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NOTE is one of best Gaming Android phone to date, IMO... i mean, 5" is most ideal for gaming IMO, controls on each side doesnt intrfere on the game play because of the screen size, Loudspeaker is loud, not to mention the AMOLED display... i was playing Shadowgun an hour ago, its just awesome...
Couldn't agree with you more.
I am having a similar experience.
Great phone & mini Tab.
i have a feeling that itll be the next HD2...
Strange that you mentioned it. I have an old HTC HD2 which I am keeping it.
It is a great phone and I am still using it for its GPS capability. Using Garmin and Papago GPS for local navigation. We have very detailed maps and POI for my country [supplied FOC by a very dedicated group of mappers called MFM].
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NOTE is one of best Gaming Android phone to date, IMO... i mean, 5" is most ideal for gaming IMO, controls on each side doesnt intrfere on the game play because of the screen size, Loudspeaker is loud, not to mention the AMOLED display... i was playing Shadowgun an hour ago, its just awesome...
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I think that SE Xperia Play is better suited for games. It has a REAL joystick that is always with you.
I bought SonicCD and loaded it up on my Note. It works perfect and the Notes screen runs it beautifully. Then I loaded it up on my old Desire and, boy, was there a huge difference. The Notes screen definately won hands down.
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I think that SE Xperia Play is better suited for games. It has a REAL joystick that is always with you.
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it doesnt have a real analog stick. it uses a touch pad instead.
the xperia play design was good, but it was let down by the hardware. like really, 1ghz single core snapdragon with adreno 205... launching after their competitors release dual core phones with better gpus... and charging just as much as the dual core phones...
hopefully with sony ericcson being consumed by sony, it will lead to an xperia play2 with better internals.
gaming phones next year will be much more interesting. 28nm manufacturing means much more performance at much lower temps with better battery life. im keen on seeing tegra 3+ vs the quadcore 2.5ghz snap dragon...
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it doesnt have a real analog stick. it uses a touch pad instead.
the xperia play design was good, but it was let down by the hardware. like really, 1ghz single core snapdragon with adreno 205... launching after their competitors release dual core phones with better gpus... and charging just as much as the dual core phones...
hopefully with sony ericcson being consumed by sony, it will lead to an xperia play2 with better internals.
gaming phones next year will be much more interesting. 28nm manufacturing means much more performance at much lower temps with better battery life. im keen on seeing tegra 3+ vs the quadcore 2.5ghz snap dragon...
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Can't wait for the Tegra 3 or the new Exynos chipsets that are being released.
The quadcore Snapdragon isn't going to be good if it's anything like it's dual core 1.5ghz predeccesor.
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Im not big into games, but Shadowgun is sick. I cant believe how awesome it is on the Note.
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Im not big into games, but Shadowgun is sick. I cant believe how awesome it is on the Note.
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I got Backstab HD and Asphalt 6 during the 10 days special for my Xoom, but notice they aren't available for the Note. I wonder if spoofing the SGSII would work to at least get them installed and data downloaded?
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I got Backstab HD and Asphalt 6 during the 10 days special for my Xoom, but notice they aren't available for the Note. I wonder if spoofing the SGSII would work to at least get them installed and data downloaded?
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Asphalt 6 is available for free in the Samsung App Market
It's a shame there's no good DS emulators around - the screen is almost exactly the size of the two DS screens, plus it has the stylus and the microphone...
Nonetheless the Note is the best mobile gaming experience I've had in twenty years of playing video games. The screen size is perfect, and so many games play so much better with the stylus. The battery lasts longer than my 3DS, and though I haven't got a Vita yet I imagine it's a similar situation there. MHL means I can play most games on large screens if I want. Android means I can emulate all my favourite old games in one convenient package. And the gaming ecosystem for Android is getting really great right now, most games are seeing release on the Market instead of just iOS. The Note is specced to be right at the forefront of that right now, hindered only (slightly) by its non-Tegra-ness.
Seriously, the gaming utility of this device alone justifies the purchase for me, not even considering its myriad other functions. And today Samsung announces that it's first in line for ICS! I know I'm ranting, but I just couldn't be happier with this phone.
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Has anyone gotten SimCity Deluxe to work? I have the NA version, and it just hangs at downloading with "NaN 0mb / 0mb" (looks like it tried to do some dividing by 0 hehe).
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It's a shame there's no good DS emulators around - the screen is almost exactly the size of the two DS screens, plus it has the stylus and the microphone...
Nonetheless the Note is the best mobile gaming experience I've had in twenty years of playing video games. The screen size is perfect, and so many games play so much better with the stylus. The battery lasts longer than my 3DS, and though I haven't got a Vita yet I imagine it's a similar situation there. MHL means I can play most games on large screens if I want. Android means I can emulate all my favourite old games in one convenient package. And the gaming ecosystem for Android is getting really great right now, most games are seeing release on the Market instead of just iOS. The Note is specced to be right at the forefront of that right now, hindered only (slightly) by its non-Tegra-ness.
Seriously, the gaming utility of this device alone justifies the purchase for me, not even considering its myriad other functions. And today Samsung announces that it's first in line for ICS! I know I'm ranting, but I just couldn't be happier with this phone.
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thats the thing i found disappointing about the vita. the psp had the option of being connected to a TV via component out, yet the vita does not have hdmi. i mean sure, it does have dual touchpads which could make it a bit clunky, but i was really expecting a home console in your pocket. plus, im not happy that sony decided to disable the fourth core of the vita at the last moment. you cant advertise its a quad core when one of the cores is disabled...
just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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As good as any other device I suppose :3 everything on android can be played well on a galaxy nexus let alone the note.
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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.
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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.
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hmmm , and are these tegra requiring games too many ?!
i mean, how much is the percentage of tegra only games ?
i beleive th note has mali 400 graphics like the note 2 compared to GPUs like the tegra 3 on nexus 7. So far i havent done much gaming on it other than 3d scores on quadrant(yeah yeah i know
you can check tegra zone for the game list but half of those are not even THD anymore ^_^v
I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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What is hardcore gaming to you?
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What is hardcore gaming to you?
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especially on a tablet...
Suppose your definition of "hardcore gaming" is warranted as mobile isn't known for it lol
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I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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nexus 10 isn't available in my country :'(
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hmm yea the word actually was chosen wrong xD
i just mean playing any new more demanding games , i don't really know a lot of names now cuz i still didn't buy the thing but let's say modern combat 4 , need for speed most wanted and things like that
i'm just trying to compare the gaming on it to ipad 4 , yes i know that ipad games look a lot better , but i just need them to look good cuz everybody is telling me that customization in android is a lot cooler than the ios stability
I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
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I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
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He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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yea ECOTOX is right !
i kinda don't want to be stuck with the standard ipad looks , i want something i can play around with
its not all about games , i don't want to run EVERY GAME out there , i just want a lot of games so that when i want to play , i won't be in shortage of games , but i have many other things to do with the tab
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Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.
^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man
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He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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If you read I didn't say even once android is better, not once. I also didn't mention a single outdated device, galaxy tab or otherwise. Also iPad 3&4 don't have all effects enabled as they can't at their resolution. ONLY the iPad 2 and iphone4s/5 do (nova3 looks 800x better on the iPad 2), all others prior can't handle full effects in all games, leaving the iPad 2 which at it's resolution has resources to spare the iOS gamers tab of choice. IOS is not the most secure, that is 1000% false, and it has malware just the same regardless of jailbreaking or not. Jailbreaking taking 2 months is a short period of time and in no way substantiates iOS security. Security is a state of mind for the user, you won't feel it ever during use because it isn't possible to "feel" system security. In fact both android and iOS are worse than blackberry in regards to security from my experience so by that logic that OS is the best. Googles apps store tests apps also, you just have less time between submitting the app and approval, malware rates on the play store are very low and when they do get on are removed quickly. 3rd party stores and sites are the main sources of malware on both platforms. I don't believe in one being better or worse, they're all just different. I really don't care what you pick but don't state opinion as fact because it isn't. you stated a opinion/view, one steming from inexperience and lack of knowledge, which is fine but again don't say anything you said is fact because it isn't.
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^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man
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The note will play everything just fine, but unless you want the spen there are better options like tegra3 or the nexus 10 if you can find a way to get one on eBay or something. So my advice is unless you want the spen, go w with something like the nexus 7 or 10, or whichever tegra3 or higher based devices you can get in your country.
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Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.
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Are you in my room O.O? Lol
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Damn jay-z-s... this is the worst place for an IPad lover to make a point... (there is no point to be made anyway, lol) I am in the IT Business and I can tell you something... There is NOT a SINGLE person that I know... NOT even 1... That still thinks IPads are better than Android devices... if, if... the person tasted both devices. I can say that 99% of people (just for not saying a 100%) after using a device like a Note 2, Note 10.1... or S3... will go back to an IPhone or IPad. You just get in your hands an IPhone 5 and in your other hand a Note 2... and there is simply no comparison just by looking at it. You don't even have to do anything... don't even waste time turning them on, just look at them both for 10 seconds... and baaam... that's it. Market share for the IOS is going down at top speed, while Android's market keeps going up and up... Apple is going to have to wake up and start adding Micro SD card slots and do something really impressive with the ipads and iphones... because it will end up very bad for them... At least Microsoft now supports a full OS on their tablets... that's at least something to keep them on the market for more time... Not to be rude, but IOS in my opinion is simply a retard OS that you can just do pretty much nothing with it... With Android you can install another ROM... wow... another launcher, wow... widgets... wow... very, very customizable. With IOS... Hey... New version x.x.1... wow.... more locks! Less options! weeeeee! finally changed the settings icon after a week! Is that even possible? lol
okey thanks guys !
i'll go with the note for a few reasons
1.nexus 10 isn't available here and getting it from ebay i will pay a lot more than the price for the shipment and things like that
2.i want a 10" tablet so the nexus 7 won't be good for me cuz i want to watch movies and read stuff on a big screen
3.the s-pen and stereo speakers on the note look cool !!
so thanks again guys (Y)
I know, this is a stupid game, but I have liked it for years and continue to chase the high score. It's called "Albatross Overload" from the Yetisports series, ported to Android.
While it played smoothly on any ROM on my trusty Galaxy S3, it is jerky and unresponsive on any ROM on the S4, including stock.
It's not available on the Play Store anymore, so feel free to download it from my server:
http://bloatware.de/Penguin+Flying+android.apk
I have played around with a variety of CPU governors and I/O schedulers, but somehow it's not the real thing. Please try it and tell me whether you have found settings that make playing smooth (and gets you further than my current record of 1951,33).
Thanks!
You said it.. It's an old small game and it's most probably not optimized to work for new devices like s4.. Also you said that it's even removed from play store so it's an old unsupported game..
Good luck
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You said it.. It's an old small game and it's most probably not optimized to work for new devices like s4.. Also you said that it's even removed from play store so it's an old unsupported game..
Good luck
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That doesn't make sense. It has been removed from PlayStore probably for licensing reasons and a non-optimized app should perform worse on an older device, not better.
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That doesn't make sense. It has been removed from PlayStore probably for licensing reasons and a non-optimized app should perform worse on an older device, not better.
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No really ... Older phones has older gpu and the developer of the game has optimized it for the OLD gpu (which means it will work best for the old gpu).. it's never important if you have a newer generation of gpu if the game itself isn't optimized for it.. And I don't care for the reason of removing it from google play since the developer already stopped supporting his own game to work on newer devices ...
Good luck anyways
Forgive me for sounding insolent, but this does not make sense at all.
Unless you have a genius programmer who does all his stuff in low level assembler directly on the GPU, a 10 year old flash game ported to Android cannot be optimized to run smoother on an i9300 than it does on an i9505; it won't even know about any hardware differences through all the API layers involved.
There are so many abstraction layers between the application and the hardware that other factors play a role in understanding performance issues.
Kernel comes to mind in this case, since the most up to date kernel on the i9300 is a 3.0.* series and the one on the i9505 is at 3.4.*. Playing around with some CPU settings (governor and I/O scheduler) there are distinct differences in performance, alas none of them good enough to make a precision game run sufficiently smooth.
I am curious to learn about a truly technical explanation, but "old game, new hardware, optimized for old hardware) just isn't good enough as an acceptable explanation for performance issues.
Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile
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Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile
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Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!
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Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!
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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.
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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.
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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications
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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications
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That's some great news,but a little bad with the missing games although there's not much that helps with storage in terms of apps that can read the m.o.j.o well.So it's a major bonus to have such a fine app for it.:laugh:
Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.
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Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.
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There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?
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There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?
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This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.
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This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.
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I know it's pretty scarce at present for games i have to say that,but these newer games should be a stark warning to mad catz being as they are 4.4 kitkat only so surely they need to think about moving quicker with the impending update they promise to release.
I have just found no bluetooth headset works on it that i have can't fathom it out,on there forum they put plug in mic in headphone port tried a standalone mic as well in there but no reaction voice controll wise and no audio over bluetooth?
It is still relatively new.
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New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.
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And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-phones-tablets.html
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New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
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Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply go Guru meditate yourself.
And, it is "Amazon", not "Amazone". Please use your spell checker as you make these typing errors quite often.
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Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply to Guru meditate.
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Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just
look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the Tegra 4 is a Über
chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.
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Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the
Tegra 4 is a Über chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.
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Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.
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Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
6. No support for Tegra accelerated games (no Tegra!)
You were probably the guy who told everyone to buy a Radio Shack Coco3 at the height of the C64 era. Go away now.
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No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
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How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.
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How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.
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Here is a link to the Mojo for you to repurchase it:
http://www.amazon.com/M-O-J-O-Micro-Console-Android-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B00FM5IS48/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400013378&sr=8-1&keywords=mad+catz+mojo
Don't worry, I won't tell anyone you repurchased it after talking so much smack.
I have to say if you look at the time it took for large numbers of games to emerge on the tegra 3 specifically for a tegra 3,well then it is absolutely no surprise that it appears the same is happening with the tegra 4.It does take time,i am for one loosing patience but i am sitting here waiting none the less although i have to say venting about it as well,lol.
So it's i think more a case of kitkat fixes a lot like for shield and i am assuming with the m.o.j.o,and maybe that is why they are taking their time, not to mention the ouya everywhere project,i imagine it's going to be in preperation for a huge update which may introduce better controller compatability as well i hope it does any way we need that big time to.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
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By the way, Antutu benchmark scored 20561 on the FireTV according to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Md5_P_WDzI
I just ran Antutu on the Mojo and it scored 31552. Yeah, no....FireTV is NOT more powerful. Still waiting on your list of Snapdragon set top boxes buddy. Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
And, here is a YouTube video showing 31724 score on the Mojo, just to back up my claim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6R8HvGWy4k
Hmm, 20,000 vs 30,000. FireTV is better, eh? Bah. And, it is also NOT a games console. Amazon says so themselves
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/amazon-fire-tv-is-absolutely-not-a-game-console/1100-6418731/
If everyone listened to you, they would end up with sub-par equipment. You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.
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Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
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The mojo isn't the most powerful, especially now that steambox is coming out.. but it's the most powerful ANDROID topset box.
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You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.
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LOL Hard!.. that's funny
@AmigaWolf, please get a fireTV and let us know after a week or two how you like it... don't spam here if you don't have one.. really
I know your very demanding (from your tech), so I hope you don't buy something that's useless to you, just for the sack of saving $50
Good luck.
I have been eyeing this phone since launch and finally decided to give it a try with a $330 Amazon deal. I'm a phone collector so this is my 4th phone. I love the size and pretty much no issues except gaming. I'm a Hill Climb 2 addict and this phone drops frames and stutters very bad. I am on the 8.1 Beta and have tried tweaking in developer options but not much change. Is this just a Beta software issue? My iPhone 7, Pixel XL, V20, and heck even my Mi Max with a SD652 is way more fluid. I know this phone has had software issues since launch but I'm hoping there is hope..if not I'd rather return it even though I love the form factor. Thanks for any advice!
Honestly I don't get this phone. Hardware spec-wise it should be screaming but it just doesn't preform. Reminds me of the cheap Chinese phones.
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I have been eyeing this phone since launch and finally decided to give it a try with a $330 Amazon deal. I'm a phone collector so this is my 4th phone. I love the size and pretty much no issues except gaming. I'm a Hill Climb 2 addict and this phone drops frames and stutters very bad. I am on the 8.1 Beta and have tried tweaking in developer options but not much change. Is this just a Beta software issue? My iPhone 7, Pixel XL, V20, and heck even my Mi Max with a SD652 is way more fluid. I know this phone has had software issues since launch but I'm hoping there is hope..if not I'd rather return it even though I love the form factor. Thanks for any advice!
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Try one of the custom kernels.
I just download hill climb racing 2 and it ran flawlessly for me. I only did 3 a, but I didn't notice anything wrong. I'm using ElementalX 2.0 kernel and everything is solid.
For me gamming is pretty much rock solid , i play mc versus alot with issues, although anything that has to do with vulkan will be chooppy, the driver is not optimized and still work in progress, if you want perfect vulkan performance stay on naugat. I am also on elementalx custom kernel with max overclocks.
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For me gamming is pretty much rock solid , i play mc versus alot with issues, although anything that has to do with vulkan will be chooppy, the driver is not optimized and still work in progress, if you want perfect vulkan performance stay on naugat. I am also on elementalx custom kernel with max overclocks.
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I don't play many games.
I do play Real Racing 3.
No issues. All rendering including rear view mirror is rock solid.
Compared to my Nexus 6 which would struggle to even run Pokemon Go smooth all the time, this phone absolutely flies through anything that involves 3D.
All I know is that anything VR related, it runs well.
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I don't play many games.
I do play Real Racing 3.
No issues. All rendering including rear view mirror is rock solid.
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What does vulkan rendering have to do with real racing 3?
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What does vulkan rendering have to do with real racing 3?
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Huh? Real Racing renders various things depending on the speed of the hardware.
On lesser hardware the rearview mirrors don't get rendering.
The reflections in cars don't get rendered.
What I was saying is that all the above renders fine in RR3 on this device.