LG Spirit H440AR's short lasting battery - LG Spirit Questions & Answers

Hey everybody.
I got this phone from my father who got himself a Samsung J1 Ace from my mother, and I must say it's really good, fast and reliable. However, I am noticing a very bad battery life on it that I'm not sure may be of normal reasons, (Wi-Fi and having apps open almost all the time, though I close all non-active) was not fully charged when the battery was new, (I asked my father about it, he said he did to 100% but then the other day he said my mother pulled the plug) or the battery is screwed up.
My normal battery life duration at 100% in the Battery panel says about +5 hours of battery life. This opens me a question, because I had a LG Optimus L2 with a 1540 mAh battery and this phone is a 2100 mAh one, and the LG Optimus lasted me about a day non-stop.
There was also one time where the battery was about of 88% and it said 12+ hours, but then it went back to say +5 when I was charging it.
Should I get a new battery? Is this normal at all? My routines are: YouTube videos, Wi-Fi, Battery Saver (built-in, not those shabby apps) and brightness to 0%.

After a year of use, mine last for about a full day (Much less nowadays with PokemonGO T.T )
If it has LP (as you are from Argentina) you could do a Factory Reset, root it (Kingroot) and install Greenify. If you fell safe enough you can upgrade it to MM [but there is no root for MM], there are many tutorials here on how to do it, that could improve your battery life in case that the problem isn't the battery itself.
Getting a fairly good quality battery in Argentina, from my experience, it's quite difficult so I would stick to the original one.

Thanks for your answer . Have you been able to update this phone to Marshmallow without rooting methods? If so, how? I check every day in the LG Updating Center but I never catch the update.

Hoozang said:
Thanks for your answer . Have you been able to update this phone to Marshmallow without rooting methods? If so, how? I check every day in the LG Updating Center but I never catch the update.
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Cause MM fota update isn't available for all regions. i. e. I'm from Argentina and the last update for me is LL v10d. So, to get MM I had to do it via LGUP
In this forum there is a complete guide about how to do it.

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[Q] Terrible Battery in Germany

Hello all. This is my first actual help post cause I now have a problem, but I have been lurking for a while.
Anyway, I have a rooted S5 from verizon that had awesome battery life compared to my old nexus - I could hit 2 days with one charge. Anyway, I am now living in Germany, will be here for the next year, and I can get maybe half a day before I hit 30%. It feels like I am back with the nexus, I have to plan my charging around what I will be doing.
My carrier here is Lebara. Under the battery stats Android system and Androud OS dominate usage. I had that under control in the States with some TB tweaking, but it is back with a vengance. I haven't updated the OS and am not planning to until L comes out and is compatible with root.
I am never far from an outlet, but I don't want to return to my old habits of always plugging in.
I just had a thought - is it possible that the different electricity standards here nuked my battery? If this is the case, should I worry about my tablet too?
I am also starting to notice a lot more lag and even freezing from normal usage.
S5 frezzing and low batery life.
same here . in the states running stock os flashed to PP

[Q] Stock VS980 Battey Drain

Hello,
My father has a stock unrooted Verizon LG G2, and is telling me his battery life isn't good he has had for just over a year. When he got his G2 is was running android 4.2.2. and now is running the latest Verizon software. I used to have a G2 but don't have it anymore because i upgraded to the G3 . anyways i looked under battery settings and nothing seems to be hogging the battery! his GPS was off all day, also he turns Wifi off when is is not using it. He had a total time off the charger of 13 hours and just over a hour of screen on time his battery was on 7% when i looked at it, and today we were out snowmobiling all day so he was not sitting in a dead zone all day.
is there any kind of bugs in the latest Verizon Version software that can cause this. If there is that would be great to try. if not i may send him to a Verizon Store, and or try to do a factory reset.
Install wakelock detector or betterbattery stats and watch wakelocks...disable or remove apps that couse wakelocks
masteril said:
Install wakelock detector or betterbattery stats and watch wakelocks...disable or remove apps that couse wakelocks
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Well we just bit the bullet and did a factory reset. before i did that i charged the battery to full then went on YouTube and found a timer counting down video and let it run for about 2 hours then did some math and figured the battery would have lasted for 7 hours at the rate it was going, so i figured the battery wasn't damaged in any way, then he told me this morning that when he was sleeping his phone only lost 4% of battery so it was software causing it! But for future reference i will try using what your suggested!
When it comes to my phone i am a Flashaholic LoL So im used really never have battery drain issues due to software
i was going to send him to Verizon, but i don't know what they would have done lol i see it this way Verizon may have done a factory reset like me, or try to tell him his phone was damaged, and he need a replacement. in other words suck more money from him! i had a G2 in the past and ripped it apart to replace the screen. so if it was the battery that would have been easy for me to replace
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[Q] S4 Value Edition battery life

Recently bought this S4,model I9515,brand new and sim free.When I first turned it on it was on 4.4.2 official kitkat which is also the latest.I’ve rooted it and deleted a lot of samsung crap.Been using it for a few days now,and I noticed that the battery is draining to fast.I attached some pictures so that anybody can tell me if this battery life is ok and Im just being wrong or not.
running up to fast or ?
well with 4 h in screen this seems pretty normal. i get a maximum of 3...
so since i updated my galaxy to to polnish version of 5.0.1 i feel like something is drinking up my battery, i dont have an enormous amount of applications. to describe how tragic is the situation is like if i touch it for some minutes writing some text in facebook mesenger i get a loss of 10% in 20 minutes, even if i dont touch at all my device after 8 hours for example it comes with a loss of 25% in battery. could it be a problem that i charge the phone with an 1000mah charger the problem (i dont have the original cable and charger)? i have already tried to reflash the rom with cleaning everything. i will try to post some real data screenshots from the battery app next days here...
spidr said:
well with 4 h in screen this seems pretty normal. i get a maximum of 3...
so since i updated my galaxy to to polnish version of 5.0.1 i feel like something is drinking up my battery, i dont have an enormous amount of applications. to describe how tragic is the situation is like if i touch it for some minutes writing some text in facebook mesenger i get a loss of 10% in 20 minutes, even if i dont touch at all my device after 8 hours for example it comes with a loss of 25% in battery. could it be a problem that i charge the phone with an 1000mah charger the problem (i dont have the original cable and charger)? i have already tried to reflash the rom with cleaning everything. i will try to post some real data screenshots from the battery app next days here...
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Try to stop everything that is using excenge, like account e-mail from microsoft
hope it can help
ok this was a correct guess, i guess i will turn off my microsoft email account and see how its going. thanx in advance
Hello .. after i instal an official lollipop using odin i notice that my battery mah drop from oroginal 2600mah to 2100mah i using many programs like aida64 and battery monitor widget and every program told me my battery is only 2100mah and i think the mah is reading from android kernel , i downgrade the phone back to kitkat 4.4.2 and the battery mah reading was correct and back again to 2600 so i think it was a mistake during the install of lollipop so i download the newer firmware available -I9515XXU1BOE3- and upgrade my firmware again but the problem come back again with wrong battery reading only 2100mah, i try to wipe the battery state and make calibration but nothing solved i downgrade the phone and upgrade it again and the problem appear every time ... could any one please help me how to solve this problem ... thanks in advance
i dont have an enormous amount of applications.
hunter777 said:
Hello .. after i instal an official lollipop using odin i notice that my battery mah drop from oroginal 2600mah to 2100mah i using many programs like aida64 and battery monitor widget and every program told me my battery is only 2100mah and i think the mah is reading from android kernel , i downgrade the phone back to kitkat 4.4.2 and the battery mah reading was correct and back again to 2600 so i think it was a mistake during the install of lollipop so i download the newer firmware available -I9515XXU1BOE3- and upgrade my firmware again but the problem come back again with wrong battery reading only 2100mah, i try to wipe the battery state and make calibration but nothing solved i downgrade the phone and upgrade it again and the problem appear every time ... could any one please help me how to solve this problem ... thanks in advance
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Just don't care about how many mah the apps will tell you, the battery is charging anyway. I have a 3100 battery and battery monitor widget tell me 2100, but the phone stays longer than the 2600 battery, so I think that the battery is charging copletelly not only 2100 as the app tells me. Anyway you can change it in the setting of the widget if you want to.
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after doing a clean install of the original lollipop rom i m getting back a lot of power. almost 5h on screen usage. Though i almost installed nothing on the handy and i disabled the most of the preinstalled applications. I m really discouraged about this, as it means that the problem is the android system itself... when i compare it with my company handy (iphone 5c) with the same applications and usage its like the half standby and 5c is far away from a up todate iphone ...
I hope we will get 5.1 as in a comparison on my nexus 7 from 5.0.1 to 5.1 it was like the double standby in hours.
I am having a problem battery
My brother, my s4, the battery is discharging very fast ,screen time is 3h , tell me a rom, the battery runs out slowly
can be any existing rom the world just want the battery to last
example
>reduce processor speed
>reduce screen quality
I use cyanogemod 13, with little battery life

Help! Bad battery life from day one. Possible causes? Faulty hardware?

Why my G2 has such poor battery life?
A year ago, I bought G2 F320 from China. It was supposed to be brand new retail box set, but it arrived with fake back cover, some tiny scuffs at the edges, and of course knock-off accessories.
Also, the screen had three whiter spots which were only visibly on black backgrounds. They are permanent and look like pressure marks.
Anyway, that all was not a big deal. The big deal was that from day one I had terrible battery life. The only things I used phone for was light web browsing, notes, occasional photo. I never had any games or benchmark stuff on it.
No matter what ROM I tried (all Cloudy variants, KK, Lollipop) I got max 20-24h battery life with 1h30o Screen On Time. If the SoT was less than 1h, I would occasionally get 48h or battery life. I recently tried BlissPop and Resurrection Remix with CM13 (Marshmallow) and although it worked gloriously well, the battery life went down by half: 10-24h, depending on SoT.
From day one I set up some extreme battery saving tricks, blocking wakelocks, disabling services, minimal brightness, the phone went into airplane mode every night for 6 hours. And the above is max I got.
And at the same time I read that G2 has such phenomenal battery life, with some reaching SoT of 6+ hours, while most getting 4-5+ hours. And that was WITHOUT all the powersaving stuff I did!
Sure, f320 has a 350mhA of a battery, but that in no way should account for such results. In fact, all reports from f320 owners I found said battery life was not much different form the d802 etc.
I even tried running it without an SD card, but there was no discernible difference.
So, the obvious conclusion was: bad battery. Right? After all, if the seller replaced the original back cover with a fake, why wouldn’t he do it with original battery. So I recently got an original LG replacement battery at a local GSM shop. It was sealed, had QRcode on it and was supposed to be original. Seller advertised it can be verified at any LG service center, though I never did.
Anyway, after using this new battery for a more than week, doing all the “calibration” tricks, and letting the phone get used to it, I can tell absolutely no difference in battery life.
So, assuming the battery is good, what are the other options? Could it be that there is something wrong with some internal component? I was thinking that since the excessive drain seems to me connected to SoT, perhaps it’s the screens fault? Perhaps apart from having pressure marks, it has a flaw which causes it to drain more power than it should?
If that is likely, then I would be willing to replace it. But if this is a shot in the dark, then there is not much sense in shelving out 50% of how much the phone is worth for just to replace the screen and get not difference.
What do you think?
Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps
GOOD INFO
lynxrz said:
Try to full charge then plug off the charger then calibrate (battery level will be drop suddenly)
Charge again until %100 then calibrate again then charge again...
Do it 3-4 times until FULLY charged and making calibration won't cause drop of battery level, you're done.
Make this process ONCE and that make battery some kind of overcharge so use your own risk!
Then charge normally use of 2-3 charge cycle shows correct battery level and that makes a little battery time.
(Fully usage of my phone 5 hours and that trick makes 5:30 hours with d802)
Install wakelock detector (maybe you've done this) or install xposed framework with Amplify, both detects wakelocks (Amplify can block wakelocks, alarms and services)
Try to romtoolbox lite to stop recievers from AUTOSTART MANAGER. Especially google play services consumes a lot of battery (~%30). Block if not using or recieve notifications from "that" app.
Deleting own apps of LG helps too (if you're using stock)
Hope it helps
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nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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Yeah, thanks, but I have done all those things when I first got the phone and then did them many, many more times over the last year. So did I with the new battery.
bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks
bromoxitos said:
nice infos this sir, i buy a old g2 d802 few days ago i change the battery with one new lg original but the OST is about 3,5hours
so what is the best calibration app? with root or not? i have buy a calibration app with root permissions you say to do with this one?
LG G2 D802//ICEXROM STOCK(DORIMAX KERNEL) I FLASH IT 10 HOURS AGO
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i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..
albsat said:
Sorry to ask. Can you tell me where did you get the original battery? Thanks
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here in my country a few shops they have some stock staff from old phones like g2 so i buy it.
raptorddd said:
i got same SOT on icerom final... bur on google ediiton i could get over 6 hours..
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and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?
bromoxitos said:
and what about battery calibration??? what app you use?
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dorimanx kernel app. it has battery calibration schedule for friday or saturday one a week..

Is this battery consumption normal?

Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol
My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone
Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).
Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle
I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...
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Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
paco_ramirez said:
Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
paco_ramirez said:
Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks
Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help

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