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Bad news !!! Yamaha codec

Supercurio has confirmed that GNote has Yamaha audio codec , same as in galaxy note
Audio:
Codec: Yamaha C1YMU823 / MC-1N2 (Same as Samsung Galaxy S II)
FM radio receiver: Si4709 (Same as Samsung Galaxy S/Galaxy S II)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OSYgjDzPVaxzUIEOrc1RrPL2sWLJ5PziyEVt6Q7KeUs/edit?pli=1
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I guess I came late to the party. Please explain what's wrong with it?
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calin75 said:
I guess I came late to the party. Please explain what's wrong with it?
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Yes, I'd like to know also. If it's just a music sound thing, it isn't a problem for me, I don't use it for music, but I know many do.

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This is actually a long story but in short
The Galaxy S II uses Yamaha audio hardware. The Galaxy S II's predecessor, the original Galaxy S, used Wolfson's WM8994 DAC.
Galaxy SI has wolfson codec , which was open source.
Supercurio a well known developer and audio expert here in XDA was able to create good sound output using his voodoo app.
In galaxy SII samsung replaced wolfson with yamaha and this was closed source.
The sound quality for audiophiles using galaxy sII was terrible. ( not to my ears as I am a certified non-audiophile )
Being closed source no further development was possible.
IN the words of supercurio "
DAC Distortion
With today’s Android audio implementation, all kind of media are sent to the DAC as a 44100 / 16bit / Stereo stream. Despite the usage of a fixed rate, Yamaha’s codec is not able to provide a very clean output.
Galaxy S II DAC output quality is limited by several kind of distortions. So far, no firmware was able to fix those despite early Korean updates describing “audio clarity improvements”.
When playing music, those artifacts are perceived as “lack of clarity”, “reduction of stereo separation”, “loss of detail” and “lifeless sound” (opposite of lively)."
The good news is that with new firmware releases many people have said that the sound quality of Galaxy SII is much better. So i guess its going to be better in GNote.
However we wont get Voodoo sounds improvements.
You can see the links below for more detail
http://project-voodoo.org/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053978
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlappdonate&feature=search_result

Isn't there a chance that the kernel/software might be slightly different and will fix the issue?
Besides I've got my hand on for few minutes and I didn't pickup anything being wrong with the sound quality. However I didn't have a chance to plug in my headphones so I might be wrong.

Fast answer
yamaha dac is pure crap if you listen music in headphones over 10€
GS2 + note = yamaha dac, so if you want to listen music with a little quality you need a dedicated mp3, the phone will not be suitable for that.

kersh said:
Fast answer
yamaha dac is pure crap if you listen music in headphones over 10€
GS2 + note = yamaha dac, so if you want to listen music with a little quality you need a dedicated mp3, the phone will not be suitable for that.
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I see no problem with the sound thru headphones.
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Honestly, supercurio must have super ears, cause i've been using my sgs2 as my primary mp3 for 6 months already and I have no complaints. But dude, thanks for ruin it for me. I won't see my sgs2 the same again. =(
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calin75 said:
Honestly, supercurio must have super ears, cause i've been using my sgs2 as my primary mp3 for 6 months already and I have no complaints. But dude, thanks for ruin it for me. I won't see my sgs2 the same again. =(
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Lol, there are no facts, only interpretations. BTW Yamaha produces great electric pianos. Don't see how this is relevant but lol, maybe it helps to restore your hardware

For me the included white head set is worse than the SGS2 one (less bass) but when comparing with the SGS2 headset the sound of the Note seems better as the SGS2.
Especially the noise when scrolling lists and so on is gone for me. In combination with Poweramp as player I'm quite satisfied with the sound.

Niuseek said:
Isn't there a chance that the kernel/software might be slightly different and will fix the issue?
Besides I've got my hand on for few minutes and I didn't pickup anything being wrong with the sound quality. However I didn't have a chance to plug in my headphones so I might be wrong.
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No need to fix if the sound is OK. Improvement/fix comes to something that is not good enough.

They're not that bad despite the dramatic title that this thread has
You do however need to pair it up with a good earbud/iem to get a lot out of it.
Currently i'm using phonak iems with the GS2 and it's been awesome experience so far

Unfortunately with a good pair of full sized cans, the difference is very noticeable.
Guess I will be skipping this phone. Pity... I was looking for an XL phone. Looks like its Galaxy Nexus or something from 2012 for me.
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sauron0101 said:
Unfortunately with a good pair of full sized cans, the difference is very noticeable.
Guess I will be skipping this phone. Pity... I was looking for an XL phone. Looks like its Galaxy Nexus or something from 2012 for me.
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um good pair of full size will make a difference in just about any mobile device. Even a voodoo'd SGS1 won't be able to drive a quality set of cans like akg701/702 or hd800

Sound on video record is better than sgs2. A big point.

A bit unrelated but I'd like to see integrated stereo speakers on such phones.
I remember some Nokia that had a quite great set of speakers turning them into a decent mini jukebox.
Use this size more Samsung!

For those non satisfied with the Yamaha DAC, why not investing in a high end Bluetooth headphone ?
Here you would not pass through the DAC of the Note but through the DAC of the headphone supposedly better...
I think that the note is capable of streaming audio with the Bluetooth connection.

DJKick_fr said:
For those non satisfied with the Yamaha DAC, why not investing in a high end Bluetooth headphone ?
Here you would not pass through the DAC of the Note but through the DAC of the headphone supposedly better...
I think that the note is capable of streaming audio with the Bluetooth connection.
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Because there are not high end bt headphones with quality comparable as good iems.

Yes there are some, for example from Sennheiser but they are not cheap.
Anyway, one that says that there are noticeable differences without a good quality headphone is really making a subjective statement, since the non linearity and signal to noise ratio on an average headset even intra ears is usually horrible.
Even the best audiophile headphones have a THD that is only 0.02% at 1 kHz (about 74 dB). This is by far worse than even the crappiest DACs (some have less than 90 dB but the best ones have >100 dB THD).
Knowing this, in the combination DAC+Heaadphone, it is really the headphone that makes the difference in sound. The DAC non idealities are orders of magnitude below the headphone non idealities.

Musical quality using headphones

Here's a question. Currently I am on an iPhone 5, and it looks like I'll be making the switch to the S4. But before I do, I need to be reassured of one thing.
I use my iPhone 5 as my main and only music player. I have a pair of $150 Monster Turbines, and I take my musical quality very seriously relative to the iPhone 5. My question is, does the S4 have ATLEAST the same or better SQ in all ranges?
Is this app dependent? ROM dependent? I'm new to Android, but not technically unsavvy by ANY means..
Just need to know..

I had the same worries as you did. I came from the iPhone 4, running an ATH-m50 setup up with a fiio e5 amp and switched over to the HTC one x+and have transitioned very smoothly. I recommend finding a player per your taste though.
Take a look at power amp and neuron player! I hope this helps.
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Well there is a feature called 'adapt sound' you go through a hearing test. After the test is done it auto EQ's the EQ's in the music player. I have monster inspirations (noise cancelling) and beyerdynamic T1. With adapt sound on in both cans there's better upper range clarity when differentiating between instruments. I like having the feature on. Makes the music more enjoyable of sorts.
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There seems to be a lot of mixed opinions. It's not that the Qualcomm audio chipset is bad, it's actually quite good, but it up samples audio from 24bit/44khz to 48khz if I'm correct, which kind of degrades the quality a little. I doubt a $150 pair of headphones is gonna be affected by this though. Now if you were rocking some real hardcore audio equipment like $500+ custom monitors, then this might be noticeable.

Apple products still are on top when it comes to audio player quality. I doubt it'll be noticeable with your headphones
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Don't even think a second about sound quality. It's awesome with S4. I use shure se530 head phones. You want to tweak the sound you may use Power Amp. That is what i use. I tried Iphone (3/4/4S/5) several times and sound is better with Power Amp in Galaxy S3/S4(Snapdragon also). Without Power Amp you may not like the sound that much.

varunkumars said:
Don't even think a second about sound quality. It's awesome with S4. I use shure se530 head phones. You want to tweak the sound you may use Power Amp. That is what i use. I tried Iphone (3/4/4S/5) several times and sound is better with Power Amp in Galaxy S3/S4(Snapdragon also). Without Power Amp you may not like the sound that much.
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Actually I recommend trying Gone Mad Music Player, so much better then Power Amp in my opinion

As many have said. Power amp is worth the purchase.
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iphone 5 is a good music player of course.
in android some app can improve the SQ for us. such as poweramp and more.

If you can score an international version, it was supposed to get the much higher quality Wolfson audio chips:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/18...-for-galaxy-range-of-smartphones-and-tablets/
I think the t-mobile version might also have the same hardware as the international version...?
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I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.

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I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.
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This is a major problem for me, as 90% of my music is hip hop.
My monster turbines were designed to accentuate bass
I have a 15' sub in my car, that I LOVE to flex, and if it gonna be as bassy and clean as it is like my iPhone (on hip hop EQ) then we've got problems...

EpicMango said:
This is a major problem for me, as 90% of my music is hip hop.
My monster turbines were designed to accentuate bass
I have a 15' sub in my car, that I LOVE to flex, and if it gonna be as bassy and clean as it is like my iPhone (on hip hop EQ) then we've got problems...
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The S4 isnt lacking in bass at all. It has more bass than my HTC Vivid did...and that was a "Beats"-advertised phone. The S4 has terrific sound quality for a phone. And if you want a nice EQ, get Poweramp. It is well worth the purchase. And if you enjoy bass, don't worry - you can crank the bass up insanely high with Poweramp.
I was very worried about audio quality before getting the S4. And I am absolutely satisfied.
Oh and before you go looking at the HTC One, there have been reports of bluetooth audio streaming distorting the high frequency sounds. The S4 doesnt have this problem.
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bobgodd said:
If you can score an international version, it was supposed to get the much higher quality Wolfson audio chips:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/18...-for-galaxy-range-of-smartphones-and-tablets/
I think the t-mobile version might also have the same hardware as the international version...?
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Tmobile has exact same hardware as att...has been discussed in one of the official bootloader unlock threads
slapdaddy said:
The S4 isnt lacking in bass at all. It has more bass than my HTC Vivid did...and that was a "Beats"-advertised phone. The S4 has terrific sound quality for a phone. And if you want a nice EQ, get Poweramp. It is well worth the purchase. And if you enjoy bass, don't worry - you can crank the bass up insanely high with Poweramp.
I was very worried about audio quality before getting the S4. And I am absolutely satisfied.
Oh and before you go looking at the HTC One, there have been reports of bluetooth audio streaming distorting the high frequency sounds. The S4 doesnt have this problem.
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I would definitely not say the s4 has terrific sound quality....you can't base it off the fact your vivid had beats as that's just a software eq...you've obviously never had a phone with a Wolfson dac....those phones have the best sound quality of every phone-,and with voodoo sound you can tweak it at the hardware level
When it comes to portable music....my infuse is my main player...it blows the s4 and HTC vivid sound quality out of the water
Now the s4 sound quality is acceptable and not bad in any way...just wouldn't say its terrific...this is coming from an audiophile with studio monitors and studio monitor headphones
BTW, I had a vivid too...think I remember your name
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d1esel daddy said:
I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.
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I am running the same setup (stock cables) and previously used a FiiO E6 amp when I had these with my Galaxy S 2... With the S4, I don't need the portable amp and like others stated, PowerAMP is my recommended player - well worth the purchase. I jumped onto PowerAMP right as soon as I found out that it does both FLAC and Gapless, and the interface is beautiful and easily links to the lockscreen (not rooted).
As far as audio quality, I love the V shape audio that PowerAMP(Techno preset) produces onto my IEM's and I also have an iPad Mini (I think Wolfsons audio chip) and yet still prefer the audio from the S4...
Audio becomes very subjective at this point, but I have NOT been disappointed with my S4 and audio quality - especially comparing it to my old Galaxy S II...

mg2195 said:
Tmobile has exact same hardware as att...has been discussed in one of the official bootloader unlock threads
I would definitely not say the s4 has terrific sound quality....you can't base it off the fact your vivid had beats as that's just a software eq...you've obviously never had a phone with a Wolfson dac....those phones have the best sound quality of every phone-,and with voodoo sound you can tweak it at the hardware level
When it comes to portable music....my infuse is my main player...it blows the s4 and HTC vivid sound quality out of the water
Now the s4 sound quality is acceptable and not bad in any way...just wouldn't say its terrific...this is coming from an audiophile with studio monitors and studio monitor headphones
BTW, I had a vivid too...think I remember your name
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Nope never had a Wolfson unfortunately. And I said terrific...for a phone lol. I have never had a phone with sound quality this good. And it will only get better with newer Sammy phones because of their deal with Wolfson. As for the Vivid, I remember reading your name a few times over there and yeah Beats is a software adjustment on the Vivid, but the sound quality was better on the Vivid than it was on my Inspire...and now better on my S4 than on my Vivid.
And yes I am an audiophile as well...I have studio cans and when it comes to absolute pure music quality, I use my desktop comouter as the setup is fantastic for a quality listening experience. But for a modern phone on the market. ..well I dont know of any quadcore phones that have a Wolfson chip...not yet anyway that is. I'm very sure this will change soon though...and its about time manufacturers started to pay more attention to the audio quality in their phones. There are those of us who need it...to basically survive lmao.
Bottom line for me is that there may be better phones out there for music quality, but they lack the horsepower of the S4. And there is a lot more that I do with this phone than just listen to music. The sound quality may not be Wolfson good, but it's definitely good enough and gets the job done very well as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and if someone is very concerned about music quality, there are external DACs that can be attached to the phone's micro USB port which are phenomenal. Though they are as big as the phone is, they work well lol.
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Nope never had a Wolfson unfortunately. And I said terrific...for a phone lol. I have never had a phone with sound quality this good. And it will only get better with newer Sammy phones because of their deal with Wolfson. As for the Vivid, I remember reading your name a few times over there and yeah Beats is a software adjustment on the Vivid, but the sound quality was better on the Vivid than it was on my Inspire...and now better on my S4 than on my Vivid.
And yes I am an audiophile as well...I have studio cans and when it comes to absolute pure music quality, I use my desktop comouter as the setup is fantastic for a quality listening experience. But for a modern phone on the market. ..well I dont know of any quadcore phones that have a Wolfson chip...not yet anyway that is. I'm very sure this will change soon though...and its about time manufacturers started to pay more attention to the audio quality in their phones. There are those of us who need it...to basically survive lmao.
Bottom line for me is that there may be better phones out there for music quality, but they lack the horsepower of the S4. And there is a lot more that I do with this phone than just listen to music. The sound quality may not be Wolfson good, but it's definitely good enough and gets the job done very well as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and if someone is very concerned about music quality, there are external DACs that can be attached to the phone's micro USB port which are phenomenal. Though they are as big as the phone is, they work well lol.
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Couldn't agree with your post more
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Audio quality?

I just purchased a pair of Beats earphones and tested them on both the S6 and S7 Edge and noticed that the overall sound and bass is much more louder and crisp on the S6 than on my S7 Edge. That said, has anyone who has previously owned an S6 or S6 Edge found there to be any significant difference in audio quality between these 2 devices?

LuigiBull23 said:
I just purchased a pair of Beats earphones and tested them on both the S6 and S7 Edge and noticed that the overall sound and bass is much more louder and crisp on the S6 than on my S7 Edge. That said, has anyone who has previously owned an S6 or S6 Edge found there to be any significant difference in audio quality between these 2 devices?
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Have you heard anything better using BT audio? I've needed to use Viper4android on all my other phones to get the sound quality I want.
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Bataga said:
Have you heard anything better using BT audio? I've needed to use Viper4android on all my other phones to get the sound quality I want.
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I'm just talking stock for now until we get root. There's a noticeable difference in audio quality between my 2 devices. I'm just looking for confirmation from others.

LuigiBull23 said:
I'm just talking stock for now until we get root. There's a noticeable difference in audio quality between my 2 devices. I'm just looking for confirmation from others.
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I don't have the device yet but there should be a difference in sound. The s7 comes with a custom Samsung audio chip (Lucky is the name I believe). Samsung may be taking audio quality seriously now considering they now market high quality headphones.
Now as far as those Beats headphones. Audiotechnia or Vmoda are the way to go![emoji1]
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I don't have the device yet but there should be a difference in sound. The s7 comes with a custom Samsung audio chip (Lucky is the name I believe). Samsung may be taking audio quality seriously now considering they now market high quality headphones.
Now as far as those Beats headphones. Audiotechnia or Vmoda are the way to go![emoji1]
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I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.

LuigiBull23 said:
I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.
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I just received mine yesterday but I did notice something off from the s6. Tested via Android Auto (which uses USB audio) and my Jaybirds. Still good sound quality but not as crisp as the S6. Tweaked the EQ quite a bit but still have more work to do.

LuigiBull23 said:
I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.
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Seriously? I was hoping it sounds better than the s6 since its a new chip made by Samsung. The s6 I believed used a Wolfson.(don't quote me on that). Which apple used in the past. That is really disappointing if the quality is worse than the s6
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Seriously? I was hoping it sounds better than the s6 since its a new chip made by Samsung. The s6 I believed used a Wolfson.(don't quote me on that). Which apple used in the past. That is really disappointing if the quality is worse than the s6
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Looks like I just got confirmation from the user above. Good to know it's not just me. Now, don't get me wrong, the quality isn't BAD but it isn't great either. As I said, it's tolerable but just not as loud and crisp as the S6. We should have more options to enhance audio output once we have root but until then, I'm going to continue trying to play around with the EQ and tweak it just right to mimic that of the S6.

Beats are horrible. Read the reviews. Your issues are due to beats

bash_array said:
Beats are horrible. Read the reviews. Your issues are due to beats
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I guess you misunderstood my post.. First of all, Beats headphones aren't as bad as you claim. There are both pros and cons just like any other piece of technology. Some like them, some don't. They're just decent in my opinion.
The whole point behind my op was that I first noticed a difference in audio quality when comparing the sound outputted from these earbuds on the S6 with that outputted on the S7. The overall sound is definitely much louder and crisp than on my S7. That's all I was saying..
But since you think Beats suck, what would you recommend I try?

Yup. That's why these Beats earphones sound just fine on my S6, right? Once again, you've misconstrued my OP but it's cool... No need to reply. Have a good one.

LuigiBull23 said:
Yup. That's why these Beats earphones sound just fine on my S6, right? Once again, you've misconstrued my OP but it's cool... No need to reply. Have a good one.
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Perhaps bash_array's xda acct. has been hijacked? Hard to believe someone with more "thanks" than posts is a lazy reader AND belligerent. Your s6/s7 comparison is clearly valid regardless of earbuds used. Thanks for sharing your experience.

I use BT in my car and have noticed significant audio quality and clarity

Have you checked under audio experience section in settings?

The dac the exynos devices use is a Wolfson one. All the last generation galaxies use the Wolfson chip since that's what's paired with the exynos. Qualcomm always used their in house dac which is not bad but it's not as good as the Wolfson dac. So that's why the sound quality may differ. I have the note 5 and contemplating getting the exynos s7 edge because of this alone. And also due to the fact that I think I'll be done with rooting
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The dac the exynos devices use is a Wolfson one. All the last generation galaxies use the Wolfson chip since that's what's paired with the exynos. Qualcomm always used their in house dac which is not bad but it's not as good as the Wolfson dac. So that's why the sound quality may differ. I have the note 5 and contemplating getting the exynos s7 edge because of this alone. And also due to the fact that I think I'll be done with rooting
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Thanks man. Definitely explains the difference in the overall quality.

AngioNicholai said:
I use BT in my car and have noticed significant audio quality and clarity
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have you or anyone heard any sort of static or crackling with the bluetooth audio? This was an issue for me in my Note 5. I went through 2 other Note 5's to see if it was the phone and for whatever reason, each Note 5 would play crackling and static audio via bluetooth to my car (a '15 Honda Civic). My nexus 6P works fine though.

Bluetooth sounds great. Plugged into headphone jack and it definitely not as clear. Midrange is gone, treble low. Same aux port on radio, just different 1/8 plug in...one bt, one line in. Headphones don't sound great, but are ok (tolerable)...tried the couple I had around.
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S7 Edge headphone output quality?

I am coming from a One Plus One with V4A and Dolby Atmos, I use my Bose Sie2 earbuds and the music sounds phenomenal. How is the audio output for high end headphones sound on the S7 Edge? It's a major buying criteria of mine, thanks!
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The volume is very low on mine, even at max volume. Once it's rooted I think we can change this but until then you'd have to use a headphone amp.

Simply not good. Noticeable static noise unless turn on UHQ upscaler in settings. (im using shure se535 btw)

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Simply not good. Noticeable static noise unless turn on UHQ upscaler in settings. (im using shure se535 btw)
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That's a bummer. Does turning on UHQ and playing around with the equalizer make any difference?/ have you used V4A on the s7? You say it's not good, but coming from a One Plus One would it be significantly better?
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Looking to pick up the S7 Edge next week, and headphone sound quality is pretty important for me aswell. What variants do you have? im in the UK and have read/heard the Exynos variant has better output

Exynos version here, Shure SE535s, and sound quality is fine. It's not "Audeze open-airs playing FLACs through a custom-tuned amp", but it's good for what I need it for. No static, highs are high, lows are lows, not getting noticable cross-talk or anything like that.

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Exynos version here, Shure SE535s, and sound quality is fine. It's not "Audeze open-airs playing FLACs through a custom-tuned amp", but it's good for what I need it for. No static, highs are high, lows are lows, not getting noticable cross-talk or anything like that.
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Ah brilliant. Ive been using my Shure SE535s with an HTC M8 for the last 2 years, so its good to see you are getting good quality with S7 Edge then with the same earphones, Thanks for the reply man! Aslong as its no worse than the M8, then im not fussed

TwinCalibre said:
Ah brilliant. Ive been using my Shure SE535s with an HTC M8 for the last 2 years, so its good to see you are getting good quality with S7 Edge then with the same earphones, Thanks for the reply man! Aslong as its no worse than the M8, then im not fussed
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I have my s6 and an iPhone lying about - I'll try comparing it to those two.
I will say that I don't have a volume issue with the Shures - even walking through Paris or riding the Métro, I never turn the sound from Spotify (downloaded locally, Extreme quality) up over half or one notch up from there. I do use foam tips.

big_adventure said:
I have my s6 and an iPhone lying about - I'll try comparing it to those two.
I will say that I don't have a volume issue with the Shures - even walking through Paris or riding the Métro, I never turn the sound from Spotify (downloaded locally, Extreme quality) up over half or one notch up from there. I do use foam tips.
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A comparison would be cool mate if its no trouble! Oh wow thats pretty good tbh. I tend to have my M8 on 3/4 or so on the volume slider.

I had noticed a slight degrade in quality.
Rooted and Installed Viper Audio and noticeable improvement

S7Edge, tried them with my 150ohms Sennheiser PC350SE. no static, volume is good, and quality is great.

FalconFX said:
S7Edge, tried them with my 150ohms Sennheiser PC350SE. no static, volume is good, and quality is great.
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What Variant? Exynos or SD?

TwinCalibre said:
What Variant? Exynos or SD?
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Exynos

Thanks for all these amazing replies! Also confirmed for a few users that had a One Plus One that the audio is greatly superior to this phone.
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How is the sound quality in the NON QUAD DAC version?

Hi guys, just want to know how is the sound quality in the NON QUAD DAC version. Is it good enough? Maybe like the HTC 10, Axon 7 or Galaxy S7 sound quality? I know it must be worse than the QUAD DAC version, but how much worse? Is it still worth it or if i'm looking for a good sound smartphone i should look for another one? Where i live the version being sold is the 32GB H870.

Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)

kabirjedi said:
Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)
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It's that bad? It doesn't has a more simple DAC? It's using the Qualcomm one?

Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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godofpornings said:
Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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That's sad to hear. I'm not going to buy it then.

I think it sounds pretty good.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
Offcorse it all depends on headphones. If you have cheap, ****ty headphones no amount of DAC can help you.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I think it sounds pretty great.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, very close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
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Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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godofpornings said:
Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.
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No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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godofpornings said:
No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.

WstrKuNoužč said:
As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.
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Yeah that's true. I'm using the hi Res headfones I got from the HTC 10. The g6 has no DAC. The sound quality is very poor for a flagship phone for £600 I must say. But each to there own.
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I use the free vlc player and the 10 level equalizer along with my library of flac music. I run it onto my fender audio system (jetta) via Bluetooth and the sound is incredible. Deep bass, great mids and vocals. The sound with the headphone jack into the aux port isn't noticably better. I highly recommend vlc's free player, I had no idea that it would sound so good. Just play around with each equalizer level till your music sounds the way you want it to. Make sure you start with the levels flat, then go from there. I also put my music on a 128gb Samsung microsdxc card which I purchased on Amazon for only 30.99 I also highly recommend this card. Not as fast as more expensive cards but sound quality can't be beat. Model MB-MP128D. Peace..

Sound is OK it's not bad. But compared to my V10 the sound pales. Not as clean output or wide/deep sound signature.
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LOL. Every digital device that outputs sound has to have a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter), it just converts those 1 and 0 binary codes to electric signal. It's just the quality differs due to price. Some DACs have enough power on their own to drive small headphones, what sets "audiophile" smartphones apart is the addition of an Amp, it takes the electric signal from DAC and amplifies it to drive more power to large headphones with high impedance.

Is there any point in keeping my g5 for its b&o dac or not I have a s8 now well law has had it 6months

Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.

Windforce0511 said:
Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.
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Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1

Normal one doesn't sound very good but with quad-DAC it is outstanding IMO.

quadacless g6 sound big nothing....

tech_head said:
Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1
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How is it compared to Google's one? I know adapter from Google is sounding 99% same as one from Iphone. I haven't tried Google one yet, but one from Iphone is very powerfull and have wide sound stage. I don't know where tu buy it btw..