Replacement for Ownice C500 - Suggestions? Must have full OBD2 support - Android Head-Units

So several years ago I did a custom install on my 500 Abarth for an Ownice C500. I was happy with the sound and display clarity, but it hasn't aged well.
I need to find a replacement for it.
Problems it has:
1) GPS wanders and dances all over the place. Can no longer lock. I have changed the GPS dongle but it doesn't work.
2) Audio has developed a background whine.
3) It reboots randomly while driving. Didn't used to do this.
In my other car, I have a Joying unit that is mostly good but has its own issues.
REQUIREMENT 1: (non negotiable) is any replacement must have full OBD2 support, including support for a high rate OBD2 dongle such as the OBDLink MX/LX. Unfortunately the Joying devices won't work with these dongles because they use newer security than the older Chinese units. I have also experienced that even with the cheap Chinese OBD2 plugs you can get for $20, they don't connect consistently. This is the primary holdup for me upgrading, I don't want to waste my money on a unit that won't let me properly use Torque Pro.
REQUIREMENT 2: Must be able to have a proper AV-IN that allows me to switch to my car's bluetooth module for calls and bypass the radio completely other than speaker output. The Ownice C500 does this fine, but the Joying in my other car does not.
REQUIREMENT 3: No 800x600 units, needs to have a resolution that works properly with modern Android software.
Built-in Dashcam like the Joying is preferable.
Any suggestions?

Hi, you got your player ? also looking for player got full obd2 support.

efan94 said:
Hi, you got your player ? also looking for player got full obd2 support.
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Obd2 support depends on the adapter and application, not the headunit.

marchnz said:
Obd2 support depends on the adapter and application, not the headunit.
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I afraid not that what happening to my case. My headunit wont connect to my obd2 but all my phones, tablets just work fine with the obd2 ?

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How is the head unit of a brand called Naviskauto?

Does anyone know about the brand Naviskauto?XDA seems has no much about this.I'm planning to have one android head units for my VW.And accidentally got a promo code of this store from Dontpayfull.
I need GPS of course,bluetooth,iphone,ipad. .Any advice,guys?
Naivskauto Unit C250
summerof said:
Does anyone know about the brand Naviskauto?XDA seems has no much about this.I'm planning to have one android head units for my VW.And accidentally got a promo code of this store from Dontpayfull.
I need GPS of course,bluetooth,iphone,ipad. .Any advice,guys?
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This unit is the same as pumpkin RQ0255 unit. There is more information available from their support page and is directly applicable to the Naviskauto unit you have.
I installed this unit with a Metra dash kit into a 2003 G35 Sedan with Steering wheel controls (kit required) / the stock Bose amplifier (audio interface kit required) / and reverse Cam. All the functions you want are available. I assume you want to connect iphone/ipad via bluetooth , it works but the bluetooth interface for music isn't great , and maybe a 3rd party app is available. There is an "IPOD" USB connection through a 30pin connector. (Overall, music quality is very good but not as good has name brand head units for USB/Bluetooth/Radio. ) I use an Iphone 4 as an Ipod over USB, but you should be able to use a lightning convertor cable and use newer iphones/ipods. The music interface is better on USB but still falls short if you're looking for iphone/ipad useability. You can connect the head unit to a wireless hotspot on iphone/ipad or any device with this function. You can also connect via USB to a 3G dongle but the supported devices are limited, (more reading for you.)
GPS works great and the iGo Navi app provided is really good and does not require an online connection. You may need to do some more reading to get maps / poi functioning to your needs depending on your location.
It's my first android head unit install and it was flawless for me. I invested lots of time reading to extract experience from this board and others I am generally familiar with car sound systems, electronics, soldering so I was just a matter of understanding the wiring interfaces for this unit, which are standard.
I'm a newbie on Android , so I'm not experimenting with ROMs yet but there is a ton of info on what is possible with mods and replacement apps for various functions.
so, bottom line, I give the unit a 8/10 overall, but the value for money from Amazon I give it 9/10.
Chieftan123 said:
This unit is the same as pumpkin RQ0255 unit. There is more information available from their support page and is directly applicable to the Naviskauto unit you have.
I installed this unit with a Metra dash kit into a 2003 G35 Sedan with Steering wheel controls (kit required) / the stock Bose amplifier (audio interface kit required) / and reverse Cam. All the functions you want are available. I assume you want to connect iphone/ipad via bluetooth , it works but the bluetooth interface for music isn't great , and maybe a 3rd party app is available. There is an "IPOD" USB connection through a 30pin connector. (Overall, music quality is very good but not as good has name brand head units for USB/Bluetooth/Radio. ) I use an Iphone 4 as an Ipod over USB, but you should be able to use a lightning convertor cable and use newer iphones/ipods. The music interface is better on USB but still falls short if you're looking for iphone/ipad useability. You can connect the head unit to a wireless hotspot on iphone/ipad or any device with this function. You can also connect via USB to a 3G dongle but the supported devices are limited, (more reading for you.)
GPS works great and the iGo Navi app provided is really good and does not require an online connection. You may need to do some more reading to get maps / poi functioning to your needs depending on your location.
It's my first android head unit install and it was flawless for me. I invested lots of time reading to extract experience from this board and others I am generally familiar with car sound systems, electronics, soldering so I was just a matter of understanding the wiring interfaces for this unit, which are standard.
I'm a newbie on Android , so I'm not experimenting with ROMs yet but there is a ton of info on what is possible with mods and replacement apps for various functions.
so, bottom line, I give the unit a 8/10 overall, but the value for money from Amazon I give it 9/10.
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Thank you for your information.You're more experienced than me as I can tell. According to the review,it seems a good choice.I will look at more and make a "experienced" choice,I think.thanks again,man.:good:

Chinese HU vs Parrot Asteroid Smart

Hi
I am currently using Parrot Asteroid Smart, generally I am satisfied with the unit, sound quality is great, BT and other features works good, but the HW is old and max. Android version is 2.3.
I'm thinking about upgrading to newer android and the only possibility I see is one of chinese 2din HU like Ownice C500.
Does anyone have experience if they are any cons of such change? What is the sound quality of C500 compared to Smart?
Any info would be appreciated.
ee0090 said:
Hi
I am currently using Parrot Asteroid Smart, generally I am satisfied with the unit, sound quality is great, BT and other features works good, but the HW is old and max. Android version is 2.3.
I'm thinking about upgrading to newer android and the only possibility I see is one of chinese 2din HU like Ownice C500.
Does anyone have experience if they are any cons of such change? What is the sound quality of C500 compared to Smart?
Any info would be appreciated.
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I am in the exact same situation. I was happy with the PAS at first, but it became outdated and frustrating very quickly - the lack of apps supported natively, the lack of ram and storage. Even after rooting and installing Google Play store there are so many apps that can't be run on 2.3. Positives though are that the Bluetooth call quality and voice command is in my opinion unmatched.
I have since bought an Eonon Android unit (rooted and installed Malaysk rom) for my wife's car and the interface is great, the sound is reasonable and the app support is great. The Bluetooth however is terrible, to the point of being unusable, the person on the other end can either not hear or suffers from major delay. This is a known problem with nearly ALL Chinese Android head units and there is a hardware mod but not being very confident in opening the unit and performing the mod properly and potentially voiding warranty is a risk I'm yet to take with it. I also have an issue where the physical volume control knob stops working and sound can only be adjusted on-screen, this is usually fixed with a reboot.
I still have not found a reliable unit to replace the PAS in my car after reading numerous threads that has Bluetooth quality on par with the PAS. Hopefully someone else here can recommend a decent unit?
Joying 2GB Intel is the way to go
CadillacMike said:
Joying 2GB Intel is the way to go
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Why?
look over some of the various threads on XDA, and feel free to check out the official Joying forum - http://forum.carjoying.com/
For the most part i think Joying gets the least amount of negative feedback, they tend to have pretty good customer service, and they seem to so somewhat monthly updates. I have had the older 1gb model and I currently have the newer 2GB of RAM model, and I'm a big fan:
here is a video review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzGFDwSFj24&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUP4WGYHIaQ
but dont take my word for it, like I said, if you spend some time reading, you'll see a lot of the other head units have their fair share of bugs and complaints
If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
Hilari0 said:
If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Thanks for the info
Few questions:
What is the BT handsfree quality with external mic installed?
Does the radio display station names? Does RDS and AF work correctly?
What is the general sound quality?
Does WiFi module connect with 4G router?
I use the head units wifi to connect to my phone as a wifi hotspot. Works great. BT handsfree with external mic is very good, at least according to those I talk to, I haven't been on the "receiving end" yet..
The sound quality is good, I'm still using the OEM speakers and they sound better with this head unit compared to the OEM head unit. Can't confirm on radio as I actually don't use it much... It does have RDS it seems, but don't know if it works or not. (radio where I live is garbage, nonsense content and music seems limited to whatever the top 20 list is...)
Hilari0 said:
I use the head units wifi to connect to my phone as a wifi hotspot. Works great. BT handsfree with external mic is very good, at least according to those I talk to, I haven't been on the "receiving end" yet..
The sound quality is good, I'm still using the OEM speakers and they sound better with this head unit compared to the OEM head unit. Can't confirm on radio as I actually don't use it much... It does have RDS it seems, but don't know if it works or not. (radio where I live is garbage, nonsense content and music seems limited to whatever the top 20 list is...)
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Thank you for the info. Which version do you use? I can see there are 3 different versions of 7" universal unit with the same hardware. The difference is that two of them have volume knob and the 3rd only touchscreen.
Hilari0 said:
If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Both MTCD and Joying INtel have positive and negative feedbacks....
In terms of BT performance....both have BT Limited to MCU. Even you could pair from the BT standard menu, the functionality is limited. If i am not wront (correct me) both units CAN'T perform CALLS from BT by using google Now. Google Now recognizes correctly the name and it seems to start the call but never is initiated as it can not communicate with the real bluetooth Handsfree on the Headunit.
On the Intel units, the BT and wifi hardware is on the same board as the CPU, Android has full access to it. That is not the reason Google Now can't make calls. This is different on the MTCD units where the BT is a module which is sort of hacked in and Android doesn't have full access to.
I have bought Joying with Intel. BT handsfree works fine, although there are some other problems:
- no voice in Google Maps,
- when listening to the FM radio no voice output from nav apps except of Igo,
- I have connected Alpine active sub to the unit, sub works fine for first few minutes and stops, any idea why and what can be done about it? Sub worked great with Parrot, so it must be some issue with Joying.
ee0090 said:
I have bought Joying with Intel. BT handsfree works fine, although there are some other problems:
- no voice in Google Maps,
- when listening to the FM radio no voice output from nav apps except of Igo,
- I have connected Alpine active sub to the unit, sub works fine for first few minutes and stops, any idea why and what can be done about it? Sub worked great with Parrot, so it must be some issue with Joying.
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I think if you change default nav app to your preferred one, you'll get voice output in FM radio.
For the sub - is the amp still ON after a few minutes when it stops? I have an active sub on mine and have no issues. I'd check on what your source for "on" signal on your amp is.
Google maps voice output doesn't work no matter what I do. As a default nav app neither.
Sub is powered and it works with very low volume settings, ad soon as I turn the volume up it stops working.
ee0090 said:
Google maps voice output doesn't work no matter what I do. As a default nav app neither.
Sub is powered and it works with very low volume settings, ad soon as I turn the volume up it stops working.
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We got Google voice output working. Look into the forum.
Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
ee0090 said:
Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
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(have seen a few oem ones) if so it would be hooked up with the sub RCA output ? Is the amp powering down ??
If so try hooking the remote line on the amp to an 12v acc line instead. (This is no different to the headunit remote 12v output just that if you switch the head unit off the amp is still powered on , this could eliminate a headunit problem ?)
ee0090 said:
Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
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As wrx216 said. I think it might be bad wiring. try a different SUB "ON" source. For example, I tap in the + wire of my rear speaker as the power on signal for the sub amp.
Google maps voice output still does not work. I did factory reset - it did not help.
I have updated the firmware and google maps voice works fine. But sub does not work at all now.
I have connected remote wire of the sub to constant +12V output (the same as amp. power supply) - it still does not work. I have also tried to change RCA input of the amp. - still nothing.

Best Android Head Unit for Track Car

From all I have read, it sounds like the top units are the Joying Intel Sofia, the PX5-based units like Dasiata, and the Ownice C500 Octacore.
I am still having trouble understanding which unit would be best for my application as a data recorder for a track car. Specifically, I would like to be able to connect both a Bluetooth OBD2 reader and an external high-refresh-rate GPS receiver (like the QStarz or Dual units) for use with a program like Track Addict. In other words, I'm probably looking for the most fully featured Bluetooth available, ideally without too terribly much fiddling.
Along these lines, do these units recognize external USB dash mount cameras like the internal camera of a cell phone for track video?
Thanks for the help.
Bob
I have a Joying unit but while it connects to torque pro using an ODBLINK MX, it refuses to connect to my SkyPro XGPS160 GPS Receiver. Also, as far as I know no headunit has motion sensors to record acceleration, lateral G's, etc. For the track I'm using an old Nexus 7 2013. Works great with all track apps and OBD and external 10HZ GPS plus has all the sensors you could want.

Display 'Torque Pro' directly to head unit without relaying through mobile device

New to forum, as well as new to the Android, Android Auto head units
I am looking for a better understanding of what's needed exactly to display the 'Torque Pro' app directly to a 'Head' unit without passing through a third device
I have the scanner port device
I have the 'Torque Pro' app running on the s9+ mobile device
Goal is to have the app running on a head unit minus the s9+
I have been reading, researching
Down to a Sony Android Auto unit
Or
Joying head unit that uses a sim card?
I am also concerned about quality of music playback, radio and FLAC files
Many thanks for your thoughts
To have OBD directly your only option is an Android based unit like the Joying. Android Auto just mirrors certain apps from your phone.
You'll need an OBD2 dongle. Just install Torque on the head unit and link it with the dongle same as you would with an Android phone.
Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk
Would this obd2 dongle be a USB, Bluetooth or WiFi connection?
I'd still want to be able to connect to phone to the head unit for calls etc. But for the torque Pro to work without the phone.
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Would this obd2 dongle be a USB, Bluetooth or WiFi connection?
I'd still want to be able to connect to phone to the head unit for calls etc. But for the torque Pro to work without the phone.
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Yes, Bluetooth connection from head unit to OBD II adapter. You can have multiple Bluetooth connections so your Anroid head unit will be connected to your phone for voice and media and the OBD II adapter for data.

If Bluetooth is capable, why my previous head unit could connect with every device?

So, if in this forum some people say it is not possible to connect any device via Bluetooth except for the phone because it is soldered to the HU or whatever, why my previous head unit with the same wires and android version could do it?
I ordered a boison px6 and test it but I had to return it for some size reasons. I got to make it work with an OBDII and Bluetooth multimedia remote control with NO ISSUES, directly from the Bluetooth settings.
So, now reading the posts in this forum, it seems my new Joyix head unit, which seems to be almost the same unit except for the size, it cannot connect to any device via Bluetooth... how is that possible?
By the way, the seller doesn't agree.
I'm not sure where you got that information, but it is not entirely true. The bluetooth is capable of connecting not only phones, and phone audio but elm327 based obd2 adapters as well. All the units I have had, have this capacity.
Bob_Sanders said:
I'm not sure where you got that information, but it is not entirely true. The bluetooth is capable of connecting not only phones, and phone audio but elm327 based obd2 adapters as well. All the units I have had, have this capacity.
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An example from this forum:
Can a Bluetooth Device (not smartphone, not OBD) works with Android PX5/PX6 device?
I have a Dasaita PX6, with Hal9k ROM and RF210 bluetooth module. I can only pair smartphones and OBD devices. I need to pair a bluetooth lights module to control ambient lights but BT can't recognize it (my phones can do it). I read something...
forum.xda-developers.com
kicooo said:
An example from this forum:
Can a Bluetooth Device (not smartphone, not OBD) works with Android PX5/PX6 device?
I have a Dasaita PX6, with Hal9k ROM and RF210 bluetooth module. I can only pair smartphones and OBD devices. I need to pair a bluetooth lights module to control ambient lights but BT can't recognize it (my phones can do it). I read something...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Well I have bought a separate Bluetooth wifi dongle and I will write here if I got to pair both the OBDII and the Bluetooth multimedia button on the wheel.

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