I Just Do Not Understand... - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Maybe I just had really high expectations for this phone, maybe I just got a bad unit or maybe it's just that way.
When I first got my N6P, I had a time flashing it. My computer would freeze and the phone came back saying it was corrupt, then the phone reset itself. The files on my N5 are still on my N5 since it's so painful to transfer files. Here are some problems I'm having.
The Google app is telling me that the app is not compatible with my version of Android. What?? That makes absolutely no sense, and since it isn't compatible, I can't update it. I'm using an LG G Watch, and the device shows it's connected, but I am getting zero notifications on it. I open the Wear app and it tells me to update the Google app. This is where I hit a wall.
Second is Snapchat. I barely use Snapchat, but when I do, the app will not work. It freezes, stutters, lags, and requires a force close always. My Nexus 5 worked absolutely fine.
Third is the camera. The camera, since I rooted just will not open. I've looked up this issue and apparently its common, and flashing vendor.img fixes it. So I downloaded vendor.img and flashed it. I then got an error saying something was wrong internally with my device. Then I downloaded the latest factory image (that I'm on) and flashed that vendor.img instead of the one I downloaded. The error went away and the camera opened. Then that was that, it never opened again. Apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc will not use the camera at all, because I guess the camera API is corrupted. Why does this happen on the 6P after root?
Lastly is the battery life. I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi. Adaptive brightness is off, 20% brightness, NFC, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning is off, GPS off, ambient display is off since I have my watch, and I get almost 3 hours SOT, usually 2.5. Keep in mind, this is in airplane mode! I see people getting 4, 5, and 6+ hours SOT on the forums, saying that everything is turned on and pulling data, etc. This is insanely disappointing to me, as I hoped with the big battery and Marshmallow, it would be more optimized. I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013. Currently I have 87% battery and it's dropping while I'm not using it. I have 18 minutes SOT.
The phone itself though is truly amazing and beautiful. Very premium feeling, very sleek, very thin and light. The front facing speakers BLOWS my mind on how crisp and loud they are. They are wonderful. The display colors and crispness is gorgeous. The fingerprint scanner is really great to have, and the phone is very fast.
I don't know what to do. If I can't get better battery life then I'm going to need to return the phone, even though I sincerely don't want to.
Help with any of these? I really just want better battery from such a premium device and it truly saddens me now.

snappycg1996 said:
Maybe I just had really high expectations for this phone, maybe I just got a bad unit or maybe it's just that way.
When I first got my N6P, I had a time flashing it. My computer would freeze and the phone came back saying it was corrupt, then the phone reset itself. The files on my N5 are still on my N5 since it's so painful to transfer files. Here are some problems I'm having.
The Google app is telling me that the app is not compatible with my version of Android. What?? That makes absolutely no sense, and since it isn't compatible, I can't update it. I'm using an LG G Watch, and the device shows it's connected, but I am getting zero notifications on it. I open the Wear app and it tells me to update the Google app. This is where I hit a wall.
Second is Snapchat. I barely use Snapchat, but when I do, the app will not work. It freezes, stutters, lags, and requires a force close always. My Nexus 5 worked absolutely fine.
Third is the camera. The camera, since I rooted just will not open. I've looked up this issue and apparently its common, and flashing vendor.img fixes it. So I downloaded vendor.img and flashed it. I then got an error saying something was wrong internally with my device. Then I downloaded the latest factory image (that I'm on) and flashed that vendor.img instead of the one I downloaded. The error went away and the camera opened. Then that was that, it never opened again. Apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc will not use the camera at all, because I guess the camera API is corrupted. Why does this happen on the 6P after root?
Lastly is the battery life. I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi. Adaptive brightness is off, 20% brightness, NFC, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning is off, GPS off, ambient display is off since I have my watch, and I get almost 3 hours SOT, usually 2.5. Keep in mind, this is in airplane mode! I see people getting 4, 5, and 6+ hours SOT on the forums, saying that everything is turned on and pulling data, etc. This is insanely disappointing to me, as I hoped with the big battery and Marshmallow, it would be more optimized. I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013. Currently I have 87% battery and it's dropping while I'm not using it. I have 18 minutes SOT.
The phone itself though is truly amazing and beautiful. Very premium feeling, very sleek, very thin and light. The front facing speakers BLOWS my mind on how crisp and loud they are. They are wonderful. The display colors and crispness is gorgeous. The fingerprint scanner is really great to have, and the phone is very fast.
I don't know what to do. If I can't get better battery life then I'm going to need to return the phone, even though I sincerely don't want to.
Help with any of these? I really just want better battery from such a premium device and it truly saddens me now.
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What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.

Gizmoe said:
What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.
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I agree, I wanna say he have a bad unit, I get 4-5 hours of screen on time and I'm on my phone from the minute I get up, until I go to sleep. I'm a really heavy user

so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.

The Camera not working is usually an indication of an improper kernel/boot img.

Gizmoe said:
What are you running. Stock or custom. I am on full stock and don't have any of those issues. I also only plug in my phone about an hour a day and I am a heavy user. It seems you may just have a bad chip though. It happens.
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I'm not the only one with this bad battery it seems though. Are there really that many defective units??? I'm on complete stock 6.0.1 with latest February patch.
TyrellP said:
I agree, I wanna say he have a bad unit, I get 4-5 hours of screen on time and I'm on my phone from the minute I get up, until I go to sleep. I'm a really heavy user
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I don't know. I'm gonna factory reset I guess, battery is draining pretty rapidly now. 38 mins SOT and 48% battery...
Soulfly3 said:
so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.
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I'm gonna try factory resetting. As of now, battery is complete garbage. I don't see how a wrong root/vendor.ing flash could cause dramatic battery loss.
dratsablive said:
The Camera not working is usually an indication of an improper kernel/boot img.
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I flashed the wrong vendor.IMG for my version which probsbly is causing it. I'm gonna just factory reset.

What do y'all make of this??

snappycg1996 said:
What do y'all make of this??
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you have massive wakelocks which is draining your battery.
Just factory reset and follow the instructions in the link i gave you to go to the latest stock

Soulfly3 said:
you have massive wakelocks which is draining your battery.
Just factory reset and follow the instructions in the link i gave you to go to the latest stock
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I will after I deplete the battery lower, I just wanna see how long it lasts.
The device is also now slowing down a bit. The RAM is really being used..
EDIT: tries uploading screenshots. It's over 2 GBs being used on RAM.

Your phone is just messed up, I'm sure that once you get it completely stock, it'll work better and have a better SOT.
There's been some reports of bluetooth causing wakelocks when using smartwatches.

snappycg1996 said:
I'm a college student with bills and have got to wait until next payday to get my phone turned on with service, so I've been using airplane mode with WiFi.
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snappycg1996 said:
I'm using an LG G Watch
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snappycg1996 said:
I paid 700 dollars for this 128GB phone, so I expected the battery to be better than my N5 was back in 2013.
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Not judging. Just confused.

Sounds to me like you've done something to the phone yourself that's causing these problems. Especially the camera not opening, that's a symptom of having the wrong boot.img flashed to the device. Factory resetting won't help if you have the wrong boot.img flashed. You need to flash the factory images to ensure that everything is in line. See my guide for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

adotkdotjh said:
Not judging. Just confused.
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What's confusing? I saved up the money over my paychecks and then my college mkney came back in and I was able to buy it finally. The G Watch was on sale for 100 when I bought it.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Your phone is just messed up, I'm sure that once you get it completely stock, it'll work better and have a better SOT.
There's been some reports of bluetooth causing wakelocks when using smartwatches.
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It just doesn't make sense how it could be making my battery so bad. But like I said, I'm working on flashing the factory image right now.
Heisenberg said:
Sounds to me like you've done something to the phone yourself that's causing these problems. Especially the camera not opening, that's a symptom of having the wrong boot.img flashed to the device. Factory resetting won't help if you have the wrong boot.img flashed. You need to flash the factory images to ensure that everything is in line. See my guide for details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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I am gonna flash the stock image 6.0.1 and then root systemless and see if that helps. Besides that though, I'm not sure how that could be causing such terrible battery. It's very disappointing.

snappycg1996 said:
It just doesn't make sense how it could be making my battery so bad. But like I said, I'm working on flashing the factory image right now.
I am gonna flash the stock image 6.0.1 and then root systemless and see if that helps. Besides that though, I'm not sure how that could be causing such terrible battery. It's very disappointing.
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It kinda does make sense, I don't know exactly what you've done to cause these problems but mismatches can affect battery performance. Go back to stock, flash the latest SuperSU beta and nothing else and see how it performs.

Heisenberg said:
It kinda does make sense, I don't know exactly what you've done to cause these problems but mismatches can affect battery performance. Go back to stock, flash the latest SuperSU beta and nothing else and see how it performs.
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Should I lock my bootloader and then unlock it again? Or just flash factory?

snappycg1996 said:
Should I lock my bootloader and then unlock it again? Or just flash factory?
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No need to mess with the bootloader, just leave it unlocked.

It has to be your unit. Of the four users I know none have these issues. If restoring doesn't fix it...

cstrife999 said:
It has to be your unit. Of the four users I know none have these issues. If restoring doesn't fix it...
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It doesn't have to be the unit at all, it's likely to be a result of inexperience and bad flashing.

Heisenberg said:
It doesn't have to be the unit at all, it's likely to be a result of inexperience and bad flashing.
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Soulfly3 said:
so, by the sounds of it, you flashed a bunch of things improperly, and now are wondering why things aren't working?
(before you get sassy, you did flash things imporoperly (comp freezing, phone resetting), because you had some errors, and your vendor was out of date etc.. This isn't an insult, happens to all of us at some point or another)
follow THIS guide, and go back to COMPLETE stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
from there, I am more than certain you will see things improve. drastically.
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Flashed back to complete stock, and rooted. Phone feels faster, camera now works, BUT battery is still not up to par with what others get and reviews say. I can barely get two hours, it's usually around 2:40. I have no rogue apps, I have BBS, and WLD showing nothing out of the ordinary. Normal drainers like scanning is off and I am using greenify. With no luck. Battery life is still just like my N5 when it was brand new in 2013. For a 2015/2016 phone, it's very disappointing.
Anything else you guys would recommend?

snappycg1996 said:
Flashed back to complete stock, and rooted. Phone feels faster, camera now works, BUT battery is still not up to par with what others get and reviews say. I can barely get two hours, it's usually around 2:40. I have no rogue apps, I have BBS, and WLD showing nothing out of the ordinary. Normal drainers like scanning is off and I am using greenify. With no luck. Battery life is still just like my N5 when it was brand new in 2013. For a 2015/2016 phone, it's very disappointing.
Anything else you guys would recommend?
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Uninstall Greenify, it's known for messing up with Doze.
Btw, are you living in a bad reception area? Do you use wifi or 4G most of the time? Brightness?

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Anyone else having partial wakelocks/worse battery life after JB OTA?

Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone happens to be getting a lot of partial wakelocks without screen on or if your overall battery life has decreased since installing the 4.1.1 OTA. When I first purchased the phone, I had very very few incidents under my battery info where I would have a session awake without the screen on. Post update, seems like I've got a ton of really small wakes with no screen activity. I have turned off Google Now and every GPS/Location setting I could find. Downloaded Better Battery Stats today so I'm going to see if I can get some better info on what's going on, new to the program though and I don't understand most of the info that it reads.
Prior to the update, letting my phone sit overnight I would maybe see a 3 or 4% drop over the course of say six or seven hours. Now I'm seeing a 3 to 4% drop in battery per hour, more if I'm actively using the phone. I'm going to do more testing, specifically overnight to see how it fairs. Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else is experiencing any of these issues.
:good: -Matt
I am noticing the same thing. Don't know the cause. Keep sync off all day.
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Im getting the fast dormancy symptom again... no matter what i tried I cant fix it... always connecting as HSPDA+ even if im not using......anyone got any ideas?
Hmm, might try a factory reset and not installing any apps at all and seeing how it fairs. By chance, do you guys have any of the stock bloatware apps disabled? Not rooted/Frozen, but just disabled via the apps menu? Wondering if perhaps disabling any of them might be a trigger.
-Matt
sombody said:
Im getting the fast dormancy symptom again... no matter what i tried I cant fix it... always connecting as HSPDA+ even if im not using......anyone got any ideas?
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for me freezing modem fast dormancy monitor and modem stats service appears to fix fast dormancy
Yes I am noticing it to. I disabled Google now and it got a bit better.
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Roflwafflez said:
Prior to the update, letting my phone sit overnight I would maybe see a 3 or 4% drop over the course of say six or seven hours. Now I'm seeing a 3 to 4% drop in battery per hour, more if I'm actively using the phone. I'm going to do more testing, specifically overnight to see how it fairs. Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else is experiencing any of these issues.
:good: -Matt
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Yea i'm getting that. I'm using 13% overnight now vs like 4% before. Not sure about the wakelocks though.
Some random things I've noticed are the blur widget resets itself alot. And the transition to the settings window on the left is laggy. How would one revert back to ICS? Google Now is not that worth it to me and the phone was smooth enough before. I'd take the battery life over the new features.
I did buy a second Razr M for my girlfriend that's still on ICS. I guess I can do a side by side compare this weekend.
I am loving the update.. only issue so far is fire fox crashing..no battery issues. Must be settings guys..
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i don't think it is setting i have all my syncs to manual, and i have been noticing a lot worse battery life since the update i would have 18+ hours or so off charger with pretty heavy texting / game / some voice calls. Now i'm not getting close to that. I just disabled the fast dormancy service to see if that helps any, ill post back results
Just did a factory reset today, I'm not going to disable any of the bloatware this time, and I only installed BetterBatteryStats as well as updated all the default apps in the Play Store. Going to see if I get any wakelocks this time around.
Last night, after a period of 6 hours, I had over an hours worth of partial wakelocks from AlarmManager (subheading Phone).
-Matt :good:
I disabled Google Now and my phone used 7% battery over 6 and a half hours. A little bit better.
A factory reset (annoying as it is) helped me considerably. My phone was also seriously laggy before the reset...slow like my old DX on GB, much worse than factory ICS. It finally feels smooth now, like JB should.
Still seeing a lot more wakelocks than on ICS, but it doesn't seem to be draining the battery like it was before the reset. I also removed or disabled a couple of apps that seemed to be serious offenders (Accuweather was one).
Did a reset on mine as well and did not restore from Google backup. Still seeing wakelocks, but as someone noted earlier they don't seem to be draining the battery too much. With that said, the battery does still seem to tick down much faster than on ICS. One thing I did find that helped, although honestly it's not really a solution, is turning off data use when I'm out and about just answering texts and such. If I have data/wifi disabled, I'm getting closer to the battery life that ICS was giving, but then again who wants to go around having to toggle data on and off every time you want to look something up.
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Is maps showing up on your battery stats and you're not using it? If so, simply open the application. It should say "updated to the latest version" or something like that. If this is happening, this will solve your battery problems.
Happened on my Galaxy Nexus and was happening initially for this phone too. Hope this helps someone.
Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service Not Responding.
Me and my wife both updated to KitKat on our Razr M's. I like it so far. The pop up about modem fast dormancy bothers both of use. When you look under battery, it uses more battery than other apps. I force stop it, reboot and it comes right back. A chat on Motorola web site sugested to wipe partition cache. The link that was provide gives the wrong instructions. KitKat using the power and volume keys has changed. They forgot to tell some people. That didn't work! I sent a long email to Motorola telling them that someone messed up or they did this for a reason! I guess if you get mad enough you'll just buy a newer phone. If that one thing is fixed, we would both be happy. The white background in text take some getting use to also. I hope Motorola will help us, but I kind of think Razr M's will be considered OLD! They are betting we will junk them for a new model.
notrite63 said:
Me and my wife both updated to KitKat on our Razr M's. I like it so far. The pop up about modem fast dormancy bothers both of use. When you look under battery, it uses more battery than other apps. I force stop it, reboot and it comes right back. A chat on Motorola web site sugested to wipe partition cache. The link that was provide gives the wrong instructions. KitKat using the power and volume keys has changed. They forgot to tell some people. That didn't work! I sent a long email to Motorola telling them that someone messed up or they did this for a reason! I guess if you get mad enough you'll just buy a newer phone. If that one thing is fixed, we would both be happy. The white background in text take some getting use to also. I hope Motorola will help us, but I kind of think Razr M's will be considered OLD! They are betting we will junk them for a new model.
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dude its a 2012 thread
about 4.1.1 (jellybean)
kitkat is 4.4.1 (or something)
thread is supose to be dead&buried
dead and buried
fredsky2 said:
dude its a 2012 thread
about 4.1.1 (jellybean)
kitkat is 4.4.1 (or something)
thread is supose to be dead&buried
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Sorry! My bad. I didn't notice it was closed. Why do they not take old olds off line.

Sudden drop in battery performance on my Nexus 6P(no rogue 3rd party apps).

Hello everyone!
So I have been having these battery issues since April security patch. the phone gets really warm to the touch even by doing the simplest of things like browsing and watching youtube. Android OS keeps the phone awake 80% of the time and I am only getting 2-3 hours of use throughout the day. Restored the phone to factory settings(fresh start, nothing restored) three days ago and still the same issue. Android OS drains the battery life even though I made sure that only google apps are installed on the phone.
But today things got even weirder. I disabled Google Now and location services as a test and the battery drain and heat issues were gone temporarily. I was getting a great battery performance from morning to afternoon. I check my battery stats and I notice that Google services mysteriously drained 17% of my battery life and that it's been running for 21 days straight? That's impossible since I just did a fresh reset to the phone three days ago. I rebooted the phone and that "Google services" drain changed to WiFi instead?! That's crazy!
I contacted Google store support team and they have been really helpful so far. They offered to replace the phone with a refurbished unit, but I don't think I am ready to give up on this phone just yet.
Thank you!
waelalzubieri said:
Hello everyone!
So I have been having these battery issues since April security patch. the phone gets really warm to the touch even by doing the simplest of things like browsing and watching youtube. Android OS keeps the phone awake 80% of the time and I am only getting 2-3 hours of use throughout the day. Restored the phone to factory settings(fresh start, nothing restored) three days ago and still the same issue. Android OS drains the battery life even though I made sure that only google apps are installed on the phone.
But today things got even weirder. I disabled Google Now and location services as a test and the battery drain and heat issues were gone temporarily. I was getting a great battery performance from morning to afternoon. I check my battery stats and I notice that Google services mysteriously drained 17% of my battery life and that it's been running for 21 days straight? That's impossible since I just did a fresh reset to the phone three days ago. I rebooted the phone and that "Google services" drain changed to WiFi instead?! That's crazy!
I contacted Google store support team and they have been really helpful so far. They offered to replace the phone with a refurbished unit, but I don't think I am ready to give up on this phone just yet.
Thank you!
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I hate to recommend this, but sometimes things go out of wack after a SW update, so a hard reset would probably be needed. I would try that (just start from zero) before jumping into a refurbished phone that might have some other kind of issues. Have you tried a hard reset yet? I see that you did a fresh reset. Did you go through the recovery though? Not just the regular UI. I think it's better to clear cache, and every thing through the recovery (custom or stock).
en28so said:
I hate to recommend this, but sometimes things go out of wack after a SW update, so a hard reset would probably be needed. I would try that (just start from zero) before jumping into a refurbished phone that might have some other kind of issues. Have you tried a hard reset yet? I see that you did a fresh reset. Did you go through the recovery though? Not just the regular UI. I think it's better to clear cache, and every thing through the recovery (custom or stock).
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I did it through recovery. I have cleared the cache and rebooted the phone several times the past few days. Nothing seems to help at all.
Turn off your google backup.
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waelalzubieri said:
I did it through recovery. I have cleared the cache and rebooted the phone several times the past few days. Nothing seems to help at all.
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Wow. Maybe a custom ROM might help? Have you tried that? That's the last thing I would do. Good luck!
Not recommended but I just flashed January vendor and ROM and that has helped my battery life. I. Believe it is the security updates that kill our battery.
shawn1482 said:
Not recommended but I just flashed January vendor and ROM and that has helped my battery life. I. Believe it is the security updates that kill our battery.
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Is it a widespread issue? Like I said in my post, I saw the decline ever since I got the April security update. The May patch actually managed to make things worse. There seems to be something hidden in the OS that it's draining the battery and causing the awake issues. I haven't tried rooting the device because I lack the experience to do so. I will probably look into it on these forums, but at this point I have tried everything.
Disabling Google now helped a lot and it exposed some sort of a glitch with the stock battery monitoring app. I am not sure if it's hardware or software, but it's certainly not normal. I am tempted to just replace it, but I am afraid that this issue will just plague the new one from Google. I am really disappointed How Google handles updates on this device. I always thought that stock android is most stable version of android, but the software on my old Xperia Z is actually more stable than this. It never had battery drain issues and standby battery life was always great. The battery life on Nexus 6P is actually worse than the Xperia Z even though that phone is 3 years old.
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Is it a widespread issue? Like I said in my post, I saw the decline ever since I got the April security update. The May patch actually managed to make things worse. There seems to be something hidden in the OS that it's draining the battery and causing the awake issues. I haven't tried rooting the device because I lack the experience to do so. I will probably look into it on these forums, but at this point I have tried everything.
Disabling Google now helped a lot and it exposed some sort of a glitch with the stock battery monitoring app. I am not sure if it's hardware or software, but it's certainly not normal. I am tempted to just replace it, but I am afraid that this issue will just plague the new one from Google. I am really disappointed How Google handles updates on this device. I always thought that stock android is most stable version of android, but the software on my old Xperia Z is actually more stable than this. It never had battery drain issues and standby battery life was always great. The battery life on Nexus 6P is actually worse than the Xperia Z even though that phone is 3 years old.
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I've seen a lot of posts over the months with people having the same problem we are. I came from a mid range LG stylo with a snapdragon 610. I would have 8 hours screen on time daily. Its sad that goggle cant get the same out of their own hardware. Also I have seen that the Note 5 and S7 Edge both get better battery life as opposed to our stock phones. For as much as people praise stock and look down on Touchwiz, they are doing something right over there.
But it doesn't affect everyone and that what puzzles me. Only certain phones are hit by these issues, while other people are getting excellent battery life. I have seen plenty of people post screenshots of 6 hours+ of on screen time. I am lucky to get 3 hours. I think Google should really invest in creating a better power management system into Android. Companies like Sony and Samsung built their own and the battery life on their devices always perform predictably relative to what I am seeing on this phone. I have never witnessed The doze feature kick in since I have bought this phone. Sony had stamina mode since 2013 and it actually worked.
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But it doesn't affect everyone and that what puzzles me. Only certain phones are hit by these issues, while other people are getting excellent battery life. I have seen plenty of people post screenshots of 6 hours+ of on screen time. I am lucky to get 3 hours. I think Google should really invest in creating a better power management system into Android. Companies like Sony and Samsung built their own and the battery life on their devices always perform predictably relative to what I am seeing on this phone. I have never witnessed The doze feature kick in since I have bought this phone. Sony had stamina mode since 2013 and it actually worked.
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Most of those people posting those outrageous number root and do kernel tweaks. I've gotten at most 6 hours SOT on stock without root. You are right our phones do all react differently to certain circumstances. I don't know if it's feasible to you ,but you should try rooting and trying out a few Roms some help others don't. If you aren't into Roms and decide to root try earlier vendors and stock roms and see it those work. I'm not an expert by any means just my suggestions.
shawn1482 said:
Most of those people posting those outrageous number root and do kernel tweaks. I've gotten at most 6 hours SOT on stock without root. You are right our phones do all react differently to certain circumstances. I don't know if it's feasible to you ,but you should try rooting and trying out a few Roms some help others don't. If you aren't into Roms and decide to root try earlier vendors and stock roms and see it those work. I'm not an expert by any means just my suggestions.
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Well, the fact that you are having great battery life proves my point. It's either that the quality control of the batteries used on these phones are terrible, or that the software or kernel are corrupted from factory causing these issues. There is no way to fix them by hard reseting the phone so far. I am going to try to flash a stock rom on this device and see what happens. Thanks by the way.
1) Are you rooted? If not, at least do that and install BBS in order to track down what's eating your battery.
2) Probably we'll run into a common problem / bug the last two months.
After unplugging the phone, it seems that the wakelock *backup* runs constantly, does not let phone get into sleep, and runs in the background while using your phone causin battery to drain faster.
3) About battery life. Comparing battery results between two users it has no point, unless you really now his usage pattern. Not only the setup, but which apps of them used most etc.
For example Facebook app is real battery eater. I've seen an hour more SOT without this app.
I can give several examples like this.
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What should I do....

So I just switched to 7.0 U firmware from 7.0 att.
I have done a lot of stuff to save battery on this phone and still no luck. So far this is what I have today. Not even 2 hours of screen on time and it's almost dead... any helps?
Factory rest and cleared cache several times after switching and no luck
Start the RMA process. You have a bad battery.
Krazie99 said:
So I just switched to 7.0 U firmware from 7.0 att.
I have done a lot of stuff to save battery on this phone and still no luck. So far this is what I have today. Not even 2 hours of screen on time and it's almost dead... any helps?
Factory rest and cleared cache several times after switching and no luck
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From my experience, you could have an app that is doing the dirty deed. Try to factory wipe without restoring apps, do a basic set up and see how it works.
Also, try going back to the stock AT&T release.
kangi26 said:
From my experience, you could have an app that is doing the dirty deed. Try to factory wipe without restoring apps, do a basic set up and see how it works.
Also, try going back to the stock AT&T release.
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It's possible, but the screen shot lists the usual top three suspects and only a couple of hours of SOT is abysmal, even for stock.
It's certainly worth a shot going back to stock and installing nothing but the bare essentials, but I'd say there is a better than average chance the device has a hardware problem with those kinds of numbers.
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It's possible, but the screen shot lists the usual top three suspects and only a couple of hours of SOT is abysmal, even for stock.
It's certainly worth a shot going back to stock and installing nothing but the bare essentials, but I'd say there is a better than average chance the device has a hardware problem with those kinds of numbers.
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I would rather keep the u firmware with stuff I need and have bad battery then have stock with nothing on it. I was thinking of going back to stock when I switched to U but only the that held me back ass all the bloatware on att. So should I get a new battery?
Krazie99 said:
I would rather keep the u firmware with stuff I need and have bad battery then have stock with nothing on it. I was thinking of going back to stock when I switched to U but only the that held me back ass all the bloatware on att. So should I get a new battery?
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IMO, the bloat that is on the stock ROM's are somewhat irrelevant now. You may not be able to un-install it, but you can disable it, and in the grand scheme of things has little impact on the device or performance once that's done. Annoying? YES, but......
I'd say if the U ROM isnt performing, ditch it
Again, In My Opinion
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IMO, the bloat that is on the stock ROM's are somewhat irrelevant now. You may not be able to un-install it, but you can disable it, and in the grand scheme of things has little impact on the device or performance once that's done. Annoying? YES, but......
I'd say if the U ROM isnt performing, ditch it
Again, In My Opinion
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Updated. Have any idea what can cause this?

Battery life on Oreo

I flashed the stock image and i found the battery life abysmal. Not even a day
7-8 hrs tops with barely any usage
Anyone has experienced the same issue
Give it a few days and see if it improves. Sometimes drastic updates can have adverse effects on the battery
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I have one of the best battery life on O right now and I'm not pointing fingers to anything but google.
I was excited after hearing "Android Vitals" and they are on point about it.
Try to flash a custom kernel like EX or Flash though Ex's kernel isn't fully committed with the O source code but you may at least try it. On a side note there are still apps out there that aren't coded properly for O which would probably hinder your angler so look out for them a lot.
Thank you everyone for pitching in
Like I mentioned I flashed the stock image and gave it 2 days but as I disconnect the phone from the charger at around 9 AM (100%) , by 3-4 PM I am being left with 30% or less . By 6 PM it starts beeping as it hovers 15%
I barely use the phone at work. I just do occasional messaging (text and whatsapp). I removed all apps except the ones that I really need. No games...etc
I did flash the other day the EX Kernel ( Beta for O) for which I have the paid manager version.
It drives me crazy as it seems to be draining at a very fast rate with no apparent reason.
What's even more frustrating is that the built in battery app doesn't shed much light. The process that takes the most battery is "System" but that's all.
Maybe it's time for a new phone
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Thank you everyone for pitching in
Like I mentioned I flashed the stock image and gave it 2 days but as I disconnect the phone from the charger at around 9 AM (100%) , by 3-4 PM I am being left with 30% or less . By 6 PM it starts beeping as it hovers 15%
I barely use the phone at work. I just do occasional messaging (text and whatsapp). I removed all apps except the ones that I really need. No games...etc
I did flash the other day the EX Kernel ( Beta for O) for which I have the paid manager version.
It drives me crazy as it seems to be draining at a very fast rate with no apparent reason.
What's even more frustrating is that the built in battery app doesn't shed much light. The process that takes the most battery is "System" but that's all.
Maybe it's time for a new phone
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Yes, I went back to paranoid nougat, because I got the same
battery experience as you with O. But I'm reading that you use
what's app, do you can play a video if someone sending you one? Since the O previews for me the videos are just loading but not playing, and that's only the case by using android O, doesn't matter if I use what's app or what's app beta.
I got the 2% battery drain bug and sometimes i dont, ive reflashed oreo about 8 times lol, sometimes it dies at 15%..
coremania said:
Yes, I went back to paranoid nougat, because I got the same
battery experience as you with O. But I'm reading that you use
what's app, do you can play a video if someone sending you one? Since the O previews for me the videos are just loading but not playing, and that's only the case by using android O, doesn't matter if I use what's app or what's app beta.
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I haven't had any issues with any of the apps. Whatsapp works well I can play videos see the pics etc
I think I am going to get back to Paranoid
I read somewhere I needed to flash first the Nougat stock before attempting to put any custom ROM. Is that what you did?
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I haven't had any issues with any of the apps. Whatsapp works well I can play videos see the pics etc
I think I am going to get back to Paranoid
I read somewhere I needed to flash first the Nougat stock before attempting to put any custom ROM. Is that what you did?
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No, just my twrp backup, you can stay on latest bootloader and radio. Strange thing with whats app, may oreo doesn't like my internal, if final release come I will complete clean flash with fastboot.
Edit: check latest Pixeldust rom, it's like pa with a bit more useful features
I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
Battery update.- Running kylo kernel r9 , working great so far just a few personal tweaks applied.
rainfactor said:
I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
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I'm not sure what you're expecting, give the rom some time and charges to settle battery. How old is your phone? If you don't have patience flash stock image and completely wipe your phone if you think something is faulty.
Well...
I used to get like a day out of the phone . With my minimal usage I would disconnect it in the morning and still have like 30-40% when getting back home in the evening.
All of the sudden one day I was just on my way home and I noticed the phone was off. I tried power it back on but it kept on flashing red as it was totally drained. Since then battery went downhill.
I'm not crazy and I do not have unrealistic expectations but 5 or 6 hours of battery with almost no usage seems a bit off. I gauged just by looking at the numbers being something ridiculous like 10% an hour.
I did wipe and flash the stock few times. Oreo then Nougat
Since the issue persisted I am thinking the phone just went bad.
If your battery is faulty, then it's faulty, that's why i asked how old your phone is. Ain't there battery health apps to take a look how worse it is.
Yeah I think it's maybe 1yr and half old.
I'm starting to evaluate those Essentials and Pixels 2.
Or better get a Pixel 1st gen if they drop low enough
Sounds to me like your battery is worn out. I'm amazed that you got 1.5 years out of it because I've seen posts from people who didn't even make it a year. You mentioned that it's draining 2% at a time and shuts down at 15%, which are pretty strong indicators that your battery is shot.
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Yeah I think it's maybe 1yr and half old.
I'm starting to evaluate those Essentials and Pixels 2.
Or better get a Pixel 1st gen if they drop low enough
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Nokia 8 (pure android) is an option too, but I would change the battery, n6p is still a very nice piece of hardware. Essential
is a hype phone til now.
Do you have a trusted source you can share for a battery?
There are so many floating around and I'm not sure about their quality
rainfactor said:
Do you have a trusted source you can share for a battery?
There are so many floating around and I'm not sure about their quality
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Hard to say, I will run accubattery for week, after a first charge it doesn't look very promising for me too, and my phone is a bit over a year old. may some other users know a better tool or app, but this one doesn't seem to be so bad. Let's see what happens after some charges.
Akku Gesundheit=Accu Health, sry it's german here.
If you search for a replacement there is a thread here on xda
for the 6p, OEM battery or something like this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/oem-battery-t3534410
Edit: may you try to do a rma with your 6p, like this lucky guy
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nexus-6p-google-replaced-pixel-xl-t3660808
rainfactor said:
I think my phone may be defective
Even on Paranoid the battery seems bad
The miscellaneous was on top of the list . What does that mean .... ?
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Same for me, with Oreo it's even worse
Update, kylo kernel r9, works fine however my phone now dies at 5% instead of 15%-20% much better but still.

Where's my battery going?! (Phone won't sleep?!)

HELP!!!
I picked up an H918 for my wife to use on T-mobile USA. Since it was used, I also got one of the extended life 4100Mah batteries to hopefully make it last at least the entire day without topping off the charge. She usually averages around 4 - 5 hour SOT, so this seemed like a good option from what I've read, and fits in the original door so I can use the wallet case she wants with it.
But man, her battery life is TERRIBLE! I checked with Accubattery, and it reports that the battery is charging within 99% of it's 4100mah spec, so I don't think its a bad battery. Yet, she can barely go 12 hours with just under 2 hours SOT before the phone dies!
She is unrooted, running stock Oreo.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and used their ADB commands to give it permission to record deep statistics w/out root (pretty cool, never did that before). I ran it for a little while this morning. Within 3 hours 40 minutes off the charger, she was already down to 72% with barely any SOT. I'm attaching screenshots of the app usage and doze screen (sorry for the phone-snapped-of-phone picture, it's my wifes phone like I said, so it was easier to just snap with my camera than take a screenshot and send it to myself to post).
Maybe I'm not reading this right, but it seems like something is keeping her phone from sleeping. A big culprit seems to be call services, and in my location settings, I noticed it mention that LG IMS was doing a lot of heavy battery drain with location related inquiries.
I thought maybe it was related to WiFi calling, so I turned that off. Cell reception is average.
2 hours later, she's down to 50% so that wasn't it. I don't know what else to try other than hard reset, but we literally just got this and set it up 2 days ago, and its been like this from day one. I don't see why it would be any different the second time around.
It's likely a junk battery. It's really hard to get a good oem replacement battery.
If you shop Amazon look for a Taeozi 4200 or Shemnz 4200. They both have 2 year warranty and decent reviews here on XDA
The Perfine 4100 is also highly recommend
Any Li-polymer should be better
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When I bought my wife's phone it had a battery drain/overheat and wakelock issue as well. I fixed it and haven't had an issue since. Here's what I did to fix it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/absolutely-terrible-battery-life-t3531456/post78654160
clsA said:
It's likely a junk battery. It's really hard to get a good oem replacement battery.
If you shop Amazon look for a Taeozi 4200 or Shemnz 4200. They both have 2 year warranty and decent reviews here on XDA
The Perfine 4100 is also highly recommend
Any Li-polymer should be better
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I did my homework first and got the Perfine from Amazon, not a no-name junk battery. When I couldn't fit it without removing the sticker, the seller was really helpful and actually offered to replace it after checking first that it fit in *THEIR* V20 at the factory. Really solid customer support. And according to Accubattery, it really is the capacity it says. Or at least within 99% of it (I think it estimated 4080 or something like that). So I don't think that's the issue.
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When I bought my wife's phone it had a battery drain/overheat and wakelock issue as well. I fixed it and haven't had an issue since. Here's what I did to fix it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/absolutely-terrible-battery-life-t3531456/post78654160
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That's actually really interesting- I did take apart the phone to do the thermal mod thing (wiped off the dried up pink gunk and put a thermal pad there), but it seemed pretty clean otherwise inside when I did. How on earth did you figure out that was the problem?
After speaking with some folks on Telegram, Reddit, and other corners of the internet, I have a different theory. A bunch of people told me to let the rom "settle", that battery life is never good after a fresh format or new rom flash. Honestly, the critical thinker in me says that sounds like nonsense. I've never heard of this before and I've been flashing roms for the better half of a decade. I'd think after it takes the time the load up your apps and settings and configure itself, it would be done. But I Googled it, and it seems to be a hotly debated subject.
Those that swear by it claim that whenever you start fresh or flash a new rom, it takes anywhere from one to a few battery cycles before the kernel calms down. Perhaps it is doing some sort of internal calibration based on your battery life and system demands or something like that. The theory seems to be that the Kernel doesn't allow the CPU to fully doze until it is done with this process, which sometimes takes days. I don't know, but the more I read about it, the more it sort of started sound plausible. When I got the phone, I tried out some things on it myself without a SIM card first, just to make sure everything on it checked out before giving it to the wife. Then, I did a hard reset, popped in her SIM card and let it do its thing. That's when we realized battery life was pretty terrible, as after 10-12 hours she already needed to charge... and this was on the 4100mah perfine!
I tried another hard reset, and when that didn't fix it, I decided it was time to root and see if I could get to the bottom of the bad battery. It seemed the kernel was where a lot of it currently went according to battery stat apps. After downgrading my H918 to Nougat so I could install TWRP, I promptly flashed Alpha Omega Oreo 20H and restored her apps. Turns out the next morning we couldn't sync her smartwatch, somehow we broke bluetooth (going into BT settings would crash the phone everytime). So weird, and while we were at it the battery life still wasn't great. So I did a hard reset that evening and found that even with nothing installed, BT was borked. (looking back at it, I think I should have flashed an Oreo rom like the stock 20H rooted first, and THEN the AO rom. I think going straight from nougat might have led to a driver mismatch or something)
Anyway, after that didn't work I flashed the stock rooted 20H rom, and lo and behold bluetooth and everything else is working again! But the battery has been bad all along and is still doing its generally suckiness thing.
BUT... as someone pointed out, if this kernel settle thing is real, I've been pretty much flashing and resetting this thing every other day. If roms need to "settle" first (still a debatable subject), than I never really gave it a chance yet and that's why I'm constantly seeing battery drain from things like Kernel even on different roms! And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
All I know is I'm going to give this a couple of days before deciding on a plan B. Seems too simple to be the reason, but hey- I'm desperate.
Dishe said:
I did my homework first and got the Perfine from Amazon, not a no-name junk battery. When I couldn't fit it without removing the sticker, the seller was really helpful and actually offered to replace it after checking first that it fit in *THEIR* V20 at the factory. Really solid customer support. And according to Accubattery, it really is the capacity it says. Or at least within 99% of it (I think it estimated 4080 or something like that). So I don't think that's the issue.
That's actually really interesting- I did take apart the phone to do the thermal mod thing (wiped off the dried up pink gunk and put a thermal pad there), but it seemed pretty clean otherwise inside when I did. How on earth did you figure out that was the problem?
After speaking with some folks on Telegram, Reddit, and other corners of the internet, I have a different theory. A bunch of people told me to let the rom "settle", that battery life is never good after a fresh format or new rom flash. Honestly, the critical thinker in me says that sounds like nonsense. I've never heard of this before and I've been flashing roms for the better half of a decade. I'd think after it takes the time the load up your apps and settings and configure itself, it would be done. But I Googled it, and it seems to be a hotly debated subject.
Those that swear by it claim that whenever you start fresh or flash a new rom, it takes anywhere from one to a few battery cycles before the kernel calms down. Perhaps it is doing some sort of internal calibration based on your battery life and system demands or something like that. The theory seems to be that the Kernel doesn't allow the CPU to fully doze until it is done with this process, which sometimes takes days. I don't know, but the more I read about it, the more it sort of started sound plausible. When I got the phone, I tried out some things on it myself without a SIM card first, just to make sure everything on it checked out before giving it to the wife. Then, I did a hard reset, popped in her SIM card and let it do its thing. That's when we realized battery life was pretty terrible, as after 10-12 hours she already needed to charge... and this was on the 4100mah perfine!
I tried another hard reset, and when that didn't fix it, I decided it was time to root and see if I could get to the bottom of the bad battery. It seemed the kernel was where a lot of it currently went according to battery stat apps. After downgrading my H918 to Nougat so I could install TWRP, I promptly flashed Alpha Omega Oreo 20H and restored her apps. Turns out the next morning we couldn't sync her smartwatch, somehow we broke bluetooth (going into BT settings would crash the phone everytime). So weird, and while we were at it the battery life still wasn't great. So I did a hard reset that evening and found that even with nothing installed, BT was borked. (looking back at it, I think I should have flashed an Oreo rom like the stock 20H rooted first, and THEN the AO rom. I think going straight from nougat might have led to a driver mismatch or something)
Anyway, after that didn't work I flashed the stock rooted 20H rom, and lo and behold bluetooth and everything else is working again! But the battery has been bad all along and is still doing its generally suckiness thing.
BUT... as someone pointed out, if this kernel settle thing is real, I've been pretty much flashing and resetting this thing every other day. If roms need to "settle" first (still a debatable subject), than I never really gave it a chance yet and that's why I'm constantly seeing battery drain from things like Kernel even on different roms! And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
All I know is I'm going to give this a couple of days before deciding on a plan B. Seems too simple to be the reason, but hey- I'm desperate.
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Ive experienced ROMs settling in and battery stabilizing after a few days. But this was pretty far back with the HTC M7 and M8. Most modern phone's I've flashed pretty well settled in within the first few hours. The battery life on this phone was never amazing. It was good to just Ok for most when it was new.
If you flashed the stock rooted rom and still had bad battery life, I still suspect the battery itself. I still recommend one of the battery I listed earlier. If the perfine didn't work out try a different one.
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clsA said:
Ive experienced ROMs settling in and battery stabilizing after a few days. But this was pretty far back with the HTC M7 and M8. Most modern phone's I've flashed pretty well settled in within the first few hours. The battery life on this phone was never amazing. It was good to just Ok for most when it was new.
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Right, with the stock 3200mah battery. With the Perfine 4100, a lot of reports are saying 6-7 hours SOT or at least a full day of regular use. That's good enough, really. Mine is dying at half of that. I'm wondering if I have faulty hardware. I could put the stock battery back in and see if it dies much sooner.
I'm actually wondering if someone can check their mA use per hour with the screen on vs off, and I can see if the numbers make sense on mine. Accubattery is pretty good at the math.
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And @pistacios, is it possible that you were having a kernel do the same thing since it was just reset and it just so happened to be that when it calibrated itself you thought you had fixed it by cleaning out the USB port?
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Phone was up and running for 2 weeks, so it wasn't due to fresh reset.
GSAM battery monitor showed kennel wakelock, something about USB OTG in the top of the list, so I figured the port was my first check for a problem, and it was. It wasn't obvious that there was dirt or foreign matter in there, because it looked clean. But sure enough, after the light brushing with 94% alcohol, the problem disappeared.
I'm not saying this is definitely your problem, just throwing it out there.

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