I've had my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 since 10/13-10/14, pretty close to when it was released at Verizon. I've loved it, loved its tons of features, since I got it, and have had many people jealous. (I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus, a heck of a reliable phone, when I realized that the Nexus 5 would also not go to Verizon.) In the past 6 weeks, i've encountered some curious behavior that i'm stumped and frustrated by. Overall, I love the phone.
Notes: I have searched and searched and searched for help, via Google and via XDA / AndroidCentral / other sites. My phone is un-rooted (never rooted), and has not been factory reset, dropped, submerged in liquids, or in any way mishandled. My phone uses the stock launcher and aside from some games, does not have a ton of apps installed.
However (Stated verbosely but with detail):
1) On two separate occasions, my Alarm has crashed. I used my Galaxy Nexus for nearly 2 years without ever having it fail to wake me (with many roms in between); I used my Droid X for nearly a year prior without ever having it fail to wake me, and before that my Blackberry Storm 2 for nearly a year without it failing. I'm not used to my phone failing me as an alarm.
In both cases, last Thursday (11/21) and today (11/25), I woke up to my phone acting as though the Alarm was still going off. (The notification bar indicated I should either Snooze / Dismiss the Alarm). I woke up about an hour after it should have went off, and there is absolutely zero possibility that I slept through the alarm going off that long. When I unlocked my phone, in both cases, it indicated the Alarm app had crashed.
I was using Timely on my Galaxy Nexus for the last few months of it as my daily driver, and then for the first few weeks on this phone. I immediately assumed it was the culprit, and went back to Alarm Clock Plus (the app I had used for nearly the entire time on my Nexus). This morning, Alarm Clock Plus crashed (with the 'Wait / Report / Close' options), and i'm now more confident that Timely was not the culprit.
In both cases, with both apps and on both days, after I clear the error, I had a similar experience.
- On Thursday, I pressed the power button to turn off the screen, and when I pulled the phone out of my pocket about 20 minutes later, it was completely powered off. However, I could not power it back on by pressing the button, and had to perform a battery pull to turn it back on.
- Today, I had pressed the button to perform a restart, and only tapped it instead of pressing + hold. Same thing happened: it turned off the screen but also somehow powered it entirely down, and required a battery pull to start it again.
- After Thursday's debacle, I have rebooted my phone multiple times, so it's definitely not because of an uptime related issue.
The only thing I can think of for the above scenario, is that I did have it work (the alarm) without any issues for a few weeks, and both issues (and some other random crashing of Google Plus, etc) have been following the update that was released by Verizon.
2) This is an issue i've experienced for the entire life of the phone, and is flummoxing me and extremely frustrating. I loved using the Droid X and then Nexus as my music player (both via headphones and definitely in the car via the Aux on my older stereo). On my Nexus I experimented with different Equalizers, including ones from Google Play (I liked 'Equalizer' quite a bit actually), and then I tried out and enjoyed Beats (or whatever it is now called, NexusLouder or whatever), to great enjoyment. Music sounded awesome.
On my Note, I expected at least a marginally similar level of audio (to that of the Nexus without Equalizer), until I rooted (which I have not done yet). I am facing (like others have sporadically reported) and issue where it appears that my Audio or Equalizer or something is turning off or turning on between songs. I'll plug it in to my car stereo, slap it in the window mount thing, and let it ride. It plays one track (sometimes two) without issue. Then, it will play a song either really quietly or really loudly. (I don't mean the volume has changed; it has not and I have verified this). The solution i've found is to go back (or forth) a track and then return to the same track, which has resolved this 100% of the time .... until a few tracks later. /rinserepeatrage
- I have tried this with the same Equalizer app, a few other Equalizer apps, and even without a Google Play Equalizer app (using only the built in one).
- On my Nexus and now my Note, i'm using Google Music, and use the pre-downloaded/cached songs.
- I have tried clearing the data / cache for Google Music and uninstalling / reinstalling it, to no effect.
- The only interesting thing i've noticed is that after the Verizon Note update (I believe), the audio appears to only get softer, rather than getting ear splittingly louder.
- Additionally, this seems to occur much more frequently when the screen is off.
Today I am going to the Verizon store and they will likely tell me they have to perform a Factory Reset (which is why I haven't already done one) before they'll give me another one, in the case that it is a hardware issue. I will very carefully be monitoring and see if this corrects / resolves either issue. I also intend to NOT install the update if I have any say (I don't know how not-rooted phones work with updates, i.e. if it is required or prompts for update, etc) If any of you have any ideas, solutions or suggestions, i'd be very open to them. I love this phone, but I absolutely hate that these two very important functions are not working consistently.
Well, i've been to Verizon and as expected, they heard my issue and thought that a factory reset might be the solution.
Their logic, which is not terribly shaky, was: the recent update (or even the factory pre-load of the OS) could have config or factory fragments / blahblahblah that a clear of the data / cache / etc could resolve. This made sense to me.
After the reset, we tried to recreate the Google Music bug in the office, no such luck, all looked good on the home front. I tried a few more songs on the way home, still not able to recreate the issue. I got home, all my stock apps updated, then I went through and installed apps, blah blah blah. I also cached the songs for an album so I could continue to confirm my confidence in this as being resolved.
I then went for a drive not too long ago, and the issue occurred again. I also noticed (though it may have existed prior to the factory reset) a new issue / symptom. When I scrub, like clockwork, the issue shows up. Song plays perfectly, I scrub (even only a few seconds forward), equalizer is gone and the music is much quieter. I have no clue what to think now. I will be hesitantly trying to recreate the alarm clock bug over the next few days. I also may try the old 'uninstall apps until I can't recreate' method too, for at least the Music bug.
If any of you all have thoughts, that would be extremely appreciated. Else, i'll keep reporting info as I get it, maybe this will help someone else.
Mine crashed Saturday. Woke up to the force close message.
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Mine crashed Saturday. Woke up to the force close message.
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Sorry to hear that! I know i've seen other reports on the interwebs saying similar things, but did not see any threads with discussions about theories or investigation, beyond the 'me too' I see often (which is entirely fine, and unfortunate for those who also have this issue!). Having the volume helps a ton, but i'm surprised I didn't see more analytical or critical thinking / discussion happening in the many threads, and figured i'd just get the ball rolling and hope this helps others (even if it's just mostly me putting findings down).
That said, I have more information to offer.
1) Alarm - Day 1, following the Factory Reset yesterday, it started without issue (not unexpected). I expect that the issue (if it does) will re-appear sometime around Friday - Saturday.
- Other than installing some apps (as mentioned previously) mostly things like Netflix and some games, I have not installed anything that (from what I can see) should interfere with an Alarm app
- I am presently using Alarm Clock Plus (the second of two apps I encountered the issue in); this is for consistency, and also because the app worked without issue for over a year prior to this
- I have not 'Turned off' any apps, though previously (prior to the Factory Reset) I had turned off some apps mentioned in other XDA threads as not required by the system to run (mostly Verizon and Samsung apps)
- I am not and have not rooted this phone at any time; this is 100% stock Android at this point (well, as Stock as a Samsung phone gets)
- After speaking with a few friends, they have confirmed that: this issue has occurred with the stock Alarm Clock app and another 3rd party app (one I have not tried yet) as well; but one friend has not experienced any Alarm issues at all (though he may just not be aware of them, so i'm taking his account with a grain of salt)
2) Music - To add to my previous notes about the issue around the equalizer ..
- I am able to (as indicated previously) re-create the issue on-demand by scrubbing
- I can re-create the issue relatively reliably by hitting 'Pause / Play', and I didn't see a difference (in ability to reproduce) whether it was from the lock screen or in the app that I hit 'Pause / Play'
- It does appear that (with inconsistent results) I experience the Equalizer turning off / on by itself, if I keep listening to songs the issue seems to reverse. (i.e. Song 1 is fine, Song 2 - Equalizer turns off, Song 3 or Song 4 - Equalizer turns back on) I encountered this just a bit before this post, and sure enough, after hitting 'Pause / Play' I was able to verify that the Equalizer had turned back on.
- I am now 100% positive it is the Equalizer being horked by the phone / OS / something. This is based on replication of the issue (where it sounds like it gets soft) being the exact same sound as when the Equalizer is just turned entirely off.
A few things to test today / next few days:
Alarm issue:
-None at this time; keep observing
Music issue:
- Google Play Equalizer app (see if issue occurs still outside of the stock Equalizer)
- Try non-Cached music to see if this is a factor (including 'Pause / Play'; song scrubbing; etc)
- Try an alternative to Google Music (this is not a practical solution to me, but would provide comparison data)
Last note:
- After completing the Factory Reset and hearing my story yesterday, the Verizon rep did inform me that I could bring the phone back, if the issue keeps happening, and exchange it for a refurb. I'd rather avoid this if possible, as I feel like i'm not as confident it is a hardware issue as before, but this is an option (and may be an option for others wishing to try this path). Obviously, I hadn't rooted, so the Manufacturer's Warranty was available, so YMMV.
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Sorry to hear that! I know i've seen other reports on the interwebs saying similar things, but did not see any threads with discussions about theories or investigation, beyond the 'me too' I see often (which is entirely fine, and unfortunate for those who also have this issue!). Having the volume helps a ton, but i'm surprised I didn't see more analytical or critical thinking / discussion happening in the many threads, and figured i'd just get the ball rolling and hope this helps others (even if it's just mostly me putting findings down).
That said, I have more information to offer.
1) Alarm - Day 1, following the Factory Reset yesterday, it started without issue (not unexpected). I expect that the issue (if it does) will re-appear sometime around Friday - Saturday.
- Other than installing some apps (as mentioned previously) mostly things like Netflix and some games, I have not installed anything that (from what I can see) should interfere with an Alarm app
- I am presently using Alarm Clock Plus (the second of two apps I encountered the issue in); this is for consistency, and also because the app worked without issue for over a year prior to this
- I have not 'Turned off' any apps, though previously (prior to the Factory Reset) I had turned off some apps mentioned in other XDA threads as not required by the system to run (mostly Verizon and Samsung apps)
- I am not and have not rooted this phone at any time; this is 100% stock Android at this point (well, as Stock as a Samsung phone gets)
- After speaking with a few friends, they have confirmed that: this issue has occurred with the stock Alarm Clock app and another 3rd party app (one I have not tried yet) as well; but one friend has not experienced any Alarm issues at all (though he may just not be aware of them, so i'm taking his account with a grain of salt)
2) Music - To add to my previous notes about the issue around the equalizer ..
- I am able to (as indicated previously) re-create the issue on-demand by scrubbing
- I can re-create the issue relatively reliably by hitting 'Pause / Play', and I didn't see a difference (in ability to reproduce) whether it was from the lock screen or in the app that I hit 'Pause / Play'
- It does appear that (with inconsistent results) I experience the Equalizer turning off / on by itself, if I keep listening to songs the issue seems to reverse. (i.e. Song 1 is fine, Song 2 - Equalizer turns off, Song 3 or Song 4 - Equalizer turns back on) I encountered this just a bit before this post, and sure enough, after hitting 'Pause / Play' I was able to verify that the Equalizer had turned back on.
- I am now 100% positive it is the Equalizer being horked by the phone / OS / something. This is based on replication of the issue (where it sounds like it gets soft) being the exact same sound as when the Equalizer is just turned entirely off.
A few things to test today / next few days:
Alarm issue:
-None at this time; keep observing
Music issue:
- Google Play Equalizer app (see if issue occurs still outside of the stock Equalizer)
- Try non-Cached music to see if this is a factor (including 'Pause / Play'; song scrubbing; etc)
- Try an alternative to Google Music (this is not a practical solution to me, but would provide comparison data)
Last note:
- After completing the Factory Reset and hearing my story yesterday, the Verizon rep did inform me that I could bring the phone back, if the issue keeps happening, and exchange it for a refurb. I'd rather avoid this if possible, as I feel like i'm not as confident it is a hardware issue as before, but this is an option (and may be an option for others wishing to try this path). Obviously, I hadn't rooted, so the Manufacturer's Warranty was available, so YMMV.
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My stock alarm crashed yesterday. Woke up to a completely black phone. Only the pulldown would get out of the crashed alarm app. Quite unfortunate. 100% stock, unrooted.
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My stock alarm crashed yesterday. Woke up to a completely black phone. Only the pulldown would get out of the crashed alarm app. Quite unfortunate. 100% stock, unrooted.
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Sorry to hear that
On a similar note, if anyone can re-produce the Music issue i've mentioned, that would help me confirm i'm not crazy or alone in my issue.
Of note:
Music:
- I have attempted to recreate the issue in Pandora, but was unsuccessful. The audio remained unchanged when I did a Pause / Play (I was unable to scrub, unsure if that's a Premium feature or just not a thing with Pandora). I will not be able to try a local song with another music app until I am home this evening.
- I was able to recreate the issues (scrubbing, between track loss of equalizer, pause/play) with the Google Play equalizer app 'Equalizer' reliably.
- I was able to recreate the issues (scrubbing, between track loss of equalizer, pause/play) using both Cached music and Streaming, with stock and 3rd party equalizer
After searching for awhile for an already open bug report, I have opened up a bug report on the AOSP site, in case you are interested, for the Music issue: 62864 is the defect number; I am unable to link it since i'm still not yet a real boy.
I will hold off on creating one for the Alarm issue until I am able to recreate it post-Factory Reset.
This will likely be the last update until post-Thanksgiving, and will hopefully bring a measure of consistency (if the Alarm error returns) or confidence (if it doesn't) to the information I have.
Music:
- I was able to recreate the issue with scrubbing and 'pause/play' with a song located directly on the phone (not downloaded/cached via Google Music)
Other notes:
- I've seen other sites with similar sounding issues for different phones, such as the Galaxy S4, well before the Note 3 came out
- This is noted as being a bug with the equalizer, but not specific to the .api or .dll or whatever Android calls reusable things (as this is an issue with not just the stock equalizer, which points to some system dealie rather than the specific equalizer)
- I have not yet tested another app such as PowerAmp or similar, but suggested workarounds on the GS4 issue thread (on AndroidCentral) indicate disabling the equalizer altogether (not a great workaround) or using another app (not confirmed as a workaround; by me or the thread)
- One other forum suggests it is due to a bug in the OS with the equalizer not having a persistent icon in the notification bar, and suggests using another app (the 'Equalizer' app from Google Play is suggested) to resolve; this thread was started in May of 2013, but does point to it turning off during playback, not in between songs
- Still another person does report the issue I have experienced, with the issue displaying when the screen is off during the change from one track to another; this person also indicates WinAmp did not resolve this issue (implying that: A) local tracks are not the fix, and B) that another player is not)
Alarm:
- Day 2 after Factory Reset, the alarm went off again without issue
- I have had difficulty with finding many other threads or information; if you are reading this and have experienced this, it would be helpful for information to note that you have had it, and if you have the MJ7 update (or whatever) that too would help
- I might end up doing a bit of 'set an alarm for 5 minutes' testing and see if I can recreate the issue with any reliability
Learning is fun! Happy Thanksgiving and/or Hanukkah everyone!
verziehenone said:
Alarm:
- Day 2 after Factory Reset, the alarm went off again without issue
- I have had difficulty with finding many other threads or information; if you are reading this and have experienced this, it would be helpful for information to note that you have had it, and if you have the MJ7 update (or whatever) that too would help
- I might end up doing a bit of 'set an alarm for 5 minutes' testing and see if I can recreate the issue with any reliability
Learning is fun! Happy Thanksgiving and/or Hanukkah everyone!
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My alarm crashed a couple times with my unrooted Note 3. After I rooted, no more problems with Alarm or anything else crashing.
My advice??
Root & load SafeStrap 3.65 HAppY Thanks Giving
Are you using any battery-saving apps? That could create issues like this, especially if the app messes with wakelocks.
I am rooted with the stock MI9, and alarm crashed one morning. Apparently there is a bug, root or no root. All I had to was restarting the phone and it worked after that, but it may crash anytime, I'm afraid.
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Update (12/2):
So, after a Thanksgiving break and more time for more research...
Alarm:
- Since the Factory Reset, I have not had the alarm fail
- From Thursday Morning to Sunday Morning, I did manually / individually set an alarm for each day; unknown if this is a factor
- I do not use any power saving anythings (I don't even use the built in Note power saving mode)
Music:
- Audible (the Amazon Audiobook App) did not display this behavior
- I have not had a chance to try to uninstall until I cannot recreate this
Related to above?
- Once more I set the phone down (this time after using it very liberally for the past few days, and then on an 8 hour drive home yesterday) on a coffee table, not hard or anything, and it would not turn on
- Weirdly enough, although the power button, home key (or whatever the physical key in the middle of the phone is called) would not turn the screen on, but when I pulled the stylus out (on a whim), the screen turned on but was not responsive
- Battery pull resolved this, but I never saw any errors / errored apps / etc
- I am more firmly believing that at least this part is related to a hardware issue and will be going to Verizon tonight for my Manufacturer's Refurb or whatever
Notes:
- I am not using any crazy apps, mostly games and such, all straight from Google Play and none are those obviously suspect apps (like the many strip poker, etc, that are very shady)
- Although I have a decent volume of apps (probably about 40 or so from Google Play, not including the Verizon pre-loaded), I have fantastic battery life still
- I do not have any power saving anything turned on, on the phone, and do not use auto-dim, or anything like that
- Since the factory reset, I have not 'turned off' any apps
- I do have a Sandisk Ultra 32GB microSD card, this could be a factor
- I have a Model: SM-N900V UD (in case the Refurb is a different model)
That's all for this update, will keep updating as I have more information to share. (Still assuming that at least someone is finding this helpful, if not, i'll keep playing quietly in the corner)
More updates -
Alarm:
- The Alarm functioned without issue once more this morning (this time the result of a recurrent alarm, and not a manually set alarm)
- I am beginning to suspect that after the latest OTA, it gummed up something and just required a Factory Reset to un-gum
- The alternative is that the issue with the unresponsive screen is related, but the times I experienced the Alarm issues were accompanied with an error indicating the Alarm app had crashed
Music:
I played around with a few settings and did some app-investigation and learned stuff.
- I DO have 'All Access', though i'm unsure how that would impact the equalizer
- Surround vs. Stereo does not make a difference, issue is still present
- Adapt Sound On does not make a difference
- Adapt Sound 'Turned Off' does not make a difference
- Having the S Pen out does not make a difference
- I went through and wrote out every single app installed on my phone, Google, Samsung, Verizon, Play, etc ... and found a total of 356 apps. The breakdown was: 326 Pre-Loaded/Verizon, and 30 that I installed. I have uninstalled all but about 5 apps (Alarm Clock Pro, Business Calendar, Facebook, Outlook.com, A Better Camera, and Safe In Cloud) and the issue is still present
- I cleared the Cache / Data and 'reverted' Google Music to the pre-installed/factory installed version: v5.1.1107K.753159 and after this was completed, the issue was NOT re-creatable (at least the 'scrubbing' part)
- I re-installed the most current Play version: v5.2.1301L.891271 and the issue was NOT re-creatable (at least the 'scrubbing' part)
- My working theory is ... well, no, I don't really have any idea now; I thought the version could be an issue, but that doesn't appear true. After the Factory Reset, the version would have been reset as well, but the issue returned, so maybe it takes time?
Note:
Due to the other mentioned issue (where I set my phone down and it randomly is unresponsive) I will be receiving my Manufacturer's Refurb on Wednesday-ish (depending on whether or not FedEx tries to deliver when i'm at work or not). The hope is threefold: 1) that this resolves the issue with the random unresponsiveness, 2) this resolves the issue with Google Music, and 3) this resolves the issue with Alarms. This would confirm a hardware related issue as being the source of all three, but if either of the other issues return, this means one of two things: 1) the issues are software related, or 2) the statistically unlikely but possible situation where I received two bad units.
To any readers: I've asked before, but figure i'll ask again.
1) Have any of you experienced the issue with Google Music's equalizer shutting off when scrubbing, in between tracks, or similar?
2) Have any of you experienced the issue with the Alarm not going off, AFTER receiving the latest OTA?
3) If you have experienced either of the above issues, have you performed a Factory Reset after the OTA?
Update: 12/5
Alarm:
- No issues since the Factory Reset still
- Really starting to think the Factory Reset was the key
Music:
- Still all kinds of things going on; tried another reset to 'stock' Google Music but issue came back
- More research seems to find this issue with other 4.3 phones like the Galaxy S4, etc
Notes:
I have now received my Manufacturer's Refurb. I'm about to go through the process of the switchover, but I wanted to note something I found interesting. On the sticker behind the battery, (where the IMEI and all that business is), I noticed one difference between the one I bought in the store and the refurb.
Model is unchanged, so is SKU and FCC ID. Right below 'Made in China' and above 'IMEI' I see a number. On the one I bought was '13.09', but the refurb is '13.10'.
Does anyone else have any other numbers? Is that a revision or something like that? Just wondering if that could mean another run of the hardware or something. Or if it's nothing of course, whatever.
I'll update again once I have more info from the refurb. /crossingfingers
I have the same problem. I have had my Note 3 for a week, and yesterday a third party alarm crashed (Sundroid). Then today, the stock alarm app crashed. Do you use a widget for your alarm? I do. This is stock, unrooted, very few apps. Is there more information I can give to you?
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I have the same problem. I have had my Note 3 for a week, and yesterday a third party alarm crashed (Sundroid). Then today, the stock alarm app crashed. Do you use a widget for your alarm? I do. This is stock, unrooted, very few apps. Is there more information I can give to you?
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Good questions I do not use a widget, and with regard to the Alarm, I think the one big question is: Have you received the MJ7 OTA? (If you go into About Phone and look at Build Number, the last 3 characters tell you if you have the latest OTA). If you do, I would suggest a Factory Reset, which is painful but appeared to resolve the issue for me.
Updates: (12/6)
I have received my Manufacturer's Refurb and have completed the process of switching over (including a Factory Reset after the OTA update). I am still curious what the 13.10 means on the sticker with the IMEI (since my previous phone at 13.09).
Alarm:
- The alarm worked without issue on Day 1 with new device
- All signs right now point to: If you have Alarm issues, and have received the MJ7 OTA, perform a Factory Reset; seems to resolve it
Music:
- On the Manufacturer's Refurb I was able to quickly confirm the presence of the bug
- This is looking more and more like an issue with either 4.3 or some Samsung software issue
- I would suggest submitting a bug report to Google and also posting a review on the Google Music software, see if we can get Google to look into it
Thoughts:
- Is there a Google Music .apk for 4.4? Does it require Root to side-load if so?
- I wonder if anyone with a Nexus 5 (or other device with 4.4) can recreate the issue
I didn't read thru everything here, but I use Alarm Clock Plus (the paid version) and it has never crashed once on me.
I bought my N3 the day they where released and used it everyday on first the stock ROM & now Beans ROM..
I am on the updated mj7 firmware etc.etc.
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I didn't read thru everything here, but I use Alarm Clock Plus (the paid version) and it has never crashed once on me.
I bought my N3 the day they where released and used it everyday on first the stock ROM & now Beans ROM..
I am on the updated mj7 firmware etc.etc.
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How long ago did you root it? I'm assuming you performed a factory reset or a cache/data clear (or similar) as part of the rooting process, so i'm leaning towards that being the reason it has been stable. That said, if my theory holds that it is related to the MJ7 firmware and needing to be cleared out or whatever, that also means that it likely wouldn't be affecting everyone.
Are you able to replicate the issue with equalizer? I hadn't thought to ask if Rooted users experience it too.
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How long ago did you root it? I'm assuming you performed a factory reset or a cache/data clear (or similar) as part of the rooting process, so i'm leaning towards that being the reason it has been stable. That said, if my theory holds that it is related to the MJ7 firmware and needing to be cleared out or whatever, that also means that it likely wouldn't be affecting everyone.
Are you able to replicate the issue with equalizer? I hadn't thought to ask if Rooted users experience it too.
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When the mj7 tar was released, I did an odin flash of that to reset everything in my stock ROM slot.
I still had beans ROM in slot one with safestrap and it didn't affect that.
I have had no music problems whatever, but I use WinAMP with the viper sound mods. I have 800 gigs of music on my 64 gig card that I play thru headphones or hdmi out in my truck.
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When the mj7 tar was released, I did an odin flash of that to reset everything in my stock ROM slot.
I still had beans ROM in slot one with safestrap and it didn't affect that.
I have had no music problems whatever, but I use WinAMP with the viper sound mods. I have 800 gigs of music on my 64 gig card that I play thru headphones or hdmi out in my truck.
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That helps
Unfortunately, i've already heard that a good way to resolve this issue is to install the Viper sound mods, but was hoping to prove whether or not Rooting / Rom-ing it (without Viper) made a difference.
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Music:
- I turned off the equalizer entirely, figuring i'd just deal with it with a more flat sound, and after playing 2-3 songs, the music got really loud; after doing a pause/play, it went back to normal. I verified (before pause/play) that the equalizer was still off
- I am still unsure why my friend couldn't recreate this, as if it is a software issue, any Note 3 should be able to recreate it
Hello,
I have a stock Moto X force for about 20 months.
I've been suffering from lagging lately (sometimes it takes a few seconds when trying to switch between apps or the keyboard becomes unresponsive). I think it got worse after the 7.0 update.
I've downloaded an app for system monitoring and I've noticed that at times of lag the internal disk activity is maxed (Read & Write are 100% (not sure exactly what that means)) (Can't add attachments). But, cpu performance and ram usage seems fine. I assume some app is causing this but have no suspects at the moment. How should I continue my debug from here ?
Thanks
Hello Juvesss,
Exactly the same phone with the same problem since one week ago... If you solved it please explain me, this is a pain!
No OS upgrade was involved in my case, I have Nougat since a long ago.
Cache wipe did not help. Limiting background processes to 3 helped just a little (developer menu).
juvesss said:
Hello,
I have a stock Moto X force for about 20 months.
I've been suffering from lagging lately (sometimes it takes a few seconds when trying to switch between apps or the keyboard becomes unresponsive). I think it got worse after the 7.0 update.
I've downloaded an app for system monitoring and I've noticed that at times of lag the internal disk activity is maxed (Read & Write are 100% (not sure exactly what that means)) (Can't add attachments). But, cpu performance and ram usage seems fine. I assume some app is causing this but have no suspects at the moment. How should I continue my debug from here ?
Thanks
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I've been noticing this problem too.
Not sure what the cause is.
I've factory reset and that seems to fix the problem for awhile, but it seems to come back over time.
Something in the stock rom must be cluttering the phone.
Dear roweboat56,
It happened to me after 12 months of having it, so for my experience it is not so frequent. How often happened it to you? (To understand better how long will I "enjoy" the factory reset solution...)
Move to a custom rom!
I faced that issue too! The last update was buggy maybe..and the moto services and rest apps by moto are eating a lot of ram and using a good amount of I/O
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Try this rom by me (on the latest 7.1.2 build with 5th February 2018 security patch)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/general/lineageos-14-1-build-7-1-2-heating-t3757565
Change battery profile to power save, and see the magic
No heating at all!
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Dear roweboat56,
It happened to me after 12 months of having it, so for my experience it is not so frequent. How often happened it to you? (To understand better how long will I "enjoy" the factory reset solution...)
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Hm I noticed after maybe 2 months of use or so?
Im on Latest Stock FW Android N ,using the device since 8months and not find any lag, in my case it lacks a bit when heated a lot.
I didnt disable any of the Moto Services though.
Try using Greenify if it solves the issue. I will not unlock my phone till it gets 14-15month old and see whether the same happens to me
It is strange... In my case the phenomenon suddenly disappeared some weeks ago, so I think some system update messed it all and later another update solved it. I have the impression it was a system problem and not a particular app, because I tried to uninstall the more suspicious apps without appreciating any change.
Hello,
I own Huawei Nova (CAN0L11C) with EMUI 5 and Android 7. I use it for more than a year now and so far everything looked great.
However, recently I'm very pissed of the productivity of the phone. I am using it mainly not in my country of origin as I work in a different country, but since I'm here I noticed that the phone acts veeery very slow. It becomes a huge issue to open google maps and start navigating with it, and during that time i don't want to speak about multitasking. It's almost impossible to swithc to other apps.
Here are some things that I tried:
I've cleared up disk space.
From time to time i use some apps like NoxCleaner to clean the memory and caches but this fixes the problem temporarily
I did uninstalled apps that i dont use
Nothing helps much. I would appreciate any suggestions to make that phone great again!
you have to factory reset your phone ( 1st you have to save your personal files on Sdcard )
Settings -------> Advanced setting ------> Backup & Reset -------> Factory Data Reset ------> Reset Phone
yeah im kinda trying to avoid that, but thanks for the suggestion. this will be my last option if nothing else works.
Same problem there. Factory reset already done but nothing changes... Some news on the subject ?
dada75000 said:
Same problem there. Factory reset already done but nothing changes... Some news on the subject ?
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How's your RAM usage? Don't use anti viruses and task killers. They're useless on Android.
You can try LineageOS 14.
Thanks for sure.
I have at least 1Go Ram free. Lags appears on maps, snapchat and screen freeze...
Same problem exists
Same problem happening, any solution for this issue?
I have been experiencing the same slow speeds & lag. The 1st 6 months I was so impressed with the performance of this phone, even comparing it to the performance of the flagships. It was really that good. But, come 8 months down the line, & I'm battling with lag, poor multitasking & screen freezing. Im trying to avoid factory resetting & on top of all this I don't have access to my trusted tools as I can't unlock the bootloader to gain root.
Can somebody look into this please & provide some feedback. I doubt its the processor or hardware causing these issues as the Snapdragon 625 is one of the best in its class & other phones using it aren't experiencing the same problems. I have a feeling its got something to do with the Android system updates of recent. The Google security patches updates. I noticed the speed issues after each update was installed.
FINALLY got to the bottom of my Huawei NOVA's performance issues!!!
Firstly, just want to say, Google & Huawei you are both a bunch of Monkeys !!!
I've owned my fone for two years now, and the latter year the device was just a piece of Sh1t to use, anything like Google Maps, or Assist or 'OK Google' was ridiculous to try and use, ..and everything else was running at like a 3rd performance of what the phone was supposed to be acting like. (hanging & freezing whenever you needed it to do something)
**What really cheesed me off is the amount of times this phone went back to Huawei under Warranty and they didn't even both running a performance test with all their technical know how to identify which process/application was the culprit - & o yes, it was a specific process (Or update rather as the last guy on this Thread assumed it was).
No Android apps either from the play store - like Process identifier apps etc would show any bottleneck in either RAM or CPU when the go slow or hanging was occurring, ..its like it couldn't detect the "layer" of which the issue was occurring on.
So Huawei just kept Factory resetting my phone and sending it back,.then as soon as I load my apps and within a week its all balls again. (And Im wondering if its one of my apps doing it)
To the point: IT IS THE **** GOOGLE APP **** itself, ..or at least the updates that are applied after your fone has completed its factory reset (If you did this) and the next updates come down automatically via Google Play store. (This isn't Google Assist or the Android OS itself,..the listing in the installed apps is just called 'Google' or 'Google LLC' (Im a new user so cant post any images or links yet untill after 10 basic posts first).
Grrr! ..this has been soo frustrating to find this out, ..so I just uninstalled updates for this 'Google App' so its back to the default original the phone came with, & now my phone is absolutely flying again - whilst I still have it loaded with all my apps etc.
So who's to blame here, ..Google for pushing updates which kill the phone OR Huawei should've identified this and responded with either a fix OR that the middle weight Nova can't handle the latest 'Google App' updates.
For the record - I also managed to get my Nova updated to Android Nougat (Which wasn't officially released on Nova UK phones, .. I got the correct firmware/software update etc,... but also since it went from Marshmallow to Nougat it also was crippling slow and therefore I got it reverted back to Android 6 Marshmallow (Now Im wondering if again it was simply that the latest Google App Updates had been applied to Nougat and messed the phone ?? - anyway ..ill keep it on Android 6 for now,..just happy that its responsive again and flying.
I also have to manually press the Microphone on the screen now whenever I want to speak to 'OK Google' ..its not automatic anymore - or rather constantly listening out for me to say 'OK Google' (So this must be applicable to the latest Google App update - but then this Nova just cant handle being on listen the whole time. ... But anyway if that's the price to pay for excellent performance now, ..then I dont mind at all. stuff automatic listening for me to say 'OK Google' Ill control it manually instead.
Its been so long that I forgot how a phone should be, ..its insane how fast my phone is now since uninstalling the frikken Google App)
Dont let this Google App update from your phones original - Disable Android Auto Updates
Hope this Helps you guys. (Actually it will blimming well help)
Peace
sirch777 said:
Grrr! ..this has been soo frustrating to find this out, ..so I just uninstalled updates for this 'Google App' so its back to the default original the phone came with, & now my phone is absolutely flying again - whilst I still have it loaded with all my apps etc.
Peace
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THANK YOU! <3 I have uninstalled the Google App leaving untouched rest of the google services like "google apps services" or "maps" etc. Now my phone is working as it should be!
Hi guys. Any update on your overall speed?
I factory reset the phone and it helped a bit for a while. Then I disabled the Google App and it worked like a charm... for a while. Now it's incredibly laggy again.
It's really frustrating to use. I would love to install a custom ROM, alas I don't have the bootloader unlock codes