Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
cassius1457 said:
Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
viper531986 said:
Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
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But what is he trying to say. I don't see anything wrong in the screenshot.
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I'll try to show you you with this screenshot.
cassius1457 said:
Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Do you mean a ghost image? If so, it's a common problem of amoled displays. You must not being for a long period with the same image in the display. Do you know, for instance, that samsung as applied in the new S8 a almost invisible scheme to move time to time the virtual home buttons to avoid burn the display?
It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
cassius1457 said:
It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
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Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning to avoid the screen burn in is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use for a long time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
flechinha said:
Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use so much time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
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I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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thahim said:
I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
If you want to notice that in your own phone try to have a regular white image in your phone above all screen area. Perhaps you can notice already at least the battery percentage, watch digits, or wifi or network scale in notification status bar place. Try it
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
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Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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thahim said:
Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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thahim said:
I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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thahim said:
I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that notification bar is not presented, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that that notification bar doesn't appear, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
thahim said:
I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
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As you can notice, the "always on" objects are moving time to time to avoid burn in of those pixels. The same for the home buttons in the galaxy S8. The black bar or tab in the top, or the blue bar in same area of facebook or other app's like some browsers, whatsapp etc. there's no chance to avoid the dimmer difference between the rest area and this one, also ghost numbers of clock, battery and so on. Of course as much of bright you have in scale, faster will be the burn-in effect and more you'll notice ghost images or tabs.
Me, to avoid that also, I installed a black theme background, not only to save battery ( in AMOLED screens white illumination screen area drain battery) as also to avoid white and strong color areas, cause these ones burn faster the pixels
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Ive had this powerhouse of a phone for just under 16 Hours, Screen has only been used for around half an hour etc,
Ive just noticed some screenburn on the screen The four buttons - (Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Apps) are visible on the screen when I look at a grey-ish background (Such as the speedx initial bg). Ive been through 6 Galaxy S2s, Three of them had this issue - Is it me, or is this a bit weird? Phone screen on for only 30mins since it was factory shiny&new, and theres already light screenburn.
Is this a characteristic of SAMOLED Plus, or is this a faultly batch? (Im on my 5th replacement phone from Amazon due to various faults). It seems a bit weird, a phone thats cost near £475 inc has this kind of issue.
Thanks In Advance,
Aman.
(Picture attached, You have to look quite carefully to see the greyish outlines of the boxes)
It doesn't look screen burn as it looks coloured. it might be the app you are running has transparency.
afaik, OLED does suffer from screen burn like plasmas do - potentially, but not that quick!
Well, it can happen. After a month i started seeing the same thing when pulling down the notification bar. So it's not app related, cause i don't use other launcher, i can clearly see the shadow of the 4 icons for a few seconds when pulling down the notification bar. They disappear pretty quickly, i'm not that bothered about that.
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
hi i dont know if my post will help or not
put i have a samilliar proplem with my sgs2 screen
i have proplems with colors like grey and dark blue
i will attack photos for u to see if u have the same proplem with colors like me
and my phone is only 14 day old
i really dont know if the colors are normal or not
p.s: make ur display 60/100 to see the colors
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
the first two pics are of the grey color ( to see if u have the same like this pic open msg and write a messege there is an option to write sound messege click on it
it will show the same thing see if u have the same like me
and the third pic is of the home screen to compare see if there is something wrong with ur screen
also could some one please look at his device and my pictures so i can now if there is something wrong with my device
thanks alot in advance
EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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Seems like a SAMOLED+ limitation as you say. I was just curious, it shouldnt bother me much whilst im using my phone normally.
ashish.vig said:
I just got my screen replaced, because of the screen burn issue, had a violet patch on top left, right where the viber icon sits, wihc caused the pinkish tint screen. Got my screen replaced in under 20 mins at samung service centre in Mumbai.
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If the screenburn gets really bad, I suppose i can always just use the 2yr Warranty I have on the phone to get the screen replaced. Waste of an invisibleshield though.
Considering the phone is less than a day old, the screen might go really weird in 2-3 months - Which is what im worried about.
ayhamx360 said:
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
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I would have to agree that the S1 screen is was a better display even if did have a more jagged edges on the fonts.
I have a similar issue in the messaging app, but with the keyboard. If I 'enable'(/turn on/whatever) it then disable it, it's 'shadow' stays there for a couple of seconds. It is however not a permanent burn in, so I think it's just the screen's limitation and it doesn't really bother me as this screen is still by far the best I've ever used.
EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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wouldn't that screw up video playback though? sounds more like a software bug
I turned the clock on the notification bar back to 24hr , as i read/saw the AM/PM can burn in as they are displayed a lot longer then the 24hr digits which move at least every hour.
I just discovered this issue last night. I had been noticing a few lines here and there on my regular usage and I thought it was just a defective screen. Through the use of Terminal's blue screen, I realized that it wasn't defective.
I have a car dock, and use PowerAMP in the car every day. As you can see above, those burn ins are the buttons in PowerAMP. I went to take a picture of my SGS2 with my N1, and while looking at the blue screen on my SGS2 through the display of the N1, I noticed the N1 had the issue too!
I'm trying to run JScreenFix now to see if it solves the problem, but I highly doubt it.
Will Samsung even honour the warranty for things like this?
I have an SGS1 of 1 year old and my SGS 2 bought in may. Side by side, I will never exchange my SGS2 for another SGS1. Screen quality (colours and details) is by far better on SGS2. No comparision
I also don't see any burn in in both devices (keybord test, status bar...). Maybe some defective devices around that you just should exchange
If you want to test your screen or anything on your phone type *#0*# into the keypad
If the burn don't show up on green blue or red then its something else
I also have the same issue. I can see shadow of the System task bar. It was quite vivid on RED and it shows as lighter blue on blue colour. And on white it became pale white. Bright yellow as well on yellow.
I've tried various things like put the screen on full brightness on Black and Red and blue but still have the shadow there.
I will see if i can get my warranty repair.
I just wanted to confirm that the SGS2 sure can have a Burn In, as it was declared before as "Burn In Proof".
I noticed it while playing the recently released Game "Osmos HD". The game's color temperature is pretty blue-dark, and thats where I can see a slight burn in of the Task Bar.
Afterwards I checked my screen with various LCD Test programs and BAM - with low brightness I see slight burn in of the whole task bar. I can even see the signal indicator, the battery percentage and the spot where the clock sits.
But its only visible at very low brightness and a blue-purple coloring.
I called my brother, who has the Galaxy S2 as well, and he directly went and checked with LCD Tester as well. He, too, reported to me that he also has a slight screen burn in of the task bar, tho its very tough to spot. I guess, if you dont know its there, u wont notice it.
We both have our SGS2 models now for roughly a year, and the screens already seem to decrease in quality and stability.
I am a fan of Super AMOLED+ color quality and contrasts, but my 2 bothers and me have all the yellow tint issue, tho its not very drastic, and all devices start to get kind of a permanent screen burn in.
Its really sad to see that the otherwise fabulous screens already show its age. I hoped that Samsung learned from the SGS1's issues and user feedback, but sadly, it seems like they kind of ignored the fact that the Super AMOLED cant take much action...
My girlfriends Desire HD's screen (which was my phone before I got the SGS2) is still showing good colors. Sometimes I think about getting an LCD device again...
I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
bambollero said:
I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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No, its not ghosting at all.
The taskbar image thats burned in is from MIUI. And since I am running either and Sammy ICS Build or Androidmeda for a while now, this image must've been there for longer than I thought.
As I said, I just noticed it yesterday while trying out the Osmos HD Demo. And its clearly the MIUI taskbar. Must be there for more than a couple of days already.
No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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I dunno why u are now comparing with the iPhone 4/4s here, but thanks ;-)
For how long are you using ur Galaxy S2 now? Mine is running non-stop since a roughly a year now.
And yes, it seems like a permanent screen burn in on my end. Just checked again, same visibility of the probably weeks-old MIUI taskbar.
Just got my HK version of the 16GB Wi-Fi only model last week. So far the 7.7 is pretty darn great. One issue I'm noticing though:
For the first few days I was using the Screen Filter app by haxor industry, so I could comfortable use the tablet at night in bed. The app, however, did not properly dim the status bar containing the navigation buttons & notification tray. I changed my dimming app to ScreenDim, which did the trick.
Now however--when dimming is enabled, and holding the tablet in landscape--- I'm noticing that there is discoloring in the exact area where the portrait-oriented status bar is positioned. The tablet looks fine when I'm working within any of the built-in brightness levels.
Anyone else experiencing anything similar?
Had mine now for just over a week. Have not noticed any burn in so far. Will watch out for it..
Many people claim to have seen the burn in effect of AMOLED. I been using my Galaxy S i9000 close to a year now but I do not notice anything. Maybe is my usage pattern. I don't usually spend more than an hour continuously on the screen. I'll pay more attention to the display unit when I drop by the phone shop next time.
If you are worry, you can try the HideBar apk that hide the status bar, but you need root. I tried it and it's working.
http://ppareit.github.com/HideBar/
I've had mine since the 7th Jan and I have the image burn - the status bar.. Not bothered by it though..
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This is likely due to the fact that the notification icons are blue coloured. In OLED displays, blue sub-pixels degrade faster than either red or green due to the fact that they have to be run at higher power levels to produce the same light levels as the red and green.
All OLED screens degrade and suffer burn-in sooner or later; you cannot avoid this.
Personally, I haven't yet experienced the burn-in effect with my unit, but perhaps another solution to delaying this inevitability is to create a modified build.prop which changes the overall blue theme to green instead?
The SAMOLED+ screen on my SGS2 from last May hasn't shown any signs of degradation yet, probably from the green theme of gingerbread.
Just thought I would chime in here. I just recently sold my GS2 which never did what my Galaxy Nexus does. From time to time when I move about through apps or screens I can still see feint remnants from the previous screen. The best example is going from my home screen to the market where my clock widget is still visible for a few seconds. I can turn my screen off and then on or just continue navigating until it disappears. If this is similar to what my Galaxy Nexus does then I believe it's not really an issue at all. (Although I was expecting differently from the Tabs screen since it's a Plus whereas this is not.)
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Okay, while I don't have the status bar "burn in" yet, I notice that when using the Screen Filter apps to dim the screen, the lower part of the screen (near the Samsung logo) is dimmer than the rest of the screen no matter when it is view in portrait or landscape. I'm not sure if this is cause by the apps itself or the display panel having unequal brightness. No problem when operating with the device standard lowest brightness.
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Okay, while I don't have the status bar "burn in" yet, I notice that when using the Screen Filter apps to dim the screen, the lower part of the screen (near the Samsung logo) is dimmer than the rest of the screen no matter when it is view in portrait or landscape. I'm not sure if this is cause by the apps itself or the display panel having unequal brightness. No problem when operating with the device standard lowest brightness.
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Yes; this is exactly what I am experiencing. Assuming it's not the dimming applications' doing, I was wondering if Samsung configure the screen like this on purpose...perhaps as a preventative measure thinking the edge by the Samsung logo would have the static image of status bar the majority of the time in daily use.
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This is likely due to the fact that the notification icons are blue coloured. In OLED displays, blue sub-pixels degrade faster than either red or green due to the fact that they have to be run at higher power levels to produce the same light levels as the red and green.
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Yeah Samsung are geniuses. They can produce the screen, but don't know the limitations. You would think they would avoid using blue for cumpulsory static images that you can't turn off. I don't know why they couldn't use red, green, or yellow in that area and avoid any color with blue in it, including white.
Dumb. dumb. dumb.
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Yeah Samsung are geniuses. They can produce the screen, but don't know the limitations. You would think they would avoid using blue for cumpulsory static images that you can't turn off. I don't know why they couldn't use red, green, or yellow in that area and avoid any color with blue in it, including white.
Dumb. dumb. dumb.
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Agreed. It is quite an oversight.
Having said that, I haven't yet had any burn-in issues with my unit, even with my screen at full brightness just about all the time.
I found a yellowish mark in the same place of status bar when I hide it or change from portrait position to landscape position .. and I can see it only in gray screen like market or settings. I use my tab only for 1 week . Is it burn in? . Dose it go away by itself when I hide the status bar for a long time?
I think it won't go away. Mine got the same yellowwish on the status bar. Actually I love this phone more than any other devices I used to use before but it actually annoy me with this bug screen.
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I was going to sell mine and buy another one.. but now I think I will keep it because this screen bug will be in the most of this device
I must be lucky! I've had my device for almost a month now, run my screen at 100%, and I have yet to experience any issues whatsoever! Odd... Not complaining though!
I'm just wondering is there anyways to fix this bug screen? Is that any firmwares can fix it? I think we should complain to Samsung for this burn screen. It is very annoying :-(
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This bug is more visable at low brightness
I have mine for over three weeks now and I've no discoloration in the status bar area and I'm using the Tab a lot.
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Not all screens are created equally so others may not have burn-ins over 2yrs while others will get it as early as 2 weeks.
Just have it replaced and hope for a better screen.
How much u pay for replacement? Mine can't cuz here no warrenty :-( so sad
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I'm a Samsung user from Note 1 and all the display AMOLED suffers the burn in , expecially on the status bar ( clock , signal level , battery... )
Why Samsung doesn't enable the Immersive mode?
http://developer.android.com/training/system-ui/immersive.html
Could we send to Samsung some advices? ( It worked for microSD )
I have frinds using the sgs1. No burn in what do ever. I used an s4 for over a yr and no burn in
I never noticed this issue and all my phones have been amoled
I also have the Note 1, and it does have "burn-in" where the statusbar is. By having a black statusbar or static black areas, the black pixels are OFF, which means that those pixels won't be used as much as the rest of them that are lit. This means that the pixels that have been off for most of the time, are brighter than the other ones that have been actively used for a long period of time, and the "background" of the statusbar will then be brighter than the rest of the display when they're active.
Lollipop removed that black statusbar at the homescreen, and a lot of apps today have a colored statusbar, which means that that area is active, so the pixels will age at the same pace, avoiding "burn in". So you'll actually risk getting "burn ins" if you use a black theme for a longer period of time. A lot of people complain that Samsung doesn't use on-screen navigation, but there's a reason. On-screen navigation requires a black bar at the bottom of the screen, which again, means that those pixels will be in-active for most of the time, causing burn-in at the bottom of the screen. They avoid that by using hardware buttons instead.
I don't see it as a problem if you just use the phone as intended, and if I notice any burn in like two years from now, it won't be any issue, since I'll probably move to a different phone by then. Also, keep in mind that AMOLED tech is always evolving, and there have been massive changes in quality since the first Note, so don't compare the panels of the Note 1 with the S7.
My last phone was a Note3 and... yes after 2year he was having burn in guys... when you use facebook or whatsapp the status bar becomes black and the icon of battery signal and other symbols got stucked....
if you use phone with %100 brightness and 10 hours a day. You have more chance for burn in. Dont use with full brightness. I'm student and i worked at samsung techhnical service. Mostly demo devices has burn in because they works weeks/months with %100 brightness.
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My last phone was a Note3 and... yes after 2year he was having burn in guys... when you use facebook or whatsapp the status bar becomes black and the icon of battery signal and other symbols got stucked....
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It's actually the other way around It's the black area around the battery and other icons that is brighter due to the black pixels being a lot more in-active than the surrounding pixels that are lit. The brightness of the active pixels gets weaker over time, so the black pixels that are in-active in longer periods of time won't have been used as much, so they're brighter than the other ones that have been active the whole time.
I think most people here get it by now, but I just want to point it out in a more obvious way, so I won't repeat this again in this thread, lol.
"Burn-in" is also technically the wrong thing to call it since there isn't any burn-in at all, but yeah :silly:
call it as you like but imho is a problem... also use an app in immersive mode is more better...! I don't need to see time o signal when i'm on facebook!
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call it as you like but imho is a problem... also use an app in immersive mode is more better...! I don't need to see time o signal when i'm on facebook!
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That's what I'm telling you. There's no disagreement here.
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I have frinds using the sgs1. No burn in what do ever. I used an s4 for over a yr and no burn in
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Same, S2, S3, and S4. No burn-in whatsoever.
I had slight burn in one one of my S's S2 or S3 I think but nothing major. However, I just checked out a store model S7 edge which literally had burn-in or as the poster above pointed out "pixel brightness level difference". It was so bad and obvious, I would not have bought that phone for one third of its retail price.
Is it possible to have immersive mode on my S7 edge? Via an app or something?
matterial design means something for any one? this helps a lot to avoid the burn in on the amoled screen, olders androids versions dont have it, so i think burn in problems was on the past, i think
Not understanding how immersive mode would help. The screen is still lit with colors. And Samsung does use immersive mode on certain apps, I just used Samsung Pay and saw it.
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Last night I noticed that my soft keys and notification bar have already started to burn into my phone. I was planning on keeping this phone for years. Is this happening to anyone else? Should I try to get a replacement? It is still a pretty brand new phone.
This is pretty normal, actually. The biggest disadvantage with AMOLED-screen phones is that the screens degenerate before you get rid of the phone. My Turbo 2 started getting screen burn-in about 5 months after I purchased it, but I exchanged that one for a new one. The On-screen buttons on an AMOLED display only makes the problem worse; AMOLED-screen phones with capacitive keys will only get burn in at the status bar, in typical conditions. Another thing: since the AMOLED screen is primarily made of a multitude of LEDs, these LEDs are driven very hard when white is displayed on the screen, and the LEDs turn themselves off when black is displayed on the screen, so that contrast between the black bar and the white buttons causes the bar to "reverse burn", where the bar will show colors the way the entire screen did when the phone was new, the other parts of the screen will be darker and dingier than the bar (and the status bar), and the on-screen buttons will be the dingiest part of the screen. Also, by "dingy", I mean the AMOLED, over time, will take a noticeable shift to yellow, where every color will have a yellowish cast, due to the Organic Decomposition of AMOLED screens (they are made of organic material) as well as the fact that the blue subpixels are the first to decompose, because they shine the brightest. The yellow shift over time cannot be changed or reversed. The on-screen keys and bar burn in can be slowed/ counteracted by downloading an app called GMD Immersive, which allows you to put your phone in Fullscreen mode in most situations you are using it. You do have to bring up the on-screen keys when you are using the keyboard, but in most other cases when the screen will be on for extended periods of time, the on-screen keys and black bar will not burn in as quicky and this app is a good thing to use to counteract this. However, the GMD Immersive app also allows you to take the status bar out of view, as well. This is a very good app for any AMOLED-screen phone to counteract the eventual burn-in that you will receive. *Side note* I know this is unrelated to what I just said, but the belief that AMOLED screens are more efficient than LCDs is not always true. It largely depends on the content you put on the screen. An AMOLED screen will be more efficient than the LCD when colors displayed on the screen are darker/closer to black, where the AMOLED's LEDs are not driven as hard or are not turned on at all, whereas the LCD's backlight is still active when displaying dark colors/blacks (It is a good idea to surf the web in invert cors on an AMOLED-screen phone if you want to save a lot of power). An LCD display is more efficient displaying lighter colors/whites, because the AMOLED's LEDs are driven very hard when displaying whites/lighter colors, and are shining brighter and using more power to do so, whereas the LCD's backlight is working no harder to display whites than it is to display darker colors. For my usage, LCDs would be more efficient than AMOLEDs due to the fact that most content I display on-screen is usually white or a lighter color.
AdmanAbou said:
Last night I noticed that my soft keys and notification bar have already started to burn into my phone. I was planning on keeping this phone for years. Is this happening to anyone else? Should I try to get a replacement? It is still a pretty brand new phone.
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It's usually not permanent, it's more image retention than burn-in. If you're worried about it, just run this program, or one like it regularly-
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
CRT's and Plasma screens, however, are very prone to burn-in, especially Plasma. Screen Savers help on CRT's, and most newer Plasma displays have tools built-in to help keep the screen free of that. LCD and OLED screens are much less prone to burn-in, it can happen, it's just pretty rare.
californiarailroader said:
It's usually not permanent, it's more image retention than burn-in. If you're worried about it, just run this program, or one like it regularly-
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
CRT's and Plasma screens, however, are very prone to burn-in, especially Plasma. Screen Savers help on CRT's, and most newer Plasma displays have tools built-in to help keep the screen free of that. LCD and OLED screens are much less prone to burn-in, it can happen, it's just pretty rare.
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It is permanent, and running that app for hours and a bit each day didn't fix it. After using another phone for a few minutes, I noticed just how yellow the screen on my Z Force had become in just a month. I'm so sad. I really wanted to love this phone but now I just see yellow sadness.
I haven't had any screen burn since my Galaxy S4. And i just checked my Z and nothing. I have about 5 hours of OST a day and have been using this since launch.
AdmanAbou said:
It is permanent, and running that app for hours and a bit each day didn't fix it. After using another phone for a few minutes, I noticed just how yellow the screen on my Z Force had become in just a month. I'm so sad. I really wanted to love this phone but now I just see yellow sadness.
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No, it isn't always permanent.
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californiarailroader said:
No, it isn't always permanent.
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I sure hope not. Still trying that app. Verizon offered to replace it, but I don't know if it'll just keep happening.
AdmanAbou said:
It is permanent, and running that app for hours and a bit each day didn't fix it. After using another phone for a few minutes, I noticed just how yellow the screen on my Z Force had become in just a month. I'm so sad. I really wanted to love this phone but now I just see yellow sadness.
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What I would do is simply get a replacement Z force, and when u do get your replacement, I would use an app called GMD Immersive (look it up on the play store), which will allow you to slide your on-screen keys in and out of view, and/or your status bar as well. My turbo 2 got burn in after 3 months of using it, but ever since I started using GMD Immersive on my replacement Turbo 2 (the other had battery issues) I have little to no burn in even after 2 1/2 months of use.
I know this sounds silly but are you sure you don't have some shift enabled that makes the color temp plummet in the evening?
Since Apple came out with night shift there are people taking their phones in because they are yellow at night! LOL
Really hope mine dosnt get screen burn. Im using the gmd app as suggested but I find the keyboard gets buggy. My Moto XF also got burns after few months. Really hope this isn't the case for this beauty of a phone.
Waiting on a warranty replacement from Moto. Had to take pictures showing the burned in images and email them. Going to try the app from day one and hope for the best.
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Yup just noticed mine has a highly visible burn. That's just crazy. My 3 year old nexus 6 has no burn at all. I would request a warranty but I do not want a refurbished phone.
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Could the yellow be from the plastic upper screen protector?
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This is pretty normal, actually. The biggest disadvantage with AMOLED-screen phones is that the screens degenerate before you get rid of the phone. My Turbo 2 started getting screen burn-in about 5 months after I purchased it, but I exchanged that one for a new one. The On-screen buttons on an AMOLED display only makes the problem worse; AMOLED-screen phones with capacitive keys will only get burn in at the status bar, in typical conditions. Another thing: since the AMOLED screen is primarily made of a multitude of LEDs, these LEDs are driven very hard when white is displayed on the screen, and the LEDs turn themselves off when black is displayed on the screen, so that contrast between the black bar and the white buttons causes the bar to "reverse burn", where the bar will show colors the way the entire screen did when the phone was new, the other parts of the screen will be darker and dingier than the bar (and the status bar), and the on-screen buttons will be the dingiest part of the screen. Also, by "dingy", I mean the AMOLED, over time, will take a noticeable shift to yellow, where every color will have a yellowish cast, due to the Organic Decomposition of AMOLED screens (they are made of organic material) as well as the fact that the blue subpixels are the first to decompose, because they shine the brightest. The yellow shift over time cannot be changed or reversed. The on-screen keys and bar burn in can be slowed/ counteracted by downloading an app called GMD Immersive, which allows you to put your phone in Fullscreen mode in most situations you are using it. You do have to bring up the on-screen keys when you are using the keyboard, but in most other cases when the screen will be on for extended periods of time, the on-screen keys and black bar will not burn in as quicky and this app is a good thing to use to counteract this. However, the GMD Immersive app also allows you to take the status bar out of view, as well. This is a very good app for any AMOLED-screen phone to counteract the eventual burn-in that you will receive. *Side note* I know this is unrelated to what I just said, but the belief that AMOLED screens are more efficient than LCDs is not always true. It largely depends on the content you put on the screen. An AMOLED screen will be more efficient than the LCD when colors displayed on the screen are darker/closer to black, where the AMOLED's LEDs are not driven as hard or are not turned on at all, whereas the LCD's backlight is still active when displaying dark colors/blacks (It is a good idea to surf the web in invert cors on an AMOLED-screen phone if you want to save a lot of power). An LCD display is more efficient displaying lighter colors/whites, because the AMOLED's LEDs are driven very hard when displaying whites/lighter colors, and are shining brighter and using more power to do so, whereas the LCD's backlight is working no harder to display whites than it is to display darker colors. For my usage, LCDs would be more efficient than AMOLEDs due to the fact that most content I display on-screen is usually white or a lighter color.
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I have/had burn issues with my Moto G4 (IPS LCD Display). The problem is in the pure whites on screen, those are the objects which burn in. Since pure Android Marshmallow or Nougat don't provide a different colour tone setting, I worked around it by downloading a Bluelight Filter app (I recommend Hardy-Infinity's filter). I select the neutral black filter and put the intensity to 11%. that resolves all the burn ins, while used.
It's quite an annoying problem, and the only reason why I refrain from buying anymore pure Android phones, until the OS comes with an integrated screen tone setting.
This "issue" is totally normal with an OLED display, and there's really nothing that can be done to stop it, or "correct" it, other than not use the display!
The menu bar will be the most noticeable artifact in the early going, but with years of use you'll see the entire screen, with the exception of the typically-black menu-bar area(!), will no longer be as bright. The whites will be more grayish and the colours will be more muted.
All-in-all, you'll probably never really notice or care about it, but that said, no magical app is going to restore what is a natural, unavoidable, process for these screens.
Well, a relative of mine got the Z Force for Christmas last year, and the screen had severe burn in and the shattershield was fuzzy from discoloration and hairline scratches. The burn in was so severe that the navigation bar, the notification bar and home screen icons were all visible on solid backgrounds. Fortunately, Verizon replaced it under warranty. I've loved Motorola since the StarTac days and have recommended them to everyone, but seeing the burn in issues on the Z and the lack of innovation in the Z2 Force, I can't recommend them anymore.
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AdmanAbou said:
Last night I noticed that my soft keys and notification bar have already started to burn into my phone. I was planning on keeping this phone for years. Is this happening to anyone else? Should I try to get a replacement? It is still a pretty brand new phone.
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Yes, the screen burn issue is real, very real. Among other user + upside down port-a-potty issues constantly popping up.
I had experimental high contrast text on for minimal time but think it likely had more to do with me leaving vibrant colors mode set on for a couple months before I noticed the burn-in of Google emblem and notification bar.. yep, the same notification bar that always is wasting scarce screen space instead of scrolling up and away like on every decent phone on the market.
I enjoyed my Droid X as a more user friendly and functional device than the MOTO Z, which has been an ongoing hate-hate dysfunctional relationship.
I actually have some pixels burned in at the top of the phone, kind of where the black bars would be if you play a video at original 16:9 format.
I haven't checked my navbar button are yet.
I'm dissappointed, I've had the Galaxy S4, S5, S6, and S7 and none of those displays got burn-ins for me.
Can you take a photo of it with another camera?
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if you have the same "problem ". I've received a galaxy s8 last Friday. Everything was great except one. I've a noticed a potential image retention. For example, the (black) navbar remained on the screen for 3-5 second after closing an app. Or the black bar on the top (when apps aren't full screen) was noticeable also after closing. So I went to a store to see their galaxy s8 and s8+ and test it. The results was clear, their galaxy s8 had the same "problem" but not the s8+. So I decided to change my phone and get a new. Surprise, same thing... then I went to another store and their s8 also had this potential issue but not their s8+. So I've seen 4 galaxy s8 having this problem. My question is simple. Am I the only one ? Will it get worse ? Is it normal ? I don't think that my store is going to change my phone again. Keep in mind that this "image retention" is more noticeable on a blue or gray picture. Thanks for your answers.
Wait i thought black pixels would be turned off when watching with black bars so that wouldnt cause a burn in or does it?
lvinwithandroid said:
Wait i thought black pixels would be turned off when watching with black bars so that wouldnt cause a burn in or does it?
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Correct, black is turned off, but with black background, light coloured icons are on, and quickly burn in compared to those around it.
But this seems ridiculously quick.
oled burn-in is actually caused by pixels being turned off, but shouldn't be visible this quickly.
it's caused by active pixels being "used up" quicker than inactive pixels.
but are you sure there's actual burn in?
the navigation and notification bars aren't completely transparent, they'll always show a faint black background that looks a bit like a shadow.
and on oled screens that completely disable "black" pixels often have a slight delay when switching between black and colored.
Yes and it's not that bad. I just know that I had this problem on my s6 edge after 6 months. So if I have it after one week with my s8, how will be the screen after 6 months ? I'm just worry about permanent burn in...
thedicemaster said:
oled burn-in is actually caused by pixels being turned off, but shouldn't be visible this quickly.
it's caused by active pixels being "used up" quicker than inactive pixels.
but are you sure there's actual burn in?
the navigation and notification bars aren't completely transparent, they'll always show a faint black background that looks a bit like a shadow.
and on oled screens that completely disable "black" pixels often have a slight delay when switching between black and colored.
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so this means using black wallpaper is not recommended ?
hamdir said:
so this means using black wallpaper is not recommended ?
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Either defective screens or s8 screen in general is a joke. My s7e doesn't have any visible burn-out(yep, that's how it's called in amoled screens, it's decaying light output of the individual pixels compared to the those around them) after 8m heavy use.
Did anyone see this? http://phandroid.com/2017/05/02/galaxy-s8-screen-burn-in-fix/
high_voltage said:
Either defective screens or s8 screen in general is a joke. My s7e doesn't have any visible burn-out(yep, that's how it's called in amoled screens, it's decaying light output of the individual pixels compared to the those around them) after 8m heavy use.
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So you had the same problem like us but it didn't get worse ?
Enzo1707 said:
So you had the same problem like us but it didn't get worse ?
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No, I don't have any kind of a problem with the display and I hope it will stay that way. I am just saying I never tried to search for it hense no visible burn-out. All I care is for a real usage problem, not forced search for it.