I have a stock Moto G4 Plus. Today, I got the notification that Nougat update is available. I haven't updated it yet, as I read lots of problem with the Nougat on the web, things like reduce battery life, sluggish performance, lower volume sound etc... and etc...
What's your experience, if you already updated? I'd appreciate any inputs.
Should I or shouldn't I update? I don't care too much about the new Nougat functionalities.
The battery life of my G4 Plus is great with the current Marshmallow (4-5 hours SOT at the minimum) and it's smooth and fast for what I use it for.
Thank you very much in advance.
testrider said:
I have a stock Moto G4 Plus. Today, I got the notification that Nougat update is available. I haven't updated it yet, as I read lots of problem with the Nougat on the web, things like reduce battery life, sluggish performance, lower volume sound etc... and etc...
What's your experience, if you already updated? I'd appreciate any inputs.
Should I or shouldn't I update? I don't care too much about the new Nougat functionalities.
The battery life of my G4 Plus is great with the current Marshmallow (4-5 hours SOT at the minimum) and it's smooth and fast for what I use it for.
Thank you very much in advance.
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It seems to work just fine for the average user, if you haven't made any modifications to your device, I 100% recommend you upgrade.
Will it kill my ability to use Verizon mobile hotspot with grandfathered unlimited data?
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It seems to work just fine for the average user, if you haven't made any modifications to your device, I 100% recommend you upgrade.
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Thank you! Appreciate the reply. No, I didn't modify mine. I decided to keep at least one phone completely stock and unrooted for reliability reason
I have the G4 Plus with stock Marshmallow for a while now and it never hung, crashed, slowed. If I run it all the way to 5% battery, I got at least 5-6 hours SOT.
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Currently my g4 doesn't check for tethering subscription with Verizon Grandfathered UDP. Has anyone with Verizon UDP applied 7 update?
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That's not how it works. The G4 has no clue what PLAN do you have with your provider... it's up to your provider to signal that entitlement to the G4. The only way to get around that is with rooting.
Anyway, I think nobody has that plan anymore. Especially when the new ones can be cheaper.
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/03/01/verizon-unlimited-vs-grandfathered-unlimited/
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You don't have a Grandfathered UDP, so I'm really not interested in anything you say. My question was not directed at you.
Non rooted stock, never unlocked this device. I flip flop using Tmobile and Verizon MVNO Total Wireless. Where I work there is alot of Verizon Repeaters and getting signal into the building is pretty hard for anyone unless your on Verizon. I have issue with cellular signal showing connection after it had been disconnected from the tower, random wireless disconnects, had a bootloop on reboot, screen blackout no button control, the device seems to work very good overall with this build. There are some bugs that need to be addressed, and Google has addressed some in 7.1.1 Hope that helps anyone.
Hey guys, before you start polluting this thread with "this update made my phone overheats to hell" or "this phone is super laggy plzzz fixxx", do a factory reset after the update. Trust me, 99% of the time it'll fix any issues you have.
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You don't have a Grandfathered UDP, so I'm really not interested in anything you say. My question was not directed at you.
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While your response to @SoNic67 seems a bit harsh, he's since edited his posts so I don't know if you were being righteous or not.
FWIW, I DO have a grandfathered UDP with Verizon, and regularly use androids' native portable WiFi hotspot to consume LOTS of bandwidth. Sonic67 had a point in that Verizon hasn't released the ROMs for the g4 plus - there's no vzw software on the phone that cares or checks to see if you're authorized by vzw to use your data however you see fit. He was wrong by implying that a carrier must "signal" its authorization for you to share your data connection with other devices - it doesn't work that way either. My advice: go ahead and update.
Oh - I should probably tell you that after I updated to moto's official Nougat, I promptly flashed the latest TWRP and @Silesh.Nair's InvictaOS before ever testing the stock Nougat ROMs' WiFi hotspot. I expect it works as well as moto's Marshmallow hotspot does. If not, you've got at least a dozen options.
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He was wrong by implying that a carrier must "signal" its authorization for you to share your data connection with other devices - it doesn't work that way either.
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The tethering is not authorized on stock firmware until it is "checked" and gets"OK" from the provider. It happen to me with CricketWireless.
However, you are trying to help somebody that doesn't care to be helped, unless it's under his conditions. I have blocked him for being rude.
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The tethering is not authorized on stock firmware until it is "checked" and gets"OK" from the provider. It happen to me with CricketWireless.
However, you are trying to help somebody that doesn't care to be helped, unless it's under his conditions. I have blocked him for being rude.
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As i gather you know, the portable WiFi hotspot in aosp certainly doesn't bother to get authorization from any carrier, and I recall no such hotspot authorization function added to moto's stock Marshmallow ROM for the unlocked G4.
Anyway, I guess neither of us have definitively answered the guy's question about the hotspot in moto's new OTA update to Nougat .
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-hotspot-entitlement-bypass-v1-1-5-9-t2705152
It's about MotoX, but I assure you is present in the G4 Plus also.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-hotspot-entitlement-bypass-v1-1-5-9-t2705152
It's about MotoX, but I assure you is present in the G4 Plus also.
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That's interesting. Thanks.
Before reading your last post, I got curious so I installed the updated stock nougat ROM again and tested the hotspot. It worked fine (without any entitlement bypass tweaks and without root).
FWIW, I've never purchased / activated the hotspot option for my vzw unlimited data plan.
Edit: I read that tethering entitlement bypass thread's OP more closely, and he referred to "carriers' Moto Xs" and different carriers entitlement check apps. So, i don't believe it applies to the unlocked moto g4 plus not sold through carriers (which is what we're talking about here .
Works good for me. The ads still behave the same and I'd love them to be gone, but I guess that's irrelevant. Tbh I do think my system is slightly slower but it's never been enough for me to have time to complain about it.
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Why is everyone so worried about root on lilipop as we havent gotten root on 4.4.4 yet lolipop looks terribe for one stay on kit kat and don't worry so much i dont see anything different in lilipop except astetic changes and new security
There is no android device yet(to my knowledge) that hasn't been rooted. I think they all will get rooted sooner or later. If there's no root it not android... My opinion
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The VZW Moto X 2014 has no known root method for 4.4.4
you need to read the post by chainfire then
I am worried about root on both KK and Lollipop. I came from a Hero, Evo, Evo 3D, S3, M8 and now I want the N4. I have rooted and applied custom roms on all of the phones so far to help maximize the phone. I know the N4 is a beast of a phone and shouldn't need much to maximize, but I would still like to have at least root access for my apps and maybe safestrap for flashing custom roms.
My thoughts are now is whether or not to get the N6 or the N4. N6 will be fully customizable, but I believe the N4 will be the better phone even without a unlocked bootloader. Not having an removable battery or SD card slot is a possible no go for me seeing the Lollipop with eat more room into the internal storage.
I am going to my local VZW store today to check it out with the wife.
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I am worried about root on both KK and Lollipop. I came from a Hero, Evo, Evo 3D, S3, M8 and now I want the N4. I have rooted and applied custom roms on all of the phones so far to help maximize the phone. I know the N4 is a beast of a phone and shouldn't need much to maximize, but I would still like to have at least root access for my apps and maybe safestrap for flashing custom roms.
My thoughts are now is whether or not to get the N6 or the N4. N6 will be fully customizable, but I believe the N4 will be the better phone even without a unlocked bootloader. Not having an removable battery or SD card slot is a possible no go for me seeing the Lollipop with eat more room into the internal storage.
I am going to my local VZW store today to check it out with the wife.
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have you seen my thread about developer edition note 4? best of both worlds
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have you seen my thread about developer edition note 4? best of both worlds
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yeah I saw it, I can't justify that cash right now for a D-N4. I am upgrading on the Edge plan and VZW is footing $25 a month for my phone and I will be just paying $5 a month or a total of $120 in 24 months for the N4. I have a 10gb plan and that's why they are footing the $25 a month.
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yeah I saw it, I can't justify that cash right now for a D-N4. I am upgrading on the Edge plan and VZW is footing $25 a month for my phone and I will be just paying $5 a month or a total of $120 in 24 months for the N4. I have a 10gb plan and that's why they are footing the $25 a month.
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ahhh i understand. i buy everything off contract which has its positives and negatives lol
jolly_roger_hook said:
Why is everyone so worried about root on lilipop as we havent gotten root on 4.4.4 yet lolipop looks terribe for one stay on kit kat and don't worry so much i dont see anything different in lilipop except astetic changes and new security
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WAAHHHH!!! except astetic changes. are you serious? what about ART? You know the whole new platform android will be running on. All I can say is CMON MAN!
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The phone is still fresh and the development foresight started vanishing after the announcement of the Nexus 6 and Droid Turbo. I bought one out of impulse and once I seen the XDA forum as a ghost town I returned it. Not getting sucked into another deadbeat investment.
Motorola encrypts their bootloaders though, but I don't think that means it can't be rooted.
Samsung has a huge following. The Note 4 has a huge following. There will be a root at some point.
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counting on root to fix some so far minor problems I cannot solve.
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Samsung has a huge following. The Note 4 has a huge following. There will be a root at some point.
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It's been half a year, and it's looking as unlikely as ever that there will be a root for the Verizon Note 4.
I am not so sure. There are still plenty of Devs working it out. Even though nothing has been found yet, they have taken out alot of possibilities. Plus this morning saw a post that I believe was specific for the RE N4 and a possible way for r/w access on /system directory. Waiting to hear word whether it works or not, but if it does, that is all I need. Me personally, I do not care much for custom ROM's, just need control on the device and when it tells me I am not allowed, it irks me.
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It's been half a year, and it's looking as unlikely as ever that there will be a root for the Verizon Note 4.
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Well even if someone was making progress, I wouldn't expect to hear anything from them due to the bounty. It's a lot of money, and announcing it could give someone else an advantage - they could potentially search for forum posts or questions you may have asked to try and extrapolate your methods, look at your past techniques and area of expertise, or just plain try and hack you.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a *little*disappointed that we still don't have it, but Lollipop had been great so far (battery issues aside), so it isn't nearly as important to me as it once was. Since Lollipop now let's apps write to the external SD, the only things I really want are Titanium Backup and the ability to remove status bar icons (like that Verizon '4g LTE' icon that NEVER goes away, even with mobile data turn off...)
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Well even if someone was making progress, I wouldn't expect to hear anything from them due to the bounty. It's a lot of money, and announcing it could give someone else an advantage - they could potentially search for forum posts or questions you may have asked to try and extrapolate your methods, look at your past techniques and area of expertise, or just plain try and hack you.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a *little*disappointed that we still don't have it, but Lollipop had been great so far (battery issues aside), so it isn't nearly as important to me as it once was. Since Lollipop now let's apps write to the external SD, the only things I really want are Titanium Backup and the ability to remove status bar icons (like that Verizon '4g LTE' icon that NEVER goes away, even with mobile data turn off...)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...s-only/rd-rooting-n910a-n910v-models-t3042045
There's the thread I came across earlier. With that said, there are no specifics being posted outside of PM but there are plenty of updates as far as opportune routes they are going in.
Sucks. My bro hates lollipop as much as I did.I was hoping to help him roll back. Told him to ditch Verizon with me, but he didn't listen. Now he's stuck in a weak data plan with a locked down phone. Oh well.
Barkleyfan said:
Sucks. My bro hates lollipop as much as I did.I was hoping to help him roll back. Told him to ditch Verizon with me, but he didn't listen. Now he's stuck in a weak data plan with a locked down phone. Oh well.
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Not many people care if phone is locked"bootloader" honestly non-geeks
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Not many people care if phone is locked"bootloader" honestly non-geeks
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I see it everywhere. People buy expensive smart phones just to text, make phone calls, take pictures, use social media, play games and a little casual web browsing. Then they still have the stock launcher with all the same icons and widgets that the phone came with and they go into the app drawer to search for any app they want to use. They have no clue about customization, settings or the file system. I think they just want other people to see that they have the best stuff.
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I see it everywhere. People buy expensive smart phones just to text, make phone calls, take pictures, use social media, play games and a little casual web browsing. Then they still have the stock launcher with all the same icons and widgets that the phone came with and they go into the app drawer to search for any app they want to use. They have no clue about customization, settings or the file system. I think they just want other people to see that they have the best stuff.
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yea since its not one of the best phones out even without root..
regardless, root adds to the value to some but not everyone.. many have never rooted a device and us that do is a VERY small piece of the customer base like 1% or less small.
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elliwigy said:
yea since its not one of the best phones out even without root..
regardless, root adds to the value to some but not everyone.. many have never rooted a device and us that do is a VERY small piece of the customer base like 1% or less small.
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I wonder what percentage of users are crazy enough to pay full price for a developer edition phone just so we can hopefully get some cool new rom. Then we still have to wait for root to come to the retail phones before development can take off. Oh well, at least I'm not having the issues the OTA caused everyone.
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Remember: Read twice - Flash once
I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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I was hoping the very few minimal complaints I have with this phone will be fixed in lollipop. Camera for example. That lag!
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.
mattlach said:
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Could not agree more
Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot
How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.
G1 (HTC dream)
HTC mytouch slide
Thunderbolt
Galaxy s4
I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
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I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because
I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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they fixed it already
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.
I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).
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Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
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What are you basing this on?
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What are you basing this on?
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Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely
See here:
https://plus.google.com/107679240815941684447/posts/SRbzCoSW9JX
More:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/605828513220816896
For the ones who are lazy in reading comments, this is the reason that this guy gives for the delay:
"Verizon delays on latest smartphones are due to Nationwide HD Voice. We want to make sure Software updates for HD Voice service is acceptable and does not impact voice quality. Verizon is the only company that has nationwide HD Voice in the USA. AT&T just has most metro cities here and there. T-Mobile and Sprint are way behind"
:good:
P.D. Maybe now is the time for the Maxx's users to complain about not getting 5.1 as well as the Turbo.
Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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From the same guy:
AC 1.0 is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
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Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
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Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
jake7405 said:
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
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Huh looks like Kit Kat in the status bar. If that's the case, I'll stay on 4.4.4
i like that guy, its better explaining this than staying in the dark:
J.A. Post on Google+ said:
is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
Motorola is small potatoes on budget compared to Samsung and Apple. Delays are usually due to funding for test verifications on new device software.
Jeeze, I should just shut up... Bye everyone
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hmmmm. choices.............. Stay on root, or take the update........................
OR wait for rooted update!!!!
Patience........... patience...............
Or take the OTA, then root again.
Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
Cases
Thank you very much, I could not find quality phone cases for our
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Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
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Guess I need to check out kingroot thread again - it didn't seem to be as baked as the current system / images root method.
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Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
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Take "mid-June" with a grain of salt.
All that means is it probably won't come BEFORE then.
Note the Google + post has been deleted which was referenced in the op. So, actually there is no date promise anymore...
Yeah, there's a lot of built up anger towards Motorola and Verizon (should be directed towards Verizon), so any engineers/spokespeople who publicly post even good news at this point will get lots of backlash for broken promises, lack of past communication -- and rightly so. They need to learn from this instead of running away from it.
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Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "
Nexus 6 is near identical internals.
VoLTE works fine sans camera and I'm certain that is software related.
So I'd take the VoLTE cause for the hold up with a grain of salt too. Especially since Verizon was so willing to ship it last year when it was clearly broken and would have shown in testing.
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I was asking about the Kingroot for Droid Turbo.
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
wyldnewbie said:
I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
wyldnewbie said:
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
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Or buy a Samsung, updates and support from LG sucks
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Well. I think you've got the right idea,,,
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Are there any versions or builds to avoid? That would make root access harder, I meAn.
Thank you very much for your input and time.
Kevin
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I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
You are (without a doubt) THE MAN!
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I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
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Brian,
I ended up returning the LS997 I had, because even though it was GSM unlockeď, I couldn't get MMS via SMS to work. It seemed like the MMS settings weren't being modified when I set up my APN for Virgin Mobile Canada. I am now hunting ebay for a H918.
I have been following your various threads here on XDA, and have to say that I appreciate the way you think through these things.
Also, I hope that your family emergency has resolved well.
Are the any specific 918s that I should avoid (ie: android or lg software updates, ARBs, etc...)
Thank you again.
Kevin
Well, I can't deny good advice when it's given !
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
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As it happened, the LS997 wasn't sending MMS via SMS, and seemed to not let me update the MMS section of the APN settings. So I've sent it back. Am looking for a nice H918 right now.
So... thank you for your good advice!
Kevin
Yea, it makes no difference what software is on the H918.
The LS997 should be avoided like the plague. It will be rootable, but it will probably never be worth a damn. Sprint had LG flip additional switches in that models CPU (qfuses), so hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted. For example, cellular bands being disabled at the hardware level.
When the 700Mhz auction took place, Google was able to get some provisions into the agreement for that spectrum where carriers had to allow other devices on their network, and had to allow for unlocking. However, if the phone doesn't have the hardware needed to work on other carriers, well, then it is moot.
Sprint is taking advantage of that, and making sure their models only work on their network. They need to keep as many customers as they can.
-- Brian
Hi Brian,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
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Hi Brain,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
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If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
-- Brian
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If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
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I have been following the LAF exploit thread for a long time, and very happy to see that he have come back and opened another LS997 rooting thread. But you know, my concern is about performance of the phone; will be improved with another kernel / rom or not.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
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Thank you Brian for this good news ^_^
I did, and I did,and your advice was very correct. I like my H918 more than the LS997.....
I'm a happier guy for having followed your advice.....
Sorry... I was responding to the person who told me to get a 918
Hey guys... long time since i posted here. I still have my V20 H910 and i want to upgrade it to Oreo. ATT sim in phone will not show or allow any updates (says up to date) So i been trying to see what would the easiest way to flash H915 (All that ATT bloat gone) while still being able to use LTE? (Phone is now unlocked so i wont be on ATT)
I have been looking at all these guides but i seem to be getting mixed answers...
Can anyone point me down the right path? I saw somewhere that the H915 OREO KDZ is all you need while others say you need to root and patch the modem... So confused...
Appreciate it!
The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
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Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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Yes, I understood that, but there really isn't any reason for me to do that and upset how the V20 is working at the moment - I've NEVER had a process involving rooting a device go without a hitch (I must be super unlucky!) so I'll just leave well alone. If I had a second device I'd most definitely give it a go.
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The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Hi, im thinking of doing this on my v20 that currently has LOS16 on it but the camera is not working and the battery life is horrendous. can you tell me if the hotspot works using this method, thats the main reason i changed from stock.
This is rather extreme to get a phone updated. If you are in the US, you just have to borrow or order an AT&T SIM to get your phone updated. This might even work outside US, but I don't know.