Root or extended battery? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

Hello, fellow LG V20 users...I come baring questions.
I've recently updated my phone from v10 to v20...I liked the v10, but due to being an AT&T variant, I found my options limited, due to no root access.
So far, I'm enjoying the v20 (better sound, pictures and video) but this battery is just not where it should be as far as life goes. I've done all of the usual power save bells and whistles, but no real change in drain.
I had bought an extended battery for the v10 - which allowed my phone to stay charged for 3 days; but after an update, it drained just as fast as if it were a stock battery. So I'm trying to figure out if I should just root my v20 (and if so, which method and ROM would you recommend) or get an extended battery (also seeking recommendations).
Thanks in advance!

Stock battery is really nice. If you are a heavy user try the Mugen battery with case.
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To really get the most out of this phone I suggest a spare battery with the cradle.

+1 the stock battery for sure. But do your homework first, don't make your purchase by a couple of views here.

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Help! Bad battery life from day one. Possible causes? Faulty hardware?

Why my G2 has such poor battery life?
A year ago, I bought G2 F320 from China. It was supposed to be brand new retail box set, but it arrived with fake back cover, some tiny scuffs at the edges, and of course knock-off accessories.
Also, the screen had three whiter spots which were only visibly on black backgrounds. They are permanent and look like pressure marks.
Anyway, that all was not a big deal. The big deal was that from day one I had terrible battery life. The only things I used phone for was light web browsing, notes, occasional photo. I never had any games or benchmark stuff on it.
No matter what ROM I tried (all Cloudy variants, KK, Lollipop) I got max 20-24h battery life with 1h30o Screen On Time. If the SoT was less than 1h, I would occasionally get 48h or battery life. I recently tried BlissPop and Resurrection Remix with CM13 (Marshmallow) and although it worked gloriously well, the battery life went down by half: 10-24h, depending on SoT.
From day one I set up some extreme battery saving tricks, blocking wakelocks, disabling services, minimal brightness, the phone went into airplane mode every night for 6 hours. And the above is max I got.
And at the same time I read that G2 has such phenomenal battery life, with some reaching SoT of 6+ hours, while most getting 4-5+ hours. And that was WITHOUT all the powersaving stuff I did!
Sure, f320 has a 350mhA of a battery, but that in no way should account for such results. In fact, all reports from f320 owners I found said battery life was not much different form the d802 etc.
I even tried running it without an SD card, but there was no discernible difference.
So, the obvious conclusion was: bad battery. Right? After all, if the seller replaced the original back cover with a fake, why wouldn’t he do it with original battery. So I recently got an original LG replacement battery at a local GSM shop. It was sealed, had QRcode on it and was supposed to be original. Seller advertised it can be verified at any LG service center, though I never did.
Anyway, after using this new battery for a more than week, doing all the “calibration” tricks, and letting the phone get used to it, I can tell absolutely no difference in battery life.
So, assuming the battery is good, what are the other options? Could it be that there is something wrong with some internal component? I was thinking that since the excessive drain seems to me connected to SoT, perhaps it’s the screens fault? Perhaps apart from having pressure marks, it has a flaw which causes it to drain more power than it should?
If that is likely, then I would be willing to replace it. But if this is a shot in the dark, then there is not much sense in shelving out 50% of how much the phone is worth for just to replace the screen and get not difference.
What do you think?
Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps
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lynxrz said:
Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps
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nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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Yeah, thanks, but I have done all those things when I first got the phone and then did them many, many more times over the last year. So did I with the new battery.
bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks
bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..
albsat said:
Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks
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here in my country a few shops they have some stock staff from old phones like g2 so i buy it.
raptorddd said:
i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..
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and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?
bromoxitos said:
and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?
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dorimanx kernel app. it has battery calibration schedule for friday or saturday one a week..

LG Spirit H440AR's short lasting battery

Hey everybody.
I got this phone from my father who got himself a Samsung J1 Ace from my mother, and I must say it's really good, fast and reliable. However, I am noticing a very bad battery life on it that I'm not sure may be of normal reasons, (Wi-Fi and having apps open almost all the time, though I close all non-active) was not fully charged when the battery was new, (I asked my father about it, he said he did to 100% but then the other day he said my mother pulled the plug) or the battery is screwed up.
My normal battery life duration at 100% in the Battery panel says about +5 hours of battery life. This opens me a question, because I had a LG Optimus L2 with a 1540 mAh battery and this phone is a 2100 mAh one, and the LG Optimus lasted me about a day non-stop.
There was also one time where the battery was about of 88% and it said 12+ hours, but then it went back to say +5 when I was charging it.
Should I get a new battery? Is this normal at all? My routines are: YouTube videos, Wi-Fi, Battery Saver (built-in, not those shabby apps) and brightness to 0%.
After a year of use, mine last for about a full day (Much less nowadays with PokemonGO T.T )
If it has LP (as you are from Argentina) you could do a Factory Reset, root it (Kingroot) and install Greenify. If you fell safe enough you can upgrade it to MM [but there is no root for MM], there are many tutorials here on how to do it, that could improve your battery life in case that the problem isn't the battery itself.
Getting a fairly good quality battery in Argentina, from my experience, it's quite difficult so I would stick to the original one.
Thanks for your answer . Have you been able to update this phone to Marshmallow without rooting methods? If so, how? I check every day in the LG Updating Center but I never catch the update.
Hoozang said:
Thanks for your answer . Have you been able to update this phone to Marshmallow without rooting methods? If so, how? I check every day in the LG Updating Center but I never catch the update.
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Cause MM fota update isn't available for all regions. i. e. I'm from Argentina and the last update for me is LL v10d. So, to get MM I had to do it via LGUP
In this forum there is a complete guide about how to do it.

Why LG G4 Batterys Su*ks

Hey all. It is my 2nd G4 device and 6 months old (first one died). Recently i realized that battery drains a lot on normal usage. I also disabled useless functions to avoid battery draining. But nothing helped. So, i decided to download an app called AccuBattery from play store. I've used this app for 3 days in order to be sure of the result. Here it is. Estimated battery capacity is 2500mAh. 500 mAh drop for just 6 months.
This is very unlikely. I have it for about 6 months now and I noticed that battery life is fluctuating. What you are getting is an estimation based on whatever Android is supplying. I've had 2 days between 2 charges for a few times when Android or any of the Google Apps did not go wild on it. I have a second battery (the one that comes with official LG battery kit) and I did not have significant lower battery time with this one (it has 2900 mAh). If your G4 is international and you are not afraid of the bootloop, then unlock the bootloader, install Imperium (or Genisys) and enjoy far better and constant battery life. I've had enough Android devices to not blame the hardware (even a Nexus). I have always had significant battery life with a well made custom Rom than with the official one.
tmihai20 said:
This is very unlikely. I have it for about 6 months now and I noticed that battery life is fluctuating. What you are getting is an estimation based on whatever Android is supplying. I've had 2 days between 2 charges for a few times when Android or any of the Google Apps did not go wild on it. I have a second battery (the one that comes with official LG battery kit) and I did not have significant lower battery time with this one (it has 2900 mAh). If your G4 is international and you are not afraid of the bootloop, then unlock the bootloader, install Imperium (or Genisys) and enjoy far better and constant battery life. I've had enough Android devices to not blame the hardware (even a Nexus). I have always had significant battery life with a well made custom Rom than with the official one.
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I have installed SimpleGX kernel that based on battery and overall speed improvements which is awesome. Also did not see any terrible kind of lag or freeze on this kernel compare to the stock one. Anyways
You can always get better results with a custom kernel. I think only the S6 is a little better at managing apps, but my work S6 does only have work email and Ingress running at all times.
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1 years old battery
I'll modify if something changes
Do not take these as granted. As I said , that app cannot know exactly how many mAh the battery has. It estimates this based on information found in the system.
tmihai20 said:
Do not take these as granted. As I said , that app cannot know exactly how many mAh the battery has. It estimates this based on information found in the system.
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Yeah it estimates. But the fact is that we can not say it estimates wrongly. It gives approximate results

Anyone switched directly from the G3 to the V20?

I have the G3 and the battery life is not bad. I'm debating between the pixel and the V20. I'm curious how the G3 battery life compares directly with the V20. I know everyone is interested in sharing their battery story and if you have another phone you want to talk about I'll be happy to start another thread. It doesn't help cover my question if people are switching from the G4 or G5 or note or a vibrator or an iPhone... I have a G3 so that is the only frame of reference that will mean anything to me.
It's about the same. Traded in my G3 for the v20 and so far the only thing that's great is the audio on my headphones. Dropped calls and bad LTE connections along with some lag have made me consider taking it back.
OMG get the v20! Switched from the G3 and guessing double the battery life after a week of use. Much better LTE signal strength with fewer dead spots. Killer audio, camera, and love the always on screen.
Looked at a pixel but for the extra cost of about $250 on VZ plus getting the removable battery and SD card I was down for the v20.
This phone is killing the G3. Battery life is waaay better. And I had Greenify and Amplify on my G3. It was rooted and booted but this V20 is 2 steps up without root. Probably get a day and a half once root comes out. Jk. Lol.
THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
boe said:
THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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Basically my phone on standby I have black and white on cause I used it last night and its better on the eyes I just haven't turned it off lol
I too switched from my very loyal/dependable G3 to the V20. I've had the V20 since Oct 29th and I can say without reservation that it blows my old G3 away. I was running Resurrection Remix ROM on my G3, and the V20 still smokes it....regardless of no root/locked bootloader. The only thing I miss is the CM13 theme engine/Layers...but I still think the V20's responsiveness and features make up for it.
I am on Verizon and I've noticed that the signal strength is much better on the V20 compared to what I had on the G3. So far, I am confident that I made the right choice. Also for me, battery life is much better on the V20 and that is with its little 2nd screen on the entire time.... I average a day and half to 2 with moderate to heavy usage. My old G3 would only last about a day.
I did seriously contemplate the Pixel XL, but when I finally had one in hand and compared it to the V20, it was a no brainer for me.....removable battery and expendable local storage sealed the deal.
Good luck with your decision(s)....
I only just changed to the V20 yesterday, so far so good. I will still keep my G3 , it still holds its weight when comparing to other handsets on the market. Though the 2Gb ram was starting to show it's not good enough anymore with android 6.
I just got my V20 today and i have to so far I am loving it over my G3, idk about battery life yet as I killed the battery during setup and restoring my apps.
Thanks for your replies. I look forward to your opinions on the battery.
Well I still have 2X LG G3 and 1X Samsung galaxy s4 . But because my LG V20 came defective from factory i had to return it, but for the short period i used it, i can say it is way better than the LG G3 on Every aspect without exception! (im still waiting for my new LG V20 to come (STUPID BACKORDERS!)) The LG G3 >rooted with AICP or Resurrection Remix would last about 18 hours with screen off, and 3-4:50 hours with screen on device in normal usage, not heavy such as Youtube video on 1440p. Yet with the LG V20 with screen off, i lost about 1 percent every 4 hours with screen off . and screen on i got 6+ hours of normal usage. (i have 35 user apps installed on my LG G3 and also had them on my LG V20, many of them were constantly synchronizing such as package tracker pro, zooper widget pro, among others)
My V20's battery life is just about exactly what I was getting with the G4 and the G3.
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
boe said:
Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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If battery life is king, then the Moto Z Play is the phone you want.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
boe said:
Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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I don't know if the P2 when released will have a Verizon option so I'm still hoping to find something with good battery life worth upgrading to without wasting an upgrade. I'd also love the ZenFone 3 Max which only has a 4100mah battery.

About battery SM-N910U

Hi, i have SM-N910U device and the original new battery. But, why my battery draining so fast? Currently i using MM 6.0.1 official. Not rooted device. I’ve done lot of things to keep battery stable. But it seems not working. The battery drained so fast. This is malfunctioned of seri U or what? Thanks for the answer
What do you mean by "original new battery"? Do you mean the original battery that came with the phone? Or you have recently purchased an "original new battery"?
If you have recently purchased a battery it is almost guaranteed not to be an original Samsung battery as they do not make them any more - it is probably fake. Buy a RavPower battery and see how it goes. Same if you're still using the battery that originally came with the phone - get a RavPower. You might also want to try a factory reset and set your phone up clean again - this made a big difference to mine about a year ago when my battery was draining fast.
vudith said:
Hi, i have SM-N910U device and the original new battery. But, why my battery draining so fast? Currently i using MM 6.0.1 official. Not rooted device. I’ve done lot of things to keep battery stable. But it seems not working. The battery drained so fast. This is malfunctioned of seri U or what? Thanks for the answer
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Three possible curlpits: Your apps, the battery, or the firmware
Battery—fake battery will die fast, according to what others say
Apps—some apps are battery hungry, so find a way to hibernate those with Greenify or Hibernation Manager
Software—Android 6 is the last and worst update for performance and battery life. While it's on KitKat (4.4), its battery life was awesome; fast forward to Lollipop (5.0.1–5.1.1), from 12 hours of Screen On Time (SOT), it got decreased to 8 hours; and fast forward again to Marshmallow (6.0.1), it became from 8 hours to 3 hours. No matter what kernel or battery-saving methods you use, it's futile for a firmware that rots a powerful phone. The only way to fix this is by either using a custom ROM (Refined Nougat, Note 5/7 ported ROMs, etc.), or downgrading your firmware. (Installing KitKat with the latest bootloader prevents you from downgrading).
With a new battery on MM stock and unrooted I was getting 6 hours SOT (Exynos). Dropped off now after using the battery for 18 months, but soon upgrading to Note 9 or 10 anyway.

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