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wolfson chip or not, the s4 sgs3 has great sound quality

I know there is a big question as to whether the American gs3 has the wolfson audio chip. I can tell you right away that using poweramp with the rock preset produces some of the best audio I have heard out of any media player. Just so you understand my level of audio history I currently own Shure e500 pth, Phonak audeo pfe 232, klipsch x10, velodyne vpulse, ultimate ears super fi .5 eb, klipsch s4, shure se535, klipsch image one, audio technica m800. I have owned cowon d3, j3, ipod touch ipod classic, toshiba gigabeat s60. I am just giving you guys a heads up that it also is powerful enough to drive all the headphones (except for th Audio technica) without an amp. Hopefully this post helps a music fanatic like myself.
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That's good to hear. My exynos version is very soft driving my Akg monitors directly.

Yes it sounds great except the noise floor is high. A lot of noise on quiet music. Great dynamic range though.

stonew5082 said:
Yes it sounds great except the noise floor is high. A lot of noise on quiet music. Great dynamic range though.
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Yeah, it's almost obscenely noisy. With rock music I'm not sure I'd ever notice, but anything with quiet parts drives me batty. Hopefully it is an internal amp setting that can be tweaked in software (my volume level is often at 2 or 3 so trading volume for reduced noise is an easy choice).

Even the speaker is nice and crisp! Also the APT-X on this phone and my Bluetooth dongle...is great!

I do like the audio output, it sounds great in my car. I didn't realize how bad my SGS2 was until I tried this! I'm actually NOT disappointed by the earbuds Sammy bundled with the phone! They deliver a surprisingly punchy bass. They are a warmer tone I think, so they don't sound as crisp as they could. I just don't feel like the music is *right there*, it's like it's behind a small film or wall. It's close, just not going directly into my ear. It's like it's going through a filter. Anyway. Good quality output in my opinion, as least much better than it could have been.

With poweramp and my IEM's (Earsonic SM-3) I don't notice any background noise at all. This is the best portable digital player I've had, and I can't wait to get a 64gb card for it. Definitely beats spending $200 on 64gb of permanent storage from apple.
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yokken said:
I do like the audio output, it sounds great in my car. I didn't realize how bad my SGS2 was until I tried this! I'm actually NOT disappointed by the earbuds Sammy bundled with the phone! They deliver a surprisingly punchy bass. They are a warmer tone I think, so they don't sound as crisp as they could. I just don't feel like the music is *right there*, it's like it's behind a small film or wall. It's close, just not going directly into my ear. It's like it's going through a filter. Anyway. Good quality output in my opinion, as least much better than it could have been.
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I agree the included headphones aren't bad at all. I installed awesome beats app on mine via the diet ics rom and the music sounds wonderful!

I used my Sennheiser HD280s with and without my Fiio E5 amp and it sounded relatively the same. But for some reason, it sounded somewhat empty, lacking body... Almost translating what I noticed with the earbuds to the headphones. Maybe the DAC really isn't that good.

cloudyphiz said:
With poweramp and my IEM's (Earsonic SM-3) I don't notice any background noise at all. This is the best portable digital player I've had, and I can't wait to get a 64gb card for it. Definitely beats spending $200 on 64gb of permanent storage from apple.
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See I'm the opposite. I noticed more background noise (mostly during quiet parts of songs) with poweramp than the stock player, but the eq and interface in poweramp is just so much better that I can't leave it.

Voltage Spike said:
Yeah, it's almost obscenely noisy. With rock music I'm not sure I'd ever notice, but anything with quiet parts drives me batty. Hopefully it is an internal amp setting that can be tweaked in software (my volume level is often at 2 or 3 so trading volume for reduced noise is an easy choice).
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We need headphone amp control. If Supercurio doesn't support us gs3 I'm going to kill myself or write a control app.

stonew5082 said:
We need headphone amp control. If Supercurio doesn't support us gs3 I'm going to kill myself or write a control app.
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You're making me want to pull down Samsung's kernel source to see if I can identify what is bound to be an initialization problem...
Actually, just tried the phone on a less-sensitive set of earbuds, and the noise is much less noticeable. I'll have to give the in-box earbuds a try for comparison.

My iem's are relatively efficient and with aiff files the sound is fantastic. I'm using poweramp with eq off. Clarity, resolution, inner detail and fidelity in spades.this is going to make me buy a 64gb card. Or four.
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poweramp with DVC (direct volume control) enabled gives distortion, especially with the tone adjustments such as the bass control, so far the best sound i have heard is the stock player with the rock setting or custom with the rock settings and bass turned up a bit, i hope poweramp devs resolve the distortion as i really don't think the problem is the phone itself, and for what its worth i am very picky with my music and have tested the settings with high end audio technica headphones and my competition subs in my car.

BlazingBeast7 said:
poweramp with DVC (direct volume control) enabled gives distortion, especially with the tone adjustments such as the bass control, so far the best sound i have heard is the stock player with the rock setting or custom with the rock settings and bass turned up a bit, i hope poweramp devs resolve the distortion as i really don't think the problem is the phone itself, and for what its worth i am very picky with my music and have tested the settings with high end audio technica headphones and my competition subs in my car.
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turning off DVC did help some

sure turning dvc off helps but at that point using the stock player produces better sound so as of now poweramp is a no go for me.

Could be lounder
The sound quality is great, was pleasantly surprised with the included earbuds and fit kit. Big improvement from the S-II.
One gripe is the volume. While louder than the S-II it is still a little quieter than I refer. Anyone know how to boost the volume?

I still slightly prefer the GS1 with voodoo sound, but this phone does better than I was expecting and absolutely rapes the GS2 on audio quality. Great for what I use it for.

toiler1 said:
The sound quality is great, was pleasantly surprised with the included earbuds and fit kit. Big improvement from the S-II.
One gripe is the volume. While louder than the S-II it is still a little quieter than I refer. Anyone know how to boost the volume?
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hearing aids?
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Good tip on the stock music player. I never even thought of trying it. Much better sound than my other apps.
Looking for a hearing aid app after I find my bifocals.
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Audio quality of the M9

I've tried FLAC and DSD music on my UK M9. My preferred headphones are the Sony MDR1RBT but using them as wired headphones. The head amp is much better than the Note 4 and even over BT the music sounds "analogue".
The quality of reproduction is superb.
What do you guys think?

Try to properly set Neutron.. and nothing will excel your smartphone sound..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval

Try a Dolby atmos video on YouTube through the speakers... Mind blowing

jauhien said:
Try to properly set Neutron.. and nothing will excel your smartphone sound..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval
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DSD is better than CD quality. The quality of the source is important as is decoding.

Is Dolby an option for audio through Bluetooth?
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Yes, I downgraded.

Nope..

davidtm0 said:
Is Dolby an option for audio through Bluetooth?
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Yes, I downgraded.
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I think the BT must be a new standard as seems as good as aptx.

jah said:
I've tried FLAC and DSD music on my UK M9. My preferred headphones are the Sony MDR1RBT but using them as wired headphones. The head amp is much better than the Note 4 and even over BT the music sounds "analogue".
The quality of reproduction is superb.
What do you guys think?
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Do you have a N4 snapdragon or Exynos?
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vegetaleb said:
Do you have a N4 snapdragon or Exynos?
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I have a Note 4 using Snapdragon and Note Edge with Exynos. I haven't compared with the Edge but from memory the head amp on the M9 seems better.

jah said:
I have a Note 4 using Snapdragon and Note Edge with Exynos. I haven't compared with the Edge but from memory the head amp on the M9 seems better.
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From what I understood on Head-Fi about earphones audio quality:
N4 Snapdragon < M8/M9 < N4 Exynos
Exynos has a pretty good Wolfson DAC

vegetaleb said:
From what I understood on Head-Fi about earphones audio quality:
N4 Snapdragon < M8/M9 < N4 Exynos
Exynos has a pretty good Wolfson DAC
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You can by an external DAC for £25 which gets close to Wolfson. The Samsung head amp is not as good as the one in the M9. Don't know how Dolby compares to Wolfson. I'll need to do some extended comparison listening. But the M9 sounds better to me than the M8.

I can second that. Switched from M8 to M9 and the amp is much better with a sound much louder and more true to a real music experience (instruments sound precise, lots of great mediums and bass). You can tweak the boomsound for different types of headphones as well.
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avara said:
I can second that. Switched from M8 to M9 and the amp is much better with a sound much louder and more true to a real music experience (instruments sound precise, lots of great mediums and bass). You can tweak the boomsound for different types of headphones as well.
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The M9 is also subjectively better than the M8 in some areas. M8 beats it slightly in Distortion and noise but the M9 sounds better, why?
Most important to me is the incredibly low stereo crosstalk, which is the lowest I've seen on a mobile phone, even lower than the Wolfson. IIRC, the Wolfson gets a respectable but not quite as good ~-85 or so.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-review-1230p7.php

I noticed a little sound distortion on YouTube using external boomsound speakers. After update to 1.32.401.15 become better, but distortion definitely still persist. Has anyone noticed it?

aethelbert said:
The M9 is also subjectively better than the M8 in some areas. M8 beats it slightly in Distortion and noise but the M9 sounds better, why?
Most important to me is the incredibly low stereo crosstalk, which is the lowest I've seen on a mobile phone, even lower than the Wolfson. IIRC, the Wolfson gets a respectable but not quite as good ~-85 or so.
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I was kind of surprised to see this, really. The DAC is on the Snapdragon 810 in this case right? I don't suppose anyone happens to know which one it is?

Could it be that HTC use their own DAC? Or is it built into the SoC?

Which BOOMSOUND setting do you guys prefer when using earbuds/headphones?
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Poweramp is better

If you buy Neutron and set it right, you will switch the BoomSound off - with your earbuds/headset.. no kidding..

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If you buy Neutron and set it right, you will switch the BoomSound off - with your earbuds/headset.. no kidding..
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Hell, I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
Also, if you could, please put together a guide for how you think this phone can maximize the utility of Neutron, with all the settings that you find effective.

Give this a blast through the speakers in theater mode...
Dolby Atmos Amaze Theatrical Sound System Trailer HD-Enhanced: https://youtu.be/TlSLbfhVod8

How is the sound quality in the NON QUAD DAC version?

Hi guys, just want to know how is the sound quality in the NON QUAD DAC version. Is it good enough? Maybe like the HTC 10, Axon 7 or Galaxy S7 sound quality? I know it must be worse than the QUAD DAC version, but how much worse? Is it still worth it or if i'm looking for a good sound smartphone i should look for another one? Where i live the version being sold is the 32GB H870.

Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)

kabirjedi said:
Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)
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It's that bad? It doesn't has a more simple DAC? It's using the Qualcomm one?

Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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godofpornings said:
Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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That's sad to hear. I'm not going to buy it then.

I think it sounds pretty good.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
Offcorse it all depends on headphones. If you have cheap, ****ty headphones no amount of DAC can help you.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I think it sounds pretty great.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, very close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
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Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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godofpornings said:
Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.
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No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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godofpornings said:
No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.

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As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.
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Yeah that's true. I'm using the hi Res headfones I got from the HTC 10. The g6 has no DAC. The sound quality is very poor for a flagship phone for £600 I must say. But each to there own.
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I use the free vlc player and the 10 level equalizer along with my library of flac music. I run it onto my fender audio system (jetta) via Bluetooth and the sound is incredible. Deep bass, great mids and vocals. The sound with the headphone jack into the aux port isn't noticably better. I highly recommend vlc's free player, I had no idea that it would sound so good. Just play around with each equalizer level till your music sounds the way you want it to. Make sure you start with the levels flat, then go from there. I also put my music on a 128gb Samsung microsdxc card which I purchased on Amazon for only 30.99 I also highly recommend this card. Not as fast as more expensive cards but sound quality can't be beat. Model MB-MP128D. Peace..

Sound is OK it's not bad. But compared to my V10 the sound pales. Not as clean output or wide/deep sound signature.
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LOL. Every digital device that outputs sound has to have a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter), it just converts those 1 and 0 binary codes to electric signal. It's just the quality differs due to price. Some DACs have enough power on their own to drive small headphones, what sets "audiophile" smartphones apart is the addition of an Amp, it takes the electric signal from DAC and amplifies it to drive more power to large headphones with high impedance.

Is there any point in keeping my g5 for its b&o dac or not I have a s8 now well law has had it 6months

Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.

Windforce0511 said:
Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.
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Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1

Normal one doesn't sound very good but with quad-DAC it is outstanding IMO.

quadacless g6 sound big nothing....

tech_head said:
Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1
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How is it compared to Google's one? I know adapter from Google is sounding 99% same as one from Iphone. I haven't tried Google one yet, but one from Iphone is very powerfull and have wide sound stage. I don't know where tu buy it btw..

TIDAL with HI-FI DAC LG V20

I want to know if TIDAL uses our HI-FI Quad Dac. I'm thinking about paying for an account if it could play HI-RES files from my v20.
Is it worth?
Thanks for your answers.

hi
I think what you was need HiFi Format from Tidal ( FLAC/APE/CUE 24bit/96 khz - 192 khz ) and too High Impedance earphones ( over 50 ohms )

OberonMX said:
hi
I think what you was need HiFi Format from Tidal ( FLAC/APE/CUE 24bit/96 khz - 192 khz ) and too High Impedance earphones ( over 50 ohms )
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Not sure why people keep thinking high impedance means better quality. All it means is it makes the sound much louder at lower volume.
People keep talking about ohms while not understanding what that actually is. I suggest looking up ohms law, then grab a clac.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Not sure why people keep thinking high impedance means better quality. All it means is it makes the sound much louder at lower volume.
People keep talking about ohms while not understanding what that actually is. I suggest looking up ohms law, then grab a clac.
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I think you should send your comments to LG for selling a product that is advertised as HiFI and also indicates that your product is capable of handling sound equipment of those specifications
Hahaha

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I think you should send your comments to LG for selling a product that is advertised as HiFI and also indicates that your product is capable of handling sound equipment of those specifications
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Why would you even make a comment like that?
HiFi works on low impedance as well. That's also seen by the free B&O earphones we got that are 32 ohms. Again, ohms aren't a factor on music quality.
The DAC and earphones/headphones make the difference in quality.
You can buy an awesome pair of earphones for 1K that are only 34 ohms. Yes they are worth the money if you have it.
All ohms are for is how much power you need. That's it.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Why would you even make a comment like that?
HiFi works on low impedance as well. That's also seen by the free B&O earphones we got that are 32 ohms. Again, ohms aren't a factor on music quality.
The DAC and earphones/headphones make the difference in quality.
You can buy an awesome pair of earphones for 1K that are only 34 ohms. Yes they are worth the money if you have it.
All ohms are for is how much power you need. That's it.
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Now that you mention it, I have had the opportunity to try the B & O and the headphones of a Nubia Z11 as well as the Headphones of a Huawei equipment and certainly the B & O headphones have the worst performance comparing them with the previous ones., Well as you say it is a subject of DAC / Earphone

OberonMX said:
Now that you mention it, I have had the opportunity to try the B & O and the headphones of a Nubia Z11 as well as the Headphones of a Huawei equipment and certainly the B & O headphones have the worst performance comparing them with the previous ones., Well as you say it is a subject of DAC / Earphone
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I love the B&O, but that's always going to be subjective.
https://usa.1more.com/collections/headphones
I do imagine the $200 version would be much better then the B&O. Also giving more base which the B&O lacks. I know many people hate B&O due to the base really lacking.
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I love the B&O, but that's always going to be subjective.
https://usa.1more.com/collections/headphones
I do imagine the $200 version would be much better then the B&O. Also giving more base which the B&O lacks. I know many people hate B&O due to the base really lacking.
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thanks for the link now I check it

I had both Tidal and Spotify , cause Sprint gave me a 6 month free trial of HiFi Tidal.
Honestly Spotify sounded better with the use of an equalizer, Tidal was just OK but their app just isn't as well developed as Spotify for my taste.
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I love the B&O, but that's always going to be subjective.
https://usa.1more.com/collections/headphones
I do imagine the $200 version would be much better then the B&O. Also giving more base which the B&O lacks. I know many people hate B&O due to the base really lacking.
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the 1more previous version which are only 99 bucks are pretty damn good, yes the latest version is slightly better (Very slightly better, IMO not worth the extra 100 bucks)
I'd skip those and get the older ones.

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I had both Tidal and Spotify , cause Sprint gave me a 6 month free trial of HiFi Tidal.
Honestly Spotify sounded better with the use of an equalizer, Tidal was just OK but their app just isn't as well developed as Spotify for my taste.
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the 1more previous version which are only 99 bucks are pretty damn good, yes the latest version is slightly better (Very slightly better, IMO not worth the extra 100 bucks)
I'd skip those and get the older ones.
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Thing is, I'm not sure if tidal or Spotify is taking advantage of the quad DAC. When the LG V20 First came out, LG's own music app was not. Then came an update and LG's own music app started using it.
I don't know if it still holds true, but I think LG's stock music app only takes advantage of it.
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I got a pair of Sennheiser IE8, they may not be high impedance, but still a good pair of in-ear headphones.
My question is: Does Tidal outputs HI-Fi sample rate/bit-depth to headphones via Sabre DAC?
Or does it downsamples to 48kHz 16-bit like the most media players available in Playstore?
Thanks dudes.

OberonMX said:
Now that you mention it, I have had the opportunity to try the B & O and the headphones of a Nubia Z11 as well as the Headphones of a Huawei equipment and certainly the B & O headphones have the worst performance comparing them with the previous ones., Well as you say it is a subject of DAC / Earphone
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the B&O included on our phone were the low/cheap version. altough some people claim that the US variant had B&O H3 which are better. and i agreed to the person above, big impedance doesnt mean its better, i once join auidofans gathering on my region and some guy showing his tia fourte and guess what? that damn IEM only had 16ohm impedance and costing 3500k$ ( i could buy a damn car/motorbike/great pc gaming with that money) and the sound quality? damn man, it really blows up my heads. meanwhile, i also tested some guy's ks 500ohm and v20 easily drived it when other phone ( iphone 7 and S8) need external dac/amp to use it.

Salvaparalyzer said:
I got a pair of Sennheiser IE8, they may not be high impedance, but still a good pair of in-ear headphones.
My question is: Does Tidal outputs HI-Fi sample rate/bit-depth to headphones via Sabre DAC?
Or does it downsamples to 48kHz 16-bit like the most media players available in Playstore?
Thanks dudes.
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Honestly, I think it down samples like other media players.
That's why I stick to the stock LG music app. The other option is to root and use V4A. Then you can use anything and not worry.
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alldine345 said:
the B&O included on our phone were the low/cheap version. altough some people claim that the US variant had B&O H3 which are better. and i agreed to the person above, big impedance doesnt mean its better, i once join auidofans gathering on my region and some guy showing his tia fourte and guess what? that damn IEM only had 16ohm impedance and costing 3500k$ ( i could buy a damn car/motorbike/great pc gaming with that money) and the sound quality? damn man, it really blows up my heads. meanwhile, i also tested some guy's ks 500ohm and v20 easily drived it when other phone ( iphone 7 and S8) need external dac/amp to use it.
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I got the H3. They are entry level audiophile grade earphones. That's why people don't recommend them for the price they cost. At that cost, there are many mid entry-level earphones that are much better. Since they were free, I'm not going out to buy anything else since to me they are "good enough". When they break, I'll buy something that's mid entry-level earphones.
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alldine345 said:
the B&O included on our phone were the low/cheap version. altough some people claim that the US variant had B&O H3 which are better. and i agreed to the person above, big impedance doesnt mean its better, i once join auidofans gathering on my region and some guy showing his tia fourte and guess what? that damn IEM only had 16ohm impedance and costing 3500k$ ( i could buy a damn car/motorbike/great pc gaming with that money) and the sound quality? damn man, it really blows up my heads. meanwhile, i also tested some guy's ks 500ohm and v20 easily drived it when other phone ( iphone 7 and S8) need external dac/amp to use it.
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500 ohm ? Umm I looking for a earphones between 50-150 ... Hahaha ,

BROKEN1981 said:
Thing is, I'm not sure if tidal or Spotify is taking advantage of the quad DAC. When the LG V20 First came out, LG's own music app was not. Then came an update and LG's own music app started using it.
I don't know if it still holds true, but I think LG's stock music app only takes advantage of it.
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Well IMO it does, as simple as switching the DAC On/off and you can hear the difference... at least I do.

I gotta back up Broken, I have 9 ohm shure se846s on an adapter that bumps it up a few more that kick major ass if tuned correctly, what you're forgetting is most crappy poor built head/earphones are lower impedance and anything with high ohms. Use quality parts, that dont mean some low ones have quality. Most people are confusing the dac as only good in high mode which isn't true, bout all 500 ohm headphones are gonna be awesome if given the power to do so. They have heavier less easy to move parts which can have more precision, but require the power to do so, i have a subwoofer that has a 30 pound magnet behind the driver but also a 3000 watt digital amp and the woofer barely moves by hand, so when power stops it stops w/o flapping if that makes sense. Just cuz ur $30 earbuds suck don't mean they all do. There's benefits of high and low impedance which i will not get into.

cpete2112 said:
i have a subwoofer that has a 30 pound magnet behind the driver but also a 3000 watt digital amp and the woofer barely moves by hand, so when power stops it stops w/o flapping if that makes sense. Just cuz ur $30 earbuds suck don't mean they all do. There's benefits of high and low impedance which i will not get into.
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that's called "damping factor".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping_factor
I would hazard a guess that you'd need a lab instrument to have conclusive evidence whether Tidal was using the Q-DAC or not, so that you can eliminate the audio quality perception of different loudnesses. This issue frustrates me, to know what apps and services actually give us the sound quality we want!

I have used Tidal for a year now and it is worth the $20 for me sounds killer. I happen to use the 1more 3 driver earbuds and love them too.
The tidal app sounds way better than spotify. I asked my wife to use tidal for a week and she said the spotify sounded terrible when she went back so now uses tidal. I also use the v20 for my home audio system and a big difference there too. If you don't invest in good speakers, buds, or phones don't waste your money.
No worries about the ohms stuff if your buds or headphones need the extra power to drive them they will have a higher impedance and the v20 will adjust accordingly.
I'll never get a phone without a hifi dac and headphone jack.

The 3.5mm jack / Quality,Dac

Hello.. Im just going to buy Redmi note 7 global version, but I've an important question that confuses me...
I know than note 7 has 3.5mm headphone jack. my previous device (mi 8 lite) had not 3.5mm jack, but the USB-C to 3.5mm cable had a perfect sound quality.
I have an HiFi Eafphone, but I don't know, that note 7's headphone jack will handle my earphone?... Is the smartphone has any dac/amp ?.. or it has a poor 3.5mm output with a low quality sound... I know power of the Mobile's speaker, but... How about the headphone jack?!.. please, someone help me and check this item..
Thanks a lot..

low quality sound at my opinion...

it's not "low quality sound" .. coz i spent the last 2 days searching for a compatible headphone (since i couldn't find xiaomi headphones) .. i found these
https://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/lg-g3-g4-premium-in-ear-headphones-hss-f530-black.html
they work perfectly with it and the sound quality is WOW

Xiaomi Redmi 7 and Redmi Note 7 Pro are Powered by Dirac Sound Optimization Solutions...
Sound quality is awesome on my low budget MEMT X5S earphone.

danger2u said:
low quality sound at my opinion...
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What's The model of earphone that you tested with?

chazy chaz said:
it's not "low quality sound" .. coz i spent the last 2 days searching for a compatible headphone (since i couldn't find xiaomi headphones) .. i found these
https://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/lg-g3-g4-premium-in-ear-headphones-hss-f530-black.html
they work perfectly with it and the sound quality is WOW
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I know... But, i need to figure out how is the quality with a HiFi earphone.., like Shure se215...

Far as I know dac is integrated in Snapdragon 660, so that is not bad. My tests show that output is louder than My Huawei P10 what was quiet, so output should be ok, remember that if You want good, loud sound don't use headphones over 32 Ohms. Sound quality is worse that P10. Sound is muddier, not that clean and rich, high frequencies are harsher. Sound by comparison can be equal to pc integrated sound card.

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low quality sound at my opinion...
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If you use low quality earphones, than it'll be low quality like your comment though.

Hi ! first of all sorry for my english xD
Got my RN7 and after some web/review read and investigation on the phone, the DAC is ensure by sdm660sndcard , and there is an Amplifier 10V (named MAX98927 in app but also read smartpa 98937 on web...) don't know about other built in DAC
The option "Mi Sound Enhancer" that could be found on "sound and effect" menu seems do very good job with the preset Generic and EQ on FLAT. (I don't like sound effect) Concerning this option I read about no sound effect/EQ but impulse correction/magnitude... I can't say exactly but the difference between the two sounds very like amplification... On Bose earphone 100€ the sound quality is crazy good
And of course disable basic audio player app and go for a good one (i use Aimp for exemple) with flac files

You can choose LDAC for audio codec, as well as aptx. Pretty good sound with headphones

mousstachuuu said:
Hi ! first of all sorry for my english xD
Got my RN7 and after some web/review read and investigation on the phone, the DAC is ensure by sdm660sndcard , and there is an Amplifier 10V (named MAX98927 in app but also read smartpa 98937 on web...) don't know about other built in DAC
The option "Mi Sound Enhancer" that could be found on "sound and effect" menu seems do very good job with the preset Generic and EQ on FLAT. (I don't like sound effect) Concerning this option I read about no sound effect/EQ but impulse correction/magnitude... I can't say exactly but the difference between the two sounds very like amplification... On Bose earphone 100€ the sound quality is crazy good
And of course disable basic audio player app and go for a good one (i use Aimp for exemple) with flac files
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Thanks friend. I bought Note 7 and it will arrive in few days
"On Bose earphone 100€ the sound quality is crazy good"... it's Good with "Mi sound enhancer" or without that?
And... I am using flac files with Huawei player right now.. if you right, the sound will be good in shure earphone too... And i hope so.
Thanks A lot for answer. :highfive:

With option enable sounds pretty good, i putted setting on "General" cause my earphones are classical (no intra) but you have to try it. Also there's an in built equalizer but i set it on flat (all on 0)
Tell us what you think of it after tried !

hello, the sound is very good with the jack. I use poweramp which supports reading 24 bit flac.

Farhankhosravi said:
Hello.. Im just going to buy Redmi note 7 global version, but I've an important question that confuses me...
I know than note 7 has 3.5mm headphone jack. my previous device (mi 8 lite) had not 3.5mm jack, but the USB-C to 3.5mm cable had a perfect sound quality.
I have an HiFi Eafphone, but I don't know, that note 7's headphone jack will handle my earphone?... Is the smartphone has any dac/amp ?.. or it has a poor 3.5mm output with a low quality sound... I know power of the Mobile's speaker, but... How about the headphone jack?!.. please, someone help me and check this item..
Thanks a lot..
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I found some interesting stuff regarding the redmi note 7. Snapdragon 660 uses its own integrated dac which is awesome. My headphone is IEM by Mee Audio Pinnacle P1 which has impedance of 50Ω(very high). They are difficult to drive by normal phones but redmi note 7 drives it well without any external dac+amp. Since it can drive a 50Ω headphone I think it can play any other IEM with ease.
I posted something today regarding this here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...iophile-redmi-note-7-wcd9335-wsa881x-t3944386

i have rn7
compare with mi8lite it's output quality not bad but volume is very less!! I'm disappointed ..both dongle and type c headphone on mi8lite are better ..so what i do?
change my phone with mi8 lite?

I use the RN7 with a pair of KZ ZS10 «AND VIPER4ANDROID» to play Spotify, Tidal and Deezer music and the sound you can get from it's just mind-blowing (obviously in my personal opinion)... The default sound eq is just trash, but you can do some great stuff if you know how...
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*Secret* said:
i have rn7
compare with mi8lite it's output quality not bad but volume is very less!! I'm disappointed ..both dongle and type c headphone on mi8lite are better ..so what i do?
change my phone with mi8 lite?
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If you use an external DAC you can use it on every compatible phone and it will sound the same, since the digital signal is equal in every case unless you use some sort of equalizer... So the DAC will sound the same in the Mi8 or in the A2Lite (just to give an exaggerated comparation)... If the quality of the sound is not good enough for you, you can use a Bluetooth DAC or a higher quality USB DAC with a better pair of headphones/earbuds

Remember, viper4android does magic and same is with rn7 (i use some jbl earphones which comes in the box with a lenovo phablet -probably cheap sh*t). The sound was not bad with inbuild sound settings but not really deep and clear. With v4a im satisfied

KidoLMGP said:
I use the RN7 with a pair of KZ ZS10 «AND VIPER4ANDROID» to play Spotify, Tidal and Deezer music and the sound you can get from it's just mind-blowing (obviously in my personal opinion)... The default sound eq is just trash, but you can do some great stuff if you know how...
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If you use an external DAC you can use it on every compatible phone and it will sound the same, since the digital signal is equal in every case unless you use some sort of equalizer... So the DAC will sound the same in the Mi8 or in the A2Lite (just to give an exaggerated comparation)... If the quality of the sound is not good enough for you, you can use a Bluetooth DAC or a higher quality USB DAC with a better pair of headphones/earbuds
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Hi
i sold note 7 along time
buy mi8 se and after that mi8 thats better but not good as laptop output .