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Type of display?

I've been doing some research, and not even the official spec sheet from Motorola mention what type of display the XOOM has other than "10.1” 1280x800 resolution" and "HD widescreen display".. AMOLED? IPS? Comparable to the iPad? I haven't seen any comments on the the quality of the display either.. like.. at all.. I'm very curious.
Very important feature you know, seeing as you are going to be staring at it do everything.

From a couple videos I have seen (purely speculation) it does not look to be amoled. If I had to guess I would say lcd like the ipad. From owning both a amoled (captivate) and a lcd (galaxy tab) both are nice but I prefer the amoled.
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It's a TFT LCD touchscreen, WXGA (1280 x 800), 160DPI, 720p HD with 16:9 aspect ratio

I believe I also saw that Moto is using Gorilla Glass for the screen as well.

Darn, a transflective lcd would be the killer thing.... *sigh*

Its a 16:10 display not 16:9
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So, we heard from our source that the iPad 2 would have a "super high resolution" Retina Display, we heard from AppleInsider that the iPad 2 is getting around 4X the graphics performance of the iPad, and of course there's the fact that the iPhone 4's Retina Display offered a pretty impressively painless upgrade path for developers -- an iPad 2 with a 2048 x 1536 screen is starting to sound less and less like the crazy dream of naive fanboys. But wait, there's more! A .png has been found in the iBooks 1.2 source files, dubbed Wood [email protected]. It's sized at 1536 x 800, while the old and busted Wood Tile.png in iBooks 1.1 was 768 x 400 -- that's 2X in each direction, or 4X the pixels, for anyone who's counting. Incontrovertible evidence? No, but we want to believe.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/ipad-2-retina-display-evidence-mounts-this-time-a-png-of-wood/
Compare the two if this ipad 2 rumor is true?

Bukem75 said:
Compare the two if this ipad 2 rumor is true?
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Most likely not true. The only displays sporting something close to that (WQXGA, since QXGA with 4:3 aspect ratios pretty much died off) are 27"-30" graphics professional monitors and will run you well over $1,000. I doubt they could shrink it down to tablet-sized, or at the very least make it cost-effective.

Please tell me N-4 screen as good as One X ?

I sure hope the screen technology on the new LG Nexus 4 is as good as, or close to that of the HTC One X screen ?
I have the Galaxy Nexus, and international One X, running CM10 Nightly's on both. There is absolutely no question whatsoever, that the One X has by far the superior screen technology, over Samsung's 720p pentile AMOLED screen on the Galaxy Nexus. The One X is easier to see outside in daylight, the image is more crsip / sharp on the One X, and reading texts in e-mails and news webpages is also far clearer and more detailed on the One X. Only thing the Samsung screen has on it, is the deep blacks and cartoon colors, that's it.
I know the Nexus 4 uses IPS technology, similar to that of HTC's One X. I am not even asking for the Nexus 4 to be better than the One X's screen, I will be a happy camper as long at it is at least the same quality and clear image.
Whats the verdict ?

I read somewhere that they are very close in quality. Hard to choose which is best, so I wouldn't worry!

some say yes
i think probably not, but close

They're basically even. I wager some reviews will say its better, but overall they'll be a draw.

I'd say it's better. IPS is amazing.
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Looks like you can afford it, buy it and put it side by side then let us know. I would go to a Sprint or ATT store, they have both the One X and LG Optimus G.

Screen
They should be very similar, the only difference I could see from the Specs sheet is that the Nexus 4 has a resolution of 1280x768 and 320dpi vs the One X's 1280x720 and 312 dpi.

its better afaik...
768x1280 vs 720x1280
True HD IPS plus vs Super IPS2
plus the contrast is greater

OT:
If I'm not mistaken, the SLCD2 screens in the ONE X are made by Samsung, and now they even makw SLDC3 1080p screen like showcased in the HTC J Butterfly.
I don't understand why Samsung keeps using their inferior (Screenburn, low Brighness, inaccurate colors.., in most cases higher power usage) Amoled screens
in their top Smartphones.
The Galaxy Note 2 with an 5.5" 1080p SLCD3 would have been amazing.

wurzelsepp3 said:
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If I'm not mistaken, the SLCD2 screens in the ONE X are made by Samsung, and now they even makw SLDC3 1080p screen like showcased in the HTC J Butterfly.
I don't understand why Samsung keeps using their inferior (Screenburn, low Brighness, inaccurate colors.., in most cases higher power usage) Amoled screens
in their top Smartphones.
The Galaxy Note 2 with an 5.5" 1080p SLCD3 would have been amazing.
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You are COMPLETELY mistaken - Samsung don't make the one x screens at all.
Sharp & acer make the screens available on the ONEX (with Sony making a few that seem to be U.S AT&T version only)
Sharp is the warm yellow variant
Acer is the cool blue variant
Most say sharp is the better version.
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"S-LCD Corporation (Hangul: 에스 엘시디, Japanese: エス・エルシーディー) is a South Korean manufacturer of amorphous TFT LCD panels and wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd"
This is what Wikipedia tells me.

wurzelsepp3 said:
"S-LCD Corporation (Hangul: 에스 엘시디, Japanese: エス・エルシーディー) is a South Korean manufacturer of amorphous TFT LCD panels and wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd"
This is what Wikipedia tells me.
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Panel IDs for HTC ONE X
Sharp 0x294000f
Acer 0x4940014
Sony 0x1810
Sony tends to be US AT&T only for most, international devices are either acer or sharp.
So, you can forget Samsung making these screens.
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S-LCD is a company name for Samsung, not the name of an LCD technology. It's super-LCD versus Samsung-LCD. Same acronym, different meaning.
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Really contemplating between Optimus G Pro and HTC One

Hi everyone,
I recently purchased the Optimus G Pro, and am really enjoying using it. The screen is gorgeous, with high PPI, and it's 5.5" in size, which makes my gaming experience that much greater. Having come from the Iphone 5, I am really happy with the screen, customizability etc... I also like the fact that you can install custom roms on Android devices, albeit not the G Pro.
Anyways, my dilemma is that I really want to get the HTC One, but can't justify spending an extra $2-300 to upgrade from my G Pro (In Korea, used G pro's are about $2-300 cheaper than HTC On'es).
In my opinion, the following are some pros and cons of moving to the One, can anyone add any other points?
PROS:
custom roms! (really big in my book)
higher PPI (I am all about HD)
really nice camera
awesome design, and not too big
CONS:
smaller screen
higher PPI, but lower megapixels (or ultrapixels i should say), resulting in lower HD video recording quality
phone gets hot under heavy use? Can someone provide more detail about this?
no physical home button (I like physical buttons, in my opinion they are MUCH less finicky than soft keys)
no DMB (DMB is a free TV broadcasting system in Korea, that is equipped with most cellphones)
Thanks!
John

Ok well it's up to what you really want in your smartphone. But the HD recording in the HTC is excellent, probably better than the g pro because they both capture 1080p video so same resolution but bigger pixels = more light, better night preformance, HDR video etc. make it superior.It does get hot, as it's aluminum body conducts heat but never worryingly so. Also any difference in ppi doesn't really matter as at that level it's just a placebo if you notice a big improvement. Sense vs LGs monstrosity is your call though. Also I don't know what the pros battery life is but take that into account too. Hope I helped
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I had a Pro for some time. I personally couldn't handle the damn thing. It was far to awkward to use and the LG software is hideous. The one surpasses it IMHO. Remember, it's what I felt but everyone will think differently.
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The higher PPi won't really make much of a difference. In my opinion the Optimus makes better use of the Full HD screen. On 4.7inches its hard to notice the difference between a 720 and a 1080p screen.
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S4 vs note 2

can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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both are good..

Since 4 is obviously a bigger number than 2, I would test them both yourself and then decide which you like best.

Personally I will go for note2..
There isn't any game that lags in note2
Battery-3100mah, undoubtedly above good
processor-very good(quad core)
Ram-2gb (same as s4)
Why not s4? Here's why-
Expensive than note2
Poor battery compared to note2
Phone heats up very quickly on hard gaming(it becomes so hot u can't even touch it)
Small screen(depends on u)
Not actual octa core (2Xquad core)
Rest is ur decision..I investigated a lot before choosing among both and then bought note2

S4 is more powerful in benchmark results so i guess it will be good for gaming
5 inch screen is not too small lol and also screen resolution of S4 is 1020 while its 720 in note 2
S4 is easy to hold with one hand for one hand operation i.e typing/texting
the only advantage of note is bigger battery and extra 0.5 inch screen

khankk42 said:
can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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S4 cause it has better CPU and more important a faaar better gpu(the essential part for gaming) that support also OpenGL 3.0 +better display.
Note 2 also has good points (bigger screen and better battery) but overall the s4 is better for games.
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Well the S4 has more than twice as many pixels to shuffle around so it really needs the extra power. While the S4 has a sharper display (441ppi vs 265ppi) the Note2 is slightly bigger (5,5" vs 5.0"). If you have no need for the S-Pen I'd say, go with the S4... just make sure to keep a spare battery available.

Anyway I'd suggest you to wait for the s4 advanced,that will have a massively better gpu and a 20/25% better CPU(s800) or if you can get the the s4 lte-a (same as the s4 advanced but already on the market, HK and Korea only) that it is also 32gb ver.
IMO the best thing to do is wait a month to buy the s800 devices that will come out(Xperia z1,lg g2, note 3, nexus "5", and the htc one max)
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The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.

simply wait for Note 3 :good:

The battery on the Note 2 will easily last more than a full day even if you use your phone a lot. When I had the s4 it struggled to get to the end of the day. The 1080p screen uses a lot more juice than the 720p on the Note.
S4 is more powerful for gaming though that being said the Note 2 is still a beast.
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I've said this before, and I'll say this again,. you won't notice a difference in 720p vs 1080p unless you obsess over it and has a perfect vision. I have seen nothing different comparing both hand in hand, text is slightly crisper if you are being very anal about it. What you ought to consider though is price, if you use it for gaming, and the screen real estate vs one handed use.

Yosecret said:
The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.
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But you have to consider that most games are played at 720p even on the sgs4 so the difference(even at native resolution) is huge.
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Yosecret said:
The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.
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Actually the case is not as simple as "1080p is 2.25 times more pixels than 720p"..
Let's count Sub-pixels on Note 2; there are 3 sub-pixel for each pixel thus giving us the number of 3 x 720 x 1280 = 2764800
Let's count sub-pixels on S4; there are one blue sub-pixel for every pixel and there are one red and green sub-pixel for every two! pixels giving us the number 1920 x 1080 = 2073600 blue sub-pixels, 1920 x 1080 x 2(for red+green)/2(for sub-pixel sharing)=2073600.
In total = 2073600+2073600=4147200 sub-pixels.
The expected ratio= 2.25
The real ratio= 4147200/2764800=1.5
Still, the GPU has to push every image rendering for a 1080p calculation. This is why the power is wasted. It calculates everything 2.25 times more than a 720p GPU just to be able to draw it inon a 1.5 times sharper screen.
I am not against a 720p pentile screen because it pushes the 300ppi barrier so it can be more sharper for human eye in certain conditions, however a 1080p pentile screen with a "false/fake" 441ppi is just overkill for both the battery and the GPU..

I had the same choice. But am not a big gamer.
Went for the note 2 because:
- better battery
- bigger screen
- S pen
- cheaper
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42623715
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khankk42 said:
can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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There are obvious (minor) plusses and minuses to either one in terms of gaming. I think you should take everything that's been said and determine whats most important for you to have...bigger screen, more pixels, better CPU, etc. I game but wouldn't classify myself as a big gamer...I've used both and I think the experience is comparable.

For me is better Note 2 for play.. The bigger screen is a big help and is different to see. My friend, when they see me to play, say that like a different phone that theirs HTC one or GS4.. And also, with the same game, i don't see difference about power...

Get a PS3 or an XBOX 360
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Ive gone to s4 from note 2. Not much difference gaming at the min. The screen is brighter on s4 and is sharper but I still miss note 2. Although im feeling better with size in pocket and like design better.
Would I go back to note 2? Yes easily.
Ps battery lasts all day on s4
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Do you like to use MHL to output your phone's screen to a TV? If so, I very briefly got to try my Note 2 vs an S4 a few days ago and the latter struggled in Epic Citadel (as an example). In general terms the Note 2 felt slightly smoother everywhere when using MHL too (although the S4 can power the MHL adapter by itself which was quite a cool feature, though obviously the battery nose dived pretty quickly!).

Screen quality vs FHD

Can you see the difference between this and a FHD 5.5 inch screen? Just curious.
Edit:Yet to see a display that looks better than my nexus 9.

QHD and fhd on a 5.5" screen you won't be seeing any different at all (beside performance) you can even test that your self by switching you axon 7 from QHD to FHD using ADB or Terminal if you are rooted.
P. S. Comparing my LG G4 screen to my Axon 7 , the Axon 7 is a winner by miles.

I see difference, had op3 and 1080p pentile arranged screen was painful to look at.
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You will see a difference only when you use VR device.

Not really, no. That's why I don't really consider the QHD a big selling point with a phone this size. I'm not really interested in VR, so QHD vs FHD doesn't make any difference to me.
Arguably, QHD will result in worse performance than another phone with identical specs since it requires more resources. That said, the performance hit is negligible with the specs of the Axon 7, so I'd still opt for QHD all other things being equal. It's just that FHD wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

You will see a difference if your coming from a better screen. I went from g4 to one plus 3 to moto x pure back to g4. Op3 was an awful smudge of a blurry screen , mxp has light bleed everywhere but screen is nice, g4 is really nice . axon looks really good in vids and yes yes yes 1080p is no longer good enough for me.

After using QHD smartphone screens i must admit i definitely see the difference between FHD and QHD. This is already more obvious with amoled pentile arranged panels already lackin density of pixel. So axon 7 has 5,5 inch pentile amoled display, so if be intend to consider as 2016 hardware flagship hardware the only choice is 1440p screen. Really glad ZTE didn't make any compromise in that aspekt
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my s4 with a 5" amoled 1080p screen you can easily see the pixels, on the axon 7 you cannot see the pixels.

In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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Meisterqn said:
In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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Nonsense. I have a Note 5 which I used for ages and then went to OP3 and the difference in resolution (and screen quality) is abundantly obvious. Now sold OP3 (such a terrible speaker) and moved to the Axon 7 and the difference in screen res is clear and obvious. Not always, but obvious nonetheless.

Just my opinion. Anything else without blind test will be nothing except this.
I know this from audio and whisky for example.
People always say that they can hear a difference between high priced audio equipment and higher priced equipment while sitting in their unoptimised living room. In blind tests, they cannot say to what they are listening.
Whisky or wine the same.
If people don't know what they are drinking, the test results are completely different to the results if they know it.
The talk around resolution is the same for me.
There may be a very small amount of people, which can see the difference.
But if in comments, there are hundreds of people seeing a clear difference, this in nonsense (just in my opinion).
Earlier I made a blind test by myself and some friends.
The most of them could not directly tell me the difference between 720p and 1080p on 5''.
I think on a blind test, far about 90% would not see the difference between fhd and qhd on a 15cm distance.
If you see it, congratulations.
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Has anyone successfully lowered their resolution on this phone? I tried a 'wm size 1080x1920' in Android Terminal Emulator, but the capacitative buttons stopped working after that, so I had to do a 'wm size reset'.