I generally hate these types of threads, but I'm looking for a specific bit of information and a ROM recommendation.
Which ROMs offer the most compete and fullest experience without GApps? I'm seriously considering doing an install with no GApps, and seeing if I can get by with just microG. I'd like the ROM I go with then to come with a nice, full-featured and up-to-date suite of open source apps built in, without feeling like I'm using a bunch of old apps from AOSP that haven't been updated since Holo.
I'm guessing LineageOS and OmniROM are the top choices, but do most microG users prefer one over the other?
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I generally hate these types of threads, but I'm looking for a specific bit of information and a ROM recommendation.
Which ROMs offer the most compete and fullest experience without GApps? I'm seriously considering doing an install with no GApps, and seeing if I can get by with just microG. I'd like the ROM I go with then to come with a nice, full-featured and up-to-date suite of open source apps built in, without feeling like I'm using a bunch of old apps from AOSP that haven't been updated since Holo.
I'm guessing LineageOS and OmniROM are the top choices, but do most microG users prefer one over the other?
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I'd use Chads uber. That rom is more powerful than any other rom and comes with gapps and not many apps. Also you can just use titanium backup to freeze apps
wrkerr said:
I generally hate these types of threads, but I'm looking for a specific bit of information and a ROM recommendation.
Which ROMs offer the most compete and fullest experience without GApps? I'm seriously considering doing an install with no GApps, and seeing if I can get by with just microG. I'd like the ROM I go with then to come with a nice, full-featured and up-to-date suite of open source apps built in, without feeling like I'm using a bunch of old apps from AOSP that haven't been updated since Holo.
I'm guessing LineageOS and OmniROM are the top choices, but do most microG users prefer one over the other?
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Depends what you need from the google apps. Some work with microg some not.
I only keep google apps because of Google Photos which doesn't fully work under microg.
I've found open source alternatives for all other apps that I use, sometimes working even better.
Yeah would be nice 2 go googleless.
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Depends what you need from the google apps. Some work with microg some not.
I only keep google apps because of Google Photos which doesn't fully work under microg.
I've found open source alternatives for all other apps that I use, sometimes working even better.
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Can you please share these alternatives? I'm quite satisfied by now, but it's always nice to have options
Interesting. This is the first I've heard of MicroG. I've been reducing my Google footproot for about 6 months now. I have been running with all of my google activity paused for several months. It's actually a pain in the a$$, when I need to use maps, and no data from my locations or area is there, but that's also a good thing, and why I do it. Maps is probably the biggest hassle. If I were smarter, I'd just get another navigation app that I trust more than the Mothership, ha ha.
So, their site says that their version of the playstore doesn't work? So you can't download aps from it? Why do they offer it, is it needed for certain apps maybe? I could live with apk mirror if I needed to. It would just be much more inconvenient.
What's the reason for you guys to reduce the google stuff then?
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What's the reason for you guys to reduce the google stuff then?
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There are probably a handful of reasons, but I'll give you my top 2.
First, I am generally trying to avoid closed source software, where the software's inner workings are hidden from the users. If it's going to run on my hardware, and I'm going to trust it with my personal information, I'd prefer that the developer(s) to be transparent enough to let us know what their software is doing on my systems, and with my information. Most all of Google's core apps are now closed source.
Second, I don't like Google's logging policy. They retain as much data as they can, and I think that should give any thoughtful user reason for concern. Google may or may not be doing malicious things with the data they are retaining now, but even if I'm trusting them with my traffic today, knowingly participating while they log activity requires that I also trust that Google will continue to be benevolent with that data in 10, 20, and 30 years into the future, since that data is likely not being lost (particularly as data storage continues to get cheaper and cheaper). Not only that, using their services also requires placing confidence in them that their databases will not be breached at any point in the future, with leaked data falling into malicious hands. To me, it seems to be a virtual certainty that the data integrity will be breached at some point, it's just a matter of time.
Therefore, it seems like an unnecessary risk to take when and where there are good alternatives to Google products and services. Some risks are worth it. Others are not. Let each man judge for himself.
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Interesting. This is the first I've heard of MicroG. I've been reducing my Google footproot for about 6 months now. I have been running with all of my google activity paused for several months. It's actually a pain in the a$$, when I need to use maps, and no data from my locations or area is there, but that's also a good thing, and why I do it. Maps is probably the biggest hassle. If I were smarter, I'd just get another navigation app that I trust more than the Mothership, ha ha.
So, their site says that their version of the playstore doesn't work? So you can't download aps from it? Why do they offer it, is it needed for certain apps maybe? I could live with apk mirror if I needed to. It would just be much more inconvenient.
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OsmAnd is the open source navigation app many people use.
Similarly, F-Droid is an open source app store.
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There are probably a handful of reasons, but I'll give you my top 2.
First, I am generally trying to avoid closed source software, where the software's inner workings are hidden from the users. If it's going to run on my hardware, and I'm going to trust it with my personal information, I'd prefer that the developer(s) to be transparent enough to let us know what their software is doing on my systems, and with my information. Most all of Google's core apps are now closed source.
Second, I don't like Google's logging policy. They retain as much data as they can, and I think that should give any thoughtful user reason for concern. Google may or may not be doing malicious things with the data they are retaining now, but even if I'm trusting them with my traffic today, knowingly participating while they log activity requires that I also trust that Google will continue to be benevolent with that data in 10, 20, and 30 years into the future, since that data is likely not being lost (particularly as data storage continues to get cheaper and cheaper). Not only that, using their services also requires placing confidence in them that their databases will not be breached at any point in the future, with leaked data falling into malicious hands. To me, it seems to be a virtual certainty that the data integrity will be breached at some point, it's just a matter of time.
Therefore, it seems like an unnecessary risk to take when and where there are good alternatives to Google products and services. Some risks are worth it. Others are not. Let each man judge for himself.
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Thanks for stating your point. I can get in to that.
Always nice to hear peoples reasons for doing things the way they do. Interresting.
I'll study this some more.
I tried to de-google the other night, but couldn't get everything implemented properly. I could use titanium backup pro, but I couldn't get Ex Kernel Manager to work (it needed to check it's license), and other apps like Google play music etc.
I think I need signature spoofing. Is that only availab if it's built into the ROM, or can I add that functionality on my own?
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OsmAnd is the open source navigation app many people use.
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What device do you have? I can't get OmsAnd to work on my 6P. It can't locate me it says, but it has proper permission.
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What device do you have? I can't get OmsAnd to work on my 6P. It can't locate me it says, but it has proper permission.
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Are you using GApps or microG? If you're using microG, I believe you also should install their UnifiedNlp and a location provider plugin for it.
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Are you using GApps or microG? If you're using microG, I believe you also should install their UnifiedNlp and a location provider plugin for it.
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Gapps for now. My ROM doesn't have signature spoofing, so I can't use microG ?
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Gapps for now. My ROM doesn't have signature spoofing, so I can't use microG
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Hmm, idk then. On my 6P with GApps on OmniROM, OSMAnd just works out of the box. I installed it from F-Droid.
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Hmm, idk then. On my 6P with GApps on OmniROM, OSMAnd just works out of the box. I installed it from F-Droid.
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I could be doing something wrong. It's very, very feature rich, and I'm 100% new to it, so maybe there's a setting somewhere that needs to be turned on for it to be able to find me?
I don't have Google maps installed, just play services and whatnot. I installed from the play store.
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Gapps for now. My ROM doesn't have signature spoofing, so I can't use microG
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To add signature spoofing you can use one of these three tools: Tingle, Needle or Haystack.
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I thought it was common sense, but my buddy with a G1 was like "I didn't know you could do that!?"
OK... so... Go to MarketPlace, Menu key--My Downloads.... if it says installed, you're all good. If it says Install and is a program you HAVE installed? Click it. Will overwrite the old version automatically.
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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Yeah, have heard it doesn't update that fast?
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Oh wow.. thanks! That's even worse!
Some apps (Twitdroid is a good example) alerts you if there's a new update; and most apps have contact details for the developer, so maybe drop them an email and ask for some auto update code to be added into your favourite apps? Bummer though, you still have to go into the market to update them.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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True, I suppose it is a matter of personal preference. Since I only have a half dozen apps installed on my G1, it's rather trivial to just check the download list. I balance that against having yet another app installed, not to mention having my app installation habits data-mined by aTrackdog.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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I am not a developer but can see a potential for an exploit on this maybe? Sending out info isn't ever really a good idea. Even if it's set to only send out this and that data, I have seen exploits take advantage of less.
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
aTrackDog work nice
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
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Actually it is an open source project. However project leaders have very broad discretion to guide the direction a project takes. A good example would be the Android Open Source Project.
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Yeah the average Googler received a $1000 holiday bonus last year.
wow 1000 dollar bonus... that is really good... but I understand why that is cut in half this year especially with the way the economy is.
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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u921333 said:
Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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i dont think you understand what he means... im not a troll . but he said he doesnt want it to have google ,also for it to keep everything private... also look at my new signature LMFAO
sorry quoted wrong guy but yeah if he is lucky and doesnt brick.
how would this be possible ? dont you need a google account to even use the phone ? could probably be wrong.
josh995 said:
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You think wrong.
knowledge561 said:
You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
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You think wrong too.
tgruendler said:
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Will it match your dunce cap?
davidc23 said:
Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
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You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
jvward said:
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
datajosh said:
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
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Wrong again, check my post immediately above yours.
mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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You think wrong.
You think wrong too.
Will it match your dunce cap?
You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned and is apparently worried about).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
There is only so much that can be done without the use of, say, GApps ... might get the job done but would essentially kill the idea of even owning said phone.
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bwcorvus said:
When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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Obviously the OS is made by Google, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means a rom which won't constantly sync with google's servers.
Also, you CAN sideload apps without market or GAPPS installed, the trick is just to find the .apk files somewhere other than google market, but most are on either amazon market or Edit, so again another WRONG piece of info given out here.
conqu1stador said:
It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Actually it's more like having an iphone and not paying for mobile me. But in this case it's a better situation because you wouldn't have to register with google to get the apps (get them somewhere else as I suggested previously), like you would have to with apple.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
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I get the 'tracking' and what not ... but no one is really 'tracking' you. Recorded, maybe. But what does that even really matter in the end?
I get that you want to point out that it can be done, and others were wrong, but it was a silly question none the less.
And, sure, of course - less RAM. And no syncing? Could always disable. But freeing up RAM and what not? Running a smooth experience? It's not going to be that much smoother than should you elect to NOT use proprietary apps. It's not going to be a 'night and day' thing.
I'm more or less curious what the OP wants to do with his phone. Yeah, getting apps from other avenues is always a possibility ... sure. But getting apps from outside of the Market isn't going to offer less system stability, or smoothness, as opposed to getting them from the market.
Sure, I suppose it could be done ... but what are you trying to do? And, as said, it's only as secure as the latest version of Android ... which is constantly facing security issues.
It was sort of a silly post. Gotta admit that much.
I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?
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I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?
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sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?
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simms22 said:
sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?
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I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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I'm confused. How would I flash a ROM without flashing it?
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I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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Are you mad? I briefly answered a simple question. Is there any particular reason for your itch to harangue me about a consumer decision? I'm well aware of how corporations operate. Are you ignorant of how consumption and markets work?
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lol @ this thread.
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I should have known better than to give any background info. My question should have been:
"Is there any ROM with no or minimal google services?"
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It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?
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what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?
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I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.
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I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.
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no problem with that, its your device
anyways, if you do delete something that youre not supposed to out of /sytem/app/ and your device wont work, you can always reflash the rom to get it up again. or you can make a backup in your recovery, then restore it if things go wrong.
Righteous. Right.
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Don't feed the trolls!
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AZKJS said:
Don't feed the trolls!
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Amen brother.....
.....I'm hungry.
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Wouldn't webOS do that when/if it's finally released?
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You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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rcarnes911 said:
You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.
JanJansen024 said:
Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.
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Without playstore.....installing titanium backup or anything will be painful! Lol
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Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.
ProblemChyld said:
Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.
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Lol every company hides money off shore Google just had some one write an article about it
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I'm curious if anyone has wiped Google completely out of the Nexus 6p and made it an open source mobile? (As much as one can.) These types of experiments always fascinate me. The last time I tried was on a Nexus 5 running TWRP/AOSP with FDroid. There was a considerable application gap but it almost worked for everything I needed at the time. I'm getting the urge to try again.
Yeah basically just don't flash gapps.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3s1sdg/those_that_have_removed_gapps_and_strive_to_run_a/
Seems to open you up to potentially more malware. Curious if clash of clans needs Google play services. Probably so.
Now that we've been out for awhile and development is active. Anyone AOSP only?
https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/3wqbk3/google_making_every_aosp_app_proprietary_is/
http://www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
Just flash an AOSP based rom without gapps.
What's the point?
bose301s said:
What's the point?
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Many people want a setup that doesn't collect their data and sell it off. There are a whole group of people that run android without Google and use open source alt
zelendel said:
Many people want a setup that doesn't collect their data and sell it off. There are a whole group of people that run android without Google and use open source alt
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This fascinates me more because damn near everything under the sun is collecting and selling your data, so how do people do anything? And I dont just mean phones either. Almost anything that electronic that connects to the internet today is collecting data for 1 reason or another. The only real way to prevent things from getting your data is to become Amish.
uodii said:
This fascinates me more because damn near everything under the sun is collecting and selling your data, so how do people do anything? And I dont just mean phones either. Almost anything that electronic that connects to the internet today is collecting data for 1 reason or another. The only real way to prevent things from getting your data is to become Amish.
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No there are many ways to keep your data to yourself. Things like only using things like tor browsers, vpns, and only using open source software that doesn't collect you data.
Easy, any AOSP ROM with third party market. Or even sideload apps from Play APK sites like Evozi's APK Downloader or APKPure.
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Back when I had the HTC T-Mobile G2/Desire Z I did a youtube rom showcase kind of thing, if you want to see what it would be like I have a link to the thread here on XDA in my signature. Of course since it was a few years ago I now have better equipment in the works for better videos. I know there are only 2 roms out right now, CM 13 and CM 14.1, however since the phone is still relatively new I have a feeling development might pick up in the next few months. Would anyone be interested in seeing something like that? I've always liked putting out videos that you don't really see, as I know it can be mildly frustrating sometimes while looking for something.
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First video is in progress with writing and all that stuff. No ETA just yet, as I have some college stuff to finish up the next few days. I'll open a dedicated thread once the first video is uploaded
id watch it just like a "try before i buy" type thing
I would like to see how the phone lives rooted/with cm on board, etc, before trying myself. As a noob, don't wanna mess up my new phone. However, want get rid of google bloatware (yeah, i'm among the paranoid cavemen, who doesn't trust google now, etc)
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I would like to see how the phone lives rooted/with cm on board, etc, before trying myself. As a noob, don't wanna mess up my new phone. However, want get rid of google bloatware (yeah, i'm among the paranoid cavemen, who doesn't trust google now, etc)
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Hey I get you on that one. I have CM13 installed, no GAPPS installed whatsoever and I'm using MicroG, F-Droid, and some third party APK sites instead. Takes a bit to get MicroG set up but honestly, I don't miss Google whatsoever other than the seamless contact and calendar sync.
Plus the battery life is insane without Gapps. Only charged up 10-15% once in two days.
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Hey I get you on that one. I have CM13 installed, no GAPPS installed whatsoever and I'm using MicroG, F-Droid, and some third party APK sites instead. Takes a bit to get MicroG set up but honestly, I don't miss Google whatsoever other than the seamless contact and calendar sync.
Plus the battery life is insane without Gapps. Only charged up 10-15% once in two days.
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I also want to install microG u face any issues from use of microg
yuvi15 said:
I also want to install microG u face any issues from use of microg
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I haven't had any problems with it personally. Took me a good 30 minutes to get it fully set up, but it was my first time attempting to go 100% google free for a change and dealing with it.
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I haven't had any problems with it personally. Took me a good 30 minutes to get it fully set up, but it was my first time attempting to go 100% google free for a change and dealing with it.
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Can u tell me which setup we need ?
fireball0093 said:
Hey I get you on that one. I have CM13 installed, no GAPPS installed whatsoever and I'm using MicroG, F-Droid, and some third party APK sites instead. Takes a bit to get MicroG set up but honestly, I don't miss Google whatsoever other than the seamless contact and calendar sync.
Plus the battery life is insane without Gapps. Only charged up 10-15% once in two days.
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MicroG? And how did you remove gapps? 0-o what is this sorcery!
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MicroG? And how did you remove gapps? 0-o what is this sorcery!
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I flashed CM 13, and only that. MicroG, correct me anyone if I am wrong as I just recently rediscovered it, is essentially a replacement for Google Play Services and a few other things, allowing push notifications for apps such as FB Messenger, Instagram, Twitter, etc. If you want to check out the thread here on XDA, here it is
yuvi15 said:
Can u tell me which setup we need ?
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Head over to the thread here. To my knowledge it works best on any non-stock rom. I don't think/know if it can be used on a stock rom
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I flashed CM 13, and only that. MicroG, correct me anyone if I am wrong as I just recently rediscovered it, is essentially a replacement for Google Play Services and a few other things, allowing push notifications for apps such as FB Messenger, Instagram, Twitter, etc. If you want to check out the thread here on XDA, here it is
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Oh thats cool. Is battery performance better than regularr Google apps too? Cuz if it is... :good:
Is there any installations quirks I should know tho? Only works for CM?
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Oh thats cool. Is battery performance better than regularr Google apps too? Cuz if it is... :good:
Is there any installations quirks I should know tho? Only works for CM?
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I got about 7+ hours of screen on time over 2 days, and only had to charge it up 10% or so once. Ended the day with about 35-40% battery left. It should work for any custom rom where you are required to also flash the google apps. I personally didn't run into any installation problems with it
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I got about 7+ hours of screen on time over 2 days, and only had to charge it up 10% or so once. Ended the day with about 35-40% battery left. It should work for any custom rom where you are required to also flash the google apps. I personally didn't I run into any installation problems with it
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Do any apps with MicroG have problems woking? Cuz I read some parts of it don't work on certain apps
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Do any apps with MicroG have problems woking? Cuz I read some parts of it don't work on certain apps
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The regular apps I use I didn't run into any issues other than Yahoo Weather, wouldn't display the radar.