From all I have read, it sounds like the top units are the Joying Intel Sofia, the PX5-based units like Dasiata, and the Ownice C500 Octacore.
I am still having trouble understanding which unit would be best for my application as a data recorder for a track car. Specifically, I would like to be able to connect both a Bluetooth OBD2 reader and an external high-refresh-rate GPS receiver (like the QStarz or Dual units) for use with a program like Track Addict. In other words, I'm probably looking for the most fully featured Bluetooth available, ideally without too terribly much fiddling.
Along these lines, do these units recognize external USB dash mount cameras like the internal camera of a cell phone for track video?
Thanks for the help.
Bob
I have a Joying unit but while it connects to torque pro using an ODBLINK MX, it refuses to connect to my SkyPro XGPS160 GPS Receiver. Also, as far as I know no headunit has motion sensors to record acceleration, lateral G's, etc. For the track I'm using an old Nexus 7 2013. Works great with all track apps and OBD and external 10HZ GPS plus has all the sensors you could want.
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I have a pioneer head unit in the car with USB compatibility that works with iPhones, iPods and blackberry's as far as I tested, I just cant get it to work with the tablet as it would initialize MTP and the head unit would display "Device not supported".
I figure since older and newer blackberries work with my head unit, its a software on the device itself that allows that compatibility. I have WiFi access in my car and mounted the tablet for music and GPS navigation. I'd like to use the head unit to control the music while driving and using GPS, but cant seem to find the option anywhere or find applicable software that would make it work.
Any suggestions regarding this?
Does anyone know about the brand Naviskauto?XDA seems has no much about this.I'm planning to have one android head units for my VW.And accidentally got a promo code of this store from Dontpayfull.
I need GPS of course,bluetooth,iphone,ipad. .Any advice,guys?
Naivskauto Unit C250
summerof said:
Does anyone know about the brand Naviskauto?XDA seems has no much about this.I'm planning to have one android head units for my VW.And accidentally got a promo code of this store from Dontpayfull.
I need GPS of course,bluetooth,iphone,ipad. .Any advice,guys?
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This unit is the same as pumpkin RQ0255 unit. There is more information available from their support page and is directly applicable to the Naviskauto unit you have.
I installed this unit with a Metra dash kit into a 2003 G35 Sedan with Steering wheel controls (kit required) / the stock Bose amplifier (audio interface kit required) / and reverse Cam. All the functions you want are available. I assume you want to connect iphone/ipad via bluetooth , it works but the bluetooth interface for music isn't great , and maybe a 3rd party app is available. There is an "IPOD" USB connection through a 30pin connector. (Overall, music quality is very good but not as good has name brand head units for USB/Bluetooth/Radio. ) I use an Iphone 4 as an Ipod over USB, but you should be able to use a lightning convertor cable and use newer iphones/ipods. The music interface is better on USB but still falls short if you're looking for iphone/ipad useability. You can connect the head unit to a wireless hotspot on iphone/ipad or any device with this function. You can also connect via USB to a 3G dongle but the supported devices are limited, (more reading for you.)
GPS works great and the iGo Navi app provided is really good and does not require an online connection. You may need to do some more reading to get maps / poi functioning to your needs depending on your location.
It's my first android head unit install and it was flawless for me. I invested lots of time reading to extract experience from this board and others I am generally familiar with car sound systems, electronics, soldering so I was just a matter of understanding the wiring interfaces for this unit, which are standard.
I'm a newbie on Android , so I'm not experimenting with ROMs yet but there is a ton of info on what is possible with mods and replacement apps for various functions.
so, bottom line, I give the unit a 8/10 overall, but the value for money from Amazon I give it 9/10.
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This unit is the same as pumpkin RQ0255 unit. There is more information available from their support page and is directly applicable to the Naviskauto unit you have.
I installed this unit with a Metra dash kit into a 2003 G35 Sedan with Steering wheel controls (kit required) / the stock Bose amplifier (audio interface kit required) / and reverse Cam. All the functions you want are available. I assume you want to connect iphone/ipad via bluetooth , it works but the bluetooth interface for music isn't great , and maybe a 3rd party app is available. There is an "IPOD" USB connection through a 30pin connector. (Overall, music quality is very good but not as good has name brand head units for USB/Bluetooth/Radio. ) I use an Iphone 4 as an Ipod over USB, but you should be able to use a lightning convertor cable and use newer iphones/ipods. The music interface is better on USB but still falls short if you're looking for iphone/ipad useability. You can connect the head unit to a wireless hotspot on iphone/ipad or any device with this function. You can also connect via USB to a 3G dongle but the supported devices are limited, (more reading for you.)
GPS works great and the iGo Navi app provided is really good and does not require an online connection. You may need to do some more reading to get maps / poi functioning to your needs depending on your location.
It's my first android head unit install and it was flawless for me. I invested lots of time reading to extract experience from this board and others I am generally familiar with car sound systems, electronics, soldering so I was just a matter of understanding the wiring interfaces for this unit, which are standard.
I'm a newbie on Android , so I'm not experimenting with ROMs yet but there is a ton of info on what is possible with mods and replacement apps for various functions.
so, bottom line, I give the unit a 8/10 overall, but the value for money from Amazon I give it 9/10.
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Thank you for your information.You're more experienced than me as I can tell. According to the review,it seems a good choice.I will look at more and make a "experienced" choice,I think.thanks again,man.:good:
Hello everybody,
I'm searching for the best unit for Volkswagen Passat B7 (year 2012) to replace my RCD 510. What I am looking for:
- Android unit with 8'' - 10'' diagonal
- Dual channel Can-Bus - (the unit should display car events: door open, AC temperature settings, parking sensors information)
- VW car steering wheel control support
- DAB+
- Good bluetooth or integration with VW bluetooth module (Is this even possible?)
I've heard about Joying, Seicane and Dasaita and I'm not sure which one is better. Your advice or suggestions will be much appreciated and welcomed. Thank you.
Best Regards
I can hardly answer your question as it stated since I only tried (and use) Joying HU.
I've replaced my RNS-510 mostly because map updates in my region are not supported anymore. Had quite a hard time with Joying, but finally have no any doubts that would do it (change) again.
My HU is 8" with HW buttons, which helps alot: being able to switch to Navi/Radio/Home from any screen is a good thing. CAN bus works OK: climate indication, doors, outside temp, safety belts, fuel, mileage, park sensors, rear view cam, hand brake status, steering wheel controls do work. I did not buy DAB+ and had a hard time with AM/FM radio reception, but changing antenna harness (both were in Joying's direct supply) solved the problem.
BT app is much inferior to the VW factory unit, especially if you do outcoming calls when driving. Incoming calls are also first identified with bare numbers, not names - it corrects on the 2nd call.
I use Huawei E8xxx 4G modem as WiFi hotspot, Joying rear cam and Joying dashcam. All in all - it's a new world which opens to you with Android HU. I could not have something like this (and much more) on factory RNS: https://yadi.sk/i/Zg1TFzHu3PDvou
You plan to abandon RCD unit, which is not a Navi system. For those like me who had RNS Navi - you are going to miss correct tunnel/no GPS guidance and correct direction in the morning when factory Navi knows right from ignition how to make proper guidance. In 3-rd party HU there is no compass, gyros and speed sensor data which are used by a navi program (speed is available via CAN, but a navi program is not aware of it, only GPS). I still agree when VW calls it's 9 year old factory HU a "premium navi".
Sound quality can not compare to factory unit despite that brand new "digital amp" (I have "D" model), but here I am lucky - all my audio interests are in FM news radio.
I also have a Passat 2012 and a Joying Sofia 8" with HW knobs (JY VL130N2).
I am generally very pleased with this combination. Everything works except for
BT indeed is not perfect.
Dasaita units also have a good reputation here. I never had one, so I cannot tell much about those...
Hello,
Thanks for response. I'm wondering if there's a specific model from Joying that's current "the best". At the moment I'm looking at:
VW 6.0 OCTA CORE HEAD UNIT PX5 and VW NEW DIGITAL AMPLIFIER AUTORADIO ANDROID 6.0 HEAD UNIT
If anyone have any other suggestions (Dasaita, Seicane...) please dont hesitate to say. Thanks.
Regards
Do not mess with "octa PX5". The second link is OK, since the part number is DE-JY-VM130N2D - just the same I have. If you have external amp, then "D" model is not recomended, take one without "digital amp" built in - like DE-JY-VM130N2.
With that choice we have a very promising perspective, just take a look here https://forum.carjoying.com/thread-1377-current-state-of-hackishness-.html
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Do not mess with "octa PX5". The second link is OK, since the part number is DE-JY-VM130N2D - just the same I have. If you have external amp, then "D" model is not recomended, take one without "digital amp" built in - like DE-JY-VM130N2.
With that choice we have a very promising perspective, just take a look here https://forum.carjoying.com/thread-1377-current-state-of-hackishness-.html
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Why are you saying do not mess with PX5? A lot of users recomends PX5 because it is new and has unofficial support like PX3, so seems more futureproof than anything else right now.
So several years ago I did a custom install on my 500 Abarth for an Ownice C500. I was happy with the sound and display clarity, but it hasn't aged well.
I need to find a replacement for it.
Problems it has:
1) GPS wanders and dances all over the place. Can no longer lock. I have changed the GPS dongle but it doesn't work.
2) Audio has developed a background whine.
3) It reboots randomly while driving. Didn't used to do this.
In my other car, I have a Joying unit that is mostly good but has its own issues.
REQUIREMENT 1: (non negotiable) is any replacement must have full OBD2 support, including support for a high rate OBD2 dongle such as the OBDLink MX/LX. Unfortunately the Joying devices won't work with these dongles because they use newer security than the older Chinese units. I have also experienced that even with the cheap Chinese OBD2 plugs you can get for $20, they don't connect consistently. This is the primary holdup for me upgrading, I don't want to waste my money on a unit that won't let me properly use Torque Pro.
REQUIREMENT 2: Must be able to have a proper AV-IN that allows me to switch to my car's bluetooth module for calls and bypass the radio completely other than speaker output. The Ownice C500 does this fine, but the Joying in my other car does not.
REQUIREMENT 3: No 800x600 units, needs to have a resolution that works properly with modern Android software.
Built-in Dashcam like the Joying is preferable.
Any suggestions?
Hi, you got your player ? also looking for player got full obd2 support.
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Hi, you got your player ? also looking for player got full obd2 support.
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Obd2 support depends on the adapter and application, not the headunit.
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Obd2 support depends on the adapter and application, not the headunit.
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I afraid not that what happening to my case. My headunit wont connect to my obd2 but all my phones, tablets just work fine with the obd2 ?
All,
I have two of these in my commuter cars. (2007 Saturn Ion/2001 Impala)
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I commute around 100 miles a day.
I have been pretty happy with these Binize especially for the price point. I have a rear camera on both.
I use it daily for GPS, radio, my playlist (on thumbdrive), and Podcasts (Stitcher). I expect them to be a low end GPS tablet with an amp and they do that. I also have a ELM327 and the Torque app installed on the head unit.
It took some trial and error to get everything setup software wise and I was meticulous on the wiring (soldered connections/heat wrap/full install kits etc.).
They have been installed for over a year now.
Anyways I have decent size fingers and the side of the screen volume can be tricky especially in the Saturn. So I picked up one of these;
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The Remote Control unit pairs fine with my Samsung Note S10+ cell phone. It adjust my cell phones volume well and does what it should . The head unit under the Bluetooth icon under AGAMA sees the X09 Bluetooth device but does not Pair as my ELM327 does. I have deleted the ELM327 out of the Paired Devices to see if that is the issue but to no avail.
Is there any application I could download to see what is going on. Is this a issue with Android Head Units?
Are there better Remote Control Units out there to consider?
Also while we are discussing Android Head Units. What Applications or hardware do you have on yours that you find interesting?
Thanks
Chris
Included is what I am seeing...
I have same approach to those head units - low end tablet with BT, gps, mp3, video and reverse cam cappabilities.
But according to your problem with BT connection. Im not sure if bluetooth in those radios is fully functional as in other devices (for transmit files, tethering internet etc) or its just like head set - limited capability only to hands-free talk via cellphone.
But if you use it with ELM (or other CAN decoder), than it should work with SWC also...
Maybe try without Agama launher? Use stock software for test
I think that there are better options for steering wheel control. At the back of your radio there should be two additional wires, marked as KEY 1 & 2. They are designed to be used with resistance-based controls.
Do a refund with that you already have (with BT) and buy this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remote-Control-Button-Car-Audio-Steering-Wheel-Wireless-Bluetooth-Universal/302763993342?_trkparms=aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=225074&meid=f4ff115cb3864f40aac6e56b787db63c&pid=100623&rk=5&rkt=5&mehot=pp&sd=264013200753&itm=302763993342&pmt=1&noa=1&pg=2047675&algv=DefaultOrganic&brand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
or
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-...rand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
But before that make sure that you have key1 & key2 (or SWC 1 & 2,)
It also uses BT communication, but not this one in head unit. It has own BT module which you solder to harness and sends resistive signals via key 1&2 wires.
Personally I dont use wireless steering wheel control, but instead i bought controller like this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32997030091.html
cheap, reliable, easy to install and doesnt require batteries to run.
If you need more buttons you can install the second on other side
here photos of my bmw x5 01.