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Would you still buy one today?

I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?

No it's not
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It does not have a stable root solution. It is very laggy. I've told my wife when my GS7E and her Note 5 are paid off, we are going with off contract phones. You can now get phones from Sony, Huawei, and others that rival the performance of flagships, for around $300. And they usually have root.
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No - it's been my least favorite phone.

::sigh::
I wish I had seen this before I stopped back in at the local AT&T store. I went ahead and opted to try out the S7 Edge, and I have to say, I haven't been terribly impressed so far. The edge, in particular, feels more like a hindrance than a help - especially with the keyboard. I manage to miss all the keys along the edges pretty reliably.
I was also surprised by how much lag there is in the stock "as it came from the factory" ROM. I had read that Samsung had managed to dramatically reduce the lag in TouchWiz, and my Galaxy Tab S2 didn't seem all that bad. Given it has a technically slower SoC (the SD652 vs the SD820), I was a bit shocked at some of the things I saw - like the Play store taking 10s of seconds to populate, app lists seeming to take forever to populate, etc.
My hope is that it's still settling, so I'm going to resist the urge to take it back tomorrow and see how it does by Monday. However, at the moment, I'm not nearly as thrilled with this device as I was when I got my M8 back in 2014.

Take it back. Root is piss poor on this device. If you drop it, even off the couch, it'll more than likely crack one of the 2 glass screens (front and back) and for that kind of money, you'd expect better quality

I have had root on every phone except this one. Once I disabled most Samsung stuff and replaced the launcher, the pho e is quite snappy. However, I could have paid half and got the same experience plus root. The only positive going for this phone is the build quality, it is a premium feeling phone. Hopefully this new root method that is supposedly being developed and tested pans out.
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I get the feeling most of the issues here are with the bloat. I sometimes forget that I haven't run a carrier branded ROM in ages. I ran stripped down stock on my Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, and the US Developer Edition on my HTC One M8 - so I almost never see the death star on my devices. Even my Galaxy Tab S2 had some issues when I first got it that were entirely solved by disabling a lot of the bloat on it. Now it actually runs quite well compared to when I bought it, which is what tempted me to try the S7.
I would go with the unbranded stock ROM, but unfortunately, the U version on this device means giving up a lot - VoLTE, HD calling, and WiFi calling - as well as visual voicemail, but that's pretty easy to live without. It's still tempting, but I have to admit, this is the roughest transition I have ever had to a new device.
The SGS2 was brain-dead easy to alter, and I had CWM and SuperSU on there fast. The HTC One M8 was S-off and running US developer the same day. It goes without saying that the Nexus 7 was trivial to root/mod. What amazes me the most, though, is that my 2.5 year old M8 running MM feels less janky than this phone at times, despite it's SD801 SoC vs the SD820 in the S7E . It's just amazing - but I blame the AT&T crap for most of that.
I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.

The s7 edge is on sale everwhere, if you can get a great deal on the international version and you don't mind to have last year's tech than the s7 is total worth it, root and development is great on the international version, I even got volte working I have no complaints, I use to have the att version and I wish I switched to international version sooner

jshamlet said:
I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still beu competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I usue a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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It's a good phone but I certainly would not root it. This is from personal experience because mine is rooted and stuck in bootloop which I am currently lookingfor a solution to.

I'm going to go in the other direction than some others on the thread. I think this has been one of the better devices around. Since the Nougat update, it's become a even better device, my battery life has gotten way better too. If I were looking now ( and not needing a device right NOW), I would be waiting for the S8 Edge (since it should be dropping within the next month or 2)
As far as root goes, I've not rooted my device and honestly haven't seen any need for root for a couple of years now.
To answer your last question, it's a GREAT device and if the S8 wasn't coming soon and I needed a device now, I would choose it again over ANY of the current devices out there
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I will say this. I took the Nougat OTA and did a full factory reset, and it is noticeably less laggy/janky now. I am running Nova launcher, and I've disabled as much as I can, but there are still times when it feels like the phone is stuttering a bit.
Part of me still feels like I have made a huge mistake, though. I'm just trying to decide if it's a mistake I can live with, or whether I should just eat the $45 restocking fee and try to repair my M8's battery.
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I have ZERO issues with mine, I might take the plunge and do a factory reset and take a look at disabling some of the AT&T bloat as well.

I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.

jshamlet said:
I actually got the S7 when the S8 was announced to get the price break, because I have heard rumor that the S8 does away with the fingerprint reader on the front (it's on the back now, which I don't like), it will be USB-C, which means keeping up with another cable type (I already have lightning cables for the iDevices and micro-USB cables for the Androids), and possibly no headphone jack. Short of a USB-C to 3.5" dongle, that wasn't going to fly.
I am hoping the S7 will fly, because it has great hardware. The pictures I have taken with it are amazing. Yet, even unrooted stock felt janky at times. Root made it worse, but I noticed it even before I loaded the engineering kernel. I figure it must be the AT&T crap in the background.
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Yeah, the camera is pretty awesome. I'd consider a factory reset, it can be a bit of work, but I think it could help.

jshamlet said:
I'm on AT&T because I still get a hefty discount through my work, so I usually get devices on the Next plan. Right now, I have a fully paid-off HTC One M8 that is still working fine, but it's definitely showing its age in terms of battery life. I could probably make it another year on the M8, but I'm worried that if I don't upgrade soon, I'll miss the window on a rootable flagship that I can pay off as part of my phone plan. I've been looking at new devices through AT&T, but I demand at a minimum root on my devices, and AT&T has kicked HTC to the curb.
So, I'm on the fence right now. The Galaxy S7 Edge looks to still be competitive (what with HTC and LG both sticking with SD821 SoCs), has a stable root solution that doesn't trip Knox, and has a significantly larger battery. I'm still not sure about the curved screen at all, but I suspect I could work around that. It also still uses the older USB standard and has a headphone jack (both of which I use a lot, since my car's head unit doesn't do blue tooth) I shouldn't be this torn on the matter, since it is a much better device and meets my needs, but it is still a $700 phone at the moment.
Which leads me to the question. Do you guys still think this is a good phone today?
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The root for this is trash, no fault of the root. I had a T-Mobile variant and I was resetting it every 3 or 4 weeks due to lock ups and crashes. Same with AT&T. I got fed up with the root on it, and got Disabler Pro and eliminated so much junk, it's been a great phone ever since. The only thing I miss in root is the ability to change the icons in the notifications bar and the adblockers that were a lot better, but other than that, the phone is more stable, doesn't have the bloatware, and doesn't frighten me to reboot it while driving home and the phone crashing on boot. I'd still get it, but I'd probably opt at this point to get the Indian variant with 128GB and pearl black for what my pay off would be for this 32GB.

Help me to decide whether or not to purchase S8 as my next daily driver

Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?

First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.

ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated

I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!

You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too

Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
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Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.

Appreciate every comment, thanks!
jonny908 said:
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?

I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.

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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?

ImbaWind said:
So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.

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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.

It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!

I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.

If you could (for free), would you switch to Galaxy S8+?

I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.

Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.

I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.

I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.

I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?

S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with

You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.

For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..

They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!

As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.

S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software

I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!

Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO

I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.

I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...

I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.

Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.

Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.

Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.

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Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)

Moving from Sammy to Oneplus 5t

Just getting some thoughts from long time samsung users! I've owned every Note series and S6edge,7edge and S8 and S8+! I love the Samsung phones, good quality and features! But it seems like they all look the same except for a few different features on different models! And locking the bootloaders on US models kinda pushed me over the edge to switch!
After research of 6" phones with good specs, I came across the Oneplus 5t with 8gb ram and 128 int. storage for $549! Factory US unlocked that works with Tmobile well and an unlockable bootloader! No bloatware and probable the smoothest, fastest stock phone ive ever owned! Developers are coming out of the woodworks and Roms are starting to appear! Im a flashaholic and im ready to do some flashing on this awesome phone
Any other Sammy users taking the leap to other phones for more options and ofcourse unlocked bootloaders?
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I had a one plus one before - I liked it, and it still works fine. However, I have kids, and photos are important. Nothing, no iPhone, no other phone matches the photo quality. IPhone owners are asking what phone this is. Also samsung has taken off its heavy skin and minus Bixby, it's almost perfect! (I just turned Bixby off). Also, I don't trust Oneplus One anymore after their recent data collection issue.

i all so had a one pluse be for but one pluse is missing a lot of things that got me away from it and that is samsung pay and water proof on the phone all so there updates are slow

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i all so had a one pluse be for but one pluse is missing a lot of things that got me away from it and that is samsung pay and water proof on the phone all so there updates are slow
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Yep, I forgot to mention s8 is waterproof, and I use samsung pay, A LOT!

So here is my take on S8 vs. One plus (and even Iphone X)..
1. After YEARS of rooting, and customizing ROM, I landed on the S8 and have no need for anything. I feel now like i own an Iphone..
2. Yes, in term of hardware - S8 is a level by its own. Stability, sturdiness, size, features - a winner in every category.
3. T-MO with S8 for me is a winner. I travel a lot out of country, and this phone works literally ANYWHERE. text, data plan, the works. With Whatsapp / Skype I am connected 24/7 with people, to a point I need to apologize not taking calls at my middle of the night local time. It is ALWAYS ON ! Never had it before with ANY phone of mine, and not willing to experiment.
4. Camera - Exceptional pics at low light. Good flash , quick response, what can one ask that isn't there..
5. Weight - Lighter than most. Easy to carry.
6. Battery - out of the box i get enough juice for business use. Charging an hour while on the laptop runs deep.. Quick charge and wireless is just working..
7. Screen - Just perfect.
Out of boredom I play in stores with all sort of phones.. even if they were free, they are not impressive..
Just my $0.02 from an old pal who has some 15 years of work with smart phones, and probably have tried them all...

I was a long time Galaxy owner. I've had all of them up to the 6. I jumped ship to the OnePlus 5. a few weeks later, I find myself missing Sammy... Looking into the 8 or the 8+. The OP5 isn't water"proof", and there are no waterproof cases. With 4 kids under 7, that's actually an important feature I miss. I went with the OP5 because it's 128GB/8GB RAM, and easy to play with different ROMs, but that's not enough to warrant keeping if the kids get ahold of it and get it wet.... Now to look into 8 or 8+ for TMo...
It looks like the S8 Active supports the 600mHz band... hmmmm....

S10+ vs. Note 9 which will last longer?

Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?
I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better CHANCE for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.
I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.
BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam. EDIT: no rooting and no custom romming for me on that device for ever.
If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?
Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?
What do You think?

No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.

Corv0 said:
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
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Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???

androidbadboy said:
Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
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What happened to your S8?

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What happened to your S8?
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When I updated trough OTA from Android 8.0 with Samsung Exp. to Android 9 Pie + One UI the pros: battery consumption went at least 3 times(!!!) the cons: S8 started lagging, microfreezing, isntt as smooth and speedy as its used to be, despite:
- very low amount of foreign apps that I installed since buying
- frequent restarts of phone as recommended
- phone has never been rooter or custom rommed

I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The note has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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Davey Dual Sim said:
I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The not has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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+! thanks points! for You!
The info about Note and S9 and eye-stare will be helpful.
How about when I use a S9 with a stylus pen instead of a finger?
As for deliberate slowing down pf phones..... I like Your attitude although I don't agree with your point of view cause when You really look at the bigger picture not only from Samsung's stand point but other brands, Google as Android manufactuer, the early 1900's story of bulbs, modern cars, everything and you return later form this wide picture to Samsung''s perspective with all that's been happening everywhere a person that is well oriented in mobile stuff and can even do some tests by himself can CLEARly see that phones are deliberately being slown down. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for instance could handle Android Pie with ease as well much more next ones if it weren't for that sad practice - of course AS LONG AS there would be no new hardware required new software feature(s) without which the Android future release would loose it's main event special funcionality.
However. I would like to hear what You and other have to say about it, cause I can see that people here make very interesting points and not often a major myth is being discovered thanks to our conversations.
Please enjoy and come in everyone

BTW is norma S10 without PLUS even a contender for Note9?

Kind people of XDA hellp me make a decision please. Write what you think

Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!

I have both devices. Battery better on the S10+. Screen better. Speed faster. Unlocks quicker and easier for me, lighter, thinner, sound is much louder , camera gas the wife mode, selfie is better. The only thing I am [not] missing is the s pen.

I had the note 9, and just got my s10 plus yesterday. There is absolutely no comparison camera wise. My note 9 was horrendous, and in any sunny out door setting it would blow out the highlights and over expose. The hdr function was **** too. S10 plus is the best phone I've ever used

I have both also but Ive only had the S10 plus for a few days so I cant make a detailed comparison yet.
What I will say is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner on the S10 needs more development..its terrible.
Hardly ever unlocks the first try and is slow when it does unlock. My Note 9 unlocks the first time every time and is instant.
Im sure sammy will improve the function with software updates but even after a few days the S10 plus is annoying me due to this.
I also miss being able to use face unlock on the S10 due to having to wear surgical gloves at work it is handy at tines, they really should have left the retina scanner on the device.
Unlocking your phone is a basic function and should work flawlessly, its just not there yet on the S10 IMO.

@ekerbuddyeker @sstanton86 @force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?

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@[email protected]@force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.

force70 said:
Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
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"nitpicking" - maybe you thought of not picking.
The reason I mentioned Note8 is that I just want to expriance that phone for a while and probably sell it after 3 months or who knows, everyone claims that I could get addicted to Note and never buy anything else....
I will test a bunch of flagships from many brands like Huawei, Samsung, LG, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and then decide which is the one for me. I bet it could be a Note vs. S10+ vs. a ..... Xiaomi (!!!!)

androidbadboy said:
Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.

Corv0 said:
Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?

androidbadboy said:
+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.

Corv0 said:
That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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1. Since Note's are business phones I think Samsung will give them longer time for security patches and probably +1 more Android update in compare with the Galaxy S series.
2. Note's are for businessman and You might think that they will change it every September for a new one cause they can simply afford it but I strangely enough they somehow get used to one and stay on him. I witnessed a guy that came down to the mall's electronic shop with the best Samsung device ever (Note 4) and with sad face told the sellers that he thinks it's time to change his Note4 for a newer Note because ........ damn I can't remember that cause I was so shocked.
3. Business man don't really care about having the best or latest phone. The don't have the teens or women's addiction to shopping and having everything new.
4. Businessman have a lot more on their heads than worry about a phone and I think that Samsung realizes it and that's why a Note would win in terms of longevity with a Galaxy S.
5. I am the kind of man that will not get screen burned out - too long story. Just believe me that this argument is not for me.
6.. Now it's up to which Note shall I buy. Cause S10+ will be bought eventually during 12to24 months.
7. Note8 is so cheap that I could make my dreams come true and test every brand like I mentioned a couple of posts before.
8. Please don't give up and try to fight for Note9 or Note8 or against them., cause if I don't buy any of them I could quicker roll over the competition phones by saving the money that I have for Note8/Note9.