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Was just offered a S7 Edge for my 6P...... Conflicted on what to do?!!?

I love my 6P.... Love the updates and all the custom ROMs, love the front facing speakers too.....But have wanted an "Edge" ever since they were first released.
Today, while at work, someone seen my 6P and asked me a few questions and then said he had a 1 month old 32gb S7 edge he'd trade me straight across for my 6P??? I told him I'd have to think it over and let him know later..... So, what's everyone think?
Reasons I'd keep the 6P
* Custom ROMs galore!! One of the best supported phones are NEXUS phones
* Future proof for updates for several years
* Front facing speakers
>>> I'm a HUGE music lover and check out music equipment (I'm a guitar player) on YouTube quite often
>>> On those days when you just want to lay in bed, the front speakers are great for watching NetFlix without having to cup your hand around the bottom of the phone just to hear it
* I already gave away most of my micro-USB cables and replaced them with USB-C cables - EVERYWHERE
Reasons I'd switch (are the same reasons I love it):
* Custom ROMs -
>>> I get too tied up in the whole custom ROM thing and sometimes spend several hours a day flashing custom ROMs.
>>> I am checking XDA 2-6 times per hour for updates or new ROMs, to the point it affects my work some days (when new ROMs come out while I'm at work). I've tried to control it and block XDA, but I am really addicted to it and have thought about going back to a flip phone sometimes just to free up several hours a day and keep me working when I'm supposed to be.
* Front facing speakers -
>>> Lets face it, the speakers aren't that great (compared to the HTC stereo speakers). Sitting on my desk, 3 feet away I really can't hear any stereo separation and might as well have a single speaker
>>> They really don't sound as good as many single speaker phones
* I wouldn't mind having a smaller, lighter phone....I've got tendinitis from years of playing guitar and the heavy phone sometimes hurts to use for long periods... But after a case it'll be about the same.

Take it. If you like it, ok, if not, you can sell it for more than a brand new 64gb 6p. You can come home for free.

personally I would keep my 6p. The Edge is kind of gimmicky. the 6p is pure Android it's what I love about it. I love the larger screen, it's kinda hard to go back to a smaller screen after the 6p. can't stand the Samsung bloatware and the delay updates. I love everything about the 6p the only thing I don't like is the button positioning. I keep accidentally hitting the volume button.

Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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MrMarques01 said:
Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
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She said an iPhone

I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Toss a coin: Head's it's a Nexus6p or Tails it's a Nexus6p!
It's a win-win...

novanosis85 said:
I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Yeah, after reading so many reviews... The S7 does seem like the clear winner, but I'm not sure I can live with the crappy single speaker?? And most say the speed/smoothness is better on the 6P, but it's just apples vs oranges on most of it.
I really wouldn't use Touchwiz, I'd use Nova launcher, but I guess I'd sill have the Touchwiz menu's and pull-down.
I know some say "get the S7 and sell it", but I only have one phone and can't really do that.. So I'd be stuck with it unless I got another local deal.

I had an s7 edge for about 2 weeks before I got the 6p. The edge was nice, however I prefer the 6p. Stock android is better than touchwiz. Has the edge been rooted yet? It had not been when I had it. I did not like not being able to block ads in chrome. I returned mine to AT&T and lost out on getting a free TV with it. I also lost out on a $150 bill credit because I returned it. I don't regret it. Keep the 6p!

You're gonna miss the speakers and the stock Android experience.

The edge is dumb. Its gimicky and has almost no useful use. I had the Galaxy S6 edge.
And most of all the edge is hard as FU*K to hold.

I had a choice of buying either the S7 Edge or Nexus 6P just a couple of weeks ago, one of the main reasons for getting the 6P over the S7 Edge was updates, Android N will be out end of Summer the S7 Edge will not see it until sometime early next year.

MrMarques01 said:
Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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no offence meant, xda is for helping each other out, if you can't add anything important, then please dont post replies. there are many users back here who are ready to help the op out.

This is my first Nexus device. I love the smoothness and appreciate the fast updates. I don't think you can go wrong with either phone, more so if you change phones often. But if I were asked I would say hands down stay with the Nexus. These days I have learnt to appreciate the faster updates, especially the security updates. Samsung is notoriously slow with the updates. And you're on AT&T too? Updates are a foreign word to you (trust me, I had the AT&T Note5). But it comes down to what your priorities are.

I gave up on Sammy after my MDK S4 (the last of the unlockable Galaxies). Screw that Knox BS.

I was also thinking about selling my 6P for the edge, but I'm on Verizon and who knows when I would see android N there. Furthermore, my phone would be locked down to VZW and I don't like that, their bloatware, etc. The only thing that the S7 edge has on its side is a better camera, better battery life (maybe), and gaming performance (I don't play hardcore games), better screen (but smaller), nicer build quality (maybe?). After that, it goes downhill fast. Only 32GB? And you can only use 20GB of internal because of the TouchWiz hog. You can add a SD card, but can't transfer bloatware apps. I think I'm juts going to keep my 6P 128GB and wait for android N.

I came from the s7 edge to nexus 6p and i love this damn phone i will never get a samsung phone again and as for memory got the 128 one.

Personally, I would go for the S7 Edge. I've had both phones and while the 6P is smoother (not faster), the S7 Edge just offers more overall. Better build quality, better camera (imo), wireless charging built in, water resistance and much more software features built in without having to root or install a bunch of extra apps.
Sure you won't get software updates nearly as fast, but I'm starting to realize that those are somewhat overrated after having both. The couple 6P updates while I had that phone did more harm than good. I lost LTE frequently on AT&T which was a known issue with those couple of updates. With the super fast updates, we are almost like beta testers for Google.
While that's fun and exciting for a while, I'm at a point in my life and career where I need a stable phone with thoroughly tested software. As crazy as that sounds with all the complaints I've made about slow updates on AT&T in the past lol.
Another tidbit is that I've already received 3 software updates on my AT&T S7 Edge since I've had it. They have definitely gotten better about it so far. With Google now offering incentives to carriers, I hope the trend continues!
But at the end of the day the choice is yours. Like someone else said before, make the trade and then sell the S7 Edge for more than you can get another 6P for if you are unsure. And if having a transition device is an issue, just grab a cheap under $50 phone from Craigslist or something. I always have a cheap BLU phone on deck for transitions lol.
Good luck!

I actually have both and yes the 6p is a little smoother but the battery on my s7 edge lasts quite a bit longer. I go back to my 6p just for a day or so and use the edge for weeks at a time. I cant seem to make myself use the 6p for more then a day. The screen and the camera are unreal. also the 6p shows massive amounts of finger prints and the edge does not

Biggest reason never to buy Samdung is KNOX.
Nuff said.

opinions now that it's been out a while?

How are you V20 owners feeling about the phone now that it's been out a while? I'm looking for a new phone and the options with Sprint suck, so it seems like it's either the S7 Edge or the V20. Both have good reviews, but those reviews are always done after maybe a few days or a week of use, and right at the phone's release, so I wanted to get some real world opinions from every day users.
I have an LG G3 right now (came to this from a Note 2) and I've been pretty unhappy with it for a while. It was okay (but nothing special) for the first year, then really went to crap--laggy, restarting itself, losing data connection. So I'm a little leery of going with another LG product, but this phone does have my interest.

I had a Note 2 and 4 prior to the V20 here and I love this phone. Even before root, I thought it was excellent. I find it fast and snappy, it doesn't seem to carry the lag that Samsung phones do. And the second screen is pretty awesome, I use it way more than I ever used the s-pen (never had an edge phone, so I can't compare it with thag).
Having said that, there are a couple downsides. I don't like the lcd screen - Samsung's amoleds are far better looking. And I feel like the camera on the Note 4 was better. But otherwise I'm really pleased with this phone. It's a great phone in and of itself, but it's the stuff that differentiated it from Samsung, the removable battery and ir blaster, that put me over the top.
And now that we have root? Oh yeah, I would definitely recommend this phone.

I too shared the concern of lag after using a G3, but this V20 is one of the fastest phones I've ever used (owned it since release). It's still snappy, no weird crashes or restarts, battery still lasts 2 solid days, wifi is still stronger than my Note 7 was. The more I use it the less things like the lack of notification LED bother me, and I'm more and more impressed with the audio that this phone delivers. However I still miss AMOLED, if this V20 had an OLED display it would be 10/10 for me.

Personally, both my dad and I want to throw our devices out a window. Mine regularly locks up, and both of our devices occasionally heat up, and drop 20% or more battery life in 5 minutes. I'd like this phone a lot if these issues didn't exist but as it stands they outweigh the incredible audio quality that this phone provides
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I got the V20 when I had to give up my Note7. The note 7 was hands down my favorite phone I've ever owned, but the V20 is good. I also owned the V10, which was okay, the V20 is a vast improvement though. Good performance, decent battery life (not getting a secondary with charging kit would defeat the purpose), and the camera is pretty good (but not on par with Samsung as far as I'm concerned). I like the second screen, but it's a trade for the edge screen function. Honestly I would have gotten the S7 edge, but after the note 7 debacle, I refused to support Samsung this year. Will upgrade to the next note though as soon as I can.

Nick281051 said:
Personally, both my dad and I want to throw our devices out a window. Mine regularly locks up, and both of our devices occasionally heat up, and drop 20% or more battery life in 5 minutes. I'd like this phone a lot if these issues didn't exist but as it stands they outweigh the incredible audio quality that this phone provides
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That's interesting - did you use dirtysanta on your phone? If so, use the Konverged kernel. It helps significantly (using it on my H910).
If not, you can also do these couple of things to help you out - turn off/disable Lookout. That is terrible to have on the phone and drains battery like no other. Go into your developer options menu in Settings, change all the different scales like animation scales, etc. to 0.5x. There's a couple of other small things you can do - like disabling the bloatware installed on your phone. But those will help out the most I believe.
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twistedvip said:
That's interesting - did you use dirtysanta on your phone? If so, use the Konverged kernel. It helps significantly (using it on my H910).
If not, you can also do these couple of things to help you out - turn off/disable Lookout. That is terrible to have on the phone and drains battery like no other. Go into your developer options menu in Settings, change all the different scales like animation scales, etc. to 0.5x. There's a couple of other small things you can do - like disabling the bloatware installed on your phone. But those will help out the most I believe.
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Nope I already always disable all possible bloatware and my phone is stock. Changing the window speed also will not help because my problem isn't sluggishness, it's the fact that the phone becomes unresponsive.
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Overall I would have to say I'm kinda disappointed with the lg v20. Coming from the note 3, I don't know if I expected too much, or was looking to be blown away, but for the price, I expected so much more. If the phone would've been like $400-500 maybe I wouldn't be so disappointed. I had to send my v20 to lg because of the speaker problem, so I have been using a ZTE z958, a $50 go phone from att. Honestly I can't really tell the difference between the v20 and the ZTE. Not enough to justify the $800 difference. The only two things I miss from the v20 are the finger print sensor and FM radio. Think I'm going to stick with my ZTE. Luckily my wife got an iPhone 7 plus and she didn't like it very much and wants to switch back to Android, so I think I'm just going to give her the v20 and sell the iPhone 7 plus. Much more easier to sell iPhone and not loose that much money, than to try and sell v20.
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Thanks to everyone for all of the info.
I know this is the LG section so I might get a biased answer, but if I could get the V20 and the Galaxy S7 for the same price, which one should I go for?
Sprint has a deal on the S7 right now until 12/28, and I was told by a rep in the forums that the same deal is going live for the V20 on 12/29. Both will come down to about $6.50/month after the sale plus my loyalty credit.

Coming from note 3, 4 and 7 - I am very pleased with the V20. Not rooted yet as I'm not sold that root will gain me much of anything and the more I read, the less I am interested in rooting. Bad battery life, no fm radio, worse signal, loss of sound improvement from quad dac and no means of reverting to stock unrooted.
I miss the look of the super amo-led a little bit, but I don't miss the screen burn on every samsung amoled screen I have owned or seen with many family members samsungs.
Love the second screen, sound quality with and without headphones. Happy with the camera using manual mode. Love the removable battery, sd slot, ir blaster, fm radio. The fact that I can disassemble and repair the phone if the need arises. Something the samsungs can be hard or even impossible to do.

What will be your next phone after the S7 Edge?

I have the S7 Edge a year now and still am pretty much satisfied with overall performance, camera, GPS during navigation etc. Sometimes the external sd card isn't recognized, which kinda sucks (it is then recognized again after some time without doing anything), but this is actually throwing me off a bit from the S7 Edge and I was looking around what to get as my next phone, probably without external SD card and with bigger internal storage (128 GB preferable). I always rooted but haven't done it with the S7-edge, as I didn't felt I needed it anymore (performance is great and battery life also, even without flashing any different kernel).
I was looking into different phones to dump the S7 Edge:
Oneplus 5: camera seems not to be so good, compared to the S7 Edge (no OIS on the Oneplus 5). And camera is very important to me.
The S8 plus was also an option, but seems not much of an upgrade.
The Note 8 still only has 64GB storage.
Not to sure how the HTC u11 is, never had an HTC phone, only Samsung (Galaxy S1, S2, S4 and now the S7-edge).
Also had some Google Nexus phones, so maybe the next Pixel phone might be an option (unfortunately they are really pricey).
What are you guys are planning to get after the S7 Edge?

one plus 5 is really good it has insane charging speed and overall in speed tests beats galaxy s8 and all other phones its a powerhouse. pixel 2 will be probabyl good but super expensive. LG V30 idk yet, note 8 is too big for me. The Essential phone is pretty insane but $699 and its not out yet.
but at this point i cant live without AOD and wireless charging so I will probably get S8 next

I plan on keeping mine for quite a bit longer. Honestly, at this point buying anything else would be for aesthetics only, as processors and ram are not really moving anywhere that much better.

crixley said:
I plan on keeping mine for quite a bit longer. Honestly, at this point buying anything else would be for aesthetics only, as processors and ram are not really moving anywhere that much better.
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Unfortunately I think your right, not much of an improvement, except for the Oneplus 5. The Pixel 2 is rumored to be the first phone to have the next snapdragon processor, which might be the next step in terms of speed / performance, also having pure Android is nice and the modder community usually is great. But the price might be insane (look at the current Pixel price, it's still very high).

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Unfortunately I think your right, not much of an improvement, except for the Oneplus 5. The Pixel 2 is rumored to be the first phone to have the next snapdragon processor, which might be the next step in terms of speed / performance, also having pure Android is nice and the modder community usually is great. But the price might be insane (look at the current Pixel price, it's still very high).
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The trade offs to owning a oneplus 5 for me are not worth the minimal speed gains imo.

Probably wait for the S9 plus. I really love my S7E.

Probably switching things up. Im looking at the new nokia 8 but its camera isnt as good as it could be.
Ill see the nokia 9 ever comes. Otherwise ill wait for something better.

I would love a Pixel 2 but price will be too high for me. And also a bezel-less phone ..like the essential!

No idea. I tend to keep my phone's for a long time. I don't get the upgrade every year thing. I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 a few months ago, and that was only because the camera sucks too bad and I needed more storage. If not for that I would probably have still kept it. It's still plenty fast enough. I expect I'll be using my s7 edge for at least another 3 years.

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No idea. I tend to keep my phone's for a long time. I don't get the upgrade every year thing. I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 a few months ago, and that was only because the camera sucks too bad and I needed more storage. If not for that I would probably have still kept it. It's still plenty fast enough. I expect I'll be using my s7 edge for at least another 3 years.
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Wow, must admit I got a new phone every year for the last 3 or 4 years, but with the S7 Edge I am to satisfied to get a new phone or let's say I am to unimpressed by everything which came out since then. Just feel that there isn't any real step up from there, especially regarding camera, battery life and even performance. Also stuff like the HTC u11 squeeze thing isn't anything interesting imho.

At first the Note 8 didn't impress me like I thought it would. But after I ran through what I want in a phone, and what's on the market. The Note 8 is really the only device that truly does everything.
Large hi-res OLED display
External Storage
Headphone jack
Waterproof
Wireless Charging
True Dual Camera (OIS on both sensors)
The Note 8 checks all of those boxes and to my knowledge is the only phone that does currently. The S7 and S8 cameras are already fantastic so having a dual setup is a perfect upgrade. And the extra 2GB of RAM is a really good bonus too. Honestly love my S7E but I just couldn't pass up the offer to trade it in and only pay $2 more a month with ATT Next.

Bjray said:
At first the Note 8 didn't impress me like I thought it would. But after I ran through what I want in a phone, and what's on the market. The Note 8 is really the only device that truly does everything.
Large hi-res OLED display
External Storage
Headphone jack
Waterproof
Wireless Charging
True Dual Camera (OIS on both sensors)
The Note 8 checks all of those boxes and to my knowledge is the only phone that does currently. The S7 and S8 cameras are already fantastic so having a dual setup is a perfect upgrade. And the extra 2GB of RAM is a really good bonus too. Honestly love my S7E but I just couldn't pass up the offer to trade it in and only pay $2 more a month with ATT Next.
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That's an awesome deal, I would too if I were you tbh

iPhone 8. No, I'm not kidding.

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iPhone 8. No, I'm not kidding.
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You had an iPhone before? I always had android, except for an MacBook (worst idea ever to get one, I am running windows since forever). Really couldn't see me getting an iPhone ever.

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You had an iPhone before? I always had android, except for an MacBook (worst idea ever to get one, I am running windows since forever). Really couldn't see me getting an iPhone ever.
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Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
I know this is the wrong forum to be talking about this, so that's all I have to say about that. The new iPhone looks awesome. Yes, it's not Android and you can't root it or load ROM's, meh...I just want my phone to work and get updates as soon as they are available. My 6P had major battery issues and now I have numerous issues with this S7 Edge. Just time for a phone to work like it's supposed to and if it doesn't, then I can simply walk into a store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot.

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Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
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I hear you, man. But with the S7 Edge everything is running really fine for me since day 1 (maybe because I didn't root or flash any custom ROM /Kernel und / mod etc. as I did with every previous phone) . Just the external SD card is acting up all of a sudden (could be the sd card, not the phone itself).

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Yes. Quite some time ago. I'm simply sick of notification issues. Sick of things not working the way they are supposed to. Sick of 2 exact same model phones not working the same. Sick of not getting calls or even notifications. Sick of antenna issues. Sick of not getting updates forever. I just want a phone that works. One that is supported and one that isn't forgotten the second a new phone comes out.
I know this is the wrong forum to be talking about this, so that's all I have to say about that. The new iPhone looks awesome. Yes, it's not Android and you can't root it or load ROM's, meh...I just want my phone to work and get updates as soon as they are available. My 6P had major battery issues and now I have numerous issues with this S7 Edge. Just time for a phone to work like it's supposed to and if it doesn't, then I can simply walk into a store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot.
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you got broken phone. period. that is not reason for changing brand, but everyone is doing with money what they want, right..
mine is working with 0 problems from day 1. actualy newer had any phone that works perfect like this one.. never rooted, flashed.. everything stock
and yes, i had iphone too.
i dont know what to get next, i feel sorry to sell this one, and dont see any realy worth buying something newer..
actualy i changing devices often, but stuck on this one

digitall1982 said:
you got broken phone. period. that is not reason for changing brand, but everyone is doing with money what they want, right..
mine is working with 0 problems from day 1. actualy newer had any phone that works perfect like this one.. never rooted, flashed.. everything stock
and yes, i had iphone too.
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The improper behavior is completely sporadic. A "broken" phone would always perform incorrectly.

Note 8 exynos south east variant need a unlocked bootloader.

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The improper behavior is completely sporadic. A "broken" phone would always perform incorrectly.
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it can be because of bad sd card or bad sim card..
seen that with my eyes, bad sd card was making whole bunch of unusual behavor, slowdowns, freezing, etc... and the best part; it was only somethimes.. just random..
if that is not the case, go to repair shop. problem must be found and solved. dont think that is default behavior for all units of s7edge.. it's not! and if you got some problem someone must solve it, obviously you want, it's better moan on forums about that, right?

Still Worth it A Year Later?

Hey guys, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on if this phone is still worth it? Especially for right around $300. Or am I better off saving some more money and buying a Pixel/Pixel XL or waiting for the Pixel 2s?

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Hey guys, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on if this phone is still worth it? Especially for right around $300. Or am I better off saving some more money and buying a Pixel/Pixel XL or waiting for the Pixel 2s?
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It's depend what you need overall I am happy with the v20. It's still great phone plus the killer audio if you don't need the new and greatest device. The good are good screen, audio, good for contents consumption, removeable battery. The not so good LG stock ui a little laggy for me sometime, size is not so compact and not much dev support for this phone. For $300 its steal. New phones not much new really they just try to make money from us after few weeks it get old like other phones.

I think so, of course, I just bought one last week...
With the price drops, it's a very good device for the money. Specs haven't been increasing as fast as years past, so devices are quite usable for longer times than before. We can still unlock/root and AOSP based ROMs are getting good. Updates will never be as fast as Google devices like the Pixel, but it's not bad and you don't lose as much waiting it out like we used to. Even Oreo doesn't add that much that I care about for features. The very latest flagships are maybe 20% faster. They also cost 2-3x as much. Value isn't there for me. Maybe it is for you, that's your decision to make.
I'm not interested in Pixel or most new devices right now. I came from a Nexus 6 with a dieing battery. I can replace it, and probably will, but it's annoying to do and runs a risk of destroying the device for a known maintenance part that we know will die. It's a bit like welding the oil plug on a car so you can't change the oil. Eventually it will die, it's a matter of time.
My requirements were: large screen (5.5"+), root, removable battery, SD, headphone jack, TMobile compatibility, value. I would have liked front facing speaker/speakers, but I can live without them. There's nothing out there in this year's devices that interests me. There's nothing wrong with options, but I do wish I had a couple to choose from as well. V20 was pretty much it. On the plus side for it though, tempered glass screen protectors are available that work well. And extended batteries. With the Zero Lemon 10k battery, I have what amounts to unlimited battery life. I'd probably fall asleep before running out. I also really hate the design trend with the camera sticking out from the back, and prefer thicker phones anyway, so it works for me.
If I were to drop removable battery, Axon 7 and OnePlus get more interesting. Though OnePlus doesn't have SD either, putting them lower on the list.
If root is important to you, make sure you know what software version you are getting and check to make sure it can be rooted. Some of the newer ones can't be yet. TMobile 10p, for example, can not.

I've had mine since launch and I still enjoy it. Granted the development support has stagnated lately. But I would completely recommend it. Especially if you get an extended battery.

I've had my v20 for three or four months. Solid phone, can't see any reason to upgrade.
I could buy three of these for the price of a galaxy note 8! Or one of these and a halfway decent laptop!

After this 10p update i'd have to say no. better off getting a v30 when it comes out.

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After this 10p update i'd have to say no. better off getting a v30 when it comes out.
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Any particular reason why? Wasn't that just security patches?

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Any particular reason why? Wasn't that just security patches?
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Yes, that killed of DirtyCow, that killed off root for the foreseeable future.
If LG hadn't deleted all fastboot commands i'd say yeah get the V20. but now it will be unrootable and uncustomizable for quite some time.

I used the twrp zip 10p bootloader and modem... It completely refreshed my performance.
Getting 70+mbs down and 16 up... Compared to 10k modem I was getting 16 down and 3 up if lucky.
I also still have root (non OTA update).
So if you install update through twrp you still keep root.
I wouldn't ever really upgrade phones unless it's a new device that supports the new 600mhz band and 700mhz.
Had mine for a year.... It's amazing. Once you get it right, camera is good (Lazer focus and resolution replaced dslr), audio with DAC/HiFi/viper is amazing.
Screen and battery is great, sd card is a must for me.
If you can get a pristine/new one for $2-300 it's well worth it.
Only gripe, wish there was water proof case.
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Thanks for the answers guys! But I ended up getting the Pixel XL for the sheer performance and rootability and I'm happy with the decision.

Anyone switch to the S10+?

I got the S10+ and have a Mclaren 6T, and I am not really finding that much difference that I might not be keeping it.
Battery is bigger but does not seem to last that much longer but I have only been through a couple of cycles.
The screen is nicer but I not so much nicer that I cannot go back
The cameras are better with more functionality but I don't use all that much
No possibility to root
The One UI experience is the best samsung has ever had but I love the oneplus interface
The fingerprint reader on the S10 is less reliable or I am doing something wrong
Frankly I am not sure it is worth $400 more
Wireless charging is nice but I could get a receiver if I needed it on the oneplus
Warp charging is way faster
Anyone else have thoughts?

Just another overpriced hype phone. No root = no buy

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overpriced crap. and im a guy that has had every sammy phone since the note 2. never going back now that oneplus has carrier support in the US.

Nope! Last Samsung I had, was the Galaxy Note in 2011. Too expensive now.
For me, it's "a phone", not a work of art. Stylish, super duper fast processor, slim & colorful just means
more expensive.

No way going back to Samsung, ever again.
Had first Note, Note 2 and stick for 3 years with Note 3.
All Note's after 3 costed waaaaaaay too much - nothing special worth the price. The same goes for Galaxy S series.

I went with the S10 and was disappointed with the fingerprint scanner. The 6T was faster and less issue. Returning it to T-Mo soon and keeping the 6T or going with the S10e.

Being that I use t-mobile for financing, there is no way im willing to give up rooting and using custom roms so easily.

In the past couple years I've had the Galaxy S8+ and the Note 9 and, while both were fantastic as far as their hardware, the software can't touch OnePlus. It's infinitely better than it used to be but I still prefer a more stock experience and the freedom that comes with a rootable phone. I briefly considered the S10 but passed on it for many of the reasons you mentioned, chief among them being lack of root.

I have had almost every Galaxy flagship there is with no exception. Now that I own this OnePlus 6T I wont be going back to Samsung for any reason. So, in otherwords... No, not switching to any of the S10 series including the Note 10... unless it does something just amazing.
OnePlus for me!

Don't forget the ugly TouchWiz or whatever they call it these days. OPO!

I had S4, S6, S8 ...
Sammy undeniably has the best screen. No discussion.
I hated the software, but all my phones were rooted so I usually put Lineage on S4/S6 and my own custom ROM on S8.
Sammy's camera is much better than 6T, unbelievable that OnePlus can so much **** this up.
There still is lots of bloat on 6T (much less than Sammy) but you can easily remove it. My 6T is tweaked to look and act like a Pixel.
For me the fingerprint on 6T works really well, I boosted the process a bit so for me it is fast and hit rate is ~90% I would say.
I would definitely not switch to Sammy without knowing 100% that it can be rooted.
I had a very bad experience with Sammy service center in Brussels, they refused to replace a cracked screen because there was custom software running on it. So, no more Sammy for me ...
I like my 6T a lot, so going to stick with it for the next year.

The Camera Hole is just ugly. I hate notches being not symmetrical.
Also the back is looking just like the Note 8 / 9. No innovation there.

Of course, NOT !!!
Greedy samsung!!!
Very rare updates ! Bloatware ! Almost the same hardware like OnePlus...

never ever again Samsung...i stopped even considering a samsung device since they introduced this knox thing to make customers lose their warranty in case they want to really own their mobile, i.e. root it...no way ... OP or Essential, nothing else for me atm ...

Well I could have gotten the 10e for free after a trade in for my note 9 and the $200 credit I had with Samsung but in no way would I give up the note for that or any of the s10s. They are smaller then I thought after I had a chance to hold one today but I'm sticking with my note 9 and 6t. It's great to have best of both worlds as I must admit the note series is pretty great and the 6t is also just as nice.
aaronc_98 said:
I got the S10+ and have a Mclaren 6T, and I am not really finding that much difference that I might not be keeping it.
Battery is bigger but does not seem to last that much longer but I have only been through a couple of cycles.
The screen is nicer but I not so much nicer that I cannot go back
The cameras are better with more functionality but I don't use all that much
No possibility to root
The One UI experience is the best samsung has ever had but I love the oneplus interface
The fingerprint reader on the S10 is less reliable or I am doing something wrong
Frankly I am not sure it is worth $400 more
Wireless charging is nice but I could get a receiver if I needed it on the oneplus
Warp charging is way faster
Anyone else have thoughts?
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I sold my S9+ to get the OP 6T; never going back to Samsung!
If would return it if I were you

jomansch said:
never ever again Samsung...i stopped even considering a samsung device since they introduced this knox thing to make customers lose their warranty in case they want to really own their mobile, i.e. root it...no way ... OP or Essential, nothing else for me atm ...
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Same here.
I dumped them when they pushed KNOX to my S4 and locked down a previously clean device.
No Samsung for me. Essential or OnePlus. I'm glad the 6T is certified for Verizon. Otherwise no OnePlus for me.

I'm with you guys. I left Samsung forever after my S5 touchscreen went out and official Samsung repair shop refused to warranty it because Knox was 0x1 even back to 100pct stock??.

if anything I'd wait on next year's chip 855 is first 5g bands give it till next year OnePlus has trade up program when 7 comes do that

I will be upgrading to Sony xperia 1. Never Samsung again. Sony phones are just as fast with good battery life. I just appreciate their software.