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I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?
hey there is an app called OTA root keeper, you can install it and your phone will be able to keep the root.
Btw you are getting the ota update even though you are rooted so its time for me to rooted my device as well. what tool kit you used to root the device and could you give me some info.
thanks
cesar521 said:
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?
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If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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I didn't install cwm, I stayed with stock recovery, I now realized I did loose my root but I still have the superSU app installed? what are some ways of deleting the app? Would I have to root the phone again then delete it that way? or other ways?
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If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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Yep, that was a pleasant surprise.
lost root too
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
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hankdu said:
Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
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what toolkit did you use
stephan moisan said:
what toolkit did you use
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I followed the guide here for rooting my phone
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=224861
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stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
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When you reroot just delete the extra apps..
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stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
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Just reroot with the toolkit, you'll be fine. And you don't have to delete the super su app. You will only have one su app after you reroot .
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Found another toolkit http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
this is cool. just rooted yesterday and receive system update notification today. thanks for info
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If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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Is there a stock ROM that doesn't take away rooting? Just got this phone yesterday from craigslist and it came rooted. Nice but want to also try out stock....
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In the Oppo Forum there is a Version from the Beta531 in the Third Party Area that is Rooted!
Threadname is [BetaFirmware]X909EN-beta_130531_Deodexed/Rooted
That one is rooted, the normal stock versions must root again after flashing!
KornY10 said:
In the Oppo Forum there is a Version from the Beta531 in the Third Party Area that is Rooted!
Threadname is [BetaFirmware]X909EN-beta_130531_Deodexed/Rooted
That one is rooted, the normal stock versions must root again after flashing!
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So not here in the xda?
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Oh sorry, looked around and found this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305806
Like the title says, is there any reason not to root my new 6p?
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Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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funnel71 said:
Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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Android Pay works with system-less root.
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That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
jpeg42 said:
I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
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I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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funnel71 said:
I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
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Some apps *cought* Snapchat *cough* don't work even with the root hiding xposed module. For some reason, I could still use snapchat even with root, but no xposed. On my Note 4, I couldn't use snapchat unless the thing is completely stock.
funnel71 said:
That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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Once you've installed system-less root you have to remove xbin_bin folder in /su/bin if you forgot to do it when installing system-less. You also have to change the permissions of the /su/bin folder to 0751 from 0755. You can change the permissions through terminal on the phone, or with adb on the computer; you can also change the permissions with a file manager such as Root Explorer. I suggest you reboot the phone just as a precaution after making the changes.
Once you've done that you can check with one of the SafetyNet checking apps from the Play Store.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
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Xposed automatically breaks AP...no way around that.
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
NCguy said:
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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This. Plus updating via fastboot really isnt very difficult at all. A little time consuming but that's it.
slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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The OP said root not ROM.
NCguy said:
The OP said root not ROM.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that if you don't like to root because it's more difficult to get updates, you may want to try a custom ROM, then you can have the benefits of root and easy updates.
Of course you'll still have the same cat and mouse game with Google in regards to Android Pay, so if you find yourself shopping without your wallet allot, you might just wanna forget the whole thing...
Just purchased a brand new Mate 9 from Best Buy in the USA. First Huawei device.
Held the Mate 9, Galaxy 8 and Galaxy 8+ in my hands and didn't like the feel of the Galaxy 8 handsets.
Before I even switch it on, I wanted to ask the regulars here what they suggest are the first things to do beforehand as I want to root it and install TWRP and Magisk.
After reading in the Mate 9 forum there are different posts about rooting, patching and other things (e.g. people bricking their device) in regards to tweaking this device, so I wanted to know for sure what the correct procedure is to root, install TWRP and Magisk.
I have watched the two videos shown here for tips so anything else that is helpful would be appreciated.
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Governa said:
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Gotta agree with this. I've had mine for almost two months and it's so good I've never felt the need to root. But I'd say do lots of reading around first and get a feel for the stock is in the mean time.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I don't want to set up the phone and then find I have to do a factory-reset when I can get it all done in one go.
I really hate all the ads (using AdAway on current Nexus 6) and like the ability to restrict apps usage e.g. stop location or mobile identification, so use LBE, thus the reason wanting to root and install TWRP. Having image backups has been amazingly helpful over the years.
and now that Magisk is doing an amazing job, I can have all the rooted tweaks and still have Android Pay working.
Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
5[Strogino] said:
Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
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Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
IconBoy said:
Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
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No.
I told that if you want to customize system (Some functions in TB and Adaway do it), so you must have root and additionally turn dm-verity off.
Just root = simple functional.
P.s. One of Adaway can work without root
I have an ad blocker and I'm not rooted.
Search xda for netpatch firewall. Working for me here.
Only ads it doesn't block for me is YouTube but I can live with that
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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I don't think Magisk works on the Mate 9.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/install-magisk-huawei-mate-9-t3540310
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
IconBoy said:
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
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Systemless root works fine but you have to flash the stock recovery each time you want to OTA.
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Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
IconBoy said:
Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
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Yeah, if you root you won't be able to use Android Pay or anything that calls SafetyNet. Actually, it won't work either if you unlock bootloader.
I'll chime in here too
I've rooted and modded every phone I have had in my life, (more than 20 years) and this is the first phone I have had NO DESIRE at all to root..
Like the others here have said, this phone is fantastic stock, and I cant see ever wanting to root it
Another one to add. This is the first android phone i have no desire to root. Love it as it is. Really great.
are we all getting old that's why we don't wanna root anymore for cheats/sixaxis, etc...? this is also my first android phone (mate 9 pro) that i didn't root.
well, yeah, we are all getting old, but I dont think thats why we dont want to root this thing; I think that it already does most of the things as stock that we usually root a phone to get..
Mate 9 pro here too, and its truly an awesum phone...too bad its not "officially" sold in the USA, as it would be super popular..
Tuffcheez said:
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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Same here and Happy....
+ root M9 is really challenging depending on your firmware
So, I've had this phone since shortly after launch. I came from a pixel 2 XL after one of my middle school students broke it. I pretty regularly ran custom roms or just a couple modules and root apps here and there. I know you lose fingerprint sensor by installing custom roms, just curious as to what everyone else did? I assume the procedures are all still the same as the pixel 2.
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I unlocked yesterday, root and installed a kernel and run OOS Stock Rom. You should do that, if you don't want to loose the FP. Probably I would be trying some ROMs, but not now. I come from a OP3 with Custom ROM.
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So, I've had this phone since shortly after launch. I came from a pixel 2 XL after one of my middle school students broke it. I pretty regularly ran custom roms or just a couple modules and root apps here and there. I know you lose fingerprint sensor by installing custom roms, just curious as to what everyone else did? I assume the procedures are all still the same as the pixel 2.
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There's 2 roms we have here that have the fingerprint sensor working, because they're actually Magisk modules that run on top of OOS. Revovation Ice (Only works with stable OOS) and XXX No Limits (works with stable and beta, you can find this one in the OnePlus 6 forum). I'm using Renovation Ice right now, I love it!
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There's 2 roms we have here that have the fingerprint sensor working, because they're actually Magisk modules that run on top of OOS. Revovation Ice (Only works with stable OOS) and XXX No Limits (works with stable and beta, you can find this one in the OnePlus 6 forum). I'm using Renovation Ice right now, I love it!
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Sweet. I actually tried Friday 2 and still have it and it did not go well. Could not figure out what gapps to download, seems like everyone I picked was the wrong one. Had to learn how to put this phone back to stock and was freaking out. Nandroid backup didn't work. Every time I hit reboot system it would put me right back to the same spot, except it was TWRP encrypted, wouldn't reboot. Ended up having to figure out how to get it back to stock and haven't tried it again yet.
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kickenwing13 said:
Sweet. I actually tried Friday 2 and still have it and it did not go well. Could not figure out what gapps to download, seems like everyone I picked was the wrong one. Had to learn how to put this phone back to stock and was freaking out. Nandroid backup didn't work. Every time I hit reboot system it would put me right back to the same spot, except it was TWRP encrypted, wouldn't reboot. Ended up having to figure out how to get it back to stock and haven't tried it again yet.
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Why are you trying to install Gapps? The stock OOS already has them. Renovate Ice runs on top of the stock ROM. Back to Stock is as simple as flashing the latest ROM even with a factory reset(complete wipe). Set up as normal after flashing, then flash Twrp. Install Magisk if you want Root then Renovate Ice. There are guides on how to do all of this.
Havoc rom required then according to the directions. That's the too I tried Friday night. It was a rough night.
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kickenwing13 said:
Havoc rom required then according to the directions. That's the too I tried Friday night. It was a rough night.
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Oh ok if you are installing non-OOS ROMs yes.
schmeggy929 said:
Oh ok if you are installing non-OOS ROMs yes.
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You guys have me all about the stock ROM though. Glad that is a thing. Hopefully the installation process goes more smoothly
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kickenwing13 said:
You guys have me all about the stock ROM though. Glad that is a thing. Hopefully the installation process goes more smoothly
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Phone corrupt? Simple fix actually. Download the MSM Download Tool, it's here on XDA in the Guides section for some reason. There's the T-Mobile version of the tool if you bought your device from T-Mobile, and the global version of the tool (two separate threads on here) that will reflash the device if you bought from OnePlus directly. Shoot me a message if you need some help, I don't mind at all! [emoji1]
EDIT: Note that this tool formats your device COMPLETELY. You'll lose all your pics and files, but it cleanly installs OOS for you and relocks your bootloader as well.
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Phone corrupt? Simple fix actually. Download the MSM Download Tool, it's here on XDA in the Guides section for some reason. There's the T-Mobile version of the tool if you bought your device from T-Mobile, and the global version of the tool (two separate threads on here) that will reflash the device if you bought from OnePlus directly. Shoot me a message if you need some help, I don't mind at all! [emoji1]
EDIT: Note that this tool formats your device COMPLETELY. You'll lose all your pics and files, but it cleanly installs OOS for you and relocks your bootloader as well.
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I downloaded the tool, and have some experience using them but ended up doing the fastboot method . Are they the same thing except one is just via toolkit ?
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kickenwing13 said:
I downloaded the tool, and have some experience using them but ended up doing the fastboot method . Are they the same thing except one is just via toolkit ?
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Well, basically the MSM tool doesn't go through your bootloader. This device has a Qualcomm download mode built in that's an even lower level mode than the bootloader. The MSM tool can restore your device even if it's TOAST (for example, corrupted bootloader or just can't boot to it.). It's easier that fastboot as well! It's a perk of having a OnePlus for sure! [emoji106]