So I just updated to the latest xt1644 Nougat JP25.93.14-4 and am having an issue installing TWRP and getting it to stick. I installed it and even did a backup, but once I boot to System and then back to bootloader, and finally to recovery, it goes back to stock recovery. Also I am unsure of how to root this device now with Nougat. I've seen on a few sites differing methods. One site had a download for what they called a root package and it was a SuperSU 2.76 version. Another site said to use Phh SU and just install TWRP and then flash Phh. I don't want to mess anything up, can someone point me in the right direction since it seems everything in this forum is for a device other than the XT1644. Lastly, is it possible to revert back to Marshmellow using fastboot, or is that now not possible? I have unlocked my bootloader, obviously. Thanks.
After flashing TWRP you have to manually boot to TWRP without booting to system first. For rooting you have to flash ElementalX or Vegito Kernel and then flash SuperSU v2.79 SR3 or Magisk v12
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tywinlannister7 said:
After flashing TWRP you have to manually boot to TWRP without booting to system first. For rooting you have to flash ElementalX or Vegito Kernel and then flash SuperSU v2.79 SR3 or Magisk v12
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I did manually boot it. I went back to bootloader, then choose recovery again and it goes back to TWRP. After I boot to system is when the issue occurs. If I go back to bootloader after booting to system, that is when I have the problem. Once I try to go into recovery again it goes to stack recovery. I am trying to install TWRP 3.0.2.0 Athene.
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I did manually boot it. I went back to bootloader, then choose recovery again and it goes back to TWRP. After I boot to system is when the issue occurs. If I go back to bootloader after booting to system, that is when I have the problem. Once I try to go into recovery again it goes to stack recovery. I am trying to install TWRP 3.0.2.0 Athene.
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try latest twrp 3.1.0
I got it working. I had originally set it to read only and I think that was the issue. Reinstalled it and mounted system and then choose to allow modifications. It then worked. Now onto root, we will see how that goes.
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try latest twrp 3.1.0
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When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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If you're using SuperSU v2.79 SR3 beta ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133), this already is configured for systemless, and if you're going for SuperSU, that's the version I recommend. Any versions below 2.79 SR3 appear to have created boot issues on Nougat (or required the echo systemless command to work).
ElementalX (1.0.4 stock is what you want) is stable and is essential for rooting. Don't try to root your device without flashing a custom kernel like ElementalX or vegito, else if you try to root the stock Nougat kernel, you'll likely trip anti-root kit/anti-rooting security (dm-verity, I recall?) and will prevent your device from booting. By flashing ElementalX or vegito, you'll bypass that security.
A useful checklist to follow is in this guide here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918 Having a newer version of TWRP shouldn't matter (and in fact may present less issues). With step 6, you may choose to flash either magisk or SuperSU as mentioned by tywinlannister7 (I've not had experience with phh superuser, so cannot comment). If, at some point in the future, you wish to swap rooting methods, I'd suggest following the recommended unrooting procedure for your existing root manager (e.g. unrooting from the SuperSU app settings, or flashing the magisk uninstaller, check their respective pages on XDA) before changing root managers. I've used the aforementioned checklist to root a XT1642 on Nougat without issue.
As for downgrading your system to Marshmallow if you so choose, that is possible. Verify the MM firmware you need (a selection for XT1644, retus channel devices, is here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/) and use that firmware with a guide like this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961 If you're using fastboot rather than mfastboot, replace mfastboot in the provided script with fastboot.
EDIT - no worries @pastorbob62 - good to have another member verifying information
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When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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NO! NO! NO! Do not use the systemless root method. That is for Marshmallow ONLY!. You will not be able to boot into the system after trying that and you may have to go all of the way back to flashing stock from fastboot to fix it.
ElementX-G4 kernel plays well with Nougat stock. I ran it with stock Nougat for a couple of weeks on my XT1625 without any major issues. So flash it from TWRP. Be sure you have the correct version. Then boot to system to check it out. Next reboot to TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.79. Boot back to the system. It will probably boot a couple of times before the system comes up. Don't panic. You should be good to go.
Edit: Sorry echo92. I was typing my reply at the same time you were. :good:
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If you're using SuperSU v2.79 SR3 beta ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133), this already is configured for systemless, and if you're going for SuperSU, that's the version I recommend. Any versions below 2.79 SR3 appear to have created boot issues on Nougat (or required the echo systemless command to work).
ElementalX (1.0.4 stock is what you want) is stable and is essential for rooting. Don't try to root your device without flashing a custom kernel like ElementalX or vegito, else if you try to root the stock Nougat kernel, you'll likely trip anti-root kit/anti-rooting security (dm-verity, I recall?) and will prevent your device from booting. By flashing ElementalX or vegito, you'll bypass that security.
A useful checklist to follow is in this guide here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918 Having a newer version of TWRP shouldn't matter (and in fact may present less issues). With step 6, you may choose to flash either magisk or SuperSU as mentioned by tywinlannister7 (I've not had experience with phh superuser, so cannot comment). If, at some point in the future, you wish to swap rooting methods, I'd suggest following the recommended unrooting procedure for your existing root manager (e.g. unrooting from the SuperSU app settings, or flashing the magisk uninstaller, check their respective pages on XDA) before changing root managers. I've used the aforementioned checklist to root a XT1642 on Nougat without issue.
As for downgrading your system to Marshmallow if you so choose, that is possible. Verify the MM firmware you need (a selection for XT1644, retus channel devices, is here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/) and use that firmware with a guide like this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961 If you're using fastboot rather than mfastboot, replace mfastboot in the provided script with fastboot.
EDIT - no worries @pastorbob62 - good to have another member verifying information
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Thanks for all the information, it is very much appreciated. Thanks to pastorbob62 as well. This information will be very useful.
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NO! NO! NO! Do not use the systemless root method. That is for Marshmallow ONLY!. You will not be able to boot into the system after trying that and you may have to go all of the way back to flashing stock from fastboot to fix it.
ElementX-G4 kernel plays well with Nougat stock. I ran it with stock Nougat for a couple of weeks on my XT1625 without any major issues. So flash it from TWRP. Be sure you have the correct version. Then boot to system to check it out. Next reboot to TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.79. Boot back to the system. It will probably boot a couple of times before the system comes up. Don't panic. You should be good to go.
Edit: Sorry echo92. I was typing my reply at the same time you were. :good:
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One other thing, can I back up the stock kernel? Or at least find it somewhere for download. Is this something I can backup using TWRP? Thanks again.
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One other thing, can I back up the stock kernel? Or at least find it somewhere for download. Is this something I can backup using TWRP? Thanks again.
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Got it figured out. Backing up my boot.img via TWRP ensures my stock kernel is safe. Already installed elemental X and SuperSU and all went perfectly smooth. Thanks again for the links.
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Got it figured out. Backing up my boot.img via TWRP ensures my stock kernel is safe. Already installed elemental X and SuperSU and all went perfectly smooth. Thanks again for the links.
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You are very welcome. Glad you got it figured out and all is working well. :good:
Hey guys... I know I am late to the thread but if you see this, can you inform me how can I receive updates afterwards? I currently have twrp with elementx kernel and Magisk. And there is a security patch out for the phone. How can I install that?
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Hey guys... I know I am late to the thread but if you see this, can you inform me how can I receive updates afterwards? I currently have twrp with elementx kernel and Magisk. And there is a security patch out for the phone. How can I install that?
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Generally you'd have to revert back to a clean stock ROM, no TWRP, no ElementalX, no magisk. The stock ROM also needs to be in a read only state (no modifications allowed in TWRP) and cannot be debloated (OEM partition needs to be untouched).
You could revert back to a TWRP backup made before you flashed ElementalX, provided you did not let TWRP make modifications. You'd also have to find a stock recovery (if you flashed TWRP), and restore a stock logo.bin as well if you flashed a custom logo.bin to hide the bootloader warning. Then, you should be able to apply OTA/security updates. Attempts to apply OTA updates with TWRP on your device will likely fail and leave you in a soft bootloop unless you boot via the bootloader. You could try this to break the bootloop: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The easiest and safest method I've found is to re-flash the stock ROM you have. Ensure this is the same firmware as you currently have and the latest firmware that you've flashed onto your device (don't downgrade your firmware if possible). You can re-flash without erasing your data by omitting the fastboot erase userdata command. However, I would recommend you back up your device anyway (e.g. in TWRP) and any important files, as although this procedure should not affect your data with that command omitted, any firmware flash has the possibility of affecting your device stability. That may require a factory reset/device wipe to fix. Backing up your data should be standard policy when it comes to flashing anything affecting your device's system/underlying firmware.
After re-flashing the stock ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update.
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I really appreciate people like you. [emoji3]
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Hi guys,
I know how rooting and flashing works but I've been using HTC devices since the nexus one so there are some differences I just want to make sure of. I got my 6P yesterday, I unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP. I wanted to gain root but Im not sure about flashing the modified boot img and the vendor thing.
My build was K but I got an OTA before unlocking the bootloader which updated to L. Anyway I don't know why I just formatted every thing in TWRP instead of the factory reset and I lost the OS X_X I tried to restore my nandroid with no luck. Anyway I got the factory img (MDB08L) from google dev and flashed used 'flash-all.bat' in the bootloader, the phone is running fine right now but I would like to update to the latest firmware 6.0.1+root since im not getting any OTA.
I would like to install CleanCore(6.0.1), the guide is
-> Flash Bootloader & Radio (as needed)
-> Flash CleanCore
-> Flash Modified Boot (named angler-xxxxxx-boot.zip)
-> Flash SuperSU or SuperSU Beta
-> Flash latest vendor.img (ROM & Vendor builds need to match!)
1. Should I use MMB29M factory img and flash 'flash-all.bat' like I did with the L build for the first step? then I flash new recovery?
-Flashing the rom through the recovery
2. so after I flash the rom I boot into the bootloader and flash the modified boot img with fastboot flash boot boot.img right?
3. then I go back to recovery and flash SU which I should download before.
4. vendor img is flashed in recovery too or fastboot?
Sorry for the hassle I just want to make sure.
One more thing, in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 at step 9, OP flashes the factroy img files separately (bootloader,radio,etc), is there a problem with using flashall.bat?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my noobish questions.
If you want to keep your data while doing this process, then yes, using the flash-all.bat is a problem. However, if you are fine with reverting back to stock(where you have to activate Android and reinstall all of your apps) then the flash-all.bat file is just fine.
That guide in the thread you linked walks you through how to update without losing data. After doing all of that, you'll just need to install TWRP and SuperSU again(do the latest systemless supersu though)
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If you want to keep your data while doing this process, then yes, using the flash-all.bat is a problem. However, if you are fine with reverting back to stock(where you have to activate Android and reinstall all of your apps) then the flash-all.bat file is just fine.
That guide in the thread you linked walks you through how to update without losing data. After doing all of that, you'll just need to install TWRP and SuperSU again(do the latest systemless supersu though)
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Thanks for the help.
I have rooted my stock rom and gained root. I also installed exposed so i'll be fine without a custom rom for some time. There has been a report that some cameras aren't working on 6.0.1 with root so I'll wait for a while.
Thanks again
mr.dj26 said:
Thanks for the help.
I have rooted my stock rom and gained root. I also installed exposed so i'll be fine without a custom rom for some time. There has been a report that some cameras aren't working on 6.0.1 with root so I'll wait for a while.
Thanks again
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I'm pretty sure those reports are because they used the SuperSU root method that didn't auto patch the boot image(which is the version(or two versions) behind the current version of SuperSU). This is happening because people are updating to 6.0.1, but the patched SuperSU boot image is for 6.0 and the 6.0 boot image conflicts with 6.0.1
As long as you use the latest version of SuperSU then you won't have any trouble with the camera
Enddo said:
I'm pretty sure those reports are because they used the SuperSU root method that didn't auto patch the boot image(which is the version(or two versions) behind the current version of SuperSU). This is happening because people are updating to 6.0.1, but the patched SuperSU boot image is for 6.0 and the 6.0 boot image conflicts with 6.0.1
As long as you use the latest version of SuperSU then you won't have any trouble with the camera
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Thanks for the info
Hey does anyone know how to do this? I can't find any stock system or recovery images. I'm trying to make my device fully stock again (re-enabling encryption) so I can file a warranty claim. Would booting into fastboot and restoring using the LG Mobile Support Tool (http://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware-drivers) be all I need to restore back? Thanks!
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Hey does anyone know how to do this? I can't find any stock system or recovery images. I'm trying to make my device fully stock again (re-enabling encryption) so I can file a warranty claim. Would booting into fastboot and restoring using the LG Mobile Support Tool (http://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware-drivers) be all I need to restore back? Thanks!
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The only way known so far to return to stock is to flash these IMG files in TWRP. As for re-enabling encryption that's something I have no idea of but these images system and boot should bring you back to stock. https://build.nethunter.com/misc/us996/v10d/?C=N&O=D by jcadduono
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The only way known so far to return to stock is to flash these IMG files in TWRP. As for re-enabling encryption that's something I have no idea of but these images system and boot should bring you back to stock. https://build.nethunter.com/misc/us996/v10d/?C=N&O=D by jcadduono
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Did this work? I have a V20 US996 (unlocked, not US Cellular) that I'd like to return to stock, after something has corrupted somewhere, making it hard for me to flash kernels, su binaries, and the like. Isn't LGUP preferred at this point? Would flashing from TWRP bring it back to stock? I'd think that the custom recovery would still be intact when you're done. I can't seem to get LGUP to even start on my PC, let alone get it to recognize my phone.
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Did this work? I have a V20 US996 (unlocked, not US Cellular) that I'd like to return to stock, after something has corrupted somewhere, making it hard for me to flash kernels, su binaries, and the like. Isn't LGUP preferred at this point? Would flashing from TWRP bring it back to stock? I'd think that the custom recovery would still be intact when you're done. I can't seem to get LGUP to even start on my PC, let alone get it to recognize my phone.
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Going back to complete stock I would suggest using LG's tools. After flashing back to stock you can re-lock the bootloader which should clear the boot-up warning.
If you want to try and just recover from bad flashing, and you have access to TWRP, you can try to flash the zip from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573
That should bring you back to 100% stock, minus recovery, and then automatically install SuperSU. I'll most likely be adding a zip without the automatic installation of SuperSU so that users can have a choice on what SU they want to use.
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Going back to complete stock I would suggest using LG's tools. After flashing back to stock you can re-lock the bootloader which should clear the boot-up warning.
If you want to try and just recover from bad flashing, and you have access to TWRP, you can try to flash the zip from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573
That should bring you back to 100% stock, minus recovery, and then automatically install SuperSU. I'll most likely be adding a zip without the automatic installation of SuperSU so that users can have a choice on what SU they want to use.
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I'm actually trying to get MagiskSU working, so that I can be SafetyNet compliant for snapchat, androidpay, and concur (business expense app). I'd prefer to stay on the WETA rom for the extra tweaks. Lots of users post pics of MagiskSU working in WETA, but it seems they're all on other carriers with carrier-specific models. I'd think that the US996 would be EASIER to work with. Any suggestion? Thanks for the reply!
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I'm actually trying to get MagiskSU working, so that I can be SafetyNet compliant for snapchat, androidpay, and concur (business expense app). I'd prefer to stay on the WETA rom for the extra tweaks. Lots of users post pics of MagiskSU working in WETA, but it seems they're all on other carriers with carrier-specific models. I'd think that the US996 would be EASIER to work with. Any suggestion? Thanks for the reply!
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MagiskSU is actually the reason I want to upload the zip(s) without the automatic SuperSU. (Allow users to pick between SuperSU & MagiskSU). I started using Magisk so that I can bypass SafetyNet. Unfortunately I've only used the stock ROM so I don't have many tips for getting MagiskSU working on WETA. I assume it's pre-rooted with SuperSU so I would say performing a full un-root within the SuperSU app and then flashing the Magisk zip in recovery could get you up and running with Magisk. It's also worth nothing that I've only been successful with v11.6 of Magisk on the stock ROM. v12.0 causes an unstable system.
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MagiskSU is actually the reason I want to upload the zip(s) without the automatic SuperSU. (Allow users to pick between SuperSU & MagiskSU). I started using Magisk so that I can bypass SafetyNet. Unfortunately I've only used the stock ROM so I don't have many tips for getting MagiskSU working on WETA. I assume it's pre-rooted with SuperSU so I would say performing a full un-root within the SuperSU app and then flashing the Magisk zip in recovery could get you up and running with Magisk. It's also worth nothing that I've only been successful with v11.6 of Magisk on the stock ROM. v12.0 causes an unstable system.
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There is a v13 of Magisk that's out if you go to their git.
WETA has an AROMA installer, and you can choose to NOT install superSU. However, when I do that, the phone won't boot. It just sits there for 20min+ (flashing the rom with supersu takes about 5min to boot). The same non-booting issue used to happen when trying to update the binary, but I flashed something that fixed that. (I flashed so much stuff and something worked... I wish I knew which it was). However, SuperSU is like burned into my ramdisk or something, and it can't come out. When I tried to do the full unroot in SuperSU, it either fails, or the phone won't boot. But, there are options along that way that I don't know what to pick. Can you suggest what to do? Here... let me elaborate:
SuperSu v2.82 > "Full Unroot" > Continue (warning that some kernels auto-root. I'm on konverged... not sure if that's good or bad for this)
Attempt to Restore boot image? > YES
Attempt to restore stock recovery image? YES or NO?
.......YES "Uninstallation failed."
.......NO "Uninstallation failed."
Attempt to Restore boot image? > NO
Phone reboots within seconds... then sits and sits until I pull the battery.
....I then have to dirty-flash my ROM with superSU to get it to boot to the OS.
Helpful others with more knowledge than I have suggested that my problems are due to the latest version of TWRP corrupting ramdisk because of bad compression. Most of this is over my head when it comes to the actual development of recoveries, kernels, etc.
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There is a v13 of Magisk that's out if you go to their git.
WETA has an AROMA installer, and you can choose to NOT install superSU. However, when I do that, the phone won't boot. It just sits there for 20min+ (flashing the rom with supersu takes about 5min to boot). The same non-booting issue used to happen when trying to update the binary, but I flashed something that fixed that. (I flashed so much stuff and something worked... I wish I knew which it was). However, SuperSU is like burned into my ramdisk or something, and it can't come out. When I tried to do the full unroot in SuperSU, it either fails, or the phone won't boot. But, there are options along that way that I don't know what to pick. Can you suggest what to do? Here... let me elaborate:
SuperSu v2.82 > "Full Unroot" > Continue (warning that some kernels auto-root. I'm on konverged... not sure if that's good or bad for this)
Attempt to Restore boot image? > YES
Attempt to restore stock recovery image? YES or NO?
.......YES "Uninstallation failed."
.......NO "Uninstallation failed."
Attempt to Restore boot image? > NO
Phone reboots within seconds... then sits and sits until I pull the battery.
....I then have to dirty-flash my ROM with superSU to get it to boot to the OS.
Helpful others with more knowledge than I have suggested that my problems are due to the latest version of TWRP corrupting ramdisk because of bad compression. Most of this is over my head when it comes to the actual development of recoveries, kernels, etc.
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I doubt I'll try v13 unless there's a real reason for it (haven't looked at the changes yet). Since I'm stable on v11.6 I'm not too inclined to attempt to upgrade again (since v12 kept crashing the SystemUI).
Have you tried choosing not to install SuperSU in WETA and then flashing the Magisk zip right after completing the WETA install (before attempting to boot system)?
Another idea is to flash a stock boot image (since the one in WETA is modified slightly), flash WETA with kernel and SuperSU options turned off, and then flash Magisk.
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I doubt I'll try v13 unless there's a real reason for it (haven't looked at the changes yet). Since I'm stable on v11.6 I'm not too inclined to attempt to upgrade again (since v12 kept crashing the SystemUI).
Have you tried choosing not to install SuperSU in WETA and then flashing the Magisk zip right after completing the WETA install (before attempting to boot system)?
Another idea is to flash a stock boot image (since the one in WETA is modified slightly), flash WETA with kernel and SuperSU options turned off, and then flash Magisk.
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no luck. Unless I have the wrong boot.img (I was given one earlier in trying to troubleshoot).
I flashed a boot.img that was supposedly for my phone, then flashed WETA with no kernel, no SU. Then I flashed Magisk. It flashed... but the phone wouldn't boot.
I restored the boot partition from my initial TWRP backup and tried flashing WETA again... followed by Magisk. This time, Magisk failed to run because it said SuperSU was already patched (I made the TWRP backup after installing SuperSU) and it couldn't flash.
I tried flashing WETA with the kernel, but no SU... and then immediately following it with flashing Magisk, and it wouldn't boot.
I should probably start a new thread, or post in the WETA thread. I got a little off-topic here. I initially just wanted to see if there was any advice on returning to stock on my US996.
Thanks for the suggestions
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no luck. Unless I have the wrong boot.img (I was given one earlier in trying to troubleshoot).
I flashed a boot.img that was supposedly for my phone, then flashed WETA with no kernel, no SU. Then I flashed Magisk. It flashed... but the phone wouldn't boot.
I restored the boot partition from my initial TWRP backup and tried flashing WETA again... followed by Magisk. This time, Magisk failed to run because it said SuperSU was already patched (I made the TWRP backup after installing SuperSU) and it couldn't flash.
I tried flashing WETA with the kernel, but no SU... and then immediately following it with flashing Magisk, and it wouldn't boot.
I should probably start a new thread, or post in the WETA thread. I got a little off-topic here. I initially just wanted to see if there was any advice on returning to stock on my US996.
Thanks for the suggestions
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You're welcome! Sorry it didn't work. I do know it takes a few minutes for it to boot up the first time, but I imagine you waited pretty long. I have heard of phones taking 10-15 minutes to boot up after flashing.
I did add US99610h stock firmware to my thread at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573 if you want to return to the newest stock firmware of the US996.
I hope you are able to get Magisk installed as it's nice to get past SafetyNet. Good luck!
Good evening ladys and gentlemen,
hoping you can help me with my root-not staying-problem.
I have the A2017G B09 version. I already managed to unlock my device and I had root with xposed installed.
Sounds good so far, right?
Well my problem is that after the restart that is needed to activate my xposed modules, my root went away and I couldn't get it back. After that I tried to do it again but root wouln't stick no matter what.
And yes, I did use the "reboot disemmcwp" command.
I tried to root by flashing the newest chainfire supersu 2.79, since I have newest twrp 3.0.3-1.
It would be great if you would be able to help me on my journey and maybe explain to me the difference between systemless and normal, and what magisk is since I saw that op up a few times.
Oh and please tell me from where I should start if I want to work on everything android related (roms, kernel, apps) since my semsester is nearing its end.
Thanks in advance.
Systemless root means that the /system partition is not modified, however the boot image is altered. There is much hype on this, however there still are many mods out there requiring modifications of /system. I personally do not see any advantage of it, probably because I have been using custom ROMs for years, and custom ROMs has many alterations to the /system compared to stock or pure CM or AOSP roms. However it is clear that the future goes that way and eventually most of the mods will be systemless. The advantage is that you will supposedly be able to flash OTA upgrades, however if the OTA is also modifying the boot partition, then it doesn't matter, you will not be able to flash the OTA upgrade. So the benefits of systemless mods are arguable.
Magisk is an open root. it is systemless from the beginning and any module under Magisk framework will be systemless. So far no official Magisk release (latest at this time is v10.2) is compatible with the Axon stock ROM. However, the latest v10.3-beta2 seems to fix the root injection problem. It is included in the Bad Boyz custom ROM.
There are some apps not working on root devices. They use a SafetyNet procedure to check for that, such as Android Pay or Pokemon Go. However there are ways to overcome this security check and you can enjoy root and SafetyNet compatibility either using SuperSU or Magisk, system or systemless root. the issue becomes a little tricky when adding Xposed mod framework to the mix, since the procedures to have all 3 (root, SafetyNet and Xposed) working is not that straightforward. However this is possible in the Axon 7. You can find one of my guides in the links in my signature.
Enjoy!!!!
Thanks for the info. I actually used your guide but nothing came out of it. I got stuck on the Axon screen. Tried it multiple times. Guess I'll try again either after the N update or when I get impatient.
Try reflashing supersu don't reboot, then use terminal in TWRP to do reboot disemmcwp and see if it works. I usually use root Explorer to see if I can change /system to r/w. If it did not work go back to terminal in TWRP and try again. I have had to do it a few times to get it to work. Using adb terminal seems to work first time, terminal apps have not worked for me.
Yuujinz said:
Thanks for the info. I actually used your guide but nothing came out of it. I got stuck on the Axon screen. Tried it multiple times. Guess I'll try again either after the N update or when I get impatient.
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If you tried my guide, then you must use ROM B29 or any other ROM based on B29. I am afraid that the patch is only compatible with B27 or B29 based kernels.
Oki said:
If you tried my guide, then you must use ROM B29 or any other ROM based on B29. I am afraid that the patch is only compatible with B27 or B29 based kernels.
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Wouldn't it brick my european device?
Yuujinz said:
Wouldn't it brick my european device?
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You can flash directly the BootStack for your version of Axon 7 and the B29 ROM (or any other custom ROM) using TWRP. You can get those files from https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/rom-guide-updates-to-stock-files-via-t3469484
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You can flash directly the BootStack for your version of Axon 7 and the B29 ROM (or any other custom ROM) using TWRP. You can get those files from https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/rom-guide-updates-to-stock-files-via-t3469484
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Ok thanks I'll do it this evening
Or maybe not, to risky.
I have a Moto G4 Athene (not Plus, and not Play).
I did the following:
unlocked bootloader
flashed TeamWin recovery
installed SuperSu 2.79 SR3 from TeamWin install
The phone no longer boots. Just a black screen. Flashing notification light if put on USB.
I can still get into the bootloader, and from there into TeamWin recovery, but I'm not having any luck beyond that.
Sadly, I didn't create a backup.
I tried installing LineageOS 14.1, pushing with ADB in recovery, and then installing with TeamWin. Even though I can add the file to the phone and I can run the install, a reboot returns a black screen.
Any advice? I'm afraid this isn't looking too good.
By the way, you can just work with twrp after installing that... stock recovery (fastboot adb) doesn't belong anymore. At first I would suggest that you post the details which are shown in your bootloader.
Furthermore I would recommend just to flash stock rom and testing that case.
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Ferwerda said:
I have a Moto G4 Athene (not Plus, and not Play).
I did the following:
unlocked bootloader
flashed TeamWin recovery
installed SuperSu 2.79 SR3 from TeamWin install
The phone no longer boots. Just a black screen. Flashing notification light if put on USB.
I can still get into the bootloader, and from there into TeamWin recovery, but I'm not having any luck beyond that.
Sadly, I didn't create a backup.
I tried installing LineageOS 14.1, pushing with ADB in recovery, and then installing with TeamWin. Even though I can add the file to the phone and I can run the install, a reboot returns a black screen.
Any advice? I'm afraid this isn't looking too good.
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First of all, if you read their corresponding threads, you need to do the following when rooting:
- Unlock bootloader/flash TWRP (you did)
- Flash a custom kernel (Vegito or ElementalX)
- And then wipe ART/Dalvik Cache
Second, for LineageOS- you cannot dirty flash custom ROMs, EVER EVER EVER! By this I mean you have to wipe system/data/cache/dalvik etc.- you can ignore Internal Storage and the SDCard/OTG.
You may (should) have to flash the Moto G4 Nougat radio that's floating around XDA somewhere. LOS worked fine for me without doing that, but I know other ROMs require it.
Finally, as a quick heads up, all Moto G4 Plus ROMs work fine with the G4, including any stock ROMs/backups.
Edit: I heavily suggest Magisk or phh SU over SuperSU- Magisk allows you to use SnapChat and Pokemon Go, and phh's is open source.
Thanks for the responses.
I was able to restore the phone with a stock rom I found on these boards. After that, I received two OTA, one to 6.0.1 and then the current to 7.0.0.
I have the same problem than you... Can you send me the link that you use to fix it?
Ferwerda said:
Thanks for the responses.
I was able to restore the phone with a stock rom I found on these boards. After that, I received two OTA, one to 6.0.1 and then the current to 7.0.0.
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raulcalaca said:
I have the same problem than you... Can you send me the link that you use to fix it?
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Just flash ElementalX 1.04 kernel (after flashing SuperSu or Superuser or Magisk) when trying to root STOCK Nougat 7.0 as it's designed to thwart any root attempt.
Ferwerda said:
Thanks for the responses.
I was able to restore the phone with a stock rom I found on these boards. After that, I received two OTA, one to 6.0.1 and then the current to 7.0.0.
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can you please give the step by step guide you followed to recover your phone!!!
I just got my Moto G4 Plus and want to root it. Does somebody have a good guide for rooting it?
I found this guide on youtube, can I just follow this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bhXe3msxU&t=3s
What stock OS are you running on your device, Marshmallow or Nougat?
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What stock OS are you running on your device, Marshmallow or Nougat?
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I just updated to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow
If you're on Marshmallow (6.0.1), then the guide you linked should work, you may wish to keep the stock kernel (and not flash ElementalX). Also, instead of phh superuser, you could choose to flash SuperSU or magisk.
Here's a guide for rooting on Marshmallow 6.0.1 as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/root-systemless-rooting-supersu-2-74-2-t3405772 You may wish to use a newer build of SuperSU than mentioned in the guide - the latest build currently is 2.82 SR1.
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If you're on Marshmallow (6.0.1), then the guide you linked should work, you may wish to keep the stock kernel (and not flash ElementalX). Also, instead of phh superuser, you could choose to flash SuperSU or magisk.
Here's a guide for rooting on Marshmallow 6.0.1 as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/root-systemless-rooting-supersu-2-74-2-t3405772 You may wish to use a newer build of SuperSU than mentioned in the guide - the latest build currently is 2.82 SR1.
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I found a video that showed how to unlock bootloader, and uses SuperSU when rooting. Can I use this guide insted, or is it to old you think?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2uacpjGwc&t=119s
Thank you so much for all the help btw
skismas said:
I found a video that showed how to unlock bootloader, and uses SuperSU when rooting. Can I use this guide insted, or is it to old you think?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2uacpjGwc&t=119s
Thank you so much for all the help btw
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Looking through that video, I think it should work for 6.0.1 - as an aside for anyone reading this, the root procedure for Nougat is different. Though the resources linked in the video may work (I have not tested them), you may, as I mentioned above, wish to flash newer versions of TWRP and SuperSU than that linked in the video:
TWRP - (official): https://dl.twrp.me/athene/
I personally use shreps' TWRP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...covery-twrp-3-0-2-r3-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3494337
SuperSU v2.82: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703 Ideally, you'll want to use v2.79 SR3 or newer as they're systemless root.
EDIT: this guide linked to in the video has a nice description of some of the steps you'll need: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
One thing I'd add to those guides is before you flash SuperSU, make a backup of all of the partitions in TWRP (on the TWRP main menu, you'll see 'Backup'). If SuperSU fails to root or causes instabilty, you'll have a backup to fall back to.
Additionally, when flashing TWRP, you'll see the 'Image not signed or corrupted' warning, that's normal. As long as [OKAY] comes up in fastboot after flashing and you reboot to recovery afterwards (so TWRP is set as your recovery), then TWRP should stick.
You may also receive OTA messages - do not accept these whilst rooted and with TWRP. if you wish to turn them off, have a look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72373828&postcount=12
Don't FLASH TWRP, just BOOT it up, do whatever you need to do and... keep your stock bootloader. The TWRP is useful mostly for CM/Lineage ROM's, for stock it's just a headache waiting to happen.
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Looking through that video, I think it should work for 6.0.1 - as an aside for anyone reading this, the root procedure for Nougat is different. Though the resources linked in the video may work (I have not tested them), you may, as I mentioned above, wish to flash newer versions of TWRP and SuperSU than that linked in the video:
TWRP - (official): https://dl.twrp.me/athene/
I personally use shreps' TWRP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...covery-twrp-3-0-2-r3-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3494337
SuperSU v2.82: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703 Ideally, you'll want to use v2.79 SR3 or newer as they're systemless root.
EDIT: this guide linked to in the video has a nice description of some of the steps you'll need: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
One thing I'd add to those guides is before you flash SuperSU, make a backup of all of the partitions in TWRP (on the TWRP main menu, you'll see 'Backup'). If SuperSU fails to root or causes instabilty, you'll have a backup to fall back to.
Additionally, when flashing TWRP, you'll see the 'Image not signed or corrupted' warning, that's normal. As long as [OKAY] comes up in fastboot after flashing and you reboot to recovery afterwards (so TWRP is set as your recovery), then TWRP should stick.
You may also receive OTA messages - do not accept these whilst rooted and with TWRP. if you wish to turn them off, have a look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72373828&postcount=12
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I managed to root my phone without bricking it! I think......
SuperSU was not on the phone when I rebooted the phone like in the video. I had to download it through play store. But since it says its rooted on root checker, and I could grant it permission, im pretty sure I done it right.
Thanks for the help I really appreciate it