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[Q] Thinking of Installing a Rom..Advice Welcomed!

So I've been reading threads for different roms and I think I might want to try one out. I'm leaning towards Malladus because it seems to have everything I want, but I'd like to know more about camera performance compared to stock. Also, he lists a lot of improvements...can anyone verify those? Does he mean improvements from stock or from earlier versions of his rom?
I'm also considering that maybe I should just stick with stock...so here's what I am interested in:
Hacked Hotspotting
Stability (No reboots)
Snappier / better looking UI
Improved GPS
Retain wireless storage
Retain camera quality / performance (most important)
I hate the proximity sensor
Lastly, can I undo it to retain my warranty?
Thanks!

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kspanks04 said:
So I've been reading threads for different roms and I think I might want to try one out. I'm leaning towards Malladus because it seems to have everything I want, but I'd like to know more about camera performance compared to stock. Also, he lists a lot of improvements...can anyone verify those? Does he mean improvements from stock or from earlier versions of his rom?
I'm also considering that maybe I should just stick with stock...so here's what I am interested in:
Hacked Hotspotting
Stability (No reboots)
Snappier / better looking UI
Improved GPS
Retain wireless storage
Retain camera quality / performance (most important)
I hate the proximity sensor
Lastly, can I undo it to retain my warranty?
Thanks!
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dont do it original rom 4.2.2 is best

GalaxySIIII said:
dont do it original rom 4.2.2 is best
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I have the AT&T version and although I like the stock rom, there's no way it's the best. It randomly drains my battery and data. (and yes I have everything turned off) It even says android system used 2gbs so far. That's halfway to being throttled and it's totally a carrier thing. No reason I should go to sleep on a full charge and wake up to it at 60%.
But to keep in topic, I was hoping to look at something like CleanRom that would be a stock experience with all the bloat and possibly carrier IQ issues gone. Can any attest to that?

sourshin said:
I have the AT&T version and although I like the stock rom, there's no way it's the best. It randomly drains my battery and data. (and yes I have everything turned off) It even says android system used 2gbs so far. That's halfway to being throttled and it's totally a carrier thing. No reason I should go to sleep on a full charge and wake up to it at 60%.
But to keep in topic, I was hoping to look at something like CleanRom that would be a stock experience with all the bloat and possibly carrier IQ issues gone. Can any attest to that?
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u have spam app installed ..
install clean master and install battery calibration clean your phone and let the charge phone overnight once reach 100% in morning open batt. calibration hit calibrate and close app and test your device, charge 100% b4 u go to bed and check in morning should be still 100% mine is still 100% in morning ..

What about a bloated stock based rom? I want to unlimited hotspot. The stock rom is great, but I want to tether unlimited like my wife's note 2. Any tons like that?
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GalaxySIIII said:
u have spam app installed ..
install clean master and install battery calibration clean your phone and let the charge phone overnight once reach 100% in morning open batt. calibration hit calibrate and close app and test your device, charge 100% b4 u go to bed and check in morning should be still 100% mine is still 100% in morning ..
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Which carrier do you have? I use clean master alot but AT&T has messed up background apps.

5.0 battery drain and glitches

My phone was a beast before 5.0 with huge battery life and flawless performance. Now it will hang on screens and the battery is starting to remind me of the S4 Has anyone been able to track down why the battery is draining faster since this update.

Bobby Buggs said:
My phone was a beast before 5.0 with huge battery life and flawless performance. Now it will hang on screens and the battery is starting to remind me of the S4 Has anyone been able to track down why the battery is draining faster since this update.
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my phone is more of a beast after the 5.0 update.. so there is nothing to track down to me.. battery issues seem to be limited to certain ppl and not everyone.. lots are having amazing battery life.. if its not working for you then try installing kk again maybe?
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Not my first cruise here. This phone never even glitched before the 5.0, not the same performance or battery since so there is something to track down.

Any change after a factory reset of your phone?

Same issue here after 5.0. Battery drain and phone overheats after a few minutes of use. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

It seems that I am having issues as well. I have tracked the problem down to something in google play services and exchange email sync. My phone battery settings page shows that my phone is always awake.... If I do a factory reset it no longer happens. But as soon as I enable my exchange email it starts to do the same thing. My phone turns in to a nice hand warmer because it gets hot in my pocket and dies in 5 hours or so. Try a factory reset and see if it still is giving you bad battery life.
When I do the factory reset and try to do a restore of all my apps I get the same problem. When I do not restore and set my apps up from scratch it seems to work well until I add exchange email. Ill do some more testing and report back.

I dont use any exchange service just Gmail accounts and they are not on active sync, I have to swipe to sync them. Call me lazy but I dont want to Factory Reset unless its proven that its going to fix it.
Locked up so bad today Had to pull the battery for the first time since I bought it in December

No way to guarantee a FDR will fix your phone. I can tell you that it fixed mine. Battery life was terrible and the phone would get so hot it would go into cool down mode. After a FDR everything is as it should be on 5.0. IMO people should FDR after any system updates as large as the Lollipop update just to make sure all the KK files and data are gone so there are no conflicts.

Amen to what newman said i would factory reset before complaining about problems. I haven't updated to 5.0 yet because i really don't see a reason to just yet but i would definitely factory reset for peace of mind if i did.

I did a factory reset twice and still same problem. Battery drains and overheats. I find it weird that some phones have the problem and some don't.
But it definitely is a problem and I don't really "complain". Some people just ask for help which I don't think is the same as complaining. Like Bobby, I've been doing this for a while. I've been rooting and jacking with android phones since the og Droid.
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dgomez6383 said:
I did a factory reset twice and still same problem. Battery drains and overheats. I find it weird that some phones have the problem and some don't.
But it definitely is a problem and I don't really "complain". Some people just ask for help which I don't think is the same as complaining. Like Bobby, I've been doing this for a while. I've been rooting and jacking with android phones since the og Droid.
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Yeah i probably shouldn't of said "complained" didn't mean to offend anyone so sorry. Just curious after you factory reset did you give it a few hours to see if the battery drained/overheated before restoring/installing apps or anything else?

Savagerun said:
Yeah i probably shouldn't of said "complained" didn't mean to offend anyone so sorry. Just curious after you factory reset did you give it a few hours to see if the battery drained/overheated before restoring/installing apps or anything else?
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No worries man.
No I have not done that but I will try that and see what it does.

I too was a Rom swapper in a previous life but dont have time these days to keep up and needed a rock solid daily driver so I stayed stock on this phone. Please let me know if the reset does fix the issues. I hate to reformat all my stuff again for nothing. What a shame though to fugg up a great phone like this, you would think by now they should have it figured out so this doesn't happen. Or at least leak it early so the rom chefs could have a chance to find the flaws before the release

Bobby Buggs said:
I too was a Rom swapper in a previous life but dont have time these days to keep up and needed a rock solid daily driver so I stayed stock on this phone. Please let me know if the reset does fix the issues. I hate to reformat all my stuff again for nothing. What a shame though to fugg up a great phone like this, you would think by now they should have it figured out so this doesn't happen. Or at least leak it early so the rom chefs could have a chance to find the flaws before the release
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Factory resetting seemed to fix my problems. I'm pretty sure it's the solution.

snowrelyt said:
Factory resetting seemed to fix my problems. I'm pretty sure it's the solution.
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What issues were you having

Bobby Buggs said:
What issues were you having
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Rapidly draining battery.

Freezing S Health fixed my drain and heat problems. Seems that it was keeping the phone awake so it could track footsteps in the pedometer..

heffe2001 said:
Freezing S Health fixed my drain and heat problems. Seems that it was keeping the phone awake so it could track footsteps in the pedometer..
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How did you figure that out.

I played around with s health a bit after loading lolipop, and noticed thats when it heated up on my phone so I froze it in titanium backup, but didn't restart. Apparently the pedometer was still keeping track of the step because it was still running. Restarted the phone and haven't had the issue since.

heffe2001 said:
I played around with s health a bit after loading lolipop, and noticed thats when it heated up on my phone so I froze it in titanium backup, but didn't restart. Apparently the pedometer was still keeping track of the step because it was still running. Restarted the phone and haven't had the issue since.
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Im confused, you can use Titanium Bu on a non rooted phone

I Just Do Not Understand...

Maybe I just had really high expectations for this phone, maybe I just got a bad unit or maybe it's just that way.
When I first got my N6P, I had a time flashing it. My computer would freeze and the phone came back saying it was corrupt, then the phone reset itself. The files on my N5 are still on my N5 since it's so painful to transfer files. Here are some problems I'm having.
The Google app is telling me that the app is not compatible with my version of Android. What?? That makes absolutely no sense, and since it isn't compatible, I can't update it. I'm using an LG G Watch, and the device shows it's connected, but I am getting zero notifications on it. I open the Wear app and it tells me to update the Google app. This is where I hit a wall.
Second is Snapchat. I barely use Snapchat, but when I do, the app will not work. It freezes, stutters, lags, and requires a force close always. My Nexus 5 worked absolutely fine.
Third is the camera. The camera, since I rooted just will not open. I've looked up this issue and apparently its common, and flashing vendor.img fixes it. So I downloaded vendor.img and flashed it. I then got an error saying something was wrong internally with my device. Then I downloaded the latest factory image (that I'm on) and flashed that vendor.img instead of the one I downloaded. The error went away and the camera opened. Then that was that, it never opened again. Apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc will not use the camera at all, because I guess the camera API is corrupted. Why does this happen on the 6P after root?
Lastly is the battery life. I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi. Adaptive brightness is off, 20% brightness, NFC, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning is off, GPS off, ambient display is off since I have my watch, and I get almost 3 hours SOT, usually 2.5. Keep in mind, this is in airplane mode! I see people getting 4, 5, and 6+ hours SOT on the forums, saying that everything is turned on and pulling data, etc. This is insanely disappointing to me, as I hoped with the big battery and Marshmallow, it would be more optimized. I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013. Currently I have 87% battery and it's dropping while I'm not using it. I have 18 minutes SOT.
The phone itself though is truly amazing and beautiful. Very premium feeling, very sleek, very thin and light. The front facing speakers BLOWS my mind on how crisp and loud they are. They are wonderful. The display colors and crispness is gorgeous. The fingerprint scanner is really great to have, and the phone is very fast.
I don't know what to do. If I can't get better battery life then I'm going to need to return the phone, even though I sincerely don't want to.
Help with any of these? I really just want better battery from such a premium device and it truly saddens me now.

snappycg1996 said:
Maybe I just had really high expectations for this phone, maybe I just got a bad unit or maybe it's just that way.
When I first got my N6P, I had a time flashing it. My computer would freeze and the phone came back saying it was corrupt, then the phone reset itself. The files on my N5 are still on my N5 since it's so painful to transfer files. Here are some problems I'm having.
The Google app is telling me that the app is not compatible with my version of Android. What?? That makes absolutely no sense, and since it isn't compatible, I can't update it. I'm using an LG G Watch, and the device shows it's connected, but I am getting zero notifications on it. I open the Wear app and it tells me to update the Google app. This is where I hit a wall.
Second is Snapchat. I barely use Snapchat, but when I do, the app will not work. It freezes, stutters, lags, and requires a force close always. My Nexus 5 worked absolutely fine.
Third is the camera. The camera, since I rooted just will not open. I've looked up this issue and apparently its common, and flashing vendor.img fixes it. So I downloaded vendor.img and flashed it. I then got an error saying something was wrong internally with my device. Then I downloaded the latest factory image (that I'm on) and flashed that vendor.img instead of the one I downloaded. The error went away and the camera opened. Then that was that, it never opened again. Apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc will not use the camera at all, because I guess the camera API is corrupted. Why does this happen on the 6P after root?
Lastly is the battery life. I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi. Adaptive brightness is off, 20% brightness, NFC, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning is off, GPS off, ambient display is off since I have my watch, and I get almost 3 hours SOT, usually 2.5. Keep in mind, this is in airplane mode! I see people getting 4, 5, and 6+ hours SOT on the forums, saying that everything is turned on and pulling data, etc. This is insanely disappointing to me, as I hoped with the big battery and Marshmallow, it would be more optimized. I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013. Currently I have 87% battery and it's dropping while I'm not using it. I have 18 minutes SOT.
The phone itself though is truly amazing and beautiful. Very premium feeling, very sleek, very thin and light. The front facing speakers BLOWS my mind on how crisp and loud they are. They are wonderful. The display colors and crispness is gorgeous. The fingerprint scanner is really great to have, and the phone is very fast.
I don't know what to do. If I can't get better battery life then I'm going to need to return the phone, even though I sincerely don't want to.
Help with any of these? I really just want better battery from such a premium device and it truly saddens me now.
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What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.

Gizmoe said:
What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.
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I agree, I wanna say he have a bad unit, I get 4-5 hours of screen on time and I'm on my phone from the minute I get up, until I go to sleep. I'm a really heavy user

so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.

The Camera not working is usually an indication of an improper kernel/boot img.

Gizmoe said:
What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.
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I'm not the only one with this bad battery it seems though. Are there really that many defective units??? I'm on complete stock 6.0.1 with latest February patch.
TyrellP said:
I agree, I wanna say he have a bad unit, I get 4-5 hours of screen on time and I'm on my phone from the minute I get up, until I go to sleep. I'm a really heavy user
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I don't know. I'm gonna factory reset I guess, battery is draining pretty rapidly now. 38 mins SOT and 48% battery...
Soulfly3 said:
so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.
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I'm gonna try factory resetting. As of now, battery is complete garbage. I don't see how a wrong root/vendor.ing flash could cause dramatic battery loss.
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The Camera not working is usually an indication of an improper kernel/boot img.
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I flashed the wrong vendor.IMG for my version which probsbly is causing it. I'm gonna just factory reset.

What do y'all make of this??

snappycg1996 said:
What do y'all make of this??
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you have massive wakelocks which is draining your battery.
Just factory reset and follow the instructions in the link i gave you to go to the latest stock

Soulfly3 said:
you have massive wakelocks which is draining your battery.
Just factory reset and follow the instructions in the link i gave you to go to the latest stock
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I will after I deplete the battery lower, I just wanna see how long it lasts.
The device is also now slowing down a bit. The RAM is really being used..
EDIT: tries uploading screenshots. It's over 2 GBs being used on RAM.

Your phone is just messed up, I'm sure that once you get it completely stock, it'll work better and have a better SOT.
There's been some reports of bluetooth causing wakelocks when using smartwatches.

snappycg1996 said:
I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi.
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snappycg1996 said:
I'm using an LG G Watch
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snappycg1996 said:
I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013.
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Not judging. Just confused.

Sounds to me like you've done something to the phone yourself that's causing these problems. Especially the camera not opening, that's a symptom of having the wrong boot.img flashed to the device. Factory resetting won't help if you have the wrong boot.img flashed. You need to flash the factory images to ensure that everything is in line. See my guide for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

adotkdotjh said:
Not judging. Just confused.
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What's confusing? I saved up the money over my paychecks and then my college mkney came back in and I was able to buy it finally. The G Watch was on sale for 100 when I bought it.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Your phone is just messed up, I'm sure that once you get it completely stock, it'll work better and have a better SOT.
There's been some reports of bluetooth causing wakelocks when using smartwatches.
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It just doesn't make sense how it could be making my battery so bad. But like I said, I'm working on flashing the factory image right now.
Heisenberg said:
Sounds to me like you've done something to the phone yourself that's causing these problems. Especially the camera not opening, that's a symptom of having the wrong boot.img flashed to the device. Factory resetting won't help if you have the wrong boot.img flashed. You need to flash the factory images to ensure that everything is in line. See my guide for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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I am gonna flash the stock image 6.0.1 and then root systemless and see if that helps. Besides that though, I'm not sure how that could be causing such terrible battery. It's very disappointing.

snappycg1996 said:
It just doesn't make sense how it could be making my battery so bad. But like I said, I'm working on flashing the factory image right now.
I am gonna flash the stock image 6.0.1 and then root systemless and see if that helps. Besides that though, I'm not sure how that could be causing such terrible battery. It's very disappointing.
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It kinda does make sense, I don't know exactly what you've done to cause these problems but mismatches can affect battery performance. Go back to stock, flash the latest SuperSU beta and nothing else and see how it performs.

Heisenberg said:
It kinda does make sense, I don't know exactly what you've done to cause these problems but mismatches can affect battery performance. Go back to stock, flash the latest SuperSU beta and nothing else and see how it performs.
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Should I lock my bootloader and then unlock it again? Or just flash factory?

snappycg1996 said:
Should I lock my bootloader and then unlock it again? Or just flash factory?
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No need to mess with the bootloader, just leave it unlocked.

It has to be your unit. Of the four users I know none have these issues. If restoring doesn't fix it...

cstrife999 said:
It has to be your unit. Of the four users I know none have these issues. If restoring doesn't fix it...
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It doesn't have to be the unit at all, it's likely to be a result of inexperience and bad flashing.

Heisenberg said:
It doesn't have to be the unit at all, it's likely to be a result of inexperience and bad flashing.
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Soulfly3 said:
so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.
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Flashed back to complete stock, and rooted. Phone feels faster, camera now works, BUT battery is still not up to par with what others get and reviews say. I can barely get two hours, it's usually around 2:40. I have no rogue apps, I have BBS, and WLD showing nothing out of the ordinary. Normal drainers like scanning is off and I am using greenify. With no luck. Battery life is still just like my N5 when it was brand new in 2013. For a 2015/2016 phone, it's very disappointing.
Anything else you guys would recommend?

snappycg1996 said:
Flashed back to complete stock, and rooted. Phone feels faster, camera now works, BUT battery is still not up to par with what others get and reviews say. I can barely get two hours, it's usually around 2:40. I have no rogue apps, I have BBS, and WLD showing nothing out of the ordinary. Normal drainers like scanning is off and I am using greenify. With no luck. Battery life is still just like my N5 when it was brand new in 2013. For a 2015/2016 phone, it's very disappointing.
Anything else you guys would recommend?
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Uninstall Greenify, it's known for messing up with Doze.
Btw, are you living in a bad reception area? Do you use wifi or 4G most of the time? Brightness?

Should I do another factory reset?

So the last night I updated my device to the lastest firmware (APD1),had no issues while upgrading, but after the update was installed i didn't give it time to do its magic,I tested it for about 10 mins and no issues actually,then I immediately did factory reset, now I have some minor issues, I feel like swiping the edge panel is not as smooth as before a little bit laggy, and the settings app sometimes takes a while to start so it does not immediately open when I press on it, and the last thing I feel is battery life, well I can not say it's terrible but it's a bit worse than before,so are these issues the consequences of immediately doing factory reset after updating and not giving the update the time to settle? Or what I did is completely safe and these issues are normal? Should I flash the device? Should I do another factory reset?

I can tell you, regarding battery life you will wish you didn't upgrade

Cst79 said:
I can tell you, regarding battery life you will wish you didn't upgrade
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LOL, is sammy famous for screwing battery life each update?

Anyone pls answer my questions before my ocd force me to do something reckless and stupid, I haven't enjoyed the phone enough yet

My edge panels are also sticky and often won't slide out with the first swipe. It's driving me insane. My OCD is off the charts right now.

rebelde80 said:
My edge panels are also sticky and often won't slide out with the first swipe. It's driving me insane. My OCD is off the charts right now.
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This device needs hell lot of updates
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back up the datas .
and wait for next updates
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I think this is what I am going to do, hope they come fast though

Planodallas said:
back up the datas .
and wait for next updates
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Have you noticed the stubborn panels on your phone too? I thought it was hardware and got a warranty replacement, but new phone is doing it too.

Phone is now terrible. Flash Nougat CP/CSC on latest Oreo?

After the Oreo update, my s7 active has really sucked. A lot. It overheats, battery drain is through the roof, it lags constantly, the camera takes a solid 20 seconds to respond at times, and it just generally sucks. The problems sometimes seem to be heat related, as it slows down even more when on charge. I'd seen on another forum that flashing the older CP file would fix the heat issue. Anyone have any luck with this? I haven't done much android modding since the days of ICS/JB/KK, before knox and all of that. Would doing this brick me or trip knox? Any alternate suggestions besides ditching the awful carrier AT&T is in favor of a lesser evil that allows me to use a third party phone with WiFi calling or VoLTE support? That's all that's keeping me with ATT branded phones now, as where I live has little 3g reception for an urban area, so having to drop down on calls without VoLTE is a no-go for me.
Thanks guys!

Have you tried doing a hard reset on the phone first? It sounds like you updated to Oreo with all of your junk on it. No wonder it caused so many problems!
There isn't a way to downgrade from Oreo.

No way to downgrade from nougat but as I understand it, isn't it just the boot loader that can't be rolled back?
I'm not sure if what you're proposing is actually compatible but you could always check.
Best way to keep all your bits and pieces in my opinion is Samsung backup.
Just did it myself and I am getting better battery and cell signal than I ever have! On a two+ year old phone!!
I just got 4 God damn days of light use between charges!

bandario said:
No way to downgrade from nougat but as I understand it, isn't it just the boot loader that can't be rolled back?
I'm not sure if what you're proposing is actually compatible but you could always check.
Best way to keep all your bits and pieces in my opinion is Samsung backup.
Just did it myself and I am getting better battery and cell signal than I ever have! On a two+ year old phone!!
I just got 4 God damn days of light use between charges!
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Sorry, been away for a few days. I have done a reset and it works alright for a day or two then back to total suckage. I managed to drop 55% battery in a matter of two hours this afternoon with moderate use. Bright side, it was cold outside, so I got a nice hand warmer. What did you try? Flashing the older CP/CSC?
I was under the impression that the older OS wouldn't work with newer bootloader.

okyourabeast said:
Have you tried doing a hard reset on the phone first? It sounds like you updated to Oreo with all of your junk on it. No wonder it caused so many problems!
There isn't a way to downgrade from Oreo.
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Yeah, I've done two hard resets so far. No luck, but I'm backing it up again for one more shot.

willwalk93 said:
Yeah, I've done two hard resets so far. No luck, but I'm backing it up again for one more shot.
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Before doing anything drastic like attempting to flash CSC from a previous version, have you tried clean flashing the following rom in latest modified Odin including all relevant wipes?
G891AUCS4CRJ1_CL13639069_QB20030093_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta
My original comments were more towards the fact that radio behaviour on this rom has been totally different for me than every other version I've had on the device, as a result I seem to be getting much better battery life. I'm not sure what CSC it comes with, but it is certainly acting in a different fashion to all previous versions: Lots more time with 4G icon, less with LTE. Far more readily jumping over to 3G when the signal is stronger etc.
After charging my device is still getting hot, but not during general use. I think my battery is just dying a slow death - it only has 3000mah capacity now. A real shame that it isn't replaceable without defeating the waterproofing.
If the Sonim XP8 were a little bit better specced I would buy one in a heartbeat.

Nice, I'll give that one a shot. I was going to flash a clean install of CRJ1 tomorrow after it downloaded. Don't have very fast internet here. I appreciate the input!!!
If it weren't for AT&T restricting VoLTE to their branded phones, I'd jump ship to oneplus or anything in the pixel lineup. Or the LG g7. Or literally any third party phone that wouldn't force botched updates and bloatware down my throat constantly and re-enable crap I've disabled with every update. But where I work has great LTE signal, very very little 3g/HSPA+, so not having VoLTE isn't an option. Same for wifi calling where my parents live, poor signal so no use having the phone when I visit if I can't use wifi for calls/texts.
Currently using my old g5. Whew. I forgot that this thing would fry eggs with light use. But at least the battery is replaceable. Tried replacing my aging S7 active battery on my first one. Four days later the bottom half of the screen died. Oops.