a lot of people going to Samsung, which I ain't knocking, But they were the reason why I switched to OnePlus..

Would love to see more responses to this post.
I will be buying a new phone next year and have been asking myself this question.
Ability to root and install custom ROMs means more to me than camera, fingerprint, wireless charging, whatever.
Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus.
If I could I'd go back and get a headphone jack and IR blaster as well. I miss my old HTCs.

"Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus."
For this options iphone is good option

I had a 6T, scratched the screen somehow, got a 7T. Loved it, but switched to a Samsung A71. (easier to get the new stuff to work on my galaxy 3 smart watch than doing a bunch of hacking/loading stuff). Great screen, good battery life. For a midrange, 300 bucks was hard to pass up.

Thanks for all the responses. It seems there's no obvious go-to for us.
Here's what I'd like, coming from the 6T:
Processor: next step up from whatever 6T had when it came up 3 years ago, but I don't need the latest-greatest
Memory: I have a 256GB storage version, with 8GB RAM. This was fine then, and is fine now.
Screen: whatever the 6T has is fine. The tiny notch never bothered me.
Connectivity: Really want 5G support! I don't cycle through phones quickly anymore so want to future proof
Required beyond doubt: in-screen fingerprint reader. Love this! 6T was the first to have it.
Cameras: I'm not a big camera guy but would like a zoom camera on the back (fixed optical zoom camera, or ability to optically zoom). Doesn't have to be best in class, but should be evolved from 6T
Now here's where I get a bit crazy: every phone I buy, I put in a case (I'm using the 6T OnePlus "graphite" case I think). What I'd RATHER have is no need for a case, but a ruggedized phone (waterproof of course) that doesn't need a case. By removing need for a case, the phone dimensions could be the same as the 6T+case. It would give room for a BETTER BATTERY. I'd like the battery to be in the 4500mAh+ plus range.
For god's sakes I wish they would bring back the multicolor LED (I used LightFlow with them in prior phones), but a good implementation of the always-on screen is fine too. But make it highly configurable and energy-sipping.
Software:
Plain vanilla Android. No bloatware. No carrier apps, but compatible with carrier apps for visual voicemail etc. Compatible with wifi calling, VoLTE etc.
Unlockable and rootable. I didn't do either to my 6T but want to know I could.
Price: I'm not looking for a flagship killer. <$600 US.

Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it

kmr168401 said:
Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it
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Thanks. I'm in no hurry to replace my 6T, but since it's getting up there in age, I have started musing about where to jump if necessary.
An iOS device is out of the question. I have one, for work, and it works fine, but I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. I'm not saying iPhones are bad; my wife and kids have them and they work great for them. Just, I can't stand using them for more than the basics.
Pixel 6 looks interesting; I quail at the likely high-end price. We will see. I wish there were more options in the "next tier down from flagship" phones out there like OnePlus used to be in the 3T-6T era. No more...

Flagship, sorry it's myth nowadays, why because can you tell any good processor available in market, once upon a time we had kirin from Huawei, but now there's no direct competitor for Qualcomm, so whatever garbage they produce and claiming it the best we need to accept that , look into the 888 series, they are garbage but we don't have any options, we need to accept it and invest in that, i am thinking of using my op6t for another two years, then move to sparkling trending iglore .
Sorry i forgot to add when ever we start 4k video recording in op9pro it's getting overheat so flagship killer mya**, and overpriced because of hasselblad camera, actually they didn't manufactured or designed, and who knows what is the collaboration is, but put the name and sell it for more than thousand dollars, fantastic. I have so many good words to express but this is not the place, so i keep quiet. You know something i brought realme 6 pro for my mother, its camera is fantastic compare to my op6t, it's cost me 250$, this is my last op6t

Only opion Realme GT. Budget and looks good under the hood.

I'll go for pixel.

I'm pretty sure I'll go rogue and bite the Apple.

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