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With the exception of the iPad (2048*1536) and the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity (1920*1200) most tablets including the 7.7 have a screen resolution of (1200*800).
The same screen resolution (1200*800) is available on the galaxy Note with a 5.3 inch screen. So a 7 inch screen such as the 7.7 would need a resolution of (1750*1160) to equal the Note. and a 10.1 screen would need a resolution of (2286*1524).
When I decide to buy a 7 inch tablet then I would want the screen resolution to be at least as good as the Note. How long do you think it will be before the next 7.7 has improved screen resolution to match the Note?
The Note is actually 1280x720,a small difference true. Edit: shouldn't trust my friend even though he owns a note... It is 800
But the bigger difference is that the Notes screen is Pentile and the 7.7 is not. Using Pentile to get higher pixel density just feels like cheating to me. Higher pixel density is supposed to make things more crisp, but a Pentile matrix does the opposite.
And the other two you mentioned aren't amoled, so they can't really be compared either.
I cannot give you a technical answer but I own both the note and the 7.7. The resolution on the tab is just superior. Put the two next to each other in a shop and you will see the difference instantly.
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Hi Gaugerer, 7.7 actually has resolutions of 1280x800 instead of 1200x800.
Also, I agree with kishd. Put a Note and 7.7 side by side you can see clearly that the pixels in 7.7 are arranged in perfect grid, while the pixels in Note are arranged in pentile matrix, as in SIII.
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The Note is actually 1280x720,a small difference true.
But the bigger difference is that the Notes screen is Pentile and the 7.7 is not. Using Pentile to get higher pixel density just feels like cheating to me. Higher pixel density is supposed to make things more crisp, but a Pentile matrix does the opposite.
And the other two you mentioned aren't amoled, so they can't really be compared either.
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The Note is not 1280x720. It's 1280x800; just like the Tab 7.7. I have both.
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Thanks for your replies and for correcting my Note screen resolution. It seems that most of you are happy with current resolutions on Android tablets, but I wish we had iPad3 dpi for it would help with my charting and multiple windows.
Of course the more the better XD
We are hardly some fanboys who would defend its short-coming
Having said that, resolution is not everything. You would like to look at contrast and refresh rate, as well as how pixels are arranged. The overall watching experience depends on these as well.
But if you don't want to digest too much technical detail, just go to shop and try it out on your own
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Sorry if they have been answered already or obvious. Firstly, as the display has such a high pixel density, will apps have display issues unless they are optimised (as was the case with the retina display)?
Secondly, are there/ will there be games optimised for the GPU/processor as has been the case with Tegra?
Thanks.
1. Android doesn't care about specific screen resolutions. It just scales the app according to your aspect ratio and resolution. The added pixels (compared to the S3) are to display the on-screen keys. If those are hidden, you might have 48 (out of 768) lines of black bar if the app is not optimized for the screen ratio, hence no big deal.
2. Only time will tell, but why shouldn't there be optimized apps if it sells well enough (-> widespread, otherwise it's too much effort for too little benefit) and if the benefits are as big as for tegra devices?
I've seen a couple of articles talking about the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is rumored to have a QHD 2k screen ( 2560 x 1440).
Just curious what others thought. Personally, I went from the HTC Rezound (which was also a 720p screen, but smaller at 4.3", so a higher PPI) to the Moto X, but I love the Moto X screen. I honestly can't imagine having a screen that's any sharper. I almost don't want a higer-rez screen, since it would probably just be a waste of battery power.
I'm sure there are some folks who are spec-oriented, but I feel all of the trade-offs made by the Moto X (720p screen, dual core, etc) were exactly right. Great screen, great battery, responsive UI, etc.
The newer SOCs well be more efficient, it won't have issues delivering fast performance for 1080p while getting good battery if well optimized, especially if reduced to dual core like the MotoX.
The MotoX screen have RGB matrix so it would have more subpixels than a Pentile and Diamond matrix AMOLED screen of the same resolution.
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I switched from the HTC One which had the most amazing screen. The Moto X is fine by all means though, it's vibrant and clear and 720P is more than adequate. I think I'm a sucker for AMOLED as well, the blackest of blacks, I'll never go backs. I've owned a GNex and a Note 1 and I feel this AMOLED is calibrated very well. Not quite as cartoony looking as my brother's Note 3.
The screen is 4.x" diagonally. If you can see a difference between 720p and 1080p, you need to take off your magnifying glasses and move the phone away from your face. While I'm all about bigger and better specs, a 2k res screen on a phone isn't necessary.
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Yes. Samsung can make a millionp screen and I still wouldn't touch them. Lol
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The Moto X was engineered to be the best balance of hardware/screen/size/battery etc available. To that end the 720p screen is perfect. When the same balance can be achieved with a higher resolution screen then I will want it.
You will notice this is very similar to how Apple engineers a phone, no hardware is included that isn't optimized and balanced. They don't force a feature into the phone for the sake of marketing that really hurts the overall product balance.
The MotoX screen is fine but not as good as other Android like S4. I am happy with battery life and screen on time though so its a trade off.
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The MotoX screen is fine but not as good as other Android like S4. I am happy with battery life and screen on time though so its a trade off.
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My only reference is my GS3 and the screen on the X is every bit as nice.
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Yes the X screen is nicer than GS3
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I'm OK with it. But really wish it had a 1080. Want from htc one to moto x and can tell the difference
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I'm OK with it. But really wish it had a 1080. Want from htc one to moto x and can tell the difference
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Really? My son has the HTC One and we compared them, and I preferred the Moto X
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Ya know if the Moto x had a 1080 screen....battery wouldn't be as good. Personally I'll take the extra battery life. Screen looks good to me.
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I have the note 3 and honestly, the difference between the 1080p screen of the Note 3 isn't that much better than the 720p screen of the Moto X. They are both very sharp and as was stated above, I would rather the increased battery life than the sharper display. But in all fairness, I'm no pixel junkie so the 720p screen doesn't bother me at all.
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The only reason I was even remotely interested in the Moto X was because it carried an HD display-size: was AMOLED and was RGB-like matrix. The rest like usability and one-handed nature was icing on the cake. A FHD display is stupid and impractical for most common cases: the rare exception for me is reading textbooks and other small-font paragraphs: in which case, you're using the wrong tool for the task. Get a tablet or the 5.5"+ displays. The only other phone with a similar display is the Note 2 and that phone completely contradicts what makes the Moto X attractive.
However though, food for thought, anyone looking for a backup phone should consider a Note 2.
Yes, because I can't see the difference between this and a 1080p on a screen of this size (and probably neither can you).
I've never had a 1080p screen but I can't imagine anything being noticeably sharper than the Moto X's. That aside, the vast majority of the time you're not thinking about whether or not you can see traces of pixels when staring at the thing, you're just using it to actually do things and in that context brightness, color balance/saturation, and contrast are what you actually notice. All of those are great on the Moto, now every LCD screen I see looks washed-out to me!
Until batteries get a whole lot better, I don't see the point in 1080p for anything less than a 5" screen. It's like buying a 40" 4K TV... Just an opinion of course!
These resolution comparisons on screens smaller than five inches are getting ridiculous. 720 or 1080 really makes no difference on a screen this small. Unless you look at your phone with a magnifying glass or microscope the human eye can't really tell the difference. Backlight makes a bigger difference than anything. Anyway here is an article from professionals that will give a little more insight.
http://lifehacker.com/do-i-need-a-1080p-display-in-my-smartphone-1450793273
Samsung = e-penis enlarger...
I think the 720p screen is a big part of the reason the device is as snappy as it is, as well as good on battery. I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p but it's tough without a side-by-side. The resolution is perfect IMO.
Can you see the difference between this and a FHD 5.5 inch screen? Just curious.
Edit:Yet to see a display that looks better than my nexus 9.
QHD and fhd on a 5.5" screen you won't be seeing any different at all (beside performance) you can even test that your self by switching you axon 7 from QHD to FHD using ADB or Terminal if you are rooted.
P. S. Comparing my LG G4 screen to my Axon 7 , the Axon 7 is a winner by miles.
I see difference, had op3 and 1080p pentile arranged screen was painful to look at.
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You will see a difference only when you use VR device.
Not really, no. That's why I don't really consider the QHD a big selling point with a phone this size. I'm not really interested in VR, so QHD vs FHD doesn't make any difference to me.
Arguably, QHD will result in worse performance than another phone with identical specs since it requires more resources. That said, the performance hit is negligible with the specs of the Axon 7, so I'd still opt for QHD all other things being equal. It's just that FHD wouldn't be a deal-breaker.
You will see a difference if your coming from a better screen. I went from g4 to one plus 3 to moto x pure back to g4. Op3 was an awful smudge of a blurry screen , mxp has light bleed everywhere but screen is nice, g4 is really nice . axon looks really good in vids and yes yes yes 1080p is no longer good enough for me.
After using QHD smartphone screens i must admit i definitely see the difference between FHD and QHD. This is already more obvious with amoled pentile arranged panels already lackin density of pixel. So axon 7 has 5,5 inch pentile amoled display, so if be intend to consider as 2016 hardware flagship hardware the only choice is 1440p screen. Really glad ZTE didn't make any compromise in that aspekt
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my s4 with a 5" amoled 1080p screen you can easily see the pixels, on the axon 7 you cannot see the pixels.
In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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Nonsense. I have a Note 5 which I used for ages and then went to OP3 and the difference in resolution (and screen quality) is abundantly obvious. Now sold OP3 (such a terrible speaker) and moved to the Axon 7 and the difference in screen res is clear and obvious. Not always, but obvious nonetheless.
Just my opinion. Anything else without blind test will be nothing except this.
I know this from audio and whisky for example.
People always say that they can hear a difference between high priced audio equipment and higher priced equipment while sitting in their unoptimised living room. In blind tests, they cannot say to what they are listening.
Whisky or wine the same.
If people don't know what they are drinking, the test results are completely different to the results if they know it.
The talk around resolution is the same for me.
There may be a very small amount of people, which can see the difference.
But if in comments, there are hundreds of people seeing a clear difference, this in nonsense (just in my opinion).
Earlier I made a blind test by myself and some friends.
The most of them could not directly tell me the difference between 720p and 1080p on 5''.
I think on a blind test, far about 90% would not see the difference between fhd and qhd on a 15cm distance.
If you see it, congratulations.
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Has anyone successfully lowered their resolution on this phone? I tried a 'wm size 1080x1920' in Android Terminal Emulator, but the capacitative buttons stopped working after that, so I had to do a 'wm size reset'.
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“The Galaxy S8 is the most innovative and high-performance Smartphone display that we have ever lab tested, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade.”
What’s New;
The Galaxy S8 has the following major new display performance features and display functions, which we cover in detail throughout the article:
· A new larger 5.8 inch Full Screen Display that fills almost the entire front face of the Galaxy S8 from edge-to-edge. Its display is 18% larger in screen area than the Galaxy S7, with almost exactly the same width but 17% taller.
· The Home button and Navigations buttons are now incorporated within the touchscreen display.
· A new display form factor with a taller height to width Aspect Ratio of 18.5 : 9 = 2.05, which is larger than the 16 : 9 = 1.78 on the Galaxy S7 (and widescreen TVs) because the display now has the same overall shape as the entire phone.
· It is taller in Portrait mode and wider in Landscape mode. This provides extra space for Notifications and for displaying multiple windows and content.
· A new 3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440 Quad HD+ display with 570 pixels per inch.
· Support for 4 Screen Modes and 3 Standard Color Gamuts with High Absolute Color Accuracy based on our extensive lab measurements.
· A new full 100% DCI-P3 Color Gamut and Digital Cinema mode that is also used for 4K Ultra HD TVs, so the Galaxy S8 can display the latest high-end 4K video content.
· The DCI-P3 Gamut is 26 percent larger than the Rec.709 Gamut that is used in 2K Full HD TVs.
· The Galaxy S8 is the first Smartphone to be certified by the UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the same 4K High Dynamic Range content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs.
· A new Video Enhancer that provides HDR-like Expanded Dynamic Range for photos and videos that don’t have HDR coding.
· A new record high Peak Brightness with over 1,000 nits, which improves screen visibility in very high Ambient Light, and provides the high screen Brightness needed for HDR.
· A new user adjustable White Point with RGB Color Balance slider controls that can change the Color of White for the Adaptive Display screen mode.
· New front and back Dual Ambient Light Sensors for significantly improved Automatic Brightness settings.
· A new Night Mode with a Blue Light Filter that allows the user to adjust and reduce the amount of blue light from the display for better night viewing and improved sleep.
What’s Improved;
The Galaxy S8 also has the following improved display performance features and display functions, which we cover in detail throughout the article:
· Higher Screen Brightness from 5% to 19%.
· Larger Native Color Gamut with 113% DCI-P3 for better displayed Colors in High Ambient Light.
· Improved Absolute Color Accuracy.
· Improved Viewing Angle performance.
· Enhanced configurable Edge Display for the curved side screens.
· Enhanced Always On Display mode operated with IC hardware rather than App software.
· Enhanced Personalized Auto Brightness Control.
· Enhanced Image Processor for Adaptive Dynamic Brightness and Contrast Range Expansion.
· Enhanced Performance Modes and Power Saving Modes.
· Stronger curved Gorilla Glass 5 protecting the display.
Galaxy S8 OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out!
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Can't wait for the Note 8 "Great" (a.k.a. 옹호) to show up and show off its display along with other expected innovations!
Great to get a better perspective on the changes made, undoubtedly the best screen to grace a smartphone.
Very much looking forward to shipment day......?
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Even though I'm looking very much at the GS8+ because of availability, the article doesn't even compare to other competitors especially being the Xperia XZ Premium. The XZ Premium is literally built with a 4K HDR screen and it's one of the most well renowned top flagship features. For DisplayMate to not even mention it kind of discredits what it grades any way if it does not compare other flagships.
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Even though I'm looking very much at the GS8+ because of availability, the article doesn't even compare to other competitors especially being the Xperia XZ Premium. The XZ Premium is literally built with a 4K HDR screen and it's one of the most well renowned top flagship features. For DisplayMate to not even mention it kind of discredits what it grades any way if it does not compare other flagships.
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They are comparing it to their previous model, that's what most people care about as Samsung panels have been the best for quite some time. It's to show improvements over the last gen screens. You can always compare the review score between different devices yourself. The S8 is the highest rated mobile screen they have tested. Sony and LG etc are not really competitors, they don't sell enough phones. Apple is Samsung's major competition as they are both on top, by a huge margin. Most are losing money not making it. So they are doing the review for the largest number of potential consumers.
4k screens on a phone are very good for one thing, VR. Outside of that there isn't much difference at all, other than loss of performance and battery life. I would appreciate the higher res as an option myself though because I enjoy VR.
4k is wasted on smaller sized TV's even, unless you're sitting a few inches away from it. It's best for 50 inch and above screens. Over 60 is preferable if sitting a reasonable distance away.
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