I have a very odd problem that I can't solve nor diagnose, my device (N9005) keeps rebooting at no expected pattern if I changed CPU governor to anything but interactive or under-voltage.
The problem started about a year or so ago and since then I have tried lots of roms, kernels and batteries if they had something to do with it but I can't understand why the reboot happen.
I can record a cat log if it would show the problem and if someone can help identify the cause of it or if someone already familiar with this problem and solve it would be much better.
I would appreciate any suggestions in order to try and solve the issue.
What happens with stock rom ??
JJEgan said:
What happens with stock rom ??
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You mean AOSP or TW? since both can be considered stock in different ways xD
Anyway, the behavior is the same on either but the problem started while on Temasek's ROM last year which was and still my main rom.
Samsung stock TW .
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JJEgan said:
Samsung stock TW .
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Aha, and same thing happen as mentioned earlier.
tharwat96 said:
Aha, and same thing happen as mentioned earlier.
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Check your CPU binning (pvs) and read about it. You might find answers.
zlazaar said:
Check your CPU binning (pvs) and read about it. You might find answers.
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Thank you very much for the suggestion. However, after reading about it which is a very new concept for me so thank you again for that, I understood it affects overclocking speeds and tolerance but I still don't understand what could it mean to my case.
One thing I forgot to mention or implicitly mentioned is that, I used to use conservative or powersave governors and used to undervolt by 25mv till the problem occured.
Also, I think checking device's CPU binning method differs from a device to another (not sure if I'm right) but I tried a command found on OPO's site and it didn't show an actual output but it showed a 1 before the usual command line and I don't know if it means anything but thought of mentioning it anyway.
tharwat96 said:
Thank you very much for the suggestion. However, after reading about it which is a very new concept for me so thank you again for that, I understood it affects overclocking speeds and tolerance but I still don't understand what could it mean to my case.
One thing I forgot to mention or implicitly mentioned is that, I used to use conservative or powersave governors and used to undervolt by 25mv till the problem occured.
Also, I think checking device's CPU binning method differs from a device to another (not sure if I'm right) but I tried a command found on OPO's site and it didn't show an actual output but it showed a 1 before the usual command line and I don't know if it means anything but thought of mentioning it anyway.
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You can find your soc's pvs by navigating to /sys/devices/system/soc/soc0 then open the file "soc_pvs" with a text viewer.
There will be an integer (from 1 to 6).
1 means best support for undervolt/overclock. And 6 the worst one.
Your phone reboots when you just set different governor (no undervoltage applied) ? And which governor you set ?
zlazaar said:
You can find your soc's pvs by navigating to /sys/devices/system/soc/soc0 then open the file "soc_pvs" with a text viewer.
There will be an integer (from 1 to 6).
1 means best support for undervolt/overclock. And 6 the worst one.
Your phone reboots when you just set different governor (no undervoltage applied) ? And which governor you set ?
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I just checked and it is actually 1 .
The governor I was trying to set was Yankactive/ondemand.
There's a chance that the problem is actually fixed but I'm still not sure. However, if it's solved the reason would be ridiculous actually but compounded into 2 parts and I'm not sure if one of them it the main cause or both but they are the most recent changes which led to the current stability with no reboots since 2 hours now.
The first part is the SELinux status which was enforcing and had to change it to permissive for any heavy change otherwise it won't work and it kept changing after every reboot so what I did is forcing it to change to permissive on each boot. and it helped a lot but I'm not sure how it affected my situation.
The second part is that I was using PowerNap xposed module and there's a chance that it force stops the android system. I also have no idea how this contribute to solving my problem since the problem existed before even installing xposed.
Anyway, I'm still testing the device to see if it's actually solved.
tharwat96 said:
Thank you very much for your reply.
I just checked and it is actually 1 .
The governor I was trying to set was Yankactive/ondemand.
There's a chance that the problem is actually fixed but I'm still not sure. However, if it's solved the reason would be ridiculous actually but compounded into 2 parts and I'm not sure if one of them it the main cause or both but they are the most recent changes which led to the current stability with no reboots since 2 hours now.
The first part is the SELinux status which was enforcing and had to change it to permissive for any heavy change otherwise it won't work and it kept changing after every reboot so what I did is forcing it to change to permissive on each boot. and it helped a lot but I'm not sure how it affected my situation.
The second part is that I was using PowerNap xposed module and there's a chance that it force stops the android system. I also have no idea how this contribute to solving my problem since the problem existed before even installing xposed.
Anyway, I'm still testing the device to see if it's actually solved.
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Sorry i did a mistake.
The higher the PVS bin value the better. This means 1 is not good.
I have the value of 1 on my Note 3 and undervolt by 30 with zero problems. Also i change between interactive and performace govs a dozen times a day.
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Sorry i did a mistake.
The higher the PVS bin value the better. This means 1 is not good.
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Undervolting aside, shouldn't I be able to change governors no matter the PVS bin value? since it matters the most while overclocking and I'm trying to do the opposite
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I have the value of 1 on my Note 3 and undervolt by 30 with zero problems. Also i change between interactive and performace govs a dozen times a day.
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I used to do too but no clue what happened on newer Android versions. BTW, which ROM and Kernel you are on?
Kernel: CivZ-KK_Xplorer-Rev1.9
Rom: Omega 4.4.2 v24
I am using both Synapse and Kernel Toolkit for CPU/GPU tweaking, as they wok well together (on the other hand Kernel Adiutor conflicts with Synapse).
In case you want to know, the battery goes down 1% every hour or so in idle and about 1% every 3 minutes of using the phone with screen on (browsing, gaming, etc).
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Kernel: CivZ-KK_Xplorer-Rev1.9
Rom: Omega 4.4.2 v24
I am using both Synapse and Kernel Toolkit for CPU/GPU tweaking, as they wok well together (on the other hand Kernel Adiutor conflicts with Synapse).
In case you want to know, the battery goes down 1% every hour or so in idle and about 1% every 3 minutes of using the phone with screen on (browsing, gaming, etc).
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I believe your battery is dead?
tharwat96 said:
I believe your battery is dead?
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Why do you say that? It's brand new (bought it original from Samsung, a month ago). One of the few new original batteries left in stock. manufactured at the end of 2014.
Only yesterday (@3%) i got 4 hours of gaming in Retroarch emulator (pretty intensive on the CPU), with a total of 4 h and 40 min SOT, with the Note charged to full 21 hours before that. Pretty decent performance imo.
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Why do you say that? It's brand new (bought it original from Samsung, a month ago). One of the few new original batteries left in stock. manufactured at the end of 2014.
Only yesterday (@3%) i got 4 hours of gaming in Retroarch emulator (pretty intensive on the CPU), with a total of 4 h and 40 min SOT, with the Note charged to full 21 hours before that. Pretty decent performance imo.
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O.O I'm terribly sorry I somehow misread your post.
I was confused when I read it since I was actually sticked to SlimKat before switching to nougat because of the battery.
BTW, what is your usual SOT without heavy usage?
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O.O I'm terribly sorry I somehow misread your post.
I was confused when I read it since I was actually sticked to SlimKat before switching to nougat because of the battery.
BTW, what is your usual SOT without heavy usage?
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Well, it depends on how bright the image is. That is if you watch some darker images or pages, it consumes less than white ones.
If i unplug it in the morning (i usually unplug it in the evening), the SOT is a sure 5 hours, with some 5 % left in the evening.
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Well, it depends on how bright the image is. That is if you watch some darker images or pages, it consumes less than white ones.
If i unplug it in the morning (i usually unplug it in the evening), the SOT is a sure 5 hours, with some 5 % left in the evening.
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Aha, now with RR nougat and synergy the consumption is very close to yours.
tharwat96 said:
Aha, now with RR nougat and synergy the consumption is very close to yours.
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Great Should be even better overall with that deep sleep option that nougat has.
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Great Should be even better overall with that deep sleep option that nougat has.
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When the device doze the battery percentage gets stuck for how long you may leave the device idle, it's pretty impressive
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Hello everyone...
I have 2 issues with my Transformer
the first one is that whenever i leave my Transformer for couple hours it shuts down !! doesn't occur when charging but it does when it's not.. even when the battery is around 80% !! i had this problem with ALL kernels except the stock kernel which i don't wanna use !! also had this problem for around 2 months...
the second one happened today when i left my Transformer "Charged" at 100%.. and after couple of hours i found it shut down but when i powered it on again i found the battery 27% !!
i went to the battery stats and found that battery was decreasing slowly and there was a gap (which means that it turned off) and after the gap it shows the battery low !! it happened within 6 hours !!
Please help me if you can... !! I'm using Revolver ROM 3.9.5 and "Blades Kernel 3" that comes in the Revolver Parts...
UPDATE : The problem occurs with the stock kernel !!
This sounds very familiar to the problem I had with my Galaxy S2 a month ago.
It kept shutting down every few hours, and it was driving me mad. Then one day I uninstalled the app greenpower, and it was fine afterwards. You don't have the greenpower app by any chance? If not, maybe it can be caused by some other app you normally use?
The battery might be hosed. Have you ever let it hit 0 before? A lot of batteries never fully recover after being fully depleted once or twice.
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This sounds very familiar to the problem I had with my Galaxy S2 a month ago.
It kept shutting down every few hours, and it was driving me mad. Then one day I uninstalled the app greenpower, and it was fine afterwards. You don't have the greenpower app by any chance? If not, maybe it can be caused by some other app you normally use?
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I never heard of this app... Just like i said it doesn't happen with the stock kernel !!
But the reason I'm using other kernels is because i wanna Overclock !!
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The battery might be hosed. Have you ever let it hit 0 before? A lot of batteries never fully recover after being fully depleted once or twice.
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No i never let it hit 0%... but i don't think that the problem is in the battery
However I'll try it and see what happens !
sounds like a silly question but i have seen it alot. Are you charging through a computer(USB) or wall?
It could be related to setCPU and the according profiles. Just recently I saw that my profiles were messed up after updating ROM and kernel. Might be worth a shot.
Reinstall stock kernel Issue #1 fixed.
Issue 2 sounds like charger shut off and left TF on not charging.
You've pretty much explained to yourself why the thing is shutting down.. It works fine on the stock kernel but not one that is letting you overclock.. Sounds to me like you are either overclocking more than it can handle or undervolting to much or both.
I can almost bet that its not shutting down completely and its just going into a state that the screen is off but the OS is hung up, so its not responding to you turning the screen on.. This would explain why the battery seems to be dieing when its sitting idle.
Not sure about it dieing while its plugged in other than maybe a fluke.
I don't wanna use the stock kernel.. it's really slow !!
and i over clock to 1.4 ghz only since i can't overclock more than that because it restarts itself endlessly if i overclocked more than 1.4 ghz !! i undervolted about -25 or -50.. not much !!
Yes i charge it on a wall or anything but NOT on my computer...
How can i change profiles in setcpu ??
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No i never let it hit 0%... but i don't think that the problem is in the battery
However I'll try it and see what happens !
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No no you misunderstood! DONT let the battery hit 0.
First, you need to use more exclamation points !!!!
sounds like you are suffering from deep sleep issues. What rom are you running? also, have you tried running a custom kernel and not overclock it? You have several variables that can be influencing your issues, start isolating what may be causing your problems. the kernel seems the must likely of culprits, I would clear the overclock and install setcpu and run it for a but and see if you can replicate your issue.
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Just try the non stock kernel, oc it but dont uv it, not all devices can handle uv, even if it is only a little bit. Even take it back too 1000mhz and try to increase the uv and oc by little bits at a time to see exactly what your transformer can handle. I think its the uv thats causing the problems. Experiment a bit and youll find the sweet spot.
I'm using Revolver ROM and i mentioned that...
I've never undervolted till yestersay.. maybe it caused the second problem
I set the clock speed at 1ghz and i'm waiting to see if anything changes..
Yeah... the problem still occurs even after setting the clock speed at 1ghz and default voltage !! using clemsyn kernel ver 22...
Every device is different. Differences in manufacturing etc. You might have a picky device. Plus these are mobile platforms. No fans, just convection cooling. They are not meant to be tweaked and oc'ed they way we do. The stock kernel is very fast. What is it that you cannot do on the stock kernel that the extreme oc let's you do?
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Every device is different. Differences in manufacturing etc. You might have a picky device. Plus these are mobile platforms. No fans, just convection cooling. They are not meant to be tweaked and oc'ed they way we do. The stock kernel is very fast. What is it that you cannot do on the stock kernel that the extreme oc let's you do?
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I'm guessing my device is bad and it's Asus' problem ! i tried setting the clock speed at normal 1Ghz but the problem still occurs !! the reason i overclock is that because with the stock kernel i get slower web browsing and slower flash playback and slower overall performance!! however I'm back on the stock kernel to check out if the problem is gone or not...
I doubted my device couple months ago... because I've seen everyone overclock their devices at 1.6 GHz Without any issues !! but when i try to overclock a little bit more than 1.4 GHz it restarts itself endlessly !!
Had the same issue a few months ago. Be prepared to wake up to a dead TF.
I sent it back to ASUS and they replaced main board and battery. Under warranty of course. I suggest you unroot and use a stock rom for now.
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Had the same issue a few months ago. Be prepared to wake up to a dead TF.
I sent it back to ASUS and they replaced main board and battery. Under warranty of course. I suggest you unroot and use a stock rom for now.
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What do you exactly mean by "for now" ??
and how can i even send it to ASUS ??! i don't live in the USA
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I'm guessing my device is bad and it's Asus' problem !!!
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You stated in an earlier post that the problem does not show up in the stock ASUS setup, but only with a custom ROM and Kernel. How does that make it ASUS' problem. If you buy a car that says it runs on 87 octane fuel and you put 100% nitro methane in the tank and it blows up it is not the manufacturers fault.
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Yes you will need to unlock your bootloader, install a custom recovery, and root. Then you download the franco kernel zip and flash it through recovery.
OP = original post
Nightly = means the latest build (they are compiled every night, and may have bugs)
Milestone = usually means a complete version (stable releases)
Milestone = stable version
Nightly = newer version may contain bugs
U first need to root your device and download the Franco kernel zip and place it in your extSdCard. Once rooted goto recovery (volume up + home + power) select install zip from external card. Browse to file select then install... And enjoy...
Make sure u know wot you doing. Read first n read alot before any action else you may brick your device.
:*: Neebi :*:
also you can buy the app and it install the flash by itself,
i guess you still need to root
since you don´t game it`s weird to have bad battery, try greenify
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Please search first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266654
Nexus 4 Guide-Unlock Bootloader, Root, Install Custom Recoveries & Custom ROMs/Kernel
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okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't do that.
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easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Your apps will make the biggest difference. Stop apps causing wake locks such as Facebook and anything with auto refreshing/push alerts.
The biggest benefit for me of using Franco is adjusting color profiles. Once you try other settings, you'll never go back to stock colors.
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easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't change this I'm afraid, and 3G will always use pretty much battery. Wifi on the other hand uses nearly nothing.
If you say you're not a heavy user then Franco's Kernel will be a good one for ya. As it contains hotplugging (meaning it will make the device slower if it's not used but fast when you want it to be)
Slower = more battery conservation.
Also let's you underclock your device. As for example you don't play games so you don't want it at 1512Mhz, you can run it at 1ghz and the time your screen is off lock it to 384Mhz (or a bit higher) which again makes your battery last longer.
It comes to a small downside, that kernel comes with its own app which costs a bit of money. But it's very much worth it as you can tweak it just as you want.
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"unfortunatly" you need root before you can flash this. But there have been very useful links in previous posts, try those!
Then if you've done all that, look into Greenify. You'll notice a difference when using it, trust me
enjoy
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
alvin182 said:
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
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That's definatly not the cause of Franco, but most propably some other apps rogueing. Try Greenify.
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It's maybe the case with nightlies on particular devices.
I'm not the one to judge on that but on Milestones (Milestone 2 aka latest) there is nearly no battery consumption in idle and I've used Franco since r102 (newest is r136)
In the including pic I had flashed Milestone 2 from Franco, then afterwards changed some values in the app to my liking (aka max freq 1350, min freq 384 etc...) and then left it be for a couple hours and look at the result. Lost maybe 1% over nearly 4 hours. If I leave it on generally over night on wifi + data sync enabled, I lose about 2-3% (depending on the sync times ofc). I sleep approx 6h a night btw
Also feel free looking here and see all the positive comments of people and their battery! (also one of the most active and responsive forum topics around)
Therefore I highly recommend Franco!
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
easygoingx said:
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
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They sure are.. but you can take a pick from like 30-35 presets (using Franco's preset myself). Trust me, the result is just... awesome! (if you prefer AMOLED (cause you refered to an S3, you can also change colors to that, it's in the spreadsheet here (check kernel column to see for your chosen kernel))
easygoingx said:
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
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I doubt that there is a way around the battery drain with 2G/3G/3G+ but just having a different kernel will do miracles concerning battery life. Always feel free to ask this in the thread, maybe someone has a "solution" to your issue.
I don't know how often you're without wifi. But just make a tasker task like I have:
- "if wifi connected (=state)-> Data off"
- "if not wifi connected -> Data on"
easygoingx said:
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
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Don't worry about it too much. The nexus 4 is known for having bad thermal handling inside the phone (read this) but it won't harm your phone in any way.
If however you are still worried just download the kernel and go to "Voltages", just press-25mV a couple times (I recommend 3 or 4x). This will reduce the heat generated from your device. (Yes your device can handle this, even more but I'm not responsible )
Another thing is what is getting hot inside your device, battery or CPU? Franco Kernel Updater (app) has Device Monitor which let's you check the CPU temps. If the CPU gets warm/hot too often or too fast, just reducing the max CPU frequency can help you out (1.5Ghz is "too" much anyway, you'll be fine with a couple steps less )
Hope this helped If you have more questions that I could answer, just quote me
Hello everybody!
I have a Note 3 N900, 5.0, L19, dr ketan rom. This problem existed even on stock, and on stock KitKat.
I have a problem with the battery percentage. The battery percentage goes down at a rate of, for example when browsing the web on Chrome, 2%-4% a minute!
Overall, the battery life is not good during to this problem, as you guys can imagine. Tried to do a battery cycle (emptying the battery and charging to full) with no success...
Bought 2 new (!) batteries, but still, with no luck.
What the he** can be the problem if not from the ROM itself?
Thank you!
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charge always with original wall charger :good:
dancapitan said:
charge always with original wall charger :good:
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Since I had the phone, I charged it always with the original wall charger. Always. That's not the problem...
Azar_98 said:
EXACT same with my s4 i9500. no matter which rom, give it official lollipop, custom roms, cm12, cm11, official 4.4, my battery sucks in all of them. my battery decreases about 2%/minute with ANDROID system being the most battery hug in battery details, in ever rom i use since couple of months back.
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This is annoying.
Anyone has any idea?
Azar_98 said:
i guess this is bcz of the phone itself not the battery. couple of yrs ago i had a nokia 5800, and after 6 months of use, it started to lose charge. even without using it it would stay for slightly more than 1 hour. i got it to repair center, and they tested out with new batteries, etc, and still they couldnt solve it so they exchanged it with N8. i sugges you to take it to the repair shop before the warranty ends if it hasnt ended yet. or should get a replacement unit. my s4 has 2 years of warranty btw. i also need to visit the repair shop some time.
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hhhhhhh well, the warranty has already expired, but even if I had one, I couldn't get it to a repair center to fulfill my warranty, because, well, I'm rooted
Well, when the phone isn't in use, it won't lose almost much at all... It was always when the screen is on, for some reason.... The weird thing is, that I can't see anything out of the ordinary in BBS/Wakelock Detector/Battery section on settings....
Weird......
Azar_98 said:
Here in Qatar they're too stupid for everything so all I need to do is install a UAE official kitkat without rooting and then giving them. Also this year on may, a hardware-wise problem happened to my Xperia tab z, and it wasn't booting up at all. I knew it was nothing to do with software, it was a hardware failure so they replaced it and it was rooted. However since jt wasnt booting up they had no way to check root. Idk if I've been cursed at or something, every device of mine needs to go to repair at least once in its lifetime. I have recently bought an HP laptop and now the screen doesn't turn off when I close the lid, it doesn't even detect the lid at all. This also hardware wise...
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Replacing is not an option for me as I have no extra money to spend right now, while I can't send it to Samsung center and claim for warranty as my warranty has expired already...
No other solutions?
try a 10.000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
i have it and it's amazing, i get around 20 hours of screen on time :good:
dancapitan said:
try a 10.000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
i have it and it's amazing, i get around 20 hours of screen on time :good:
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Hhhhhhh no thx man, I don't want to carry a tank in my pocket....
raied115 said:
Hhhhhhh no thx man, I don't want to carry a tank in my pocket....
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Can you give us more specific info about what's using your battery?
Install BetterBatteryStats and send some screenshots, this is an extreme problem I can tell. There must be something keeping your phone in full power all the time.
How hot is your device? Believe it or not, the battery gets affected extremely by heat since it Lithium-ion.
What apps do you have installed? Apps like Facebook and similar will cause consumption.
There's a lot of things that affect the battery.
BunnyPig said:
Can you give us more specific info about what's using your battery?
Install BetterBatteryStats and send some screenshots, this is an extreme problem I can tell. There must be something keeping your phone in full power all the time.
How hot is your device? Believe it or not, the battery gets affected extremely by heat since it Lithium-ion.
What apps do you have installed? Apps like Facebook and similar will cause consumption.
There's a lot of things that affect the battery.
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Take a look at these.
I, personally, can't see anything special. Do you?
According do those screenshots you have excellent battery life! I don't even get half of that. The screen of your note 3 takes up lots of power. What I can suggest is to change you max Cpu frequency to 1490mhz and go for the intellidemand governor. The snapdragon 800 is powerful enough to run smoothly with that frequency. Try it and report back if it did any changes.
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According do those screenshots you have excellent battery life! I don't even get half of that. The screen of your note 3 takes up lots of power. What I can suggest is to change you max Cpu frequency to 1490mhz and go for the intellidemand governor. The snapdragon 800 is powerful enough to run smoothly with that frequency. Try it and report back if it did any changes.
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Thanks for the reply!
It wasn't like that... it was more!
But as I wrote, it's a N900, so I have the Exynos, does the frequency you suggested will change?
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raied115 said:
Thanks for the reply!
It wasn't like that... it was more!
But as I wrote, it's a N900, so I have the Exynos, does the frequency you suggested will change?
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Oh right! I'm sorry, I missed that part. But just try to underclock your CPU a little bit and you should see a increase in battery life. Just try whatever frequency you want, the only thing that might happen is a slow device (you basically can't break the phone with underclocking, in fact, it's better for the CPU). Remember to change your governor to Intellidemand or Intellimand (can't remember the exact name).
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Oh right! I'm sorry, I missed that part. But just try to underclock your CPU a little bit and you should see a increase in battery life. Just try whatever frequency you want, the only thing that might happen is a slow device (you basically can't break the phone with underclocking, in fact, it's better for the CPU). Remember to change your governor to Intellidemand or Intellimand (can't remember the exact name).
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I don't think that there are working custom kernel for the 5.0 N900... shame there's almost no more development for our phone..
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i have this same **** problem
Ok, even with two new batteries and a few battery cycles with them, the percentage won't stabilize... Today the battery ran down to zero, and the phone continued to run (on 0%) for about 20 min..............
After replacing the battery, I was on 100%, dialed *#0228# and did the "RUN TEST" and the percentage went down to 23%. Dialed again and it went up to 82% and charged it. I can't seem to find a godda** solution for this problem!
What can I do to solve this?!!
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Hi xda family
What has everyone's battery life been so far on root?
Preroot I was getting over a day with 6sot and 16 percent
Android drain.
After rooting with the eng kernel it has dipped a lot with high android system drain. Have not used amplify and greenify yet. Just been used my tweaks I did on pd7 kernel.
Thoughts?
Amplify will probably help out a lot. I've seen others reporting the battery is worse after rooting as well. Hopefully someone nails it down and posts a fix. If not, I'll see what I can do once (if) I decide to root.
Yeah I can literally watch my battery % drop after root. I noticed 46% of use is the android system. I'm also getting lots of random reboots.
You guys rooted with an EngBoot that was not intended for daily use, this is one of the side effects.
Yeah the ENG-BOOT is a terrible way to achieve root. I really hope that this tiny victory doesn't cause people to stop looking for real root. The ENG-BOOT is not meant for daily use is going to cause lots of issues, it's designed just to push fixes to the system for an authorized repair shop.
The focus should have always been on the bootloader.
MegaNoob said:
Yeah I can literally watch my battery % drop after root. I noticed 46% of use is the android system. I'm also getting lots of random reboots.
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Wow 46 is high. To be honest for eng kernel it's been stable. No lag and reboots for me. I am debloating and doing a few tweaks and making it settle in some more. If I can get to 4 sot I will take that.
Also I have heard if you your governor set to on demand it will cause reboots. Using interactive and been solid.
MegaNoob said:
Yeah I can literally watch my battery % drop after root. I noticed 46% of use is the android system. I'm also getting lots of random reboots.
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Same. This is worse than my old s6 back in the glory days.
I recommend checking out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ekx-dev-deodex-systemui-3minit-multi-t3411776
TEK knows what he's doing, so I'm sure this will at least help with battery. This, plus Amplify and BBS+ should at least help get battery close to where it was before root.
AKW said:
I recommend checking out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ekx-dev-deodex-systemui-3minit-multi-t3411776
TEK knows what he's doing, so I'm sure this will at least help with battery. This, plus Amplify and BBS+ should at least help get battery close to where it was before root.
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Thanks I am following. I have gotten android system drain down to 13 percent with amplify.
Things are looking very promising but will see how the next 48 hours go.
icugotit2 said:
Thanks I am following. I have gotten android system drain down to 13 percent with amplify.
Things are looking very promising but will see how the next 48 hours go.
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Excellent. Keep us posted.
AKW said:
I recommend checking out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ekx-dev-deodex-systemui-3minit-multi-t3411776
TEK knows what he's doing, so I'm sure this will at least help with battery. This, plus Amplify and BBS+ should at least help get battery close to where it was before root.
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+1 it runs a lot cooler than the normal stock rooted. And way smoother without have to tweak anything with kernel. It's basically plug and play.
Keep us informed please
guaneet said:
+1 it runs a lot cooler than the normal stock rooted. And way smoother without have to tweak anything with kernel. It's basically plug and play.
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Indeed it does run much cooler and smoother too .
I went ahead and pushed it without re odining I r factory reset without anything bad happening . Temps are back to 38degc as opposed to almost 60degc without texhd. All idle. Happy
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cuezaireekaa said:
Indeed it does run much cooler and smoother too .
I went ahead and pushed it without re odining I r factory reset without anything bad happening . Temps are back to 38degc as opposed to almost 60degc without texhd. All idle. Happy
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Can you post sot time stats and Android usage with teks rom?
I was able to get 5 sot and 1 day of usage. Android drain was at 14 percent.
Sot time and battery tweaks
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Can you post sot time stats and Android usage with teks rom?
I was able to get 5 sot and 1 day of usage. Android drain was at 14 percent.
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Also, vp7 has an excellent tool guide to tweak out even more battery life. Had advanced setting for amplify etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Have not tried the above link or Teks rom yet.
If some one can do so it would be helpful as I am running stock eng with my own customizations
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Can you post sot time stats and Android usage with teks rom?
I was able to get 5 sot and 1 day of usage. Android drain was at 14 percent.
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I'm reodining because it was suggested to do when updating to texhd 1.5
dam we got root now? I didnt even know
With all the different tweaks now available through root, the battery life is quite excellent. The only concerning thing is how hot this phone can get at times (after a reboot, gaming, downloading an app) that I may be doing great harm to my batteries life in the long run.
okay so,
the engineering kernel's default governor is performance and that's the only thing that's causing the heat issues and thus, the throttling of the CPU cores to lower frequencies resulting in lag/stuttery performance. that's all you're experiencing. thinking that apps are using more/less battery than usual is silly.
after wiping data and cache and going through the horribly slow setup process, I used kernel adiutor to change the governor back to interactive (NOT ondemand) and let the phone finish settling/syncing. after 2 days, it's back to its silky smooth performance and all-day battery. I don't see anyone experiencing anything other than symptoms of the performance governor.
btw, it took the same amount of time for my phone to stop being laggy when I first bought it. so literally all you need to do is change your governor back to interactive if you want the performance/battery life you had before, and zero heat issues. antutu scores 110k-138k depending on temperature/throttling. just like it did before. battery gets 4:30-5:30hrs SOT just like it did before.
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yalls trippin
xVermicide said:
okay so,
the engineering kernel's default governor is performance and that's the only thing that's causing the heat issues and thus, the throttling of the CPU cores to lower frequencies resulting in lag/stuttery performance. that's all you're experiencing. thinking that apps are using more/less battery than usual is silly.
after wiping data and cache and going through the horribly slow setup process, I used kernel adiutor to change the governor back to interactive (NOT ondemand) and let the phone finish settling/syncing. after 2 days, it's back to its silky smooth performance and all-day battery. I don't see anyone experiencing anything other than symptoms of the performance governor.
btw, it took the same amount of time for my phone to stop being laggy when I first bought it. so literally all you need to do is change your governor back to interactive if you want the performance/battery life you had before, and zero heat issues. antutu scores 110k-138k depending on temperature/throttling. just like it did before. battery gets 4:30-5:30hrs SOT just like it did before.
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yalls trippin
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I used kernel aduitor too till I found out my big core were maxed at 1500 also just like the little cores and you can't change those with aduitor.
Once I installed kernel toolkit, I confirmed it.
So I bumped up the big cores max and got much more speed back. No heat here
Food for thought.
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Either i'm not looking hard enough, or i'm just not finding any decent guides on in-depth tweaking in kernels, what does what (with examples, because a lot of the time, only certain types of people can grasp what an explanation of a setting or value does), whether certain groups of values are synergetic (changing one value can have an effect on another value, good or bad; not using 1 setting when another setting is active), stuff like that. I took screenshots of everything in EXKM, except for the governor parameters, i didn't change what the kernel has for defaults with the Wheatley governor.
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Either i'm not looking hard enough, or i'm just not finding any decent guides on in-depth tweaking in kernels, what does what (with examples, because a lot of the time, only certain types of people can grasp what an explanation of a setting or value does), whether certain groups of values are synergetic (changing one value can have an effect on another value, good or bad; not using 1 setting when another setting is active), stuff like that. I took screenshots of everything in EXKM, except for the governor parameters, i didn't change what the kernel has for defaults with the Wheatley governor.
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Well, you definitely have the right program, I used to think Kernel Adiutor was the best kernel tweaker of all times, so I bought it, with no additional benefit
Not long ago or yesterday, ( Lol ) I finally decided to spend a few dollars and buy Ex Kernel Manager, its very satisfying to use with its beautiful design and extensive features. One awesome feature of EXKM is the ability to save your profile to widgets so you can quickly change to a saved profile for balance, battery or speed.
Because my original X727 suffered from chip death early last month, I am hesitant to use overclocking and probably never will again. Honestly, the phone is still extremely fast when underclocking and the battery life is amazing.
Below are a couple of screenshots. Maybe later, when I have time I will make an extensive post with all of the small details or better yet someone else does it.
tsongming said:
Well, you definitely have the right program, I used to think Kernel Adiutor was the best kernel tweaker of all times, so I bought it, with no additional benefit
Not long ago or yesterday, ( Lol ) I finally decided to spend a few dollars and buy Ex Kernel Manager, its very satisfying to use with its beautiful design and extensive features. One awesome feature of EXKM is the ability to save your profile to widgets so you can quickly change to a saved profile for balance, battery or speed.
Because my original X727 suffered from chip death early last month, I am hesitant to use overclocking and probably never will again. Honestly, the phone is still extremely fast when underclocking and the battery life is amazing.
Below are a couple of screenshots. Maybe later, when I have time I will make an extensive post with all of the small details or better yet someone else does it.
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lol my battery life is half of yours ;p And how exactly where u overclocking it, by changing the voltages? And yeah it's a fast phone for the money, I haven't found a game yet that it doesn't run smoothly on..
A couple things I've been noticing lately, one is fast charge hasn't been working lately even when selected. Not sure if it's the cable or the rom or what. And also I've noticed the charge times change when I flip over the usb-c connector when plugging it in..again i dunno if thats cause of the cable or if usb-c is meant to be that way
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lol my battery life is half of yours ;p And how exactly where u overclocking it, by changing the voltages? And yeah it's a fast phone for the money, I haven't found a game yet that it doesn't run smoothly on..
A couple things I've been noticing lately, one is fast charge hasn't been working lately even when selected. Not sure if it's the cable or the rom or what. And also I've noticed the charge times change when I flip over the usb-c connector when plugging it in..again i dunno if thats cause of the cable or if usb-c is meant to be that way
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The charge speed is not static, it fluctuates otherwise it will shorten the life of the battery. The speed can be improved upon by switching the kernel. For example, Black Screen 5.4 uses the higher rate charging, it also allows you to change voltage frequencies, which I don't recommend. I fried my old X727 early last month, by simply restoring Google settings..
If you are using the stock Leeco cable, get rid of it and but an Anker cable instead. Some of the stock cables were really bad quality and quite a few people burned their ports due to faulty cables.
Concerning battery life, Right now AICP 14 has the best battery life.
It also has the new perf profiles extracted from EUI. It is my understanding (?) that this was extracted and made compatible by Max 2 developer : shivatejapeddi.
He made a comment on telegram stating that he may build a flashable zip for Zl1 that could be flashed on any rom to improve the battery life.
Lets hope, that would be awesome.
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The charge speed is not static, it fluctuates otherwise it will shorten the life of the battery. The speed can be improved upon by switching the kernel. For example, Black Screen 5.4 uses the higher rate charging, it also allows you to change voltage frequencies, which I don't recommend. I fried my old X727 early last month, by simply restoring Google settings..
If you are using the stock Leeco cable, get rid of it and but an Anker cable instead. Some of the stock cables were really bad quality and quite a few people burned their ports due to faulty cables.
Concerning battery life, Right now AICP 14 has the best battery life.
It also has the new perf profiles extracted from EUI. It is my understanding (?) that this was extracted and made compatible by Max 2 developer : shivatejapeddi.
He made a comment on telegram stating that he may build a flashable zip for Zl1 that could be flashed on any rom to improve the battery life.
Lets hope, that would be awesome.
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Sorry, been too distracted to reply ha. Yeah I don't mess with the voltage frequencies, just try different governors and whatnot...I don't mess with the governor settings much since somet imes it's hard for me to notice any difference , unless it's a huge one. Basically it's jsut me trying to put aside time to focus and I haven't made time, it's all jumbled with other things i do ;p
Actually I lie, I did notice what seemed to me as odd on a few things... i'll toss screenshots. What I dont get is the first boost duration under the CPU Boost at 0... also, the boost frequency, is the mhz it boosts to, or an addon amount.. and just the boost in general, input boost vs touchboost...? next there's the online core count.., max cores online for litl and big make sense, 2 each. Min core online 1, max cores online...2? with an up and down threshold of 0...how does 0 work in this case? NExt is arch_power and wq_power_saving, i've tried looking them up and couldn't find much, so not sure what they doe xactly and what it would hurt/hinder...
Zram, does it hurt to have it on and at full, 2096mb? Just as an extra ceiling, in case I do use all my 6gb, or does having it on but not using it constantly affect anything.. the TCP algorithm i've scoured and couldn't find anything about which ones are good for what types of networks, maybe only a couple of them, so i usually don't play with that since to me it'd be hard to test because of the fluxuation.
Ok that was more than I thought I'd throw out, sorry ;p There's lots more probably, but I don't need to overload mine or yours' head right now ;p
oh.. i was wondering if i posted this or not lol... wasnt sure if the draft had gotten lost or what.. anyways, i was just now going to take screenshots when i rememebred, you can just use the ones from my origianl post ha
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oh.. i was wondering if i posted this or not lol... wasnt sure if the draft had gotten lost or what.. anyways, i was just now going to take screenshots when i rememebred, you can just use the ones from my origianl post ha
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Just now seeing this and no time to respond at the moment. I will answer later.