Root not sticking! Need professional help. - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Good evening ladys and gentlemen,
hoping you can help me with my root-not staying-problem.
I have the A2017G B09 version. I already managed to unlock my device and I had root with xposed installed.
Sounds good so far, right?
Well my problem is that after the restart that is needed to activate my xposed modules, my root went away and I couldn't get it back. After that I tried to do it again but root wouln't stick no matter what.
And yes, I did use the "reboot disemmcwp" command.
I tried to root by flashing the newest chainfire supersu 2.79, since I have newest twrp 3.0.3-1.
It would be great if you would be able to help me on my journey and maybe explain to me the difference between systemless and normal, and what magisk is since I saw that op up a few times.
Oh and please tell me from where I should start if I want to work on everything android related (roms, kernel, apps) since my semsester is nearing its end.
Thanks in advance.

Systemless root means that the /system partition is not modified, however the boot image is altered. There is much hype on this, however there still are many mods out there requiring modifications of /system. I personally do not see any advantage of it, probably because I have been using custom ROMs for years, and custom ROMs has many alterations to the /system compared to stock or pure CM or AOSP roms. However it is clear that the future goes that way and eventually most of the mods will be systemless. The advantage is that you will supposedly be able to flash OTA upgrades, however if the OTA is also modifying the boot partition, then it doesn't matter, you will not be able to flash the OTA upgrade. So the benefits of systemless mods are arguable.
Magisk is an open root. it is systemless from the beginning and any module under Magisk framework will be systemless. So far no official Magisk release (latest at this time is v10.2) is compatible with the Axon stock ROM. However, the latest v10.3-beta2 seems to fix the root injection problem. It is included in the Bad Boyz custom ROM.
There are some apps not working on root devices. They use a SafetyNet procedure to check for that, such as Android Pay or Pokemon Go. However there are ways to overcome this security check and you can enjoy root and SafetyNet compatibility either using SuperSU or Magisk, system or systemless root. the issue becomes a little tricky when adding Xposed mod framework to the mix, since the procedures to have all 3 (root, SafetyNet and Xposed) working is not that straightforward. However this is possible in the Axon 7. You can find one of my guides in the links in my signature.
Enjoy!!!!

Thanks for the info. I actually used your guide but nothing came out of it. I got stuck on the Axon screen. Tried it multiple times. Guess I'll try again either after the N update or when I get impatient.

Try reflashing supersu don't reboot, then use terminal in TWRP to do reboot disemmcwp and see if it works. I usually use root Explorer to see if I can change /system to r/w. If it did not work go back to terminal in TWRP and try again. I have had to do it a few times to get it to work. Using adb terminal seems to work first time, terminal apps have not worked for me.

Yuujinz said:
Thanks for the info. I actually used your guide but nothing came out of it. I got stuck on the Axon screen. Tried it multiple times. Guess I'll try again either after the N update or when I get impatient.
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If you tried my guide, then you must use ROM B29 or any other ROM based on B29. I am afraid that the patch is only compatible with B27 or B29 based kernels.

Oki said:
If you tried my guide, then you must use ROM B29 or any other ROM based on B29. I am afraid that the patch is only compatible with B27 or B29 based kernels.
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Wouldn't it brick my european device?

Yuujinz said:
Wouldn't it brick my european device?
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You can flash directly the BootStack for your version of Axon 7 and the B29 ROM (or any other custom ROM) using TWRP. You can get those files from https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/rom-guide-updates-to-stock-files-via-t3469484

Oki said:
You can flash directly the BootStack for your version of Axon 7 and the B29 ROM (or any other custom ROM) using TWRP. You can get those files from https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/rom-guide-updates-to-stock-files-via-t3469484
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Ok thanks I'll do it this evening
Or maybe not, to risky.

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Restore LG US996 back to Stock

Hey does anyone know how to do this? I can't find any stock system or recovery images. I'm trying to make my device fully stock again (re-enabling encryption) so I can file a warranty claim. Would booting into fastboot and restoring using the LG Mobile Support Tool (http://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware-drivers) be all I need to restore back? Thanks!
darkghost568 said:
Hey does anyone know how to do this? I can't find any stock system or recovery images. I'm trying to make my device fully stock again (re-enabling encryption) so I can file a warranty claim. Would booting into fastboot and restoring using the LG Mobile Support Tool (http://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware-drivers) be all I need to restore back? Thanks!
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The only way known so far to return to stock is to flash these IMG files in TWRP. As for re-enabling encryption that's something I have no idea of but these images system and boot should bring you back to stock. https://build.nethunter.com/misc/us996/v10d/?C=N&O=D by jcadduono
OneDon said:
The only way known so far to return to stock is to flash these IMG files in TWRP. As for re-enabling encryption that's something I have no idea of but these images system and boot should bring you back to stock. https://build.nethunter.com/misc/us996/v10d/?C=N&O=D by jcadduono
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Did this work? I have a V20 US996 (unlocked, not US Cellular) that I'd like to return to stock, after something has corrupted somewhere, making it hard for me to flash kernels, su binaries, and the like. Isn't LGUP preferred at this point? Would flashing from TWRP bring it back to stock? I'd think that the custom recovery would still be intact when you're done. I can't seem to get LGUP to even start on my PC, let alone get it to recognize my phone.
DrPhant0m said:
Did this work? I have a V20 US996 (unlocked, not US Cellular) that I'd like to return to stock, after something has corrupted somewhere, making it hard for me to flash kernels, su binaries, and the like. Isn't LGUP preferred at this point? Would flashing from TWRP bring it back to stock? I'd think that the custom recovery would still be intact when you're done. I can't seem to get LGUP to even start on my PC, let alone get it to recognize my phone.
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Going back to complete stock I would suggest using LG's tools. After flashing back to stock you can re-lock the bootloader which should clear the boot-up warning.
If you want to try and just recover from bad flashing, and you have access to TWRP, you can try to flash the zip from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573
That should bring you back to 100% stock, minus recovery, and then automatically install SuperSU. I'll most likely be adding a zip without the automatic installation of SuperSU so that users can have a choice on what SU they want to use.
McNutnut said:
Going back to complete stock I would suggest using LG's tools. After flashing back to stock you can re-lock the bootloader which should clear the boot-up warning.
If you want to try and just recover from bad flashing, and you have access to TWRP, you can try to flash the zip from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573
That should bring you back to 100% stock, minus recovery, and then automatically install SuperSU. I'll most likely be adding a zip without the automatic installation of SuperSU so that users can have a choice on what SU they want to use.
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I'm actually trying to get MagiskSU working, so that I can be SafetyNet compliant for snapchat, androidpay, and concur (business expense app). I'd prefer to stay on the WETA rom for the extra tweaks. Lots of users post pics of MagiskSU working in WETA, but it seems they're all on other carriers with carrier-specific models. I'd think that the US996 would be EASIER to work with. Any suggestion? Thanks for the reply!
DrPhant0m said:
I'm actually trying to get MagiskSU working, so that I can be SafetyNet compliant for snapchat, androidpay, and concur (business expense app). I'd prefer to stay on the WETA rom for the extra tweaks. Lots of users post pics of MagiskSU working in WETA, but it seems they're all on other carriers with carrier-specific models. I'd think that the US996 would be EASIER to work with. Any suggestion? Thanks for the reply!
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MagiskSU is actually the reason I want to upload the zip(s) without the automatic SuperSU. (Allow users to pick between SuperSU & MagiskSU). I started using Magisk so that I can bypass SafetyNet. Unfortunately I've only used the stock ROM so I don't have many tips for getting MagiskSU working on WETA. I assume it's pre-rooted with SuperSU so I would say performing a full un-root within the SuperSU app and then flashing the Magisk zip in recovery could get you up and running with Magisk. It's also worth nothing that I've only been successful with v11.6 of Magisk on the stock ROM. v12.0 causes an unstable system.
McNutnut said:
MagiskSU is actually the reason I want to upload the zip(s) without the automatic SuperSU. (Allow users to pick between SuperSU & MagiskSU). I started using Magisk so that I can bypass SafetyNet. Unfortunately I've only used the stock ROM so I don't have many tips for getting MagiskSU working on WETA. I assume it's pre-rooted with SuperSU so I would say performing a full un-root within the SuperSU app and then flashing the Magisk zip in recovery could get you up and running with Magisk. It's also worth nothing that I've only been successful with v11.6 of Magisk on the stock ROM. v12.0 causes an unstable system.
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There is a v13 of Magisk that's out if you go to their git.
WETA has an AROMA installer, and you can choose to NOT install superSU. However, when I do that, the phone won't boot. It just sits there for 20min+ (flashing the rom with supersu takes about 5min to boot). The same non-booting issue used to happen when trying to update the binary, but I flashed something that fixed that. (I flashed so much stuff and something worked... I wish I knew which it was). However, SuperSU is like burned into my ramdisk or something, and it can't come out. When I tried to do the full unroot in SuperSU, it either fails, or the phone won't boot. But, there are options along that way that I don't know what to pick. Can you suggest what to do? Here... let me elaborate:
SuperSu v2.82 > "Full Unroot" > Continue (warning that some kernels auto-root. I'm on konverged... not sure if that's good or bad for this)
Attempt to Restore boot image? > YES
Attempt to restore stock recovery image? YES or NO?
.......YES "Uninstallation failed."
.......NO "Uninstallation failed."
Attempt to Restore boot image? > NO
Phone reboots within seconds... then sits and sits until I pull the battery.
....I then have to dirty-flash my ROM with superSU to get it to boot to the OS.
Helpful others with more knowledge than I have suggested that my problems are due to the latest version of TWRP corrupting ramdisk because of bad compression. Most of this is over my head when it comes to the actual development of recoveries, kernels, etc.
DrPhant0m said:
There is a v13 of Magisk that's out if you go to their git.
WETA has an AROMA installer, and you can choose to NOT install superSU. However, when I do that, the phone won't boot. It just sits there for 20min+ (flashing the rom with supersu takes about 5min to boot). The same non-booting issue used to happen when trying to update the binary, but I flashed something that fixed that. (I flashed so much stuff and something worked... I wish I knew which it was). However, SuperSU is like burned into my ramdisk or something, and it can't come out. When I tried to do the full unroot in SuperSU, it either fails, or the phone won't boot. But, there are options along that way that I don't know what to pick. Can you suggest what to do? Here... let me elaborate:
SuperSu v2.82 > "Full Unroot" > Continue (warning that some kernels auto-root. I'm on konverged... not sure if that's good or bad for this)
Attempt to Restore boot image? > YES
Attempt to restore stock recovery image? YES or NO?
.......YES "Uninstallation failed."
.......NO "Uninstallation failed."
Attempt to Restore boot image? > NO
Phone reboots within seconds... then sits and sits until I pull the battery.
....I then have to dirty-flash my ROM with superSU to get it to boot to the OS.
Helpful others with more knowledge than I have suggested that my problems are due to the latest version of TWRP corrupting ramdisk because of bad compression. Most of this is over my head when it comes to the actual development of recoveries, kernels, etc.
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I doubt I'll try v13 unless there's a real reason for it (haven't looked at the changes yet). Since I'm stable on v11.6 I'm not too inclined to attempt to upgrade again (since v12 kept crashing the SystemUI).
Have you tried choosing not to install SuperSU in WETA and then flashing the Magisk zip right after completing the WETA install (before attempting to boot system)?
Another idea is to flash a stock boot image (since the one in WETA is modified slightly), flash WETA with kernel and SuperSU options turned off, and then flash Magisk.
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I doubt I'll try v13 unless there's a real reason for it (haven't looked at the changes yet). Since I'm stable on v11.6 I'm not too inclined to attempt to upgrade again (since v12 kept crashing the SystemUI).
Have you tried choosing not to install SuperSU in WETA and then flashing the Magisk zip right after completing the WETA install (before attempting to boot system)?
Another idea is to flash a stock boot image (since the one in WETA is modified slightly), flash WETA with kernel and SuperSU options turned off, and then flash Magisk.
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no luck. Unless I have the wrong boot.img (I was given one earlier in trying to troubleshoot).
I flashed a boot.img that was supposedly for my phone, then flashed WETA with no kernel, no SU. Then I flashed Magisk. It flashed... but the phone wouldn't boot.
I restored the boot partition from my initial TWRP backup and tried flashing WETA again... followed by Magisk. This time, Magisk failed to run because it said SuperSU was already patched (I made the TWRP backup after installing SuperSU) and it couldn't flash.
I tried flashing WETA with the kernel, but no SU... and then immediately following it with flashing Magisk, and it wouldn't boot.
I should probably start a new thread, or post in the WETA thread. I got a little off-topic here. I initially just wanted to see if there was any advice on returning to stock on my US996.
Thanks for the suggestions
DrPhant0m said:
no luck. Unless I have the wrong boot.img (I was given one earlier in trying to troubleshoot).
I flashed a boot.img that was supposedly for my phone, then flashed WETA with no kernel, no SU. Then I flashed Magisk. It flashed... but the phone wouldn't boot.
I restored the boot partition from my initial TWRP backup and tried flashing WETA again... followed by Magisk. This time, Magisk failed to run because it said SuperSU was already patched (I made the TWRP backup after installing SuperSU) and it couldn't flash.
I tried flashing WETA with the kernel, but no SU... and then immediately following it with flashing Magisk, and it wouldn't boot.
I should probably start a new thread, or post in the WETA thread. I got a little off-topic here. I initially just wanted to see if there was any advice on returning to stock on my US996.
Thanks for the suggestions
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You're welcome! Sorry it didn't work. I do know it takes a few minutes for it to boot up the first time, but I imagine you waited pretty long. I have heard of phones taking 10-15 minutes to boot up after flashing.
I did add US99610h stock firmware to my thread at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/us996unlocked-twrp-flashable-10f-t3544573 if you want to return to the newest stock firmware of the US996.
I hope you are able to get Magisk installed as it's nice to get past SafetyNet. Good luck!

Most Simple Way to Upgrade to Nougat? + Other Questions

I'm currently sitting on the stock 6.0.1 B29 ROM for my 2017U A7, which is BL unlocked, rooted (SU 2.79-SR2), Xposed, with RootSwitch working, and TWRP.
What's the most simply way for me to upgrade to Nougat while maintaining those things listed above (aside from Xposed which I know doesn't support Nougat yet)?
Would I be forced to wipe my phone after installing Nougat in order to get everything working optimally?
Are there any issues or potential problems when upgrading that I should be aware of?
Read the nougat thread in general.
lafester said:
Read the nougat thread in general.
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I have seen this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/edl-emergency-dl-mode-twrp-unlock-t3553514
But I was wondering there was a more simple or directly method which doesn't involve EDL mode?
Edit: Nevermind, I don't know why I was expecting a more simple method, nothing on the A7 is more straightforward than that. I'd still like to know if I should be expecting any issues and if a full wipe is needed. For that matter will my phone be wiped anyway if I install that ROM?
Cyrus D. said:
I'm currently sitting on the stock 6.0.1 B29 ROM for my 2017U A7, which is BL unlocked, rooted (SU 2.79-SR2), Xposed, with RootSwitch working, and TWRP.
What's the most simply way for me to upgrade to Nougat while maintaining those things listed above (aside from Xposed which I know doesn't support Nougat yet)?
Would I be forced to wipe my phone after installing Nougat in order to get everything working optimally?
Are there any issues or potential problems when upgrading that I should be aware of?
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I don't see any reason that you couldn't flash the universal bootstack and modem for the U variant from the Lineage thread, and then flash the stock Nougat ROM that's posted in the BadBoyz Magisk thread. Or just flash the bootstack and modem, then flash that ROM, being that it's stock and should still allow you to pass SafetyNet.
bluestudy said:
I don't see any reason that you couldn't flash the universal bootstack and modem for the U variant from the Lineage thread, and then flash the stock Nougat ROM that's posted in the BadBoyz Magisk thread. Or just flash the bootstack and modem, then flash that ROM, being that it's stock and should still allow you to pass SafetyNet.
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I would assume that it'd overwrite TWRP and I'd have to reinstall that again, and considering all the steps overall, that's not really any faster than jcadduono's EDL mode method.
Basically I was hoping there was a method that could just allow one package to be directly flashed and get it all done in one simple go to prevent any possible mistakes.
I said screw and installed the necessary program and drivers to flash the package with the Nougat bootloader + ROM + TWRP in EDL mode, it appears to detect properly, but I don't know if I want to go through with it until Xposed arrives. Between YouTube ads or grinding my face with a belt sander, I think the latter is less painful and horrific.
On the topic of SafetyNet, I currently pass it if I switch root off, yet Nintendo games won't install on my phone. They show as "incompatible with your device" the same as if they detect I have root. I have SUHide installed as well, but I have no idea how to check on that (where it is or how it functions for that matter). Installing the APKs from an alternate source just results in them crashing on start-up. Nintendo REALLY don't want root users playing any of their games.
Cyrus D. said:
I would assume that it'd overwrite TWRP and I'd have to reinstall that again, and considering all the steps overall, that's not really any faster than jcadduono's EDL mode method which installs the bootstack + ROM + TWRP from one package and can recover a brick.
Basically I was hoping there was a method that could just allow one package to be directly flashed and get it all done in one simple go so I don't have to do a song and dance every time I want to change my ROM. But I don't know if I can just do that with jcadduono's package because IIRC TWRP doesn't automatically install things to where they should be, you have to manually select it (recovery, etc) and that package needs to be installed to multiple locations. Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about it.
I said screw and installed the necessary program and drivers to flash the package with the Nougat bootloader + ROM + TWRP in EDL mode, it appears to detect properly, but I don't know if I want to go through with it until Xposed arrives. Between YouTube ads or grinding my face with a belt sander, I think the latter is less painful and horrific.
On the topic of SafetyNet, I currently pass it if I switch root off, yet Nintendo games won't install on my phone. They show as "incompatible with your device" the same as if they detect I have root. I have SUHide installed as well, but I have no idea how to check on that (where it is or how it functions for that matter). Installing the APKs from an alternate source just results in them crashing on start-up. Nintendo REALLY don't want root users playing any of their games.
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Have been able to play Pokemon Go (my son, lol) and Fire Emblem on several Lineage based ROMs using Magisk. Can also get Android Pay to work (except for my bank currently not supporting it, but it doesn't show that I'm running any third party ROM or have my bootloader unlocked.) So, that might be the way for you to go, if you decide to try it out. As far as the EDL method, I've never tried it, but it does seem like an extremely useful tool.
Sorry went back and edited my post. It seems I was mistaken and I'd have to at least flash 2 packages by the EDL method, the TWRP package isn't the full ROM, just the bootloader and recovery. The only thing I can get working is Pokemon Go if I switch off root. Is Magisk working on the stock Nougat ROM as well?

Root XT1644 on Nougat?

So I just updated to the latest xt1644 Nougat JP25.93.14-4 and am having an issue installing TWRP and getting it to stick. I installed it and even did a backup, but once I boot to System and then back to bootloader, and finally to recovery, it goes back to stock recovery. Also I am unsure of how to root this device now with Nougat. I've seen on a few sites differing methods. One site had a download for what they called a root package and it was a SuperSU 2.76 version. Another site said to use Phh SU and just install TWRP and then flash Phh. I don't want to mess anything up, can someone point me in the right direction since it seems everything in this forum is for a device other than the XT1644. Lastly, is it possible to revert back to Marshmellow using fastboot, or is that now not possible? I have unlocked my bootloader, obviously. Thanks.
After flashing TWRP you have to manually boot to TWRP without booting to system first. For rooting you have to flash ElementalX or Vegito Kernel and then flash SuperSU v2.79 SR3 or Magisk v12
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tywinlannister7 said:
After flashing TWRP you have to manually boot to TWRP without booting to system first. For rooting you have to flash ElementalX or Vegito Kernel and then flash SuperSU v2.79 SR3 or Magisk v12
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I did manually boot it. I went back to bootloader, then choose recovery again and it goes back to TWRP. After I boot to system is when the issue occurs. If I go back to bootloader after booting to system, that is when I have the problem. Once I try to go into recovery again it goes to stack recovery. I am trying to install TWRP 3.0.2.0 Athene.
robn30 said:
I did manually boot it. I went back to bootloader, then choose recovery again and it goes back to TWRP. After I boot to system is when the issue occurs. If I go back to bootloader after booting to system, that is when I have the problem. Once I try to go into recovery again it goes to stack recovery. I am trying to install TWRP 3.0.2.0 Athene.
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try latest twrp 3.1.0
I got it working. I had originally set it to read only and I think that was the issue. Reinstalled it and mounted system and then choose to allow modifications. It then worked. Now onto root, we will see how that goes.
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tywinlannister7 said:
try latest twrp 3.1.0
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When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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robn30 said:
When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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If you're using SuperSU v2.79 SR3 beta ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133), this already is configured for systemless, and if you're going for SuperSU, that's the version I recommend. Any versions below 2.79 SR3 appear to have created boot issues on Nougat (or required the echo systemless command to work).
ElementalX (1.0.4 stock is what you want) is stable and is essential for rooting. Don't try to root your device without flashing a custom kernel like ElementalX or vegito, else if you try to root the stock Nougat kernel, you'll likely trip anti-root kit/anti-rooting security (dm-verity, I recall?) and will prevent your device from booting. By flashing ElementalX or vegito, you'll bypass that security.
A useful checklist to follow is in this guide here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918 Having a newer version of TWRP shouldn't matter (and in fact may present less issues). With step 6, you may choose to flash either magisk or SuperSU as mentioned by tywinlannister7 (I've not had experience with phh superuser, so cannot comment). If, at some point in the future, you wish to swap rooting methods, I'd suggest following the recommended unrooting procedure for your existing root manager (e.g. unrooting from the SuperSU app settings, or flashing the magisk uninstaller, check their respective pages on XDA) before changing root managers. I've used the aforementioned checklist to root a XT1642 on Nougat without issue.
As for downgrading your system to Marshmallow if you so choose, that is possible. Verify the MM firmware you need (a selection for XT1644, retus channel devices, is here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/) and use that firmware with a guide like this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961 If you're using fastboot rather than mfastboot, replace mfastboot in the provided script with fastboot.
EDIT - no worries @pastorbob62 - good to have another member verifying information
robn30 said:
When rooting do you still do the little systemless trick or is that already accounted for. Does the elemental X kernel play well and is it nice and stable? Thanks for the info.
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NO! NO! NO! Do not use the systemless root method. That is for Marshmallow ONLY!. You will not be able to boot into the system after trying that and you may have to go all of the way back to flashing stock from fastboot to fix it.
ElementX-G4 kernel plays well with Nougat stock. I ran it with stock Nougat for a couple of weeks on my XT1625 without any major issues. So flash it from TWRP. Be sure you have the correct version. Then boot to system to check it out. Next reboot to TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.79. Boot back to the system. It will probably boot a couple of times before the system comes up. Don't panic. You should be good to go.
Edit: Sorry echo92. I was typing my reply at the same time you were. :good:
echo92 said:
If you're using SuperSU v2.79 SR3 beta ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133), this already is configured for systemless, and if you're going for SuperSU, that's the version I recommend. Any versions below 2.79 SR3 appear to have created boot issues on Nougat (or required the echo systemless command to work).
ElementalX (1.0.4 stock is what you want) is stable and is essential for rooting. Don't try to root your device without flashing a custom kernel like ElementalX or vegito, else if you try to root the stock Nougat kernel, you'll likely trip anti-root kit/anti-rooting security (dm-verity, I recall?) and will prevent your device from booting. By flashing ElementalX or vegito, you'll bypass that security.
A useful checklist to follow is in this guide here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918 Having a newer version of TWRP shouldn't matter (and in fact may present less issues). With step 6, you may choose to flash either magisk or SuperSU as mentioned by tywinlannister7 (I've not had experience with phh superuser, so cannot comment). If, at some point in the future, you wish to swap rooting methods, I'd suggest following the recommended unrooting procedure for your existing root manager (e.g. unrooting from the SuperSU app settings, or flashing the magisk uninstaller, check their respective pages on XDA) before changing root managers. I've used the aforementioned checklist to root a XT1642 on Nougat without issue.
As for downgrading your system to Marshmallow if you so choose, that is possible. Verify the MM firmware you need (a selection for XT1644, retus channel devices, is here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/) and use that firmware with a guide like this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-downgrade-to-marshmallow-nougat-t3515961 If you're using fastboot rather than mfastboot, replace mfastboot in the provided script with fastboot.
EDIT - no worries @pastorbob62 - good to have another member verifying information
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Thanks for all the information, it is very much appreciated. Thanks to pastorbob62 as well. This information will be very useful.
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NO! NO! NO! Do not use the systemless root method. That is for Marshmallow ONLY!. You will not be able to boot into the system after trying that and you may have to go all of the way back to flashing stock from fastboot to fix it.
ElementX-G4 kernel plays well with Nougat stock. I ran it with stock Nougat for a couple of weeks on my XT1625 without any major issues. So flash it from TWRP. Be sure you have the correct version. Then boot to system to check it out. Next reboot to TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.79. Boot back to the system. It will probably boot a couple of times before the system comes up. Don't panic. You should be good to go.
Edit: Sorry echo92. I was typing my reply at the same time you were. :good:
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One other thing, can I back up the stock kernel? Or at least find it somewhere for download. Is this something I can backup using TWRP? Thanks again.
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robn30 said:
One other thing, can I back up the stock kernel? Or at least find it somewhere for download. Is this something I can backup using TWRP? Thanks again.
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Got it figured out. Backing up my boot.img via TWRP ensures my stock kernel is safe. Already installed elemental X and SuperSU and all went perfectly smooth. Thanks again for the links.
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robn30 said:
Got it figured out. Backing up my boot.img via TWRP ensures my stock kernel is safe. Already installed elemental X and SuperSU and all went perfectly smooth. Thanks again for the links.
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You are very welcome. Glad you got it figured out and all is working well. :good:
Hey guys... I know I am late to the thread but if you see this, can you inform me how can I receive updates afterwards? I currently have twrp with elementx kernel and Magisk. And there is a security patch out for the phone. How can I install that?
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Hey guys... I know I am late to the thread but if you see this, can you inform me how can I receive updates afterwards? I currently have twrp with elementx kernel and Magisk. And there is a security patch out for the phone. How can I install that?
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Generally you'd have to revert back to a clean stock ROM, no TWRP, no ElementalX, no magisk. The stock ROM also needs to be in a read only state (no modifications allowed in TWRP) and cannot be debloated (OEM partition needs to be untouched).
You could revert back to a TWRP backup made before you flashed ElementalX, provided you did not let TWRP make modifications. You'd also have to find a stock recovery (if you flashed TWRP), and restore a stock logo.bin as well if you flashed a custom logo.bin to hide the bootloader warning. Then, you should be able to apply OTA/security updates. Attempts to apply OTA updates with TWRP on your device will likely fail and leave you in a soft bootloop unless you boot via the bootloader. You could try this to break the bootloop: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The easiest and safest method I've found is to re-flash the stock ROM you have. Ensure this is the same firmware as you currently have and the latest firmware that you've flashed onto your device (don't downgrade your firmware if possible). You can re-flash without erasing your data by omitting the fastboot erase userdata command. However, I would recommend you back up your device anyway (e.g. in TWRP) and any important files, as although this procedure should not affect your data with that command omitted, any firmware flash has the possibility of affecting your device stability. That may require a factory reset/device wipe to fix. Backing up your data should be standard policy when it comes to flashing anything affecting your device's system/underlying firmware.
After re-flashing the stock ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update.
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I really appreciate people like you. [emoji3]
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What is the correct way/order to flash a kernel?

Hey. So this might sound super noobish, but I rooted my S7 Edge and downloaded Lucky Patcher etc etc. Turns out Lucky Patcher isn't exactly working on Nougat for the time being (not sure of reason) but there's a fix listed on here that involves flashing a kernel which supposedly fixes Lucky Patcher somehow. So I went ahead and flashed the kernel from TWRP and it seemed like everything was cool but when my phone rebooted it lost its root status (reliably confirmed by root checker app).
Is there some order that I am supposed to do this in? Was I supposed to flash the kernel via odin instead of TWRP or have I made an error somewhere. I used the method of flashing no-verity-opt-encrypt and then SuperSU via TWRP in order to root my device, if that makes any difference. I feel like I'm missing an easy step here and I'd appreciate it if someone could sort me out.
Cheers
Ozzymandais said:
Hey. So this might sound super noobish, but I rooted my S7 Edge and downloaded Lucky Patcher etc etc. Turns out Lucky Patcher isn't exactly working on Nougat for the time being (not sure of reason) but there's a fix listed on here that involves flashing a kernel which supposedly fixes Lucky Patcher somehow. So I went ahead and flashed the kernel from TWRP and it seemed like everything was cool but when my phone rebooted it lost its root status (reliably confirmed by root checker app).
Is there some order that I am supposed to do this in? Was I supposed to flash the kernel via odin instead of TWRP or have I made an error somewhere. I used the method of flashing no-verity-opt-encrypt and then SuperSU via TWRP in order to root my device, if that makes any difference. I feel like I'm missing an easy step here and I'd appreciate it if someone could sort me out.
Cheers
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Flashing a custom or stock kernel removes root. You should flash in twrp your root method zip file right after flashing the kernel and then reboot the system.

Any root method for C432B380?

I can't seem to find any rooting method for C432B380 software. Is there any step-by-step guide for this version? I'm currently on fully stock firmware, and I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet.
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I can't seem to find any rooting method for C432B380 software. Is there any step-by-step guide for this version? I'm currently on fully stock firmware, and I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet.
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Well, ask for unlock code - that's the first step.
I am interested in this as well, as from what I see some people seem to run into problems. Say one is on Nougat C432B380 (I'm B381) and has now got the unlock code. What then? First of all, unlocking the bootloader will result in a reset, clean C432B380 installation, right? Or will there be any need to flash something else?
EDIT: I passed the unlock part following the Guide, and ended up with a clean Nougat installation as I thought. Now what? In the OldDroid TWRP thread I see many people having trouble...
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I am interested in this as well, as from what I see some people seem to run into problems. Say one is on Nougat C432B380 (I'm B381) and has now got the unlock code. What then? First of all, unlocking the bootloader will result in a reset, clean C432B380 installation, right? Or will there be any need to flash something else?
EDIT: I passed the unlock part following the Guide, and ended up with a clean Nougat installation as I thought. Now what? In the OldDroid TWRP thread I see many people having trouble...
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I recommend staying away from any custom roms for now as all seem to have problems... you say you have an unlocked bootloader, then next step would be flashing a custom recovery, then from there... flashing supersu... try not to do much more than that and accept a fully functioning rooted phone better than getting a squichy camera or whatever from custom roms.... wait till they get stable
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I recommend staying away from any custom roms for now as all seem to have problems... you say you have an unlocked bootloader, then next step would be flashing a custom recovery, then from there... flashing supersu... try not to do much more than that and accept a fully functioning rooted phone better than getting a squichy camera or whatever from custom roms.... wait till they get stable
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I was not planning to install a custom ROM, I just want root, mainly for Viper4Android and some other things, but after reading the whole OldDroid TWRP thread I saw some people reporting problems with bootloops and whatnot, mainly after flashing SuperSU. Is flashing TWRP and then EliteKernel and rooting with phh or Magisk preferable? I just got my device back from the Huawei services, with a new board and everything and I don't want to ruin the stock installation again, so I am trying to be a bit more certain before I do anything.
Thank you for replying.
EDIT: Okay, so what I did was flash the latest OldDroid TWRP through fastboot and then I booted into recovery and flashed the latest Magisk (v13.3 I think). Now I have root and everything seems to work. So happy.
EDIT2: It seems that although it says I have root, I can't actually do anything with it, e.g. I can't uninstall system apps with Link2SD even though it says it was successful - reboot, still there - and the modules won't appear even after installing.... So, I don't know what's wrong.
Makishima said:
I was not planning to install a custom ROM, I just want root, mainly for Viper4Android and some other things, but after reading the whole OldDroid TWRP thread I saw some people reporting problems with bootloops and whatnot, mainly after flashing SuperSU. Is flashing TWRP and then EliteKernel and rooting with phh or Magisk preferable? I just got my device back from the Huawei services, with a new board and everything and I don't want to ruin the stock installation again, so I am trying to be a bit more certain before I do anything.
Thank you for replying.
EDIT: Okay, so what I did was flash the latest OldDroid TWRP through fastboot and then I booted into recovery and flashed the latest Magisk (v13.3 I think). Now I have root and everything seems to work. So happy.
EDIT2: It seems that although it says I have root, I can't actually do anything with it, e.g. I can't uninstall system apps with Link2SD even though it says it was successful - reboot, still there - and the modules won't appear even after installing.... So, I don't know what's wrong.
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stay away from magisk if you want something stable... at least my opinion. Magisk is fine, the only add it adds, is magisk hide, which seems to keep failing now for most people. I'm suffering through it now and switching to supersu... try finding the correct way to remove magisk root and go the chainfire's supersu
Moemen Shahawy said:
stay away from magisk if you want something stable... at least my opinion. Magisk is fine, the only add it adds, is magisk hide, which seems to keep failing now for most people. I'm suffering through it now and switching to supersu... try finding the correct way to remove magisk root and go the chainfire's supersu
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I restored a backup of the boot partition I had made when I first flashed TWRP which seems to have deleted Magisk, the app told me it was not installed (even though I see now a Magisk folder in data...) and then flashed Super SU, but I still can't delete system apps and having trouble with Viper*. But maybe it's not SU's fault. I don't know. I flashed v2.79, I previously had trouble with the newest versions.
Also, I had not activated the Hide function, I think.
*It is driving me crazy! Why does it not work? Supposedly I am root, I even deleted the system apps with the file managers but when I exited and reentered the folder they were there again. What is going on?... Wait... Is this normal, is it because it is system-less root?
To root any nougat fw:
1)unlock bootloader. You have to get unlock code from huawey and then in fastboot mode do: "fastboot oem unlock yourcode"
2)flash twrp recovery, i suggest you the hassan's recovery https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120756473
3)in fastboot mode do "fastboot flash recovery nameoftherecovery.img
4)reboot in recovery and flash this supersu
It is the 2.82 for emui 5 without loop mount,is perfect for p9lite https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634776377

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