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I am having some issues, and hopefully you all can help. Btw, I did try reinstalling it with a full wipe again. Anyway, the issues I am having is pretty fast battery drain, and my notification led doesn't go off when I get a message or text. What can I do to fix these issues ?
Thanks.
Help please
I have had my phone since day one, and I must be the only one who has neveer ever used the notification led. I seriously never paid attention. as far as battery, i found bus z to have fantastic life with ziggys 3/11 bfs wo havs, ocd to 1.114. Check your brightness settings, i run about 25%, and do you have gps on all the time, are you using bt all the time. this is the most stable rom ive ever used.
donnyp1 said:
I have had my phone since day one, and I must be the only one who has neveer ever used the notification led. I seriously never paid attention. as far as battery, i found bus z to have fantastic life with ziggys 3/11 bfs wo havs, ocd to 1.114. Check your brightness settings, i run about 25%, and do you have gps on all the time, are you using bt all the time. this is the most stable rom ive ever used.
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No gps on, no 3rd party apps, no bt on. I just re flashed and my battery was charged to 100% and it dropped to 80% while phone was on idle. What kernel
are you using?? Also are you on version 6.2?
I think the notification led is an issue with z roms, when I've flashed them in the past I use the app blink to get it working again.
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Battery drain
Mrhorology said:
I am having some issues, and hopefully you all can help. Btw, I did try reinstalling it with a full wipe again. Anyway, the issues I am having is pretty fast battery drain, and my notification led doesn't go off when I get a message or text. What can I do to fix these issues ?
Thanks.
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I also am having very fast battery drain. I dropped brightness to 50% and I tihnk I have had GPS going all the time. I will fix that now. I also want to know should I be using Version 3.0 >>>> Download or Version 2.2 >> Download
I know that sounds like a dumb question but as far as dates go it looks like 2.2 is the latest.
It "doesn't matter" which version you use depending on what you want as both are essentially the same minus a few, subtle differences. Nils provides several battery saving tips in the first page of both roms.
Nils Business Gingersense 3.0 v2.2 is based on Sense 3.0 thus it is more resource heavy. I personally use this rom and notice more battery life (as with any rom I use) when I don't use 3g. Not everyone is in my situation but I'm a grad student and I spend a good chunk of time at home so I primarily use wifi and extend battery life.
Nils Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0 v3.0 is a mix of Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.0. It may be more toward you're liking if you can deal without several Sense 3.0 elements like widgets and rotating home screen.
What is it you do when you notice poor battery life? Also, ate you comparing your battery life to an AOSP rom?
Since I can't post in the dev thread yet....
I've had the ROM for a couple weeks with few issues. I am noticing problems with the camera saving pictures. Sometimes it's fine, other times the images don't show up for several minutes, then today, several never showed up in the gallery. Just looking through the gallery, sometimes older pictures show an error, or on some occasions, duplicate. The image never sharpens on zoom as it used to either. Tried a reboot and fixing permissions to no avail. Is there a known issue with the gallery in GB or with Sense 3 on these phones?
MyBrainHurts said:
Since I can't post in the dev thread yet....
I've had the ROM for a couple weeks with few issues. I am noticing problems with the camera saving pictures. Sometimes it's fine, other times the images don't show up for several minutes, then today, several never showed up in the gallery. Just looking through the gallery, sometimes older pictures show an error, or on some occasions, duplicate. The image never sharpens on zoom as it used to either. Tried a reboot and fixing permissions to no avail. Is there a known issue with the gallery in GB or with Sense 3 on these phones?
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Save to the SD card since there is no guarentee it wil save to internal
The man, himself!
Big fan here, NilsP. Thank you!
Regarding battery life, I've been running this ROM for a couple of weeks and am getting good battery life, but I spend most of the day on WiFi (WiFi sleep policy = Never). I use the kernel included in the ROM and the stock radio.
Go in Settings > About Phone > Battery > Battery Use, then click on the battery graph. Check the line at the bottom that says Awake and compare it to Screen On. Your phone should not be awake constantly when the screen is off. If it is, then something is preventing your phone from sleeping. You can use an app like System Panel to monitor apps and figure out which is the culprit. This has helped me identify battery-hogging apps.
After flashing from 2.2 to 2.3 my available memory has gone from 130 to about 80 something. I don't know what i'm doing wrong here. Also I don't have anatase as an option in setcpu. any help errors be greatly appreciated. I love the ROM and can't wait to see 3.5.
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I think the fast battery drain is not really the battery draining that fast. When I flashed this ROM, I had to wipe the battery stats and it slowed the drain amount down. At 1st I was losing like 10% every 10 minutes till I hit about 40% then it would hang there for most of the day. after wiping the stats it's a more accurate slow drain.
Recalibrating Your Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
Hope this helps, if this is not the problem then it's because I suck, but it did help my situation.
I hate to make a thread like this, but it seems that this is kinda of those "everyone already knows this" or similar question that does not get brought up.
Anyway:
I decided to revert from genokolar's CM7 to stock Froyo firmware (functionality and hopefully battery life reasons, just one was enough of reason)
I found a update firmware in huawei's site for 2.2.2 Froyo, it was two apps in dload folder I had to boot into volume up+down+power boot mode, prior to this I had wiped EVERYTHING I could in clockworkmod, and after the update and few reboots, the system seems to be in working order. Even my recovery image is replaced with stock one now.
I know the CM7 port in question had some kernel modifications - especially ones affecting to CPU clocks, that in hand may be stuff affecting battery in negative way, and also imposing possible problems with stock system - does the stock 2.2.2 update also write in the stock kernel? If yes, thank you, I will be relieved. if not, then I need to figure some back plan.
P.s. waiting official gingerbread as is everyone else. Bug reports from many people about the official beta was one reason I went to stock froyo for now.
Thanks!
Yes it does. Or it has for me.
If I understand you correctly, you got worse battery-life with CM7 than you had with stock firmware?
I nearly doubled the battery-life going from stock f/w to oxygen, right now on MIUI and on my second day without charging
julle131 said:
Yes it does. Or it has for me.
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Thanks. If so I then do not need to find way to install the kernel from huawei downloads just to know will the battery life increase.
HFZenon said:
If I understand you correctly, you got worse battery-life with CM7 than you had with stock firmware?
I nearly doubled the battery-life going from stock f/w to oxygen, right now on MIUI and on my second day without charging
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Well, It is combination of functional issues, general feel that the system may not work like intended, and to experiment will the battery life increase. Generally I looked the ROM selection for while but there seemed to be quite wide array of bug reports for each what I did not want to buy into. Unless there is some widely accepted strong recommendation for system - thanks for the input though.
Battery life can have a huge difference between phones. Also how much you use it has effect. I have better battery life in stock too i have used all rom except the new ics ones.
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julle131 said:
Battery life can have a huge difference between phones. Also how much you use it has effect. I have better battery life in stock too i have used all rom except the new ics ones.
Sent from my battlefield 3 using origin.
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Yeah, from tests I hear if something, battery life in Hussein is quite great, at least in stock manner.
And my first problem basically was first night after installing CM7 and leaving phone, screen off idle, not charging, and during that 6 or so hours of idle, with wifi and connections turned off, my battery had been drained to half when I woke up and checked the clock.
Thanks tho. Not to say the ROM development are bad, opposite, they bring what people want, and already done better work at customized gingerbread builds for this device than Hussein with their betas. To me the battery life just is more crucial than the features of both 2.3 and the customized ROM.
also, thanks.
-sent from the darn x5, in lying position and tired as what
Disclaimer
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone and/or any consequences from your phone being bricked, exploding in your face etc etc etc... You are expected to read the full description and use your brains to process this information, before even touching your phone. Assumed is that you know how to flash using CWM.
Whining that you disagree to remove bloat is not appreciated; If you want to keep your phone bloated for whatever reason, you are at the wrong thread. Feedback should be substantiated and reproducible, not a ventilation of your bottom.
Context
The intention of this thread is to set an approach how to minimize the battery consumption when you are NOT using your device, e.g. when you are at work, sleeping, at some place that does not allow you to recharge, etc. This guide explains how to thoroughly remove stuff that you probably do not need, something that certainly will not affect your battery life in a negative way. The approach is based on the ROMCleaner script, which was extended a bit. Whether it is necessary to remove all the stuff as described, is debatable - nevertheless it is an approach that works for me, otherwise I would not be posting it.
Because a lot of people replied with phrases like "this is bullsh*t", let me state the following: This approach is in no way a guarantee that you will actually achieve battery life longer than 2 seconds after a full recharge. Neither is it a part of the bible, it is merely the approach I followed to prolong the battery life of my device - which I like to share with you. If you are still hating, wonder yourself: "What have I contributed lately?". In any case, at least try it out yourself before drawing your conclusion beforehand and polluting this thread.
The second discussion point is whether the battery should last longer than 1 day. According to many, you are not using your device properly if you would like this to be the case. My answer is simple: If you have no such desire, move along. If you do, like I do, this topic might be of some worth to you.
Furthermore, I honestly do not understand statements like '2-3-4-5 days is impossible' on one battery charge. If you are convinced that Jesus will return again, please do so, but give other people the space to actually find out whether it is the case for themselves.
Some Introduction...
Have you been annoying your ass of because your battery is drained within a day, without even using the phone while at work? I certainly have. Coming from a SGS1, which used to serve me at least 3 days on one charge, I got instant diarrhea from the battery life of the stock SGS3 firmware.
Then I downloaded a ROM, stripped everything unneeded and more and finally got a battery life of approx 3 - 4 days. However, because I had ripped a ROM apart, which was a manual operation, updating became quite time-intensive. Therefore I also did not update, until the recent JB leaks. So this time I though: Lets make a script to do it for me, in order to make updates possible in an easy way. Then I only have to run the clean-script after an update.
After some testing, I am finally satisfied with my device again - Check out the screenshots. The results are achieved while having wifi constantly on, using google sync and whatsapp. The screenshots are based on Wanamlite XXDLI7; The first shows the battery usage during a night, the second during a day of light phone usage. I will post another screenshot when the battery is drained completely.
What to expect and trade-offs
After completing this procedure you can expect significant increase of battery life when the phone is idle. If you are using the phone actively all day long, then this approach might not be of much worth to you. People who do not have time to play with the phone all day, e.g. because they work during the day, will probably find this most useful. The cleaning of your rom will remove about 70% of the apps/widgets that come by default, therefore it is wise to check whether you will not lose apps/widgets that are valuable to you. You are still free to modify the "script" according to your need/desire.
So what do we need?
A DEODEXED Stock-based ROM, I prefer wanamlite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705866
ROMCleaner - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827817
The attached ROMCleaner_user.txt will sustain default samsung browser, calendar, email and messaging. (untested)
The attached ROMCleaner_user_jb-apps.txt expects you to replace the JellyBean apps discussed next. Beware that the stock browser, calendar and email are not tested by me and could drain your battery faster.
Because I had some issues that ROMCleaner would not read the ROMCleaner_user.txt, I had to integrate the file into the ROMCleaner package. To do this, you can download the ROMCleaner package and replace META-INF\com\google\android\romcleaner\ROMCleaner.txt in the zip by the file you just downloaded.
Packages to restore some stuff ^^
If you have chosen for the JellyBean apps package (jbapps-avdaga.zip) you will get:
JellyBean browser + calendar ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797109
Inverted JellyBean apps: email and messaging ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780559
In case you want Samsung Apps store for free fancy games, get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861409
Got the packages, whats next?
Put all files on your phone, reboot to CWM.
Make a backup of your current system, smart monkey.
Flash the JellyBean ROM of your prefrence if you have not already. (If you come from ICS, wiping your data guarantees best results).
"Flash" the ROMCleaner script, either by using ROMCleaner_user.txt approach, or integrating the file.
If necessary, flash the provided JellyBeans apps package and Samsung Apps package.
Reboot and enjoy your awesome battery.
Thanks to
Wanam for his awesome ROM.
Patrics83 and others for ROMCleaner.
Temasek and CyanogenMod team for proper Android apps.
All others I forgot.
Interesting Posts
flypubec said:
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
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>> If you like to keep all samsung stuff, this indeed is probably a better approach.
manemzjum said:
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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>> In the screenshot you can see the mobile network signal.
Nice!
I've been on Stock-rooted since I got the device. I'm definitely going to try this out.
I use my phone plenty, doubt I'd be able to get 5 days out of it, but we'll see.
Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
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Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
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Cannot promise that, but you can compare the list of removed apps in ROMCleaner.txt
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
DorEzo said:
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
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It should, make a backup and try for yourself. Do take into consideration that you might need the default ICS apps or simply use the ROMCleaner_user.txt, not the JB one.
yellowbiz said:
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
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The first image is supposed to show how it performs when idle, the second is after a day of usage. Primarily used it for some messaging and calls though, however the main point is that the battery is not drained when not using the phone. When I used a stock rom the battery was depleted for 50% after half a day without me even touching the device :-\
Of course if you use the phone normally the battery will be depleted in 3-4 days, like i mentioned in the intro.
I know how to get years of battery life, charge your phone to 100%, take the battery out for at least 2 years, and it should have some life left in it, you must make sure you don't put the battery in for at least 2 years.
What are you guys whining about..if it can improve your battery life and remove the apps that you dont need, why not? You should be thankfull that people put their work in such things in their free time.
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henrybravo said:
Yay, let's remove a bunch of features from the phone so that when you're not using it at all, you can get 5 days of battery life! :silly: Your claim of "normal" usage equaling 3-4 days is pretty unrealistic. Battery usage is subjective with thousands of variables, which makes lofty claims of battery life completely pointless.
Nearly all of your battery life improvements are just doing step #1.
You're using a rooted and tweaked stock ROM with a tweaked kernel. Just by doing this, you're going to get much better battery life versus stock ROM. Nothing new to see here. Removing what little other "bloat" that Wanam left in the ROM by removing a bunch of apk's (that don't run anyway unless you launch them) and replacing a few ICS apps with JB versions will only offer a very small improvement.
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Please install any stock-based ROM and check the services that are running in the background - without you even know you had them. There is a lot of garbage coming in all stock-based roms, and I really do not understand the problem of removing stuff you do not use; Morever, I think this is something people should do in all apsects of life; that is removing sh*t you do not use.
I conclude your assertions are based on thin air, as you did not even take the time to test this approach. I have spent quite some time testing stuff out and posting my observations here - so please do not post if you have nothing constructive or reproducible to say.
Last thing: I do not replace ICS apps with JB, this stuff was tested on a JB rom - but you knew already because you read the full post
so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
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so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
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Besides changing some samsung apps for CM10 ones, that is it indeed. Though the debloating is more thorough than proposed by others.
Ok, thanks,, just wanted to know exactly what the script did, prefer my own debloating and tweaking, but good for newcomers.
there are also people that are not normal and want to use their phones on trips or in situations when they have no charging opportunities
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
Iffay said:
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
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It should work on any stock-based rom, also omega.
My thoughts...really.
I don't wanna sound rude, yet i had to agree with some when they say "buy a Nokia (old one of course" or just "disconnet for one or two years".
It's virtually impossible with the kind of gadgets we have these days any battery last more than 1 day.
I've made my own mods and roms from scratch in recent past for X10, so u may consider at least that i known what i'm talking about.
The only way, no mather witch brand you like or believe its the best, is by f#@king your screen. Period. That is the main reason why every phone just last 1 day with "normal" use.
If you've payed attention i've used "normal" expression witch means phone, mail, sync and didn't wrote "heavy use" that will include music, YouTube, videos, etc.
Like i said. I've made my own work in the past and still do some minor (?) changes and i must say this: i'm glad if my phone last one working day from 7AM till 23PM. Yes! Working day, that's why i dont't develop anything.
If you or anyone else state that your/his phone had better battery life than this i make two considerations:
1. You're (not you in particular) a liar, or;
2. You simply don't use your phone as you can.
If you dont consider that you belong at the first consideration than..."buy a Nokia..."
Another thought:
You just bought this (or similar) phone for a status matter or money it's something that's really cheap for you (another 2nd choice).
Like i said...just my 2 cents.
Cheers
R.
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No way you have devised a way for your phone not to use battery while not using it
What's your next project you gonna design a wireless device that can change my tv station using infer red lasers
Oh wait both of these already exist
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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Hi! I got my MX couple of months ago, and I can tell I love it. Anyways the only things I wasnt happy with were the battery life and reception, and so I updated my phone's flyme os yesterday. (from 1.0.3 to 1.1.1)
I assumed the update would fix the issues ( as I think it did for the reception ) but the battery seems to be even more horrible after the update.
It seems that after the update my MX didnt even completely charge up. I put my phone on the charger at around 2:30 and unplugged it at 13:30, so it was on power for about 11 hours, but it didnt even charge itself completely in addition to the fact that it stopped actually charging at around 8 o clock as we can clearly see from the "today" screenshot.
Then comparing it to the "yesterday" screenshot with 1.0.3 we can tell it charged itself up completely.
Ive got the new 2core model with the updated 1700 mah battery (which should have the best battery life of all of the mx models) and this makes me wonder what is the battery like on the other mx's if this is normal. And yes my phone was showing the charging animation on the screen during the time I mentioned earlier in the message.
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my batterylife got perfect with 1.1.3 after i flashed the fw twice with clearing data
crimsonmeizu said:
my batterylife got perfect with 1.1.3 after i flashed the fw twice with clearing data
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try this right away. Flyme will backup all data, right?
Except apps. If you have it enabled.
1.0.3 here, quad core model, my battery is fine, gets me over a day with normal use.
However I admit that it could be better.
Its also well known that 1.1.1 contained a bug that ate battery, so stay away from that firmware.
I didn't test 1.1.3 yet.
MrColdbird said:
1.0.3 here, quad core model, my battery is fine, gets me over a day with normal use.
However I admit that it could be better.
Its also well known that 1.1.1 contained a bug that ate battery, so stay away from that firmware.
I didn't test 1.1.3 yet.
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Thanks for the info. Im currently on 1.1.3 and the battery seems even worse than it was. I really dont know what to do - the battery runs out in just couple of hours.
Hows your reception? Do you get good speeds all the time ? Did the update have effect on that? Mines horrible.. ;s
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Try to restore as less as possible. Disable WiFi never sleeps.
crimsonmeizu said:
Try to restore as less as possible. Disable WiFi never sleeps.
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Restore, wifi never sleeps, what? I dont get it
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My MX arrives this week and I'll be measuring the battery carefully to see if I can't find a replacement. (Yes, I realize it's not supposed to be "user replaceable", but the teardowns confirm that it is if you've got the patience and dedication. Here's hoping there is a higher-capacity battery in the same form factor.) Apps are nice, but more juice is better.
samanen said:
Restore, wifi never sleeps, what? I dont get it
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After upgrading restore only as less as possible. Never use a full restore with titanium etc.
Disable WiFi never sleeps option.
crimsonmeizu said:
After upgrading restore only as less as possible. Never use a full restore with titanium etc.
Disable WiFi never sleeps option.
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Where can I find that option ?
And I've never heard of titanium, haha.
Settings - WiFi - menu key - Advanced
One more thing: disable sync for unnecessary accounts
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Settings - WiFi - menu key - Advanced
One more thing: disable sync for unnecessary accounts
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Huge thanks. Already disabled all sync except flyme.
1.1.5 is out, do you think I should try that? Theres no thing mentioned about battery in the changelog but there's some magic in updates sometimes, isn't there?
Hehe that's true. I use 1.1.5 and it feels pretty good.
1.1.5 is nice, however there is a bug in android terminal emulator.
The osk wont work until you change the input type setting to word based.
I also suggest prerooting the image, Ubuntu works nicely on it too.
crimsonmeizu said:
Hehe that's true. I use 1.1.5 and it feels pretty good.
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What kind of changes have you experienced? Anything with battery life ? Smoother?
MrColdbird said:
1.1.5 is nice, however there is a bug in android terminal emulator.
The osk wont work until you change the input type setting to word based.
I also suggest prerooting the image, Ubuntu works nicely on it too.
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Yeah I heard about that bug, but that's an easy fix isn't that Also never ran into the need of terminal on my MX.
There was someone on meizume forums telling he could upload a prerooted image of 1.1.5, and as I have 0 experience on how to preroot the file I wish he could do that. You see I'm a newbie - don't just tell me to do things, please tell me HOW to do the things aswell ^^,
Kedros uploaded one already. You can just fetch his.
Battery is 71mm x 35mm x Unknown Depth. If I can find a few batteries matching the length-width, I can start trying to transplant them into my MX quad core.
Please keep us updated on that.
I would love to stick a higher capacity battery in there.
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Please keep us updated on that.
I would love to stick a higher capacity battery in there.
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Yeah, Id love that too! Please keep us updated
E: Already have my phone rooted (thanks to kedros), lets keep it on topic.
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
Badgie said:
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
Badgie said:
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.
Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.
I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
Badgie said:
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
Mashed_Potatoes said:
over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
BMXJeff said:
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.
simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..
simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?