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LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
Benchmarks doesn't bother me. The G3 didn't do to we'll either, and mine is definitely fast enough and are more or less lag free since the lollipop update. Still love the G3 so I'll think I pass this year. But I definitely like the looks of the G4 and I'm really excited to see how much better the screen is and how well the camera will perform in manual mode [emoji106] [emoji2]
Benchmarks won't show the really benefits. The device is really smooth and can open apps as fast as any other flagship. I mean the camera app can open in 0.6 secs and take a phot at the same time. If you do not care about superficial numbers the device won't disappoint as a daily driver.
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The scores aren't surprising. The G4 will have only 2 A57s compared to the S6, and the GPU is noticeably different from the 810. There's also LDDR3 in the G4 while the S6 uses LDDR4 & a very fast eMMc chip.
In normal usage I imagine most won't notice the core count. Because of the G4's high price I hope someone can compare its speed side by side with a zenfone 2 or even another Snapdragon 615/800/805/etc.
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Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Not good?
I read "First impressions are good, the Korean manufacturer seems to have made the right choices, abandoning the Snapdragon 810 and developing its own photo sensor."
I don't sweet these at all. I want to use it in my hand and see myself as that is more real than anything.
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
jeky82 said:
Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
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That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
i9100g user said:
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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You just echoed my mind. If I see the G4 that way [compared to G3] the benchmark stuffs should not be much of a headache/nightmare.
onlinejobwork said:
Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
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Until we have a true lens zoom phone (kind of physically hard to do), I am not a big fan of using phones for main photos. Nothing cracks me up more though than the media or some posters talking about photography and then actually review the digital zoom on phones, which is literally just digital zooming of the original focal point. No different than taking the picture and later post zooming the pictures.
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i9100g user said:
That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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The gpu in the 801 choked with 1440p and one of the reasons for the heat, judder and battery life impact. The 808's gpu can handle 1440p and is within the mean of it's threshold of performance, but the 801 was at the very top of it's ceiling for 1440p- hence the issues. Well, that and the gosh awful lcd technology used for the the display on the G3. LG took a semi efficient 1080p design and shrunk it to a very inefficient 1440p on the G3.
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Jonfensu said:
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
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What else could they do besides wait about six more months? Apple and Samsung have secured most other chipset fab production and the only other option is the second tier chips that are in the cheaper devices. The road map was to use the 810, but the poor thermals with the 810 resulted in going with the 808 (810 light). The other option was go with the 805, but spec chasing will not allow that. The 808 was a compromise, but LG is hoping the design and camera offsets this for the spec and media hounds.
Qualcomm riding shotgun at the LG press event was very telling of the heat the chipset maker is in right now.
Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Looks better because the HTC one M9 is missing.
BillyxAllen said:
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
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Was it just me or did the G4 burn through the benchmark faster than any of the other phones even though it started last? What's with that? Is it a difference in user (interface) difference? Does this translate to a better performing phone overall that cannot be quantified with a benchmark?
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I noticed that and was wondering the same thing tbh
Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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In theory it should do.... I suppose there is a kernel in the m9 thread for disabling the cores....
Thanks! . I'll look into it. I have a G Flex 2 though v.v
Hi,
I did a Antutu test today on my Zuk Z1 running latest Cyanogen OS 12.1, all results are pretty impressive, but the 3d graphics performance is really low, it's worst than mine LG G2 on Snapdragon 800, as well the Lenovo K3 Note have much better result than the Zuk Z1 even if it has slower hardware.
Are you experiencing the same issue? Do you know how to fix it?
How are your Antutu results for 3D performance? Mine 1347 and 2072, really low. Check screenshots.
Thanks for the answers.
me too.But I think it's a bug of Antutu v6. DO NOT REMIND IT.
It's reallife performance that counts and 3d is great
No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.
AMR-720 said:
No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.
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Do a benchmark test and see which 1 performs better.
If you use j2 for few days you will realize how much you miss note4 2k screen and s.pen features.
i sold my note 5 and bought note 4 cuz in.my opinion note 4 still better and worth with all the features that it has.
I agree some high graphics games lags and frame drops but i am not a gamer so most important for me is removable battery/ir blaster/microsd card 128gb+32 internal=160gb storage/1440p screen/and 16mp camera that still kick ass.
And most importantly here in xda dozens of roms available for note 4.
AMR-720 said:
No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.
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Honestly, you're are right
mine was too.
Recently relesed Gangstar New Orleans runs fine on my friend's j2 but lags on my note 4 a lot. Don't know whats the reason
Hi. I'm on the hunt for my a new phone to replace my ageing Galaxy S5 Neo. I chose these two phones as they are within my budget and on the same price range.
Am i correct in saying the Helio P20 is better than the Snapdragon 625 in terms of battery life and a more "balanced" performance?
Does the speakers on the XA1 be sufficient enough on a London bus or a partly crowded high street?
Is it true the XA1's camera came from or derived from the older Z5 but with slightly better optics & optimization?
And would you guys (still) think Sony is better in terms of pushing updates especially monthly security updates, bug fixes, etc.?
Would love to hear your thoughts & advice please.
For screen and battery g5+. Camera overall and build sony.. i personally like the g5+, + it has a fp scanner and fhd screen and it shows the difference but processing whise Sony's p20 is better.. games are better on g5 bcz of the adreno. And the g5 supports 5ghz wifi but he sony has the better build.. i'm in the same dilemma and i think I'll opt for the g5 (non+) bcz of fp scanner and fhd . Daily use is the same in terms of processing and the camera well.. i can do with 13. And the 12 on the 5+is on par with sony. Updates are better on moto and more often and sooner. Speakers ar low on both but still enough. Hope it helps.
Are you certain Moto has faster updates? Ever since Lenovo took over the updates have become very slow & scarce. And that's the truth. Ask anyone and they will tell you.
I'm also concerned with the G5 Plus not having USB Type-C, No waterproofing, No any form of image stabilisation on camera and no Cat-6 4G LTE speeds. Obviously the first three maybe because of money-saving exercise or perhaps backward thinking as well?
Hi guys,
Apologies if this is the wrong thread but wasn't sure where to post this.
Quick question....
I currently have the s10e. Is it worth upgrading to the note 10, s20 or s20+?
Main things for me are battery life, portability and performance, not bothered about the camera as I hardly ever use it.
Thanks
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blackrome0 said:
Hi guys,
Apologies if this is the wrong thread but wasn't sure where to post this.
Quick question....
I currently have the s10e. Is it worth upgrading to the note 10, s20 or s20+?
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Just don't get the exynos version.. and get s20>note10
I have the snapdragon s20plus U1
It is fantastic all around.
Only "issue" is face id is not reliable enough and fingerprint is not as good as the 7 pro I came from but works well after you get the muscle memory down.
I had the s10e and hell yes s20 would be nice upgrade imo. 120hz is very nice.
I'd recommend the plus but the regular s20 wouldn't be as big a jump in size for you as the plus would be.
Attached the trade in value on Samsung site.
I got 600 for a pixel 4 I paid 400 for.
Cheers
jasons1004 said:
Just don't get the exynos version.. and get s20>note10
I have the snapdragon s20plus U1
It is fantastic all around.
Only "issue" is face id is not reliable enough and fingerprint is not as good as the 7 pro I came from but works well after you get the muscle memory down.
I had the s10e and hell yes s20 would be nice upgrade imo. 120hz is very nice.
I'd recommend the plus but the regular s20 wouldn't be as big a jump in size for you as the plus would be.
Attached the trade in value on Samsung site.
I got 600 for a pixel 4 I paid 400 for.
Cheers
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Thanks for the reply Jason
The problem is that I'm in UK (London) so here we only have the exynos version. I'd have to import the Snapdragon version from a reputable website seller which I'll need to do research on
I kinda figured the s20 plus would be the sensible choice, but I keep thinking is the extra 500mah on the s20 plus worth the extra £100 from the regular s20
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I also switched from the S10e. Yes, it's bigger but after a few days you'll get used to it. I got the exynos version because I live in Romania, but I do not recommend. It gets pretty hot and the games play better on s10e(real racing 3). Battery life it's better with 120hz display. Tomorrow I'll get the snapdragon and for a few days I will have them both. I opened a thread in "discussion" and I'll post the differences.
Maybe pixel 4xl for you then (do not get regular P4) or maybe a oneplus? I would not get the exy s20 for sure.
I mean....the s10e still good too.
If you're coming from an S10E SD855 version then it wont be worth it unless they make some improvements or if the issues currently bogging people down is software related and will be fixed eventually on the Exynos 990 versions. The SD865 versions of the S20 is pretty much solid from battery life to not heating up as much = in turn not thermal throttling which leads to low fps in games and maybe some hitching/chugging when browsing regularly. If its software related and they can make improvements on it then it wouldn't be so bad.
Portability and Battery sizes are as follows:
s10e
5.8"
3100mAh
note10
6.3"
3500mAh
s20
6.2"
4000mAh
s20+
6.7"
4500mAh
If you don't game, get the Exynos, no issues
If you are still on the fence, here are some things to consider:
1. S20 and S10e are the same width, but S20 is 7% taller (5.97 mm vs 5.60 mm) so you'll have to stretch a little more to reach S20 notification panel
2. S20 display is 7% larger (6.2" vs 5.8")
3. S20 screen pixel density is 29% higher (566 ppi vs 438 ppi)
4. Screen-to-body ratio. S20 88.6% vs S10e 83.4%. That doesn't sound like much difference, but you see the difference when placed side-by-side
5. S20 battery is 29% larger (4000 mAh vs 3100 mAh)
6. S20 has twice as much RAM (12 GB vs 6 GB)
7. S20 camera is better
8. S20 will be supported longer
9. S10e fingerprint reader is better
10. S10e has 3.5 mm audio jack
sublimaze said:
If you are still on the fence, here are some things to consider:
1. S20 and S10e are the same width, but S20 is 7% taller (5.97 mm vs 5.60 mm) so you'll have to stretch a little more to reach S20 notification panel
2. S20 display is 7% larger (6.2" vs 5.8")
3. S20 screen pixel density is 29% higher (566 ppi vs 438 ppi)
4. Screen-to-body ratio. S20 88.6% vs S10e 83.4%. That doesn't sound like much difference, but you see the difference when placed side-by-side
5. S20 battery is 29% larger (4000 mAh vs 3100 mAh)
6. S20 has twice as much RAM (12 GB vs 6 GB)
7. S20 camera is better
8. S20 will be supported longer
9. S10e fingerprint reader is better
10. S10e has 3.5 mm audio jack
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You're right I am still on the fence, but looking at the s20+ now because of the bigger battery
I know it'll be a wider which I'll have to deal with, the tallness doesn't bother me though as I can just swipe down anywhere on the screen to bring down notifications (Nova)
Battery lasting all day is an absolute must
Not bothered about the camera, never really take any pictures of anything
Performance is a big thing, needs to be snappy like this s10e
Will for sure miss the headphone Jack. I was actually just now looking at the LG V60, looks like a sick device especially with that day and a half battery life, but is just waaaay to big
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blackrome0 said:
You're right I am still on the fence, but looking at the s20+ now because of the bigger battery
I know it'll be a wider which I'll have to deal with, the tallness doesn't bother me though as I can just swipe down anywhere on the screen to bring down notifications (Nova)
Battery lasting all day is an absolute must
Not bothered about the camera, never really take any pictures of anything
Performance is a big thing, needs to be snappy like this s10e
Will for sure miss the headphone Jack. I was actually just now looking at the LG V60, looks like a sick device especially with that day and a half battery life, but is just waaaay to big
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There isn't much difference in size between S10e and S20. However, you *will* feel the difference in size between S10e and S20+. The S20+ is noticeably taller and a little wider.
The S20 and S20+ have the same basic specifications. With the S20+ you are essentially paying $200 more for 8% larger display, 13% larger battery, mmWave 5G, and a time-of-flight sensor. Other than that, they are the same phone.
I almost bought a S20, but ended up getting the S20+ primarily for the larger battery. I had a Note 10, and the S20+ battery is noticeably better. It has never dropped below 20% before bedtime.
I also use Nova Launcher, and I set all developer option animations to 0.3x, and Nova look & feel and scroll speed animations to "Faster than light", and the S20+ flies. Multitasking is silky-smooth with 12 GB RAM, no hiccups for freezes whatsoever. I don't play a lot of games, but the games I do have are loaded quickly and I have not noticed any stuttering.
I thought I'd miss the headphone jack with my Note 10, but I got Galaxy Buds and they sound pretty good. I have some USB adapters for my wired buds, but I rarely use them. The Galaxy Buds aren't audiophile-level quality, so if you are a hardcore audiophile, then you probably want to stick with a phone with a 3.5 mm port.
As I mentioned before, the under display fingerprint reader of the S20 is really disappointing. The S20+ scanner reads my FP about 70% of the time. I've rescanned my finger many times, and I also setup the same finger as a "secondary finger", and it still works only 70% of the time. My Note 10 had the same FP reader, and it sucked too. I started using face recognition and PIN on my Note 10, and I do the same on my S20+.
Other than the crappy FP reader and no 3.5 mm port, the S20+ is pretty much flawless imo. I don't miss my Note 10 at all (I rarely used the Spen). I am sure you will enjoy a S20 or S20+. But whether it is worth $1000/1200 (minus whatever you get for your S10e) is up to you.