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3D GPU Processor - Very Low performance

Hi,
I did a Antutu test today on my Zuk Z1 running latest Cyanogen OS 12.1, all results are pretty impressive, but the 3d graphics performance is really low, it's worst than mine LG G2 on Snapdragon 800, as well the Lenovo K3 Note have much better result than the Zuk Z1 even if it has slower hardware.
Are you experiencing the same issue? Do you know how to fix it?
How are your Antutu results for 3D performance? Mine 1347 and 2072, really low. Check screenshots.
Thanks for the answers.

me too.But I think it's a bug of Antutu v6. DO NOT REMIND IT.

It's reallife performance that counts and 3d is great

redmi note 3 pro of MI note

Hi all, I'm considering buying redmi note 3 pro(3gb/32gb) or MI note bamboo(3gb/16gb) for usd 40 less. I used my phone mostly for work and Web browsing, anyone with both devices please give your opinions. Thanks.

teddymild said:
Hi all, I'm considering buying redmi note 3 pro(3gb/32gb) or MI note bamboo(3gb/16gb) for usd 40 less. I used my phone mostly for work and Web browsing, anyone with both devices please give your opinions. Thanks.
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redmi note 3 pro - it's newer, better hardware, snapdragon 650 (6 cores, gpu adreno 510 @ 600mhz, 64bit, better mobile support, 16mp camera, bigger battery - 4000 mah)
though don't get me wrong the snapdragon 801 that's in the MI note bamboo is nice but that cpu pretty outdated now, it's only 32bit, 4 cores, gpu adreno 330 @ 400mhz - and that cpu is a power hog, so I doubt a 3000mah battery would last long with that processor, it's known to run hot and be power hungry. -
I also have a device with the snapdragon 800, I can say the snapdragon 650 in the rn3p gives a much smoother web-browsing experience.
Snapdragon 801
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
Snapdragon 650
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650

Thank you for your elaborate answer, really appreciated.

Honor 5C vs Xiaomi Redmi Note 3

How can u compare between the Honor 5C vs Redmi Note 3? Basically the much talk about is the processors of both the devices. So, how is Kirin 650 compared with Snapdragon 650? Though in Antutu benchmark Kirin 650 loses badly to Snapdragon 650. So the point is how both the devices perform in day to day life.

Shubho20 said:
How can u compare between the Honor 5C vs Redmi Note 3? Basically the much talk about is the processors of both the devices. So, how is Kirin 650 compared with Snapdragon 650? Though in Antutu benchmark Kirin 650 loses badly to Snapdragon 650. So the point is how both the devices perform in day to day life.
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go for redmi, better 3rd party rom support, multiple youtube reviews on the redmi explaining the benefits

Redmi Note 3 hands down.

Development wise redmi note 3 is best. How about performace? Btw i own a honor 5c nd quite happy with it but not with the development.

Shubho20 said:
Development wise redmi note 3 is best. How about performace? Btw i own a honor 5c nd quite happy with it but not with the development.
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Performance varies on many levels. For example, phone X running with SDxxx processor in AOSP can perform better than phone Y with the same processor in EMUI.

i would still go with note 3 if the performance is slightly worse, as it supports lots of roms. and games performance is better on snapdragons

Underclocked Snapdragon 660 or Overclocked Snapdragon 636 on Realme 2 Pro?

It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.

msfbeast said:
It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.
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Do not fully trust the information provided in 3rd party apps or other websites. Please refer official websites of each particular phone to get the TRUE and CORRECT information about the processors used in them and the clock speeds that they are set to.
The SD660 used in Realme 2 Pro has a ( Original ) clock speed of 2.2 Ghz when Qualcomm makes that chip but the OEM ( Phone Manufacturer ) can tweak and change the clock speeds of the chip as per their strategy when using it in any phone.
For Realme 2 Pro the manufacturer Realme Mobiles has decided to clock the SD660 processor at 2 Ghz. That can be for various reasons depending on Software Optimizations, Battery Optimizations, Or maybe Just for No Reason :silly:
The point is, for an average user or for any user for that matter, it does not matter much. Plus there is a dedicated Artificial Intelligence Engine ( AIE ) which is not present in SD636.
Nowadays the term "Artificial Intelligence" is so wrongly used by every phone manufacturer to promote and sell their new phones to people who do not have any idea about AI in a smartphone. Fact is, there are only FEW countable chips in this world who ACTUALLY have a dedicated AI Engine in them and SD660 which is used in Realme 2 Pro has that Real AI in it.
So....

fully working poco f1 with all bootloader unlocking this that everything

For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.

nitish159 said:
For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.
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Right. GPU is a very important aspect in todays world where we have high end graphics games and apps. And even slight upgrade in GPU makes a notable difference :good:

Hi,
Then Whats the idea about NPU chip in coming new chipset series? Are they both same or is there any big difference?
Thanks!

What is comparable to Mi 9T specwise?

Hi all,
At the moment I have Xiaomi mi A2, and I am considering to get the Mi 9T as my new phone.
It would be in my opinion a better value upgrade as I would get NFC, AMOLED screen and all screen experience with the pop out camera.
However I was wondering what is comparable to the Mi 9T Specwise) as I mentioned NFC and AMOLED are a must and a bit smaller size than mi A2.
Pop out camera is not essential but would rather have that than the punch hole( like SG S10 or S10e)
Thanks in advance for comments and/or suggestions

Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.

CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.

CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all ?

Allan_Hun said:
I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all
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I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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Ellunphant said:
Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.

CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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Allan_Hun said:
CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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True. I don't game that much on my phone either, but sometimes I do. Years of being a pc gamer have spoiled me into not accepting anything fewer than 60 fps. Mind you, my Poco F1 was heavily modified. I even deleted the thermal files in vendor/etc so the phone would never throttle, no matter how hot it got. I really hoped there would be not much of a difference between the Adreno 630 and the 618. But there is. More than benchmarks it's the real-life usage and performance in games and apps. I play PUBG in the 9t with the exact same graphic settings from my Poco F1, and, while it sure as heck doesn't heat up as much and doesn't drain the battery as quickly, the Adreno 618 is almost always at 99% usage and maximum mhz (I use DevCheck app to check GPU usage during gaming). Sometimes it dips below 50 fps. What's more, whenever a grenade explodes nearby or you are inside a smoke the game lags as hell. This would never happen on my Poco F1. What's more, I used to brag to my friends about the SD 845 performance by maxing out all the settings in the GFX tool and showing them those graphics. The Poco F1 could sustain 45 to 60 fps with those settings. But my phone would get so stupidly hot that I couldn't play like that for more than 3 minutes (with the thermal files disabled, of course). I tried the same with this phone and well... let's just say that it's not very playable.
Anyhow, you sure are right about the tradeoff between efficiency and raw performance. This is why I have a 9T today.
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CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.
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I was comparing Mi 9T vs Mi A2 and comparing the size looks on tjhe paper that Mi 9T seems to be a tad bit smaller 156.7 x 74.3 x 8.8 mm (6.17 x 2.93 x 0.35 in) vs Mi A2 that I have and it's 158.7 x 75.4 x 7.3 mm.
I know it may not be that different in size and you are right that S10 or S10e are smaller especially S10e, even the normal Note 10 is smaller side by side as I compared those 3 samsung models side by side with my Mi A2, and while the camera setup is brilliant on all 3 the punch hole bugs me someway visually as it is visible on screen(maybe I am weird:cyclops and I am willing to risk that with Mi 9T and get a Gcam on it to get better (in some situations pictures) and It wont burn my pocket as Samsung would (buying direct in a shop not trough provider)

I think the Mi 9T Pro is the best value for money with around $100 over the Mi 9T. The Pro has SD855, but you wouldn't notice the difference in normal use, maybe just in gaming.