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https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
paperWastage said:
https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
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I believe OPPO said the screen is made by JDI
I suspect it's this one...
CARL AT OPPO FORUMS HAS CONFIRMED DISPLAY IS MADE BY JDI - SORRY FOR THE MISINFORMATION THAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET SAYING THEY WERE MADE BY LG
JDI (Japan Display Inc.) is going beyond tech demonstrators with its announcement of impending mass production of a 5-inch full-HD, 1,080 x 1,920 display with 443 PPI. In a joint venture with Hitachi, Sony, and Toshiba, JDI will produce TFT-LCD modules utilizing LTPS (Low-Temperature Poly-Silicon) and IPS (In-Plane Switching) technology to manufacture screens displaying approximately 2.3 times more information than currently possible on 720 HD (720 x 1,280) display screens. The results will include very high contrast, wide viewing angles, and high luminance with minimal color-shift.
Sharp Corporation has begun production of its own 5-inch full-HD (1,080 x 1,920 pixels) LCD displays for smartphones employing CG-Silicon (Continuous-Grain Silicon) technology along with a new pixel design. CG-Silicon allows for fewer layers, and increases manufacturing yield. Another Sharp advantage is their 5-inch screens can operate at lower power consumption levels as compared to other 5-inch displays. At 443 PPI the Sharp panels provide as many pixels on a 5-inch screen as found on full-HD TV displays, as also does the JDI panel. Manufacturing has already started in Japan, and Sharp will ramp up volume in October 2012. It should be noted that Sharp makes the 5-inch screen for Apple’s most recent iPhone 5, with only 326 PPI.
LG will provide display screens for the Chinese company Oppo, which announced the Oppo Find 5 smartphone. The announcement indicated 440 PPI, but that is easily accounted for as a rounding error in PPI calculators, and should be equivalent to the Sharp and JDI displays; all three of which offer a PPI count that provides a 35% pixel density improvement over Apple’s so-called “retina display”. The new LG display screens will include AH-IPS(Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching) to provide wide viewing angles, excellent accuracy in expression of color palettes, and rapid response to touch inputs.
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However, a more recent press release from JDI regarding display prototypes for vehicles suggests that a WhiteMagic display could be inbound. It talks of a 5-inch 1080p display with 438 PPI and “low power consumption that is approximately 50% less by utilizing an RGBW pixel structure”. This display also includes an “integrated touch function (without cover glass)”, probably similar to Sony’s sensor-on-lens touch screen technology.
As a reminder, a WhiteMagic display has the red, green blue and white (RGBW) sub pixels aligned horizontally. The additional white sub-pixel significantly increases display brightness compared to normal LCD and OLED screens. The technology can be used to double the brightness or to save 50% of the backlight power, as suggested by the JDI press release. There’s no guarantee WhiteMagic will appear in this 5-inch 1080p display, but it looks like the technology is there if Sony wants to use it.
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The Chinese company Oppo, released the Oppo Finder earlier this year, claiming the title of “world’s thinnest smartphone” with a thickness of only 6.65mm at its thinnest point, and 7.1mm at its thickest part. The iPhone 5 measures 7.6mm thick.
Oppo-Ration Apple Slicer
Oppo now says it will bring the Oppo Find 5 to consumers with a 5-inch, 1,080p, 441 PPI display, at a resolution of 1,920 x 1,080, in that same 6.65mm form-factor. It seems quite likely the Oppo Find 5 display will be made by LG. Apple should be wincing right about now, and not only because of the display. The other Oppo Find 5 specifications could slice Apple to the core.
Full specifications, pricing, and a release date have not been announced.
Specification Oppo-Rations
5-Inch, 441 PPI, 1,920 x 1,080 Resolution, AH-IPS Display Screen
6.65 Millimeters Thick
Qualcomm Quad-Core Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
2,500 mAh Non-Removable Battery
2 GB of RAM
12 MP Rear Camera
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http://www.j-display.com/english/index.html
Japan Display Inc an LG created most displays for Iphone 5. They have also created displays for other phones in the past along with many other phones.
If you look iPhone 5 Scratch Test With Knife and Keys on Video you surely think that new iPhone have no shortages. But it is not true. There is an iPhone 5 shortage as a result of in-cell display. Let’s check out what we found. According to many news iPhone 5 has been outstripping supply because of a shortage of the in-cell display units utilized in the new phone.
The new iPhone utilizes in-cell screen technologies, which rolls with each other the display and touch-sensitive elements of the screen in order to make it thinner. These displays, though, tend to be more labor-intensive to make. Which means the problem.
At first Apple was using LG Display Co. and Japan Display Inc. to create the new four-inch screens. To make sure manufacturing remained high, though, Apple drafted in the help of Sharp to produce more displays.
Based on reliable resources, however, Sharp can not meet demand. Reports claim that the company struggled to fix problems in the screens-the knock-on result being delayed deliveries of IPhone's and less stock to offer to consumers.
Of course, this really is all based on analyst reports and not cold, hard numbers from Apple itself-so it is best taken with a pinch of salt. And, uh, a very good reason for selling out of phones may be the fact that they sold 5 million of the things, instead of, you know, having minor provider issues.
In any case, no doubt iPhone 5 shortage with in-cell display it’s a issue Apple would like to fix soon. For the time being, you can at the least now reserve an iPhone 5 for in-store pick-up, so at least you will not have to wait in line.
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News Release
October 4, 2012
Japan Display to Start Mass Production of Full-HD LCD Modules for Smartphones
－ 5.0-inch module with 1080x1920 pixels 443ppi for high information content －
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Tokyo, October 4, 2012. Japan Display Inc. (JDI), a leader of LCD technologies, announced today that it will start mass-production shipment of 5.0-inch full-HD (1080x1920 pixels) TFT-LCD modules for smartphone applications this October.
Today, mobile information devices, such as smartphones, are increasingly more sophisticated and functional. As a result, compact-size displays are required which are able to show a large amount of information.
JDI is developing LCD modules to meet these growing requirements, based on its advanced core technologies, such as low-temperature poly-silicon (LTPS) for high resolution, in-plane switching (IPS) for wide viewing angle performance, and thinner backlight design for compact size, among others.
The features and benefits of JDI's latest module include:
1) High resolution to display a large amount of information
The 5.0-inch full-HD, 443 ppi* module is able to display approximately 2.3 times more information as compared to 720HD (720x1280 pixels).
2) Wide viewing angle and high contrast for fine and beautiful pictures
IPS technology enables wide viewing angle performance and high contrast, with minimal color shift-and along with the module’s high luminance (500cd/m2)-contributes to finer and more beautiful pictures.
3) Large display area, slim, and compact-size LCD module
The thinner LCD module (1.4mm), combined with its narrow frame (1.2mm), allows for compact smartphone design.
This new product is well-suited for high-end mobile smartphones designed to display a large amount of information. With this new product introduction JDI continues to demonstrate its leadership in the global small-size, full-HD resolution LCD module market.
JDI will demonstrate this product in booth #2701 at FPD International 2012, October 31 through November 2, 2012, in Yokohama, Japan.
*ppi is an abbreviation for pixels per inch
Module Specifications
Display mode Transmissive IPS
NTSC ratio 71％
Contrast ratio 1000:1（typical）
Viewing angle > 160 degrees, top/bottom and left/right（with CR>100:1）
Screen size 5.0-inch (12.6cm) diagonal
Number of pixels 1080xRGB ｘ 1920 (full-HD)
Resolution 443ppi
Luminance 500cd/m2 (typical)
Dimensions 64.3㎜ (width) x 118.8㎜ (height) x 1.4㎜ (thickness)
Information in the press releases, including product prices and specifications, content of services and contact information, is current on the date of the press announcement,but is subject to change without prior notice.
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http://micgadget.com/31865/oppo-find-5-now-official-5-inch-1080p-441ppi-display-quad-core-and-super-slow-motion-filming-video/
Oppo Find 5 Now Official: 5-inch 1080p 441ppi Display, Quad Core and Super Slow Motion Filming (Video)
[UPDATE] OPPO unveiled the Oppo Find 5, the company latest entry in the high-end smartphone territory. The Find 5 most striking feature is the 1080p LCD display that boasts an amazing 441ppi pixel density. That’s the same resolution and pixel density as the display of the HTC Droid DNA/Butterfly. Similar to the Xiaomi Mi2 launch this summer, OPPO’s launch was held in the 798 arts district in Beijing. The event, which took place at a art center, included more than 500 attendees. We attended the launch event, and got up a close look with the new full HD phablet device. It was a nobby launch event that was quite impressive, the Chinese handset maker seem to has an ambitions to become a recognized player in the international market…
OPPO newest flagship the Find 5 packs some of the best specifications, starting with a powerful Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core chip clocked at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM. The 5-inch touch screen display has a 1920 x 1080 resolution which is an AH-IPS LCD panel manufactured by LG. The rear shooter of the Find 5 is fitted with a 13MP sensor, while the front camera packs 1.9MP. The stacked CMOS sensor delivers F/2.2 aperture, with 4-layer coating lens and blue glass filters. It can record videos and snap photos in HDR mode at the same time. Find 5 is the first smartphone in the world with this ability generate by hardware. It only comes with 16GB storage with no option to expand via an microSD card. The battery is a 2500mAh unit, which is adequate, but seem less for a 5-inch device.
Media capabilities on OPPO Find 5 are enhanced by the Dolby 3D surround and Dirac HD, a high-end audio system that has never been integrated on a mobile device before. Only companies such as Rolls Royce, Bentley, BMW, offer this type of technology. And best of all, the Find 5’s stock earbuds are fine-tuned for Dirac audio system. The new phone also comes with NFC, gently touching two phones will pair them in less than a tenth of a second, 50 times faster than Bluetooth pairing. The SmartTags, a small label with built-in-chip, will also add simplicity and convenience for user to activate any application with preset. Find 5 also supports Wi-Fi Display and DLNA, two functionality that allow projecting screen contents onto HDTV wirelessly.
OPPO Find 5 is compatible with the following networks: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/HSPA+42 (850, 1700, 1900, 2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz). Too bad there is no 4G LTE. It will launch in early 2013 across select markets. Judging from the existence of the US site, we can speculate that the OPPO Find 5 will sell for $499 ( contract free, 16GB version) in the United States. In China, the device is slated to go for 2,998 yuan (about $480). We’ll keep you posted as soon as we find out more.
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I think that oppo have now the JDI display (best quality for good reviews and market development) In future is possible to switch for LG displays. All phone brands (Lg ,HTC ,Samsung) after 3-6 months, the production quality and price drops for a expensive phone.... only the profit remains the same
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/oppo-find-5-reviews.555/page-8#post-19785
reading between the lines, probably JDI
I Stand Corrected
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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Never heard of jdi either. They are most definitely going interesting things
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drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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if you find any datasheet on the display, care to share it? (need to find a datasheet for the display and the Orise display controller, to play with gamma and other values in the kernel)
I got some time to spare soon, as soon as I finish this test wont take long 70 min timer. I will dive in.
XDA Reviews the Honor 8: A RecapFor users coming here looking to see other user's reviews on the Honor 8, I want to make sure you get the chance to see the official XDA review of the device. It's a very long and in-depth review, so I'll post some of the highlights here as a recap.
Design
The Honor 8 marks an important shift for Honor in the realm of build quality, in particular because of the materials transition from the tried-and-true aluminum to a full glass coating. How does the Honor 8’s premium build hold up against the rest and at its price?
Honor has tackled the challenge of producing a high-quality glass back design that feels both solid and comfortable, on a budget. The back of the Honor 8 has a slippery and clear glass coating, and it’d cover the entire surface if it wasn’t for the very subtle non-glass trim that serves as the interface between the metal edge and the actual glass pane. t’s also worth pointing out that there is no camera protrusion making this device extremely flat, and able to slide across tables at the slightest of angles.
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Software — User Interface
EMUI is not the kind of UI you’ll easily grow to love if you are a fan of Stock Android, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t some things to love about its layouts, design elements and theming capabilities.
The launcher has big and vibrant icons in its 4-column default, but luckily you can modify its grid size. Huawei’s iconography is full of rounded squares with muted non-primary colors, and the wallpapers that come with the phone resemble those of other flagships.
The recents menu is laid out differently than on stock, with horizontal cards and previews and with a “clear all” trashcan at the bottom, as well as a free RAM counter. Scrolling is smooth, but not necessarily fluid by design as it tends to make the center-most tab sticky.
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Software — Features & UX
Let’s begin with my favorite feature: smart key. You might recall that in my Honor 5X review I noted that one of my favorite additions to the fingerprint scanner was the ability to use it for extra functions, like tapping to go back or swiping down for the notification panel. You can still swipe down to access the panel, and also press it to take pictures, answer calls and stop alarms, but the fingerprint scanner is an actual button now, allowing for quick access to apps or functions with the screen on or off.
At the toggles, you’ll find a few useful options including screen recording, ultra-battery saving (you are probably familiar with the concept by now), a “floating dock” that acts like an impromptu PIE menu (back, home, recents, screen off and RAM clearance keys), and an “eye-protection” mode which filters blue light to give you a sort of “night mode” as seen on other popular devices.
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Performance
This phone comes with a rather impressive processing package for just $400. It is true, however, that at that bracket you begin to see devices sporting Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 820. But the Honor 8’s processing solution is different than that of most competing chipsets, as it’s comprised of HiSilicon’s Kirin 950, the same chipset we saw in the Huawei Mate 8. Huawei released this chipset in late 2015, with just enough room to claim the performance crown for CPU prowess. The Kirin 950 packs an octa-core big.LITTLE configuration with four efficiency-focused A53 cores clocked at 1.8GHz, and four A72 performance-oriented cores.
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RAM & Storage
The 4GB of LPDDR4 RAM that this review unit ships with was more than apt at the kind of tasks that I threw at it. The phone can easily store around 12 to 14 applications in memory, and also multiple heavy 3D games, without killing background processes. Even then, cached reloads are rather fast thanks to the SoC and storage solution. I have experienced some quirks with memory management where applications had to reload from cache despite no interaction with power-saving prompts or features, and it’s worth noting that by default the system kills non-whitelisted background applications upon locking the screen, so be sure to tweak those settings.
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Camera
Let’s start with the camera UI and UX. The Honor 8’s EMUI features a very traditional approach with a shutter button on the right side as well as a gallery shortcut (and the gallery has a camera shortcut by sliding the image album down) and a “switch to video” button. To the left you will find extra options depending on your shooting mode, such as switch to the other camera, filters, flash, or the shallow depth of field mode (more on that later). There are also 3 “tabs” you can access by swiping around the viewfinder: one for shooting modes (including pro photo and pro video, beauty mode and video, panorama, HDR, Good Food, timelapse, light painting and nightshot). The other panel allows you to change resolution, enable a grid, configure a timer, enable smile capture and object tracking, and also default image adjustment like brightness, saturation and contrast (for auto-mode).
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Display
The Honor 8 packs an unassuming 5.2 inch 1080p LTPS LCD display, LCD being common solution in this price bracket. The 1080p resolution does just fine on such a small screen size (by today’s standards), and with the display being LCD and not an AMOLED pentile panel, you ultimately get a higher effective pixel density due to the equal number of red, blue and green pixels (instead of an uneven matrix of subpixels). While many of us have grown increasingly used to AMOLED displays on flagships, this screen solution is not inadequate for both the price and the screen size; opting for 1440p AMOLED would have increased costs for a small increase in effective clarity, and a 1080p AMOLED panel would have resulted in lower pixel density.
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The full review goes into much more detail on all of these topics and also has a ton of awesome photo samples taken with the Honor 8. Hopefully these highlights from the article will help you out.
See the full review here.
Hey everyone
There is a new phone called Razer which claims 120hz refresh rate on its LCD display released a month ago now. This feels like an exciting new phone to get as a VR fan. I am assuming being LCD, it has an RGB type matrix with 3 sub-pixels making this the most superior display for reducing SDE (Side Door Effect) than any other display including Rift/Vive/PSVR apart from Xperia Z5 and XZ Premium phones (4k RGB displays) and some LG phones with 1440p LCD displays.
So potentially, google cardboard VR games and apps could be more immersive than on any other phone because of the combination of very high refresh rate for smooth motion and reducing motion blur/sickness and high sub-pixel density for reducing SDE. That excites me. I already enjoy google VR apps with hardly any SDE on my Sony Xperia Z5 Premium 4k RGb display phone but there is noticeable motion blur when turning my head quickly. I also have a PSVR that 1080p RGB OLED display with higher sub pixel density than GearVR/Rift/Vive, but what makes PSVR smash mobile VR out of the park is the 120hz refresh rate on its display. I play all sorts of fast action games in it and never suffer motion sickness...its incredible.
So for Razer phone to have 120hz refresh rate is bloody exciting and could take us one step closer to that of the PSVR 120hz or Vive/Occulus 90hz experiences. Of course what would still be lacking is room space position tracking unless you use the Trinus VR with PC and cameras to play Steam VR games which is a tricky thing to fully achieve.
But reality check. Apps and games have to be specifically developed to support 120hz. Most games and apps today are coded to max at 60fps. But that's still cool. Even if apps lock at 60hz, which most OLED phones and Samsung phones with Gear VR achieves, the Razor will still have a better motion and display experience due to the higher sub-pixel density than OLED phones. At least in theory.
So, if any of you have bought the Razer, do please let us know your thoughts and if you have have tested VR games and apps on it. Do current VR games/apps look and play better with this phone? Or is it a crushing disappointment for VR?
Also interesting in hearing about the experience from anybody that has bought one.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei Mate 30 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei Mate 30 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'd like to love it
But I don't know if its worth buying yet? I really would like gmail
I've had my M30P imported from China for just under a week now at the time of writing this. Before that, I was using a P30P for 6 months.
My overall experience and feelings for it is very positive. It's my most favorite Huawei smartphone to date and I don't have too many complaints about it so I'll just be honest and upfront about everything I've personally liked and disliked.
There wasn't anything wrong with my P30P from before and I loved most things about the phone (which you'll see me reference it a lot in some of the points below) but the Chinese prices on the M30P and to be first in line for the latest updates for once just tempted me too much - I paid 5800¥ (which is about $820/€736/£634. I'll be basing most of my experiences and comparisons on the P30P as a result since it's the only other, closest rival phone I can match it against and I suspect a lot of people will want to know how they both stack up anyway
Display and Build Quality:
+ Display appears slightly brighter than the P30P with very punchy colours, contrast, deep blacks and decent sunlight readability. The panel isn't quite up there with the Note 10+ but it's still really good and you won't be disappointed.
+ No bezels or even much of a chin as the gorgeous looking waterfall display that spills on to the edges.
+ IP68 rated + equipped with Gorilla Glass 6 whereas the P30P didn't have any form of Gorilla Glass Protection, and the M20P had v5 (still worth putting a screen protector on though!)
+ I am a big fan of the (innovative?) virtual volume buttons that trigger when you double tap on the top left or right edges of the display
+ Supports *AOD* after a recent software update!
- Has a notch even though it's smaller than most other notches, including the iPhone 11, Pixel 4 (if you can count its giant forehead), as well as last year's M20P
- Doesn't have 90hz refresh rate despite some of the strong rumors and leaks that had been circulating around beforehand
Camera:
+ Consistently handles noise, artifacts and retains small details better than P30P in both daylight and night shots - this is due to the newer, improved ISP on a hardware level and camera tweaks on a software level.
+ Industry-leading best in class wide angle lens. It's huge f/1.8 aperture and the sensor size of 1/1.54" that really shows its prowess in both day time and night shots that no other competitor can currently go against at the moment. Let's not forget it defaults to pixel binning since it's actually outputting 10mp shots and the new ISP further enhances it (namely in dealing with noise). All in all, you get more preserved details in both the shadows and highlights, better colour balance, nicer dynamic range and the hardware front here really delivers in all aspects of the shooting conditions. I compared it with an iPhone 11 and a Note 10+ at my local Samsung and Apple stores respectively and the M30P's wide angle is just miles ahead better and I can't see other brands having a superior wide angle lens anytime soon.
+ Sometimes, in ideal lighting and certain scenarios, I will get even BETTER daytime shots on the wide angle than the main sensor as it's not RYYB and the fact that it's got an even bigger sensor size than that actually gives it some advantages to the main lens and compared to generally most other wide angle lens from other phones.
+ Video recording seem better stabilized, with less choppiness when panning around the scene and it can finally record 4k in 60FPS too due to the newer ISP. Wide angle video capture is miles better than the P30P's one due to the significantly superior hardware, especially in low light.
+ I love its quad rear camera design and its shiny ring more than similar rivals' implementations by the iPhone 11, Pixel 4 and even the M20P - just feel like saying it as I've grown to like it now!
+ ToF sensor feels slightly better than the one found in the P30P - my portrait mode shots and bokeh effects tend to be more precise with less clipping and better edge detection around subjects
+ 7680FPS video recording isn't just a stunt as it does work and is fun to use when you want to show off something cool and playful with it. No other smartphone in the industry comes close.
+ Night Mode shots with both the primary and wide angle lens has been improved further against the P30P which was already the king of low light - it captures the smaller details better (mainly only noticed when you zoom or crop in), has less noise and better colour balance in almost every shot I took in low light.
- Occasionally renders warm, red tinges to my photos when shooting with the primary main sensor, but rarely ever happens in all circumstances when using the wide angle sensor (most likely because it's not RYYB). Hopefully resolved with future software updates.
- No periscope 5x optical zoom and 50x digital zoom capability. You now get 3x optical and 3x digital instead which isn't entirely a dealbreaker as most people won't be using this all the time but I feel it needs to be said anyway.
- I've seen some minor lens flare that I did not ever seem to get on the P30P, or on any other phone I've owned to date.
- Front selfie camera has improved a bit from the P30P but it still applies a lot of digital make-up to my face and smooths out my skin a bit too much for my liking, and that's even with the beauty level set to the lowest in the UI. It's once again still not on the same league as the iPhone 11 or Note 10's front cameras.
- No super macro-mode for close up shots of up to 2.5cm from the subject which used to be found on the P30P - I understand this is due to the new sensors that no longer allow it
- Still lacks an automatic HDR toggle - you need to enable it manually each time under "More" in the camera settings
Battery life and Charging
+ Lasts really long due to the combination of the Kirin 990 on the newest 7nm+ EUV node, a massive 4500mAh battery which Huawei claim also uses "AI" to understand your usage patterns and potentially even being based on Android 10's behind-the-scenes battery optimizations/algorithms (I got more SOT than my P30P)
+ For me, the lack of GMS/Google Play Services definitely improved my battery life too
+ 40w supercharge which tops up the battery incredibly quick without overheating my phone (about 0-70% in 30mins just like before). I've also got a 40w Huawei SuperCharge power bank which is compatible with the M30P.
+ 27w wireless charging - I don't have a wireless charger to test but this makes it vastly superior to most wired charging speeds from other brands.
- "3x faster reverse wireless charging" is still largely a gimmick as it's not that much of an improvement from the previous gen (from 2.5W to 7.5w now) in every day practical use but I can see how it can be useful in emergency situations where even a few % can be useful for a friend if he/she doesn't have a portable charger
Performance and Software
+ Android 10 + UFS 3.0 (being used for the first time by Huawei) + 8GB of RAM = an extremely fluid, snappy and responsive system all-round with no lag!
+ I can still use most of my essential daily apps without Google Play Services by sideloading them, including Brave (which I prefer over Chrome anyway), Google Maps, Google Keyboard, Gmail (via the native Huawei mail handler), Instagram and WhatsApp
+ GPS accuracy in apps such as Google Maps, Cellular strength and mobile data speeds equally as fast and reliable as my P30P or if not slightly better from what I've noticed
+ Kirin 990 chipset performs well despite not using ARM's newest Cortex A77 cores, and shines in the battery life department and in games due to the optimizations to both the CPU +GPU
+ First in line to get the latest software updates if you purchase the Chinese LIO-AL00 model - I've already had 4 in less than a week and most were at least 1GB in size so they weren't all minor patches
- No Google Play Services out of the box, so you'll need to somehow restore your phone using HiSuite with a known working backup that has it or find alternative apps that don't rely on it
- My CN LIO-AL00 had a lot of bloatware that I couldn't easily uninstall and disable under the Settings, so I had to remove a lot of them via adb on my Desktop which took up a lot of time
- I still would've preferred the Kirin 990 to feature the newest A77 cores, as the upcoming Snapdragon 865 is guaranteed to have them (nonetheless the optimized A76s for power efficiency easily match and beat the 855+ in most areas
Audio quality
+ Phone call and speaker sound quality (especially at mid to higher volumes) feels a fair bit louder, fuller, clearer, richer and better balanced than the P30P
+ Audio capture when recording videos seems to be improved by a minor amount over the P30P
- Still has a single downwards firing speaker. Where's the dual stereo nowadays?
Other final thoughts:
+ Under display fingerprint sensor is incredibly fast and responsive - definitely ahead of the one in the P30P
+ Excellent build quality which is to be expected from another Huawei flagship - the whole device feels very premium and screams quality in the hands
+ Battery life is even better than the P30P which was already the Android battery champ!
+ Great price if you can somehow import it over from China - I paid 5800¥ for the 128GB model to a friend who brought it to me (approximately $820/€736/£634)
I hope people will find my well-balanced comparison helpful between the M30P and my P30P!
thanks you for your writing. i remember huawei advirtised is 2.5 cm close shoting super macro. which is very dissappointing for me. i like macro shots. And some reviewers in my country told that night photos are very bright and it makes the sceen very unrealist. Hope they fix this.
ssregitoss said:
thanks you for your writing. i remember huawei advirtised is 2.5 cm close shoting super macro. which is very dissappointing for me. i like macro shots. And some reviewers in my country told that night photos are very bright and it makes the sceen very unrealist. Hope they fix this.
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Night mode are just amazing and not much unrealistic for me
But yeah, super macro mode is msising and it's not a good move from huawei...
Does the M30P have an improved haptic vibration motor?
This is something that Samsung improved with the Note 10 series and it definitely makes a difference to the user experience.
Excellent screen, sound, battery and performance
I never was pleased this much with any phone everything is superb specially the camera! has anyone found a way to make google assistance s default or get rid of default home launcher ?
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Byte_76 said:
Does the M30P have an improved haptic vibration motor?
This is something that Samsung improved with the Note 10 series and it definitely makes a difference to the user experience.
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Coming from the following phones I've owned in the past years, I've noticed a slight improvement over all of them. It's definitely not a weak motor.
P30 Pro
Mate 20 Pro
Pixel 2 XL
Galaxy S8
Galaxy S6
Any chance you could give me a list of the bloat you removed?? don't want to take the wrong thing out with ADB and brick it.. Only thing I miss is having to keep pressing Google to voice activate, no big issue, and Google pay, now I have to carry a bank card everywhere
Those two little niggles aside its superb!
Cheers mate!
Great article btw!!
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I've had my M30P imported from China for just under a week now at the time of writing this. Before that, I was using a P30P for 6 months.
My overall experience and feelings for it is very positive. It's my most favorite Huawei smartphone to date and I don't have too many complaints about it so I'll just be honest and upfront about everything I've personally liked and disliked.
There wasn't anything wrong with my P30P from before and I loved most things about the phone (which you'll see me reference it a lot in some of the points below) but the Chinese prices on the M30P and to be first in line for the latest updates for once just tempted me too much - I paid 5800¥ (which is about $820/€736/£634. I'll be basing most of my experiences and comparisons on the P30P as a result since it's the only other, closest rival phone I can match it against and I suspect a lot of people will want to know how they both stack up anyway
Display and Build Quality:
+ Display appears slightly brighter than the P30P with very punchy colours, contrast, deep blacks and decent sunlight readability. The panel isn't quite up there with the Note 10+ but it's still really good and you won't be disappointed.
+ No bezels or even much of a chin as the gorgeous looking waterfall display that spills on to the edges.
+ IP68 rated + equipped with Gorilla Glass 6 whereas the P30P didn't have any form of Gorilla Glass Protection, and the M20P had v5 (still worth putting a screen protector on though!)
+ I am a big fan of the (innovative?) virtual volume buttons that trigger when you double tap on the top left or right edges of the display
+ Supports *AOD* after a recent software update!
- Has a notch even though it's smaller than most other notches, including the iPhone 11, Pixel 4 (if you can count its giant forehead), as well as last year's M20P
- Doesn't have 90hz refresh rate despite some of the strong rumors and leaks that had been circulating around beforehand
Camera:
+ Consistently handles noise, artifacts and retains small details better than P30P in both daylight and night shots - this is due to the newer, improved ISP on a hardware level and camera tweaks on a software level.
+ Industry-leading best in class wide angle lens. It's huge f/1.8 aperture and the sensor size of 1/1.54" that really shows its prowess in both day time and night shots that no other competitor can currently go against at the moment. Let's not forget it defaults to pixel binning since it's actually outputting 10mp shots and the new ISP further enhances it (namely in dealing with noise). All in all, you get more preserved details in both the shadows and highlights, better colour balance, nicer dynamic range and the hardware front here really delivers in all aspects of the shooting conditions. I compared it with an iPhone 11 and a Note 10+ at my local Samsung and Apple stores respectively and the M30P's wide angle is just miles ahead better and I can't see other brands having a superior wide angle lens anytime soon.
+ Sometimes, in ideal lighting and certain scenarios, I will get even BETTER daytime shots on the wide angle than the main sensor as it's not RYYB and the fact that it's got an even bigger sensor size than that actually gives it some advantages to the main lens and compared to generally most other wide angle lens from other phones.
+ Video recording seem better stabilized, with less choppiness when panning around the scene and it can finally record 4k in 60FPS too due to the newer ISP. Wide angle video capture is miles better than the P30P's one due to the significantly superior hardware, especially in low light.
+ I love its quad rear camera design and its shiny ring more than similar rivals' implementations by the iPhone 11, Pixel 4 and even the M20P - just feel like saying it as I've grown to like it now!
+ ToF sensor feels slightly better than the one found in the P30P - my portrait mode shots and bokeh effects tend to be more precise with less clipping and better edge detection around subjects
+ 7680FPS video recording isn't just a stunt as it does work and is fun to use when you want to show off something cool and playful with it. No other smartphone in the industry comes close.
+ Night Mode shots with both the primary and wide angle lens has been improved further against the P30P which was already the king of low light - it captures the smaller details better (mainly only noticed when you zoom or crop in), has less noise and better colour balance in almost every shot I took in low light.
- Occasionally renders warm, red tinges to my photos when shooting with the primary main sensor, but rarely ever happens in all circumstances when using the wide angle sensor (most likely because it's not RYYB). Hopefully resolved with future software updates.
- No periscope 5x optical zoom and 50x digital zoom capability. You now get 3x optical and 3x digital instead which isn't entirely a dealbreaker as most people won't be using this all the time but I feel it needs to be said anyway.
- I've seen some minor lens flare that I did not ever seem to get on the P30P, or on any other phone I've owned to date.
- Front selfie camera has improved a bit from the P30P but it still applies a lot of digital make-up to my face and smooths out my skin a bit too much for my liking, and that's even with the beauty level set to the lowest in the UI. It's once again still not on the same league as the iPhone 11 or Note 10's front cameras.
- No super macro-mode for close up shots of up to 2.5cm from the subject which used to be found on the P30P - I understand this is due to the new sensors that no longer allow it
- Still lacks an automatic HDR toggle - you need to enable it manually each time under "More" in the camera settings
Battery life and Charging
+ Lasts really long due to the combination of the Kirin 990 on the newest 7nm+ EUV node, a massive 4500mAh battery which Huawei claim also uses "AI" to understand your usage patterns and potentially even being based on Android 10's behind-the-scenes battery optimizations/algorithms (I got more SOT than my P30P)
+ For me, the lack of GMS/Google Play Services definitely improved my battery life too
+ 40w supercharge which tops up the battery incredibly quick without overheating my phone (about 0-70% in 30mins just like before). I've also got a 40w Huawei SuperCharge power bank which is compatible with the M30P.
+ 27w wireless charging - I don't have a wireless charger to test but this makes it vastly superior to most wired charging speeds from other brands.
- "3x faster reverse wireless charging" is still largely a gimmick as it's not that much of an improvement from the previous gen (from 2.5W to 7.5w now) in every day practical use but I can see how it can be useful in emergency situations where even a few % can be useful for a friend if he/she doesn't have a portable charger
Performance and Software
+ Android 10 + UFS 3.0 (being used for the first time by Huawei) + 8GB of RAM = an extremely fluid, snappy and responsive system all-round with no lag!
+ I can still use most of my essential daily apps without Google Play Services by sideloading them, including Brave (which I prefer over Chrome anyway), Google Maps, Google Keyboard, Gmail (via the native Huawei mail handler), Instagram and WhatsApp
+ GPS accuracy in apps such as Google Maps, Cellular strength and mobile data speeds equally as fast and reliable as my P30P or if not slightly better from what I've noticed
+ Kirin 990 chipset performs well despite not using ARM's newest Cortex A77 cores, and shines in the battery life department and in games due to the optimizations to both the CPU +GPU
+ First in line to get the latest software updates if you purchase the Chinese LIO-AL00 model - I've already had 4 in less than a week and most were at least 1GB in size so they weren't all minor patches
- No Google Play Services out of the box, so you'll need to somehow restore your phone using HiSuite with a known working backup that has it or find alternative apps that don't rely on it
- My CN LIO-AL00 had a lot of bloatware that I couldn't easily uninstall and disable under the Settings, so I had to remove a lot of them via adb on my Desktop which took up a lot of time
- I still would've preferred the Kirin 990 to feature the newest A77 cores, as the upcoming Snapdragon 865 is guaranteed to have them (nonetheless the optimized A76s for power efficiency easily match and beat the 855+ in most areas
Audio quality
+ Phone call and speaker sound quality (especially at mid to higher volumes) feels a fair bit louder, fuller, clearer, richer and better balanced than the P30P
+ Audio capture when recording videos seems to be improved by a minor amount over the P30P
- Still has a single downwards firing speaker. Where's the dual stereo nowadays?
Other final thoughts:
+ Under display fingerprint sensor is incredibly fast and responsive - definitely ahead of the one in the P30P
+ Excellent build quality which is to be expected from another Huawei flagship - the whole device feels very premium and screams quality in the hands
+ Battery life is even better than the P30P which was already the Android battery champ!
+ Great price if you can somehow import it over from China - I paid 5800¥ for the 128GB model to a friend who brought it to me (approximately $820/€736/£634)
I hope people will find my well-balanced comparison helpful between the M30P and my P30P!
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ssregitoss said:
thanks you for your writing. i remember huawei advirtised is 2.5 cm close shoting super macro. which is very dissappointing for me. i like macro shots. And some reviewers in my country told that night photos are very bright and it makes the sceen very unrealist. Hope they fix this.
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MACRO mode works wonderful but it is only available for the M30
The M30 Pro lacks this feature due to different camera setup - I had both models so I can testify this from my own experience,
Pretty much best hardware best camera one of the best battery life out now, bar none
alon3232 said:
MACRO mode works wonderful but it is only available for the M30
The M30 Pro lacks this feature due to different camera setup - I had both models so I can testify this from my own experience,
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Gosh... Personally I would expect m30pro to support super macro. I was expecting a software update will fix this.
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I bought my Mate 30 Pro on February 1th 2020, when it was launched in Romania. Since I preordered it, I received the phone bundled with the Freebuds 3, which are surprisingly good and I'm a music producer, hence I care about the sound I have, even though I'm only listening music on it occasionally. I have also received a $210 coupon discount which turned this 256 Gb version of the phone into a total no brainer. No macro shots hurts, true, but besides that, after a month of usage I can still say I'm very happy with it!
A worthy successor to the Mate 20 Pro
I like it. But what about love...I don't know. I am not quite sure about my feelings yet))
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alon3232 said:
MACRO mode works wonderful but it is only available for the M30
The M30 Pro lacks this feature due to different camera setup - I had both models so I can testify this from my own experience,
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I know its being a year already lol....but how much camera quality differs between the vanilla & pro version?
OPPO FIND X5 REVIEW: A silky phone experience with few issues CHAPTER 1.After a month from the unboxing of my Oppo Find X5 as an OPPO brand ambassador I'm ready to share my full review. It will be mainly a user experience focused analysis.
Oppo Find X5 is an affordable flagship phone compared to the premium-flagship OPPO Find X5 Pro. The relevant differences are:
- Oppo Find X5: v6,5" LPTS FullHD+ AMOLED Display with Adaptive refresh rate (60, 90, 120Hz) and a maximum brightness of 1000 nits vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 6,7" LPTO 2.0 QHD+ AMOLED Display with Adaptive refresh rate (1-120Hz) and a maximum brightness of 1300 nits
- Oppo Find X5: SOC Snapdragon 888 (2021) and 8 GB of RAM vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: SOC Snapdragon 8 Gen. 1 (2022) and 12GB of RAM
- Oppo Find X5: 4800mAh battery vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 5000mAh Battery
- Oppo Find X5: 2 axis OIS on main camera and standard lenses vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: 5 axis OIS with glass lenses
- Oppo Find X5: Charging with SuperVOOC 80W and AirVOOC 30W vs Oppo Find X5 Pro: Charging with SuperVOOC 80W and AirVOOC 50W
Since Oppo Find X5 costs 999€ and X5 Pro costs 1299€, the question is: is it necessary to pay 300€ more to go Pro?
REVIEW TOPICS AND LINKS (mandatory since XDA doesn't support more then 40 images per post)
CHAPTER 1 - Build Quality, Display, Haptics & Audio, Performance and Gaming
CHAPTER 2 - Battery and Charging, Color OS Features and Camera
PART 0 - UNBOXINGI hate to repeat myself Check my Unboxing to know what hides in the super complete package of Oppo Find X5
PART 1 - Build Quality and Design Nothing to add here: the phone is amazing! 6,5" inch display with slightly curved edges both on front and the back, a Gorilla glass back treated to look and feel like silk, maybe the best touch finishes I've ever been experienced in almost 15 years of smartphones
In my opinion 6,5 inches are the perfect spot, I can use it with one hand most of the time and Color OS offers a couple of amazing UX trick to help you: One Hand Mode and Icon Pull-Down Gesture (see this in action on Color OS Launcher)
Build Quality is also great: gloss aluminium frame, nice clicky buttons on both sides (volume on the left and power on the right), Gorilla Glass Victus on the front with a preapplied screen protector. Really a top tier smartphone. An honorable mention to the beautiful camera bump with its curved raised glass. A nice touch of class.
Perfect position and reactivity for the optical fingerprint reader: fast and accurate.
A nice find is the USB Type C 3.1 with video output, a feature I really like since I often use my smartphone with external monitor or TV
PART 2 - Display The Oppo Find X5 Display is a very good one, but it doesn't shine in the landscape of current flagship Android smartphones in the same price range. It has a LTPS AMOLED Display with 120Hz Dynamic Refresh Rate and 240Hz touch sampling rate . Since it's not an LPTO Display, refresh rate is fixed according to the app your are using (this is not configurable), here some examples:
Some apps (i.e Youtube) are locked at 60Hz and experience is not super smooth, but it's a minor issue. It would be great to raise refresh rate to 120Hz when scrolling all the apps.
Display brightness is good (max 1000 nits during HDR Video, 800 with auto brightness), visibility in direct sunlight is fair and with 402 PPI everything is super nice.
In the evening and in very low lights environments, the brightness sensor behaves somewhat conservatively by lowering the brightness too much. This leads you to manually adjust the brightness level to make the readability perfect especially using Dark Mode.
Color OS offers a lot of settings to optimize colors and comfort:
I really love Cinematic DCI-P3 Pro Mode because colors looks so natural and well reproduced. Also the support for HDR 10+ makes the Oppo Find X5 a super media consumption device. The images really pops out of the screen!
It's also very nice that OPPO has decided to add the Munsell 100 test, which allows the calibration of the screen tint. Each user can then adjust the colors according to their vision to achieve the most comfortable viewing effects.
PART 3 - Audio and Haptics
Let's start with Haptics: the new O-Haptics engine it's configurable on two feels: Crisp or Gente and is very well implemented system-wide. You can really feel the natural feedback swiping, scrolling and typing.
Oppo also took care of the audio section. The smartphone has a main speaker in the bottom and uses the earpiece as a second speaker to replicate a stereo effect.
The result is good, with a sustained volume that never distorts. Hands-free calls are also excellent, even in relatively noisy environments.
Color OS shines with a lot of useful settings. In evidence the presence of Dolby Atmos effects, which give body and space to the audio in the headphones.
Unfortunately there is no 3.5mm jack but with a Type C analog dongle (not included) I can still use my favorite wired headphones.
If you prefer Bluetooth headphones, Oppo Find X5 offers a Bluetooth 5.2 module with support for all the best codecs: in addition to the classic SBC we find AAC, Apt-X, Apt-X HD, Apt-X Adaptive, Apt-X TWS +, LDAC and LHDC for wireless Hi-Res quality on the go.
I've tested Bluetooth with my Technics AZ60 in LDAC: the maximum volume is not the highest but the quality is very good.
Unfortunately Color OS lacks of a graphic equalizer and a finer tool for audio configuration.
Color OS offers the possibility of choosing the recording source in case external devices - such as headphones or external microphone - are connected to the phone.
PART 4 - Connectivity, Performance and Gaming
Do you think Snapdragon 888 is old? Nothing more wrong! The 2021 flaghship SOC is still a solid performer and after a year of optimizations (Snapdragon 888 is well known by OPPO since it was used in the Find X3 Pro) it runs so fast, smooth and with almost no overheat. All the apps open fast , system is very smooth and the 8 GB of RAM are sufficient for good multitasking. I would have preferred 12GB of RAM instead of expandability (2,3 or 5GB) using the internal UFS memory (slower than RAM).
Since performance are top notch, you can consider OPPO Find X5 a flagship with minor (almost imperceptible) differences in performance compared to its big brother X5 Pro.
Gaming experience is amazing with a great level of details and high frame rate in almost all the most demanding games. Here you can see benchmark performance of CPU, GPU and UFS Internal memory:
For the hardcore gamers, there is a Performance Mode that unleashes the full power of the SOC at the cost of more overheating and shorter battery life.
It is also possible to configure the Game Toolkit as you like to adapt the performance according to the game being played.
The connectivity sector of Oppo Find X5 is flawless: 4G reception is truly excellent and is more stable and reactive than S22 Ultra and Pixel 6 Pro. Wifi 6 and Bluetooth 5.2 are also perfect.
The GPS is also fast and accurate.
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