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HI,
So, I'm one of the few who is definitely not happy with his new Xperia Z. Having had my go at the screen, where I understand things might get mixed with personal taste I decided to have a look at the camera.
I took some photos today with it and also with my Galaxy S2. Images on the left are from the Sony.
Full size images:
Samsung: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8p9lsf08oa1l0rq/Samsung.zip?m
Sony: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5vco70vgqh5yz/Sony.zip?m
You be the judge
Edit: One interesting thing is image size in MB. Images from the Sony are significantly smaller than the ones from the S2 even though they are 12MP vs 8MP (last image from the Sony sampes is 9MP)
Cheers,
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Can you upload a video sample too..nobody seems to help me with this..can you help uploading the video sample to dropbox i really want to check the video quality.
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Yes I'm disappoint about the camera too, washed out color, poor details.X(
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shame on sony felt it would be like this.........they produce sensors for most device manufacturers but they keep poor sensors in their devices
will never return to sony in near future
Thanks for the post. I have S2 and have been waiting to buy either this phone HTC one or s4. I can cross xz off my list. Very disappointed at sony
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I thinks the pics here are not correct.
Photoshop editing
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Definitely agree. Since the op made this topic, I've done side by side comparisons between the GS2 and Xperia Z and no way in hell is the s2 camera better than the Xperia Z. The s2 over-saturates all the colours. The XZ takes a picture of the object as it is, it doesn't try to bloat it with over-saturated colours or try to richen the picture which I like.
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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if the OP had said GS3 camera maybe it would have been worth a look, but a GS2 camera doing better then XZ...well..
Lol at this post. Check the images closely..
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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ever heard of compression levels
Tyr rsatsi
I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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Thanks man. This seems to be the truth. Sony didn't make the effort with camera or speaker. The speaker made me laugh when I tested it in the 3 store. Really wanted to like this phone but too many negatives to jump in for a two year contract !
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Nothing wrong with the speaker louder than sg3, also the cam is good on this i think people are trolling and chatting bs.
To everyone saying that the Z has a great camera can you please attach some photos (straight from the phone please)?
The samples on dropbox are completely untouched, the other images are just put side by side on Photoshop to get the screenshot.
Sony clearly under performs, specially in color reproduction (wrong wb) and less sharp images. On the second sample you can't even perceive the small cracks on the sticker while they are perfectly visible on the sgs2.
So please, attach some photos. Maybe I have a defective model, who knows. But I've looked around for camera samples and they all look the same.
I do, however, believe this is a software problem. Too much noise reduction and compression. There is no way a JPEG that has more pixels and is, on average, 30% smaller is size has more detail
May be a sony hater, sammy's spy doing some ****ty work here.... i dont think he will be seen here anymore ... he knows he is caught.... heheehhe
I can see that everyone here appears to want to believe the camera is great, but that isn't quite the truth. Check some sites like GSMArena - the camera doesn't fare that well in comparison with good 8mp shooters from last year in fact. It's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, I mean those 8mp weren't either by cellphone standards, but I think it is fair to say that it is a bit disappointing considering the increased mp count and supposed sensor advancements.
The thing that I am curious about is the file size. It seems common sense to me that if 2 pictures are in the same format then the larger file will have more detail. Is it possible that we can make the XZ compress the pictures less (maybe take pictures in a better format) and have a much better result???
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I will post some pictures tonight from my xz and my 4s.
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Hello all. I had the XZ for around a week and a bit. I returned the device as I found the camera hugely disappointing in comparison to my old XS, which is a great snapper.
Camera quality is a big draw for me so I'm excited to hear that Sony have overhauled the crippling camera algorythms for this latest software update. I'm considering getting another XZ, as the S4 really doesn't interest me and the One's camera is patently sh*te in daylight conditions.
So, help please: Could you post pictures taken by your Z with the new software? I'm really keen to see the improvement and judge for myself.
(And, if anyone who has owned both could tell me, after the update, which is the better camera, the Xz or the XS?)
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Here it is.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41689369
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41689369
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Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Timaustin2000 said:
Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
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Noise is higher when using superior auto, but with the normal mode it's pretty good I think.
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I didn't use superior auto in any of the pictures I posted, only normal mode with HDR on-off. If I used night mode/scene then the quality would be a lot better though. But I didn't thought of it at that time. You can see night mode pictures in the topic where I posted my pictures.
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uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
http://flic.kr/p/eo44Gk
Xperia S first, Z second.
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Xperia S first, Z second.
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fards said:
uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
http://flic.kr/p/eo44Gk
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What is camera f5??
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What is camera f5??
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Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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fards said:
Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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Cheers mate for the quick reply!
on auto mode size 4.2 MB
Here is some comparison of latest .253 Xperia Z camera v/s Galaxy Note II v/s iPhone 5.
My View:
1st pic - Exposure control the best in Xperia Z, iPhone 5 second, Note II is completely out, it is over expose.
2nd pic - Note II the best here, 2nd is iPhone 5, lastly Xperia Z.
3rd pic - Xperia Z still much closer to actual color - the best, Note II - not clear and not sharp, iPhone 5 - clear and sharp but too bright than actual.
In overall summary of 3 device camera:
Xperia Z - due to some issue on the superior auto mode which only generate noise now, need to pick scene mode or manual adjust for decent output. Point and shoot will be easier once Sony fix the Superior Mode. Now you still can get a decent in details just more step is required.
Note II - Probably due to too big size or whatever, it is easier get blur image, need some pressure to hold tide for decent output.
iPhone 5 - don't have much fancy setting, but iPhone 5 is the most easier point and shoot, you get 100% sharp in details image.
More camera shoot comparison of Xperia Z v/s iPhone 5. (No Note II this time as the owner not around).
My View:
1st photo - iPhone 5 win here, it capture more details than Xperia Z.
2nd photo - Both quite equal, but I like Xperia Z leaf color + iPhone 5 water pool color.
3rd photo - This one I give winner to Xperia Z, they is big sunlight there, Xperia Z can capture the light and color look alive.
4th photo - Obvious iPhone 5 great control of noise than Xperia Z here. Color wise iPhone 5 still a bit not correct as the light there is yellow spotlight rather than brown.
More Xperia Z .253 ROM - Camera test out:
For me it's simple, the superior auto mode on the Z isn't very good at all. It gets the white balance completely wrong. I think it's the auto setting for white balance, it doesn't seem to work. The camera focuses better when you select the right WB. Taking and posting auto shots of the Z does the camera a great disservice. The Xperia Zs camera right now, simply cannot function well as a point and shooter until Sony fixes the WB in auto mode.
For now, you've got to use normal camera and adjust the settings manually. It's straightforward, only four options, incandescent for low light, florescent for strong artificial lighting, daylight for clear blue skies and cloudy for well, as the name says, when the sunlight is obstructed by clouds.
As far as I'm concerned, fixing the auto WB issue as well as improving the quick focus would have done more to improve the Zs picture quality than the removal of image processing algorithms. For me, it did a lot of work cleaning up the pics. It certainly needed better and more intelligent implementation but that's all. Doesn't need to be canned.
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With New firmware. Haven't got a similar photo to compare but it appears more crisp and true to life than before the update.
I'm on an unbranded UK XZ, with global update 253 (one linked to in the flashtool tut thread)
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Again S first, Z second
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Hello XDA Community
Just installed the 14.2.A.0.290 Update (Android 4.3) and played with the camera for a little bit. I had little time to take photos but it seems like there really isn't that much improvement on Superior Auto (I did not have time to try manual since I have to run out and leave for work!).
Also, I had to make a few attempts to tap to focus to actually focus correctly which was an issue that I didn't have before. Anyway, it's really too early for me to criticize the camera since these were taken around 7:15-7:30AM and the lighting in my home office isn't that great.
I will take more pictures throughout the day both indoor and outdoors.
These photos are unaltered and are posted on flickr so you can view the original resolution. Again, taken in Superior Auto: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjP5Eneu
If anyone can post their notes and photo samples taken on manual, please post originals on Flickr and share!
Update - just added more photos when walking to my car outside!
Hey you know what... maybe SA mode has improved. Looks like the photos taken in the new update aren't as over-exposed as the previous version. I could be wrong.
Better if you make comparison, Android 4.2.2 vs 4.3... Photos like this are showing nothing...
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Still way too much processing and compression, still garbage and have to rely on manual mode.
Seems like it focuses a lot faster with 4.3
I can vouch that focusing seems to be faster. Actual picture quality doesn't seem much different, I'll run a few tests once I'm done with final exams
Is the superior auto still taking 8 MP photos? Or is it able to take 20 MP shots?
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Is the superior auto still taking 8 MP photos? Or is it able to take 20 MP shots?
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It still takes 8MP shots, but people have to realize that's a GOOD thing. If it takes 20MP shots a couple of things happen: 1. The file size will be very big, 2. There will be more noise in the picture and 3. It will have a 4:3 aspect ratio which sucks for wallpapers, etc. Superior auto uses downsampling so that the 8MP image has the quality of a 20MP image without the weird aspect ratio, smaller file size and less noise. It's good!
they need to allow higher resolution auto mode, maybe not 20 MP, but like 12 MP should still be good for wide aspect ratio I think. And it also puts it ahead of all other android phones. And seriously, they need less compressed jpeg saving. Even if it means bigger file size, the S800 can easily handle it. My old S3 with superfine picture mode generally get around 3.5 MB for 8MP and Z1 is like 2.5 MB, thats shows how that there something going on with the horrible compression ratio. Sony needs to pull their head out of their ass and accept that their imagine processing is garbage, the Z1 camera specs is suppose to destroy every other android phone, not matching them.
So no 16:9 photos in MANUAL 20 MP?
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dont think the lens is true wide angle lense, so its max out at 20MP 4:3, if they want to add 16:9 high MP shots, it probably have to drop to 18MP or lower.
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dont think the lens is true wide angle lense, so its max out at 20MP 4:3, if they want to add 16:9 high MP shots, it probably have to drop to 18MP or lower.
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which would be something that I could live with if I had 18mp wide and 13mp instead of going from 20mp to 8mp.
Here's a comparison between the Xperia Z1 with the new 14.2.A.0.290 update vs the Nexus 5 with 4.4.2 (both taken in Auto)
Breakfast taken with Xperia Z1 (New 4.3 Update)
Breakfast taken with Nexus 5 4.4.2
Please make sure to click the links to view them in full sized!
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The nexus 5's terrible. Extremely oversaturated and the oranges are completely washed out. The z1's much better.
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Dat oversaturation
Wow, the Z1 picture makes me hungry. Z1 by a mile obviously, the N5 looks washed out and is not nearly as sharp with detail. Then again, the camera on the n5 isn't bad considering it's price point. But it's no match for the Z1 or most other android phones for that matter.
I'm tempted to call that picture a tie. The detail on the food and plate is much better on the Z1, however I can barely see the wood grain on the table, whereas it's pretty clear on the N5
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I'm tempted to call that picture a tie. The detail on the food and plate is much better on the Z1, however I can barely see the wood grain on the table, whereas it's pretty clear on the N5
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I think the oversaturated color destroy quite a bit of detail from the nexus, and Z1 picture is kind of darker, which is why the wood grain is more visible from the nexus.
Our other thread became a 'device specific' review sticky, so wanted to share some lowlight pictures from Z3+, S6, & Z2 (in that order) here. All are taken in 'auto' mode. But feel free to include daylight pictures and other devices as well!
Photobucket Link
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...mproved-rankings-for-latest-iteration/Ranking
Z3+ improved over Z3 there.
Wow thanks, so without heat problem which can be resolve after an update, it it pretty close for the perfect smartphone ?
No Ram problem, Waterproof, Good Sound, Stereo speaker, LDAC for future compatibles devices, Good pictures for the back and front camera, Good Battery Life. And the camera does't go out as S6 or IPhone 6, etc...
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How the mic for recording video in a concert ?
Is it possible to record loud environment ? As HTC ONE, IPhone 6 or the last Galaxy S6. Without use in option the mic STM10
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Find day pics from Z3+ Dual.
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More shots from Xperia Z3+ & Galaxy S6 (both in auto mode) . Keep your shots coming!
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Is it possible to record loud environment ? As HTC ONE, IPhone 6 or the last Galaxy S6. Without use in option the mic STM10
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Didn't try to record video in loud environment just yet. Someone else probably can answer this ?
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This is in auto mode. Taken at 4:50 in the morning.
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asking said:
Find day pics from Z3+ Dual.
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Where did u buy yours?
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Where did u buy yours?
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Got it from Amazon.com!
I would like some full resolution samples from the front camera. In fact, I'm searching like crazy the exact resolution of the front camera all over the internet. How much does it's width and height measure? How many pixels?
It would be cool if you uploaded a screenshot with the camera app shwing the resolution settings to see the other resolutions supported.
Cambapo;61597748 It would be cool if you uploaded a screenshot with the camera app shwing the resolution settings to see the other resolutions supported.[/QUOTE said:
Front camera is 5mp. Attached are the screenshots you're looking for :good:
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Front camera is 5mp. Attached are the screenshots you're looking for :good:
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Gee thanks :'D. At last!
I'll be posting some shots tomorrow maybe comparing with my Z2 and QX30 beside the Z3+
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I'll be posting some shots tomorrow maybe comparing with my Z2 and QX30 beside the Z3+
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That would be awesome!
QX30 must be nice too.
I dont have the time for a full comparison today but will update this post with a comparison soon
Alright quick comparison with my Z2 - Z3+ and my QX30
There is of course no contest with the QX30 but I think the Z3+ produced a better pciture mostly because colours were better and light didn't affect it as much as on Z2
Full picture HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
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Its pretty much a tie throughout which should make all the nagging fanboys shut up. Both phones are excellent choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
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S6 leader in camera color reproduction, but in the video practically no difference. Very glad for Sony. At first LDAC then it, finally they began to gratify
A couple of photos taken with my Z3+
Thanks
Hi,
Just made a small video campring cameras of Samsung pride S9m Plus & Sony's best Xperia XZ Premium.
Watch video here: https://youtu.be/YaO5jlQTSHk
I am not a photographer, so all these pics are taken just like 95% of population does. All pics are taken with automatic settings.
Hope you like it. Thanks a lot
Comparing 2 phone cameras by uploading to youtube or imgur or any popular image hosting site = 0.
Please upload 100% the images. There are very few sites that allows that. One of them is https://easyzoom.com/
Here is a nice shoot taken with XZP
https://easyzoom.com/imageaccess/770c37e739ff458095425a379e9febec
Just zoom to those 2 "collective"
Mano1982 said:
Hi,
Just made a small video campring cameras of Samsung pride S9m Plus & Sony's best Xperia XZ Premium.
Watch video here: https://youtu.be/YaO5jlQTSHk
I am not a photographer, so all these pics are taken just like 95% of population does. All pics are taken with automatic settings.
Hope you like it. Thanks a lot
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I dont know dude yes the S9+ has better camera as I saw (clearly) but the XZP has pictures that show they are not taken properly I mean I dont think a 2017 flagship form sony them selves (The main camera provider for most of the phone companies out there) and it still takes as bad pictures as what I just saw, not sharp at all, not so bright, either that or the s9+ has a GOD level of camera on a smartphone just saying.
Inerent said:
Comparing 2 phone cameras by uploading to youtube or imgur or any popular image hosting site = 0.
Please upload 100% the images. There are very few sites that allows that. One of them is https://easyzoom.com/
Here is a nice shoot taken with XZP
https://easyzoom.com/imageaccess/770c37e739ff458095425a379e9febec
Just zoom to those 2 "collective"
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Thanks for your feedback. I understand your point & i have all pics used in this video, so i can send to anyone who is interested
I am trying to upload all images on the site you told. I'll let you knoe when it is finished.
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I dont know dude yes the S9+ has better camera as I saw (clearly) but the XZP has pictures that show they are not taken properly I mean I dont think a 2017 flagship form sony them selves (The main camera provider for most of the phone companies out there) and it still takes as bad pictures as what I just saw, not sharp at all, not so bright, either that or the s9+ has a GOD level of camera on a smartphone just saying.
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S9 tends to make pics bright & therefore it is "better" in low light, but if you see pics, you'll see that background in S9 photos are sometime has no details because S9 makes it so bright that all details disappear. Brighter image is not always a good image.
If you want I can make more