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King's Kernel - Input Needed

So I basically have Stock 2.2 with a lot of the unnecessary apps removed. The other day I installed King's 4th Kernel hoping for better battery performance but in the end it's a little worse. I'm not blaming the kernel for my performance issues. But I'm looking for feedback to get better battery life.
Right now I am not using Set CPU. I just flashed the ROM, wiped the dalvik cache, and decided not to wipe the battery stats. I've been using the #4 kernel for two days now.
I work my phone pretty hard every day and have a good idea of when it's gonna die. I don't bother bump charging but rather replace the battery with a spare I have on hand.
Any recommendations to fix my problem?
Try a different kernel?
Get Set CPU? I'm not interested in overclocking but I realize other features are available.
Wipe the battery stats?
One thing I can say for certain is that I've been using this kernel with my current setup for 2 days now and battery performance is worse. Something definitely needs to be tweaked in my engine because I shouldn't have to use 3 batteries in one day.
Again, I want to reiterate that I know there are a lot of factors that affect battery life. I'm basing my opinion off of my past battery life throughout the day. It's probably not the kernel but how I have things setup. I'm just looking for some direction to extend the life a bit.

The biggest thing to do will be setcpu. Underclocking during screen off and using conservative governor will drastically improve battery life.

I haven't ever had good luck with the King kernels on my phone. Adrynaline's Custom kernel has worked awesome for me though. Took it off the charger at 11am yesterday, used it regularily and didn't charge until today at 3pm and still had 32% battery left. I use SetCPU for underclocking the phone when the screen is off and that seems to be the best way to save battery. I also don't have anything syncing throughout the day besides gmail accounts.

Ok, well I guess I will start with Set CPU. Sounds like it's worth the cash. Maybe I'll try a different kernel at the same time.
Thanks.

Setcpu is available for free to xda forum members. Do a bit of searching around and you'll find the link to the .apk

Grikshanks said:
The biggest thing to do will be setcpu. Underclocking during screen off and using conservative governor will drastically improve battery life.
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Setting CPU Max at 555 when screen is off took me from 9-14hours to 25-30hours.
Clearing battle stat seems important
I like interactive mode when it seems to be working right. I don't really know what Interactive mode is except that setcpu will show the CPU jumping to differant frequency instead of ramping up like with conservative.
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Jaguox said:
Setcpu is available for free to xda forum members. Do a bit of searching around and you'll find the link to the .apk
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I knew this and had forgotten. Fortunately, right before I dropped the cash the light bulb came on. I appreciate the heads up anyway.
Has anyone had luck with King's Kernels?
srt4mn, do you have a link to the kernel you are using?

The kernel comes with the Virtuous ROM and can be downloaded as a separate entity from ROM Manager in his area.

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The kernel comes with the Virtuous ROM and can be downloaded as a separate entity from ROM Manager in his area.
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Ok, cool. I'll give it a shot. Is it tweaked to work just with the ROM or is it safe to install in Stock 2.2 as well?

Clambert11- Sounds as if you wrote your post for me. I haven't tried a custom rom or kernel yet but KK was the what I was considering. I do have setcpu running for a couple weeks now with underclocking for screen off, battery under 50%, and battery under 30%. Have noticed a modest improvement, mostly while phone is asleep at night. Not really much difference with day use. I carry a spare battery and charge at every opportunity.
I'll be watching this thread to see how the new kernel works for you. Sounds like it can be installed over the stock 2.2, yes? Does it require a full wipe?

marcmarshall said:
I'll be watching this thread to see how the new kernel works for you. Sounds like it can be installed over the stock 2.2, yes? Does it require a full wipe?
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I just installed Virtuous Custom Kernel - Version 2 without any issues. All I did was wipe the dalvik cache. I'm still not a firm believer that wiping the battery stats does anything. Now to setup SetCPU... I will report back in a couple days.

I tried bump charging with wiping battery stats a couple days ago. Didn't see any difference.
I be watching for your post. I'm happy with my rooted stock. This phone has more tricks than a $2000 hooker. The battery life is the big problem for me.

In regards to wiping battery stats, here's what I do and what seems to work good for me.
This is best to do when you have times when you wont need your phone to much.
1. Full charge phone while phone is on
2. Leave USB/power cord plugged in and turn power on phone off
3. Wait for the LED to change from orange to green while phone is off, this means you have a full charge.
4. Power on phone to get to recovery
5. Go to advanced > clear battery stats
6. Reboot phone
7. Pull out charge cable once your phone fully boots
8. Fully kill phone battery without plugging it in to USB or power the phone until it dies completely
9. Turn phone back on with charge plugged in after battery fully dies and phone shuts itself off, charge till 100%
I also keep my screen brightness down really low, this seems to help maintain good battery life too.

Those are good detailed directions. I had been wondering about when to plug and unplug. I also never fully discharged the battery. Li bats don't have memory issues so why fully discharge? Is the claim that this effects or resets something in the OS? If so where does this info come from? I wonder if someone pulled it out of his butt and it has become doctrine. Did you really see a difference? Did you try something else like lower screen brightness or setcpu at the same time?

i've been running bfs #4 on stock rooted 2.2 for about a week now. loaded the kernel through clockwork. it's working good for the most part and i've been keeping it mostly at stock speeds. however, i have noticed an occasional lag here and there (that i didn't noticed with the stock kernel) but no reboots or lock ups. i'm going to disable setcpu to see if that has any impact.

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Those are good detailed directions. I had been wondering about when to plug and unplug. I also never fully discharged the battery. Li bats don't have memory issues so why fully discharge? Is the claim that this effects or resets something in the OS? If so where does this info come from? I wonder if someone pulled it out of his butt and it has become doctrine. Did you really see a difference? Did you try something else like lower screen brightness or setcpu at the same time?
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You pose a good question. I myself dont know the source of the battery stat information, and coming from apple products I've been conditioned to not asking questions, but I can claim from experience that wiping the battery stats help the OS more accurately report the battery percentage.
Since I recently reflashed a new rom and kernal, my discharge rates were rather wonky. The first 15% went pretty fast (as they usually do) since I didn't bump charge. Then it remained normal till 50% when it spiked till 20%, then remained normal till 15% where it took forever to diminish.
Wiping the battery stats will help this number be more consistent since (to me) it helps the OS learn about the battery in conjunction to the kernal being used. I'm assuming that this feature exists because we can swap batteries. Ever curious why apple locks their batteries in their devices? If I had to guess it would be to avoid this whole debacle. They only use one type of battery for each device and as such can report battery percentage more accurately. Plus its easier for them to design.
I've gotten sick of bump charging, so I reset my battery stats after charging to full and not bump charging. This should give me a more accurate drop in battery for the first 15%.
This is all information I've gathered through experience. I do not program these devices, so take it for what its worth. If any Li-ion engineers are around here, help!
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Just an update. I've been running Virtuous for a few days now. I thought I installed Custom Kernel v2 but the System Settings say v1. I'll have to look into that. Kinda odd.
Anyway, I also am using SetCPU, which I think is responsible for most of the savings I have received. I've got the default scaling set to Conservative. Additionally, I have a Screen Off profile of 245 max / 245 min in Powersave and a Battery < 10% profile of 806 max / 245 min in Conservative.
I'm still playing the kernel / SetCPU game for the optimum settings but I've bought another 1.5 to 2 hours of life without feeling any real performance woes. I'm hard on the phone and use it a lot. That's what we have them for, right?
I had issues with King's Kernel #4. My phone, at times, would get real sluggish without even using SetCPU. I may try some of his older kernels or his next kernel (when it's released) to see how it behaves.
Just wanted to touch base. Thanks for the previous input and guidance.

Thanks for the update! I think my greatest savings so far has been from a screen off profile at about 460 max. I also have a 50% and a 30% profile.

S7 Edge Battery Life after root is worse, due to Kernel / CPU usage?

So just before I continue this I want to say that I have Trickster installed and have done all the tips and fixes for root on the phone, and I notice that my battery drains pretty fast when in use.
I just was curious if it's cause of the Verizon version I'm on (before PE1) would anyone be able to tell me their battery life after root and give me any tips other than the ones already posted?
And please if you require more info on my battery stats, please ask, and I'll give you guys whatever you need.
Thanks in Advance.

Hate to bump.. but could use help... or advice... x.x

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Hate to bump.. but could use help... or advice... x.x
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I went back to stock after having almost all the possible modifications to enhance battery life on root. One small tip is that if you flashed the V15 fix zip, you didn't need to change governor settings manually. Even so, no matter what I did, I could only get to about 3 hours of SOT by the end of the day even without GPS use and all that before the battery is drained. After restoring stock, I'm seeing my usual 4-5 SOT of daily usage.
I'd rather wait to see if root is improved without the high CPU usage because of eng boot, from what I was told. Good luck.

I too have noticed decreased battery life though I can offer no suggestions to fix. I just downloaded a CPU control app to play around with. Right now I am able to get through the day so thats all that really matters, but its definitely decreased from before root.

Are reports of battery drain after rooting real??

My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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If you follow all the steps after rooting it's not bad. Sot is not as good but standby time is the same for me. I also have no lag.

mpetruzz said:
My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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Follow swicks lag thread. When I first got my s7, I couldn't go more than 7 hours without having to charge it. First day with the tweaks in his thread. I got this

Look into the U firmware. It removes the Verizon bloat, stable, and great battery life!

You can fix idle time on stock by downloading ez disabler (Samsung) from the market and getting a XML list of everything to disable.
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Yes

Maybe? - another issue?
mpetruzz said:
My s7 is arriving today and I was all set to root. But I keep reading posts about how the phone becomes super laggy with all types of battery drain.
I guess I'm trying to gauge if that's a real issue or people just overreacting.
If anyone can share their findings and thoughts I'd appreciate it.
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I rooted my SM-G930V, and I am experiencing some heat from the phone when it is sleeping- not so much when it is unlocked and operating.
As for battery drain- I have not noticed any major loss in battery usage.
There also seems to be a significant speed issue with speed- took around 5 seconds to open the settings app, But this can be fixed by
editing CPU governor from interactive to ondemand with Kernel Aduitor.
I am looking into this article to fix the heat issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...guide-to-fix-s7-lag-root-s7-variants-t3441715

Stang5litre rom and you wont regret it

You can do a lot with various Xposed modules and other root apps to mitigate the drain, but there is some drain nonetheless. SOT takes a bit of a hit. Standby time, it's negligible.

I recommened personally sticking to stock. I use to be rooted and between battery life and issues I went back to stock. This was before the roms came out. I have a new born and a family I can't play around with signal dropping, phone restarting, lagging and whatever else. I like stock with nougat beta. If the bootloader ever gets unlocked or something else that interests me to root maybe one day but not worth it for me right now.
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With Stang5litre's rom I've have zero problems.

There is no way with any rom or any app (unless it is magical and brand new) that you aren't having issues with this phone and root. I tried every app I could and 2 roms available here for it as well and it was still laggy with terrible battery life. I held on with this phone as long as I could hoping for a better root method but I couldn't wait any more. The performance after a few apps and kernel changes is still terrible compared to stock. The battery life after fixes and kernel changes is equally as terrible. I was getting around 1 hour and 10 mins of SOT before it was completely dead. I loved the phone and stock it had great performance and battery life, but that eng kernel for root just destroys it. I NEED root on my phone or I would have kept it stock. Word of advise, keep this phone stock or sell it and get something that can be rooted and actually stay usable.

JAYNO20 said:
There is no way with any rom or any app (unless it is magical and brand new) that you aren't having issues with this phone and root. I tried every app I could and 2 roms available here for it as well and it was still laggy with terrible battery life. I held on with this phone as long as I could hoping for a better root method but I couldn't wait any more. The performance after a few apps and kernel changes is still terrible compared to stock. The battery life after fixes and kernel changes is equally as terrible. I was getting around 1 hour and 10 mins of SOT before it was completely dead. I loved the phone and stock it had great performance and battery life, but that eng kernel for root just destroys it. I NEED root on my phone or I would have kept it stock. Word of advise, keep this phone stock or sell it and get something that can be rooted and actually stay usable.
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I get about 5-6 hours SOT and no performance issues. I occasionally overheat but that's it. Different people have different results, for whatever reason.

This is what happened when I replaced Nexus 5X battery with a new one

Tired of getting 2h30 SOT (plugging off power at 7 am and needing to plug on again at 2 pm) I decided to spend a few bucks on a new battery. I own a nexus 5x for 10 months, so I thought maybe battery has been underperforming.
I've ordered also the needed tools so I could do the job myself. Very easy by the way.
I was excited to see how the brand new battery would perform the next day. So I plugged off power at 7 am and 2 pm I needed to plug back on power (2h30 sot). YEAH, I HAD NO IMPROVE AT ALL with a new battery.
Maybe it's that I have too many apps (100 at about), but I'm not the one who lives with whatsapp only.
So in order to relieve the pain of not getting through out the day I've bought an S7 edge and now I can settle down so I know I will get past through the day. I dislike many things on S7, like the crap fingerprint sensor and the inconsistent physical home button, but I'll try to live with it. My next bet would be the Xperia XZ, so I'm still considering.
So it was an unburden, but I feel I can help someone out with this experience.

Have you tried a third rom or ex kernel?

im kinda in the same boat. just received my 2nd replacement battery today... gonna see how the battery compares tomorrow with stock unrooted. if no change i'll be trying purenexus + elementalx with Hawktail 1.2 profile.... such a struggle with this phone........

I don't know about you, but my typical work day I range from 6-7 hours with around 3.5 SoT average. That's pretty okay, given how low our batteries are for this phone. I use SimpleAOSP + Franco kernel.
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I deal with it by having a 10000 mAh battery bank handy in my work bag or car.
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I know.
Since I have updated to Nougat, I have only 2 to 3 SOT. Also with franco kernel or elemtalx no improvement, no matter which profile.
Marchmallow was better with the battery performance.
I will try pure nexus with custom kernel (franco or elementalx).
I'm also wondering why the Android operating system has such a big battery consumption according to "betterbatterystats".
Otherwise always it was the google services.

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Have you tried a third rom or ex kernel?
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I've tried ElementalX Kernel and ex kernel also. I've not noticed any improvement.
seromba said:
im kinda in the same boat. just received my 2nd replacement battery today... gonna see how the battery compares tomorrow with stock unrooted. if no change i'll be trying purenexus + elementalx with Hawktail 1.2 profile.... such a struggle with this phone........
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Did your 2nd battery replacement make any progress?
soap94 said:
I know.
Since I have updated to Nougat, I have only 2 to 3 SOT. Also with franco kernel or elemtalx no improvement, no matter which profile.
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Exactly what happened to me. No matter which profile I had a sensation that they were all the same in terms of performance and battery life.

My battery life is pretty good. I get about 5 hrs SOT a day. Device is 9 months old.

icrunchbanger said:
My battery life is pretty good. I get about 5 hrs SOT a day. Device is 9 months old.
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A few questions
Which time do you plug off and on to power again? I mean, how many hours do you stay off the wall outlet?
How many apps do you have installed?
Do you use antes app/kernel for the purpose off extending battery life?
Thanks!

quera said:
A few questions
Which time do you plug off and on to power again? I mean, how many hours do you stay off the wall outlet?
How many apps do you have installed?
Do you use antes app/kernel for the purpose off extending battery life?
Thanks!
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Mostly every night. Sometimes it gets me to 2 days of battery life. Im pretty heavy user
I have about 50 apps but i am very careful about apps i install and use. When i am at home on wifi all day it gets me 6-7 hrs SOT. I used most of the kernels i found on the XDA but now i am settled with minimalistic ABC rom with implemented DU kernel.

quera said:
I've tried ElementalX Kernel and ex kernel also. I've not noticed any improvement.
Did your 2nd battery replacement make any progress?
Exactly what happened to me. No matter which profile I had a sensation that they were all the same in terms of performance and battery life.
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at first i was getting the same results but i've made some major improvements by using airplane mode when at work with wifi, greenifying almost all of my apps, removing Fitbit sync/notifications, and using the greenify manual hiberate now widget. getting over 2hrs of SoT now but it's still nowhere near the results I've seen from others using PureNexus Rom + ElementalX kernel (Hawktail 1.2 profile)

The battery of my Nexus 5x (not rooted) seemed to be nearly dead. Smartphone shut down at 50%, and sometimes the battery went down from 80% to 30% within a minute. Then suddenly the mainboard of my Nexus died. The mainboard was replaced and Android was resetted. After this the battery works as if it's a new battery.

quera said:
Tired of getting 2h30 SOT (plugging off power at 7 am and needing to plug on again at 2 pm) I decided to spend a few bucks on a new battery. I own a nexus 5x for 10 months, so I thought maybe battery has been underperforming.
I've ordered also the needed tools so I could do the job myself. Very easy by the way.
I was excited to see how the brand new battery would perform the next day. So I plugged off power at 7 am and 2 pm I needed to plug back on power (2h30 sot). YEAH, I HAD NO IMPROVE AT ALL with a new battery.
Maybe it's that I have too many apps (100 at about), but I'm not the one who lives with whatsapp only.
So in order to relieve the pain of not getting through out the day I've bought an S7 edge and now I can settle down so I know I will get past through the day. I dislike many things on S7, like the crap fingerprint sensor and the inconsistent physical home button, but I'll try to live with it. My next bet would be the Xperia XZ, so I'm still considering.
So it was an unburden, but I feel I can help someone out with this experience.
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I dont really know what you do in order to get less than 3h SOT, or what brightness you run your device on, or what apps you have installed, or if you have NFC, location, Bluetooth or LTE turned on all the time, but on this phone it is the usage that determines battery life. I got a new Nexus 5x with an old battery and had the same results. Ordered a new battery for about 10$ and got arround 5-5:30 h of SOT with the same usage over arround 43 h of stand by withouth charging in between on full stock. You might want to check whata draining your battery or maybe you are a multitasker that streams music, types on FB, browses instagram all at the same time while the screen is on 40% brightness.

For me 5x battery sucks, i want to get 6p soon, but price is a little bit too high now so i must wait some time to buy.
Im using Jolla kernel now, with small cluster -> 3cores, 1,2GHZ and big cluster -> 2 core 768MHz max.All on zzmove. Battery is now improved, some times big cluster shuts off sometimes it's working, but performance is good for dialy use. Multitasking is fine, chrome web browsing also. ~ 4h 20mins of SOT, previously ~ 3h.
So i think NOW battery is really good for my 1yr old phone.

ROM and kernel are inconsequential to battery life in comparison to normal factors such as usage, settings and signal. Without reducing performance or functionality (GAPs) the most you could hope for is +10-20%, if even that.
Low screen time doesn't mean your battery life is bad as that's just one form of measuring battery life. If you do a lot of messaging and phone calls for instance you will never have long screen time as you need to actively be using the screen in order to increase SoT. If SoT is your only measure of battery life then you don't understand how it works.
I regularly see 5-6 hours SoT over 24+ hours without root or disabling much, as I use my phone for mostly browsing and streaming.
Post some screenshots in our Battery Thread and I will take a look. Replacing hardware should be the last option for improving battery life.

I think it's not about the battery, rom, kernel, settings, installed apps....
I think......it's only about the device
I tried EVERYTHING. changed battery, all android versions, tried without google account, kernels, profiles, custom roms, interactive settings, I don't even use many apps
my device has abnormal consumption. period.
I have 3 friends with n5x that do more than 4 hrs of screen on
mine does 2. and I can do nothing. it's just this
I don't know if warranty could cover such thing, it would be hard to detect on RMA since is very user related

throcker said:
I think it's not about the battery, rom, kernel, settings, installed apps....
I think......it's only about the device
I tried EVERYTHING. changed battery, all android versions, tried without google account, kernels, profiles, custom roms, interactive settings, I don't even use many apps
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You make me feel relieved. It must be the device. I've spent many bucks on S7 edge but I still prefer 5X ...

quera said:
You make me feel relieved. It must be the device. I've spent many bucks on S7 edge but I still prefer 5X ...
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Use Greenify to kill some apps that work in background. If you are Facebook /Messenger user, to maximise the battery life uninstall them and use alternative one like the lite version of these. "Naptime" for aggressive doze. Greenify and Naptime gave to my phone nice battery life.... From 100% - 2% I have 4:15 - 4:30 SOT . All stock 7.1.2

AFK269 said:
Use Greenify to kill some apps that work in background. If you are Facebook /Messenger user, to maximise the battery life uninstall them and use alternative one like the lite version of these. "Naptime" for aggressive doze. Greenify and Naptime gave to my phone nice battery life.... From 100% - 2% I have 4:15 - 4:30 SOT . All stock 7.1.2
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dude....there's no hope for us....it's just like that....no app help....
it drains by itself
we can just try to see if is related to the production date....download "lg phone from", free on play store
mine was manufactured in 07/06/2016

throcker said:
dude....there's no hope for us....it's just like that....no app help....
it drains by itself
we can just try to see if is related to the production date....download "lg phone from", free on play store
mine was manufactured in 07/06/2016
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Mine is 27/10/2015

Anyone uses "L Speed" or LKT or NFS-Injector or anything for better battery life?

Anyone uses "L Speed" or LKT or NFS-Injector or anything for better battery life?
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!

From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.

C D said:
From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.
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Thank you.

Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.

baldybill said:
Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.
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That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.

C D said:
That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.
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Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?

baldybill said:
Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?
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That's where longer testing periods would be more helpful to cover any differences/inconsistencies. Ideally, you'd want to give it at least a week to get a good sense of any battery life benefits/drawbacks vs. no tweak installed.

baldybill said:
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!
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You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ

teji007 said:
You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ
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That's not a bad idea. For now, though, I'll hold off on adding the bulk to the phone and keep tweaking. But it's something to keep in mind. Thanks!

In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.

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In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.
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My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!

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My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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I use AKT on oreo without any issues
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baldybill said:
My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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No, I can't Stock Oreo. Can't root past ZV7. I have a Ls997 (Sprint).
Well If you still want full root ability, then possibly LKT, maybe injector. Lspeed I have no issue with either. Lspeed can be used with AKT, LKT, FDE, Injector, but don't set same settings as others apply or it CAN have bad results. With Lspeed it seems a lil more aggressive as to acting and you can feel a difference with lag/performance/see battery changes with Accu pretty quickly after restarting with after changes.
As for out-dated, AKT may be old, but it sufficiently works. The app is best. Kinda like our phones, maybe kinda out date, but blows most of/if not - any other away with it's abilities. To be honest, most kernel mods might be based if of AKT imo. There is a way to edit post appied AKT profiles for further customised settings that will stick as AKT fully boots after restarting that I found also.
You can edit the post applied AKT selected profile that you want to always work automatically after AKT fully boots (Superuser boot) by going to... Root/storage/0 (or local, whatever your internal storage is)/AKT/AKT. Edit the AKT file in the AKT folder with text editor, save, delete backup file, reboot. Copy and paste a backup somewhere else to use as needed in future. Found this ability after many, countless wonders if able. Yes, yes it is .