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As informed by gsmarena the galaxy note 2 will have a 5.5 inch screen and will look like the galaxy sIII, which i personally am not too keen on.
http://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_g...ins_narrower_than_original_note-news-4455.php
That's about as much confirmed as Spain will win the European Championship this Sunday.
I have also heard it will have a 5.4" Flexible OLED screen and neither that is confirmed either.
I'd bet my whole device that the screen WILL be larger by a bit.
You know, as much as I'd love to stay up with current trends, I'm not too moved by the S3 and Note 2. They don't have that much of an edge over the S2 and Note, so it's not really that worth it to upgrade. Again, this is just my views:good:
The styling too is not one that I'm particularly liking, the whole rounded shape and the materials used. Yes, some might say that it's a step in the right direction, but I say there was nothing wrong with the S2 and Note's design in the first place. Even the software loaded on these devices.... Surely they could have rework TouchWiz completely, as it still looks the same even compared to GB.... So, is it worth it to upgrade to the next generation of devices....? Unless your life depends on the latest trends and fashion...... No...
These views are my own, and should not be seen as a generalization. I speak for myself, and not on behave of any other member...
From my point of view, for the time being, the Note 2 current specs are not worth the purchase since the Note 1 has everything I need for my daily use. If the upgraded device has nothing 'New' to give to the market, this will really be a letdown...8mpx cam? 1.5 ram? and still dual core???? be serious, there's nothing to be in awe!
But 1 thing is mostly certain for us : if these specs prove to be true, even if the Note 2 is not a "Big" upgrade of the Note 1, most of us will shift to it once it is released to follow the trend. Early adopters and the tech geeks, will always want to owe the latest devices and not stick to an older one. I'm not personally impress by the Note 2 specs now, but I will certainly get one when it is out like many of you, people...
I don't think they'll go with the Exynos 5250 dual core, even though it is a better chip IMO because if they don't go quad than most wont upgrade
Beards said:
That's about as much confirmed as Spain will win the European Championship this Sunday.
I have also heard it will have a 5.4" Flexible OLED screen and neither that is confirmed either.
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You are right, except that it will be not flexible but inflatable, not 5.4 but 42" and will come with built-in espresso machine (one of those with automatic grinder).
What does "confirmed" even mean here? Some site managers think they'll get attention by running an article of pure imagination, and then GSMArena says, "yes, we agree." Apparently, this is "confirmation." How should GSMArena know? They didn't even say they had a "source."
Does someone feel like saying they saw Bigfoot in Times Square the other day? I've never been to New York, but no matter. I'll come along and "confirm" it for you, just cuz I can.
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What does "confirmed" even mean here? Some site managers think they'll get attention by running an article of pure imagination, and then GSMArena says, "yes, we agree." Apparently, this is "confirmation." How should GSMArena know? They didn't even say they had a "source."
Does someone feel like saying they saw Bigfoot in Times Square the other day? I've never been to New York, but no matter. I'll come along and "confirm" it for you, just cuz I can.
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Kind of reminds me of 2010 hype on new HTC HD3, which rolled on the net and xda for few months, long after it was revealed that some guys concept sheet design was mistaken for the actual spec sheet
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Guys if the screen will be larger and the width will be smaller than note1,then i think they will set the screen ration to 16:9 because it will be bit taller and hence lesser width?As per as what i know current notes are coming with wide screen ratios?????
Gsmarena is usually accurate.
It can also be explained by the need for the extra 2 inch meant for nav bar compared to note 1
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Not going to get a Note 2 no matter what spec it has, this one suits me fine and will continue to be my main media device long after I upgrade to a regular android phone.
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I'll get a Note2 just cause I use the he'll out if this and want to new hardware.! I I'm neutral on the rounded look.... But they have to change things. How are they gonna sell 10million more.?
People love the big screen so they're gonna make a token increase.
I'd be satisfied happy with the 1.7Ram and new Exynos chip... Quad core just doesn't pan out to much performance increase in the real world less your a monster gamer.
pikulu said:
Guys if the screen will be larger and the width will be smaller than note1,then i think they will set the screen ration to 16:9 because it will be bit taller and hence lesser width?As per as what i know current notes are coming with wide screen ratios?????
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Note = 1280x800 = 16:10
To make it 16:9 they'd either have to drop the resolution to 1280x720, or increase it to something like 1366x768 or 1600x900.
1920x1080 would be nice, but I doubt it'll happen, it'd be total overkill.
If they're not going quadcore, then the Exynos 5250 would be fine given that they can run at 2Ghz and it's got a beefy T-604 GPU instead of the lowly 400. Power usage should be much improved as it's a 35nm processor versus the positively archaic 45nm we have now.
Xalies said:
I don't think they'll go with the Exynos 5250 dual core, even though it is a better chip IMO because if they don't go quad than most wont upgrade
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Yeah sure, why anyone could want a Dual core A15 when you can get an inferior A9 quad core?
Off topic : Would be great if there would be a notification led
The screen will be larger for sure but the dimensions of the phone remain same...it has to be quadcore to run JB smoothly....and Yes it will have LED....coz its a sequel to Note and successor of S3....and also a head to head match to Iphone 5
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Off topic : Would be great if there would be a notification led
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I use bLED. It works fine for me (XXLA4 with JKay_deluxe). Draws negligible power.
To me and the most important thing about the galaxy note 2 is 2 gigs of ram
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I simply can't stand notification lights, I remember old pdas, that used to have those annoying flashing leds, that's one more thing I love about the note, that will be the first thing I turn off.
Having a tough time working out how to improve my experience with the note, perhaps yes extra ram would be nice.
Sent from a galaxy note far far away
Well we all know Asus tries it best to give us the best
They have won many hearts and shown their true potential by launching a phone like zenfone 2
I am very impressed by the phone overall but underwhelmed by the battery and camera
We can hope that the next zenfone might sport something even better and still be priced economically
My wishlist is-
1. Amazing front firing speakers
Well everyone wants awesome speakers and ones who have used nexus 6p, motos
They have awesome loudness and clarity but their pricing made me not buy them , i want asus to place powerful speakers and DAC in the next phone
2. Metal or glass
Say, no to leather and plastic ... We do not want dated materials we want is the new style every company is shifting to metal(except samsung, and i do not want to talk about that **** also)
3. Camera
Asus believes in camera able to see even in dark but what it gave in zenny was under the expectations and below the standards we were made to believe in , nexus 6p and Lg v10 rule in low light shots
Please upgrade camera hardware and software , we believe in u asus u will do it
4. Battery
Its needless to say you are the best in charging tech and beat most of the flagships ??
But what needs to be improved is battery capacity and optimization to software
5. Display
Please bring in amoled , it does not matter whether it is 1080p or QHD all matters is quality even mate 8 is running 1080p display and competes well with every flagship
QHD needs a lot juice and would drain battery like hell unless amoled and dark ui is used
6. Software
Asus your zenui is way better than most of the ui's and i love it more than anything except i prefer stock in terms of looks for which i ended up using action launcher and xposed to change the status bar
Please implement an option to choose stock ui over zenui (only for notification panle and status bar and launcher and everything should be same)
Also improve theme engine to allow third party themes
Thats it folks please comment suggestions for the next zenfone , hope asus gets inspired and turn up implementing them
Everything you said, yes please.
So what do you think about SoC, should ASUS stay with intel?
Pretty 1337 specs for the next Zenfone! A brighter, more vivid IPS display would do for me. I'm quite torn about amoled screens at it tends to degrade and lose color overtime. If that's fixed, then amoled all the way!
My take on the "next Zenfone" is not a replacement, but more of an addition. Something like Sony's compact series. Basically a compact version of whatever Zenfone 3 would be. Heck even a compact Zenfone 2 would be nice! Though I have a ZE551ML, I'm pretty much a fan of small, compact phones. It has that "feels good" feel on my hand. Don't get me wrong though, I love my Zenfone!
blazzer12 said:
Everything you said, yes please.
So what do you think about SoC, should ASUS stay with intel?
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Well that matters on which chipset they will use, intel has an array of SOCs to use for smartphone like the newest one is intel atom x3,x5 and x7
X5 is used in mi pad 2 and it works very well antutu-100000 approx
If asus uses x7 then it should be better and almost near the flagship standard at least if it crosses the 100k mark and uses good GPU too! Cuz, power vr is not able to render 4k nor is strong enough like adreno and mali 880.
Well QC 820 is the best chipset to pace bet on or else intel
But, NO MEDIATEK OR NVIDIA
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Well that matters on which chipset they will use, intel has an array of SOCs to use for smartphone like the newest one is intel atom x3,x5 and x7
X5 is used in mi pad 2 and it works very well antutu-100000 approx
If asus uses x7 then it should be better and almost near the flagship standard at least if it crosses the 100k mark and uses good GPU too! Cuz, power vr is not able to render 4k nor is strong enough like adreno and mali 880.
Well QC 820 is the best chipset to pace bet on or else intel
But, NO MEDIATEK OR NVIDIA
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intel atom x is for tablets, lets hope they release newer one for mobiles
or i think Asus will go to mediatek or snapdragon
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back in September Intel was testing Core M for mobiles, i hope it will be good enough to announce it in MWC
blazzer12 said:
Everything you said, yes please.
So what do you think about SoC, should ASUS stay with intel?
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No they should move away from Intel and go with the Snapdragon 810 Processor
MikeyLee said:
No they should move away from Intel and go with the Snapdragon 810 Processor
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Seriously?? ?
AL_IRAQI said:
intel atom x is for tablets, lets hope they release newer one for mobiles
or i think Asus will go to mediatek or snapdragon
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back in September Intel was testing Core M for mobiles, i hope it will be good enough to announce it in MWC
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Thanks for the info..... now my expectations to see intel is way too low..... But still only mtk helio x20 or QC 820
Will be worth it
Good Lord I hope they never go to Mediatek
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Thanks for the info..... now my expectations to see intel is way too low..... But still only mtk helio x20 or QC 820
Will be worth it
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They never used high end cpu, i think they will go with 808
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Before I start, I have a question. What Xposed module did you install to change the status bar?
I'm quite happy with my Zenfone 2, I payed $400 AUD for it, and considering something like the Nexus 5x is nearly $700 here I think I it's amazing for the price. Obviously to reach that price they had to make some sacrifices.
Speakers:
The speakers weren't the best but I mostly use earphones and when I do use the speakers its fine. Though with the next Zenfone they could move the speaker to the front under the capacitive buttons.
Camera:
The camera is really good in good lighting but horrible in low light, that is something they need to improve on.
Display:
AMOLED, PLEASE.
Battery:
Here we go, this is probably the most controversial of them all. Some people say the battery life is great, others say is garbage. I personally blame 5.0 and Zenui, but hopefully they can make battery consistent across the board.
Software:
Asus needs to scrap Zenui, it's ugly, outdated, and downright rubbish. The first thing I did with my Zenfone was install SuperZen and Nova Launcher, I still wish I could change to 5.1 but I don't want to go with something like CM12.0 because it still has signs of bugs. Asus should be doing what Oppo has done with 'Project Spectrum' and release an optional near AOSP rom with no rubbish thrown in. If I had the money I would of gone with a Nexus. Nothing beats the buttery smoothness of Stock Android.
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Before I start, I have a question. What Xposed module did you install to change the status bar?
I'm quite happy with my Zenfone 2, I payed $400 AUD for it, and considering something like the Nexus 5x is nearly $700 here I think I it's amazing for the price. Obviously to reach that price they had to make some sacrifices.
Speakers:
The speakers weren't the best but I mostly use earphones and when I do use the speakers its fine. Though with the next Zenfone they could move the speaker to the front under the capacitive buttons.
Camera:
The camera is really good in good lighting but horrible in low light, that is something they need to improve on.
Display:
AMOLED, PLEASE.
Battery:
Here we go, this is probably the most controversial of them all. Some people say the battery life is great, others say is garbage. I personally blame 5.0 and Zenui, but hopefully they can make battery consistent across the board.
Software:
Asus needs to scrap Zenui, it's ugly, outdated, and downright rubbish. The first thing I did with my Zenfone was install SuperZen and Nova Launcher, I still wish I could change to 5.1 but I don't want to go with something like CM12.0 because it still has signs of bugs. Asus should be doing what Oppo has done with 'Project Spectrum' and release an optional near AOSP rom with no rubbish thrown in. If I had the money I would of gone with a Nexus. Nothing beats the buttery smoothness of Stock Android.
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I won't recommend xposed as it makes the phone slow at least for me, but still if you want to use then go for xstana.
Just remember... More features, better hardware means higher cost.
blazzer12 said:
Everything you said, yes please.
So what do you think about SoC, should ASUS stay with intel?
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NO! A Big No for that!!!
very bad WiFi performance. comparing with my GTab 3.80 and S6e, with the same router and internet provider, my ZenFone perform worst.
very bad GSM performance. lost signal happen a lot.
very bad battery performance.
Mine is good at all of those,
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barometric pressure sensor (nice for pilots)
phone charm loop hole (nice for girlies to attach helloyKittyThingies and for pilots/outdoor-users to secure phone on the gear)
integrated pen
illuminated buttons (with possibility to use backlight notifications)
Frankenberrie said:
Just remember... More features, better hardware means higher cost.
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Ever heard of xiaomi ; it defies higher cost for better hardware ?
mostly all of my phones were chinesse brands (big brands) so i am quite familiar with them and love them but as you may know the support on roms is a little bit limited because they are not open source , but even with that the manufacturers are upgrading for at least one android version upwards
so basically thats why i am in dilemma because of those 2 things
better support and the beautiful Amoled screen which most chinesse brands are not using
so my budget is around 200 pounds (GBP)
i dont know if i should get the Samsung s5 (upgradable to android 6.0) which i can find for that price on ebay or wait and get a phone with the new Mediatek Helio x20 processor which is 2016
only thing i dont like with the Samsung s5 is the battery which is like 2800mah and now there are some chinesse brands like Oukitel that are making 6000mah batteries
so at the moment cannot decide Galaxy s5 or Oukitel k6000 Pro which is like 130 pounds but that battery is soooo eye catching
or wait for Oukitel k6000 premium which should come with amoled display but not sure if it would exceed my 200 pounds limit
if you are familiar with chinesse brands phones share your thoughts what would you get and why
here is a comparision of the 3 phones mentioned
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/4e4176268
6000mAh battery in a Chinese phone is probably 2000mAh fake
S5 every time
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6000mAh battery in a Chinese phone is probably 2000mAh fake
S5 every time
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nono Oukitel is very popular brand because of their big battery phones
this is not a lie there are plenty of videos on the internet that are proving that they are not fake
in case you want to see it there is a teardown already made and you can see the huuuuge battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/oukitel-k6000-disassembly-t3310779
mite_jan said:
nono Oukitel is very popular brand because of their big battery phones
this is not a lie there are plenty of videos on the internet that are proving that they are not fake
in case you want to see it there is a teardown already made and you can see the huuuuge battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/oukitel-k6000-disassembly-t3310779
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Hey folks,
Before I chip in my two cents, I want to state that this is an opinion and my facts could be wrong. Please feel free to correct me at any time, but this is my general understanding on battery tech -
Batteries using current tech simply cannot be larger capacity at the same physical size. IMO (again, may be incorrect) these budget chinese brands simply won't have the funding to use any "forward" or "advanced" tech to enable higher capacity in smaller size so the trade off is either larger/thicker phone - OR as is the case in a lot of these chinese brands - a straight up lie on the capacity of the battery (6000mAH instead of 2000mAH doesn't sound unreasonable). Make sure you check, check and check again on the battery capacity before taking that as the truth. If the phone is similar size to the S5 (I haven't checked dimensions), chances are you'd be buying a relatively similar sized battery within the device. Certainly not (again, unless more expensive tech is used/created) a battery pretty much double the capacity.
Secondly - my opinion on which will be better.
2 years in tech is like 20 years in most industries in terms of how quickly things advance. Look at the change from the S3 to the S5 (or the S5 to the S7). Things (technologically speaking, lets leave design preferences to the side) there have been massive leaps in terms of the processors, battery handling capabilities, screen tech, general efficiency, cameras etc etc. The chinese "cheap" phone is likely to be as-good if not better than the S5 in most, if not all of these areas. Maybe not so much the camera, because Samsung being a company that also produces cameras has the technical know-how to make this a great area.
That been said though..
Support from developers will be short lived and small, if at all.
Future updates will either not happen - or happen once, twice if you're lucky.
If you break it, parts can be hard to source as you'll be likely to struggle to find someone that can or is willing to put their hands on and repair it.
General build quality will be comparitively worse (and yes I am referencing this against the S5 which isn't exactly known for it's general build quality).
My honest opinon - go with the S5. It's had 2 years to mature to what it is now and the dev backing is huge. Depending on the ROM you choose, battery life is likely to be amazing (in fact it'll probably be at least GOOD, regardless of ROM). The camera, generally speaking, is incredible in well lit scenarios and more than acceptable in low light scenarios. The video recording is still absolutely fantastic in comparison to other phones on the market today.
I'll update this once I've read up on the phone you're looking to buy. I own a mobile phone repair company and as a result I get a good idea of what a phone will be like from its specs etc so I'll have a gander.
>>Edit as promised.
Right based on what I can see, that phone is clearly designed based on the iPhone 5/5S model that Apple released. Not a bad thing at all, that phone is gorgeous, just saying...
It does however look pretty.. big. It looks to me to be pretty thick and that leads to me believe that their claim for the battery size is actually true. The battery appears to be taller and wider than that in the S5, plus likely is to be thicker due to the space they have in the phone.
I'm sticking to my original recommendation but that does at least clarify the claims of the battery size. You'll no doubt be happy with your choice either way though - but the S5 DOES and WILL have a much larger developer backing for a lot longer, and thats purely due to the popularity of the S5.
yetep said:
Hey folks,
Before I chip in my two cents, I want to state that this is an opinion and my facts could be wrong. Please feel free to correct me at any time, but this is my general understanding on battery tech -
Batteries using current tech simply cannot be larger capacity at the same physical size. IMO (again, may be incorrect) these budget chinese brands simply won't have the funding to use any "forward" or "advanced" tech to enable higher capacity in smaller size so the trade off is either larger/thicker phone - OR as is the case in a lot of these chinese brands - a straight up lie on the capacity of the battery (6000mAH instead of 2000mAH doesn't sound unreasonable). Make sure you check, check and check again on the battery capacity before taking that as the truth. If the phone is similar size to the S5 (I haven't checked dimensions), chances are you'd be buying a relatively similar sized battery within the device. Certainly not (again, unless more expensive tech is used/created) a battery pretty much double the capacity.
Secondly - my opinion on which will be better.
2 years in tech is like 20 years in most industries in terms of how quickly things advance. Look at the change from the S3 to the S5 (or the S5 to the S7). Things (technologically speaking, lets leave design preferences to the side) there have been massive leaps in terms of the processors, battery handling capabilities, screen tech, general efficiency, cameras etc etc. The chinese "cheap" phone is likely to be as-good if not better than the S5 in most, if not all of these areas. Maybe not so much the camera, because Samsung being a company that also produces cameras has the technical know-how to make this a great area.
That been said though..
Support from developers will be short lived and small, if at all.
Future updates will either not happen - or happen once, twice if you're lucky.
If you break it, parts can be hard to source as you'll be likely to struggle to find someone that can or is willing to put their hands on and repair it.
General build quality will be comparitively worse (and yes I am referencing this against the S5 which isn't exactly known for it's general build quality).
My honest opinon - go with the S5. It's had 2 years to mature to what it is now and the dev backing is huge. Depending on the ROM you choose, battery life is likely to be amazing (in fact it'll probably be at least GOOD, regardless of ROM). The camera, generally speaking, is incredible in well lit scenarios and more than acceptable in low light scenarios. The video recording is still absolutely fantastic in comparison to other phones on the market today.
I'll update this once I've read up on the phone you're looking to buy. I own a mobile phone repair company and as a result I get a good idea of what a phone will be like from its specs etc so I'll have a gander.
>>Edit as promised.
Right based on what I can see, that phone is clearly designed based on the iPhone 5/5S model that Apple released. Not a bad thing at all, that phone is gorgeous, just saying...
It does however look pretty.. big. It looks to me to be pretty thick and that leads to me believe that their claim for the battery size is actually true. The battery appears to be taller and wider than that in the S5, plus likely is to be thicker due to the space they have in the phone.
I'm sticking to my original recommendation but that does at least clarify the claims of the battery size. You'll no doubt be happy with your choice either way though - but the S5 DOES and WILL have a much larger developer backing for a lot longer, and thats purely due to the popularity of the S5.
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dude have you seen the size of that battery ?
it is like the whole phone fat
so yes it is definitelly if not 6000mah at least 5500mah
if not check the post where i posted the teardown pictures
i agree to the fact that in same size you cannot squeaze more mah but this is lot bigger in size
mite_jan said:
dude have you seen the size of that battery ?
it is like the whole phone fat
so yes it is definitelly if not 6000mah at least 5500mah
if not check the post where i posted the teardown pictures
i agree to the fact that in same size you cannot squeaze more mah but this is lot bigger in size
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I put my response on without looking at the phone itself, so no - I hadn't seen the size of it.
Basically to me that phone would be a step BACKWARDS in terms of design and build quality. Save yourself the hassle, get the S5.
yetep said:
I put my response on without looking at the phone itself, so no - I hadn't seen the size of it.
Basically to me that phone would be a step BACKWARDS in terms of design and build quality. Save yourself the hassle, get the S5.
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i get it that you like most of the people are not into chinesse tech and that is fine but dont criticise before checking
so let me save you the checking
k6000 pro uses the sony imx214 sensor which can be found in Nexus 6 , Sony Xperia Z2
maybe not the same software camera optimization like those brands but pictures should be close
i have owned previously chinesse phone with same sensor and pictures were perfect (Jiayu s3)
the processor and GPU are not its best side they are midrange but good enought
like i said the only thing i like in the Galaxy S5 is the amoled display and support , but i believe there wont be any official support after marshmallow for the S5 (and we all know how good are the future unofficial ports)
for the K6000 pro there is more possibilities that it will get Android Nuts, Nesquick, Nutella or whatever it is going to be called
actually i like metal designs more on phones so i dont see it as step backwards
i think i will wait for the premium version of Oukitel K6000 with the flagship Helio x20 processor and Amoled screen and if it is going to be around 200 pounds i will buy that one without thinking
anyway thanks for your opinion
mite_jan said:
i get it that you like most of the people are not into chinesse tech and that is fine but dont criticise before checking
so let me save you the checking
k6000 pro uses the sony imx214 sensor which can be found in Nexus 6 , Sony Xperia Z2
maybe not the same software camera optimization like those brands but pictures should be close
i have owned previously chinesse phone with same sensor and pictures were perfect (Jiayu s3)
the processor and GPU are not its best side they are midrange but good enought
like i said the only thing i like in the Galaxy S5 is the amoled display and support , but i believe there wont be any official support after marshmallow for the S5 (and we all know how good are the future unofficial ports)
for the K6000 pro there is more possibilities that it will get Android Nuts, Nesquick, Nutella or whatever it is going to be called
actually i like metal designs more on phones so i dont see it as step backwards
i think i will wait for the premium version of Oukitel K6000 with the flagship Helio x20 processor and Amoled screen and if it is going to be around 200 pounds i will buy that one without thinking
anyway thanks for your opinion
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Sounds like you've made up your own mind. Enjoy the phone.
> Side note, I am very much into chinese tech. In fact, if it werent for the longevity of Samsung I would tell you to go with the other option but basic facts are facts - the alternative will last 6 months, tops.
yetep said:
Sounds like you've made up your own mind. Enjoy the phone.
> Side note, I am very much into chinese tech. In fact, if it werent for the longevity of Samsung I would tell you to go with the other option but basic facts are facts - the alternative will last 6 months, tops.
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still havent decided because i want phone quickly and this Oukitel k6000 premium version is going to be on the market maybe after 2,3 months
so still considering the Samsung s5 and at the same time for some other branded phone with Helio x20
purchawice galaxy s5 (exynos vs snapdragon)
Hi,
I have the opportunity to buy galaxy s5, which select the versions: snapdragon801 or exynos5422? which is better?
please help,
I greet
Here's the link to the USA LeEco Phones. The lesser model looks just like the Max 2, but with crappier internals. Prices seem pretty reasonable, especially for the Pro Model.
http://us.lemall.com/us/leeco_phone/index.html
xphyle1971 said:
Here's the link to the USA LeEco Phones. The lesser model looks just like the Max 2, but with crappier internals. Prices seem pretty reasonable, especially for the Pro Model.
http://us.lemall.com/us/leeco_phone/index.html
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These are the exact same as the Chinese version of the Le 3S and Le 3 Pro that is much lower priced. The CPU is higher than the LeMax 2 but not by much, camera is also not good due to no OIS but it is a decent camera regardless, and no 2K screen, but their rear camera is supposedly protected by Sapphire glass instead of the cheap plastic lens on the Le Max 2 that cracks super easily.
Le Pro 3 is mostly an improvement over our Le Max 2 (2.5D glass, dual speakers, bigger battery, SD821, larger pixel size for the camera). But for me the bigger, brighter 2K screen, much higher pixel count camera, OIS (not that it does much) and of course cheaper price of the Le Max 2 are more important.
Choosing between importing a Max 2 or just getting the Pro 3 (I'm in the USA) is not an easy decision. I want the slightly bigger screen, and I REALLY want the 2k display, but FHD is enough, realistically, and the way bigger battery and better processor, plus stereo speakers... it's such a tough decision.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
Choosing between importing a Max 2 or just getting the Pro 3 (I'm in the USA) is not an easy decision. I want the slightly bigger screen, and I REALLY want the 2k display, but FHD is enough, realistically, and the way bigger battery and better processor, plus stereo speakers... it's such a tough decision.
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I'm in the USA and couldn't be happier with the Max 2. Hardware is a beast. Software has some annoying bugs, but I downloaded and installed a rom this weekend (I'm a newb at that stuff) and that fixed EVERY issue I had with it. Couldn't be happier. Not to mention that even with these impressive specs, I'm getting 5-6 hours screen on time every single day without any modifications other than using greenify.
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I'm in the USA and couldn't be happier with the Max 2. Hardware is a beast. Software has some annoying bugs, but I downloaded and installed a rom this weekend (I'm a newb at that stuff) and that fixed EVERY issue I had with it. Couldn't be happier. Not to mention that even with these impressive specs, I'm getting 5-6 hours screen on time every single day without any modifications other than using greenify.
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Thanks for saying that. Which carrier are you on, and which ROM did you install?
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Thanks for saying that. Which carrier are you on, and which ROM did you install?
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Currently using AT&T. No issues whatsoever. Photo autoconfigs as soon as you put the sim card in. The rom I installed was this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/s18-s19-remix-eui-russa-china-t3470677
Everything that is broken with the factory installed rom (even using the most recent update) is working just fine with this rom. I don't see myself ever changing it.
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xphyle1971 said:
I'm in the USA and couldn't be happier with the Max 2. Hardware is a beast. Software has some annoying bugs, but I downloaded and installed a rom this weekend (I'm a newb at that stuff) and that fixed EVERY issue I had with it. Couldn't be happier. Not to mention that even with these impressive specs, I'm getting 5-6 hours screen on time every single day without any modifications other than using greenify.
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What about the screen on time with stock rom? and the screen on time without using greenify?
Are you having any fingerprint issues?
Screen on time with either rom seems to be about the same. I've not run into any fingerprint issues but many are saying the newer updates from LeEco fixes those issues.
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Here's the link to the USA LeEco Phones. The lesser model looks just like the Max 2, but with crappier internals. Prices seem pretty reasonable, especially for the Pro Model.
http://us.lemall.com/us/leeco_phone/index.html
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Thanks for the link. Signed up for the flash sale. Hopefully there are some devs who buy these devices.....
No to decide which model to pull the trigger on . $149 seams like a steal though.
I see there are a few different models of the Max 2 do you have the x821?
I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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Only if you're willing to run custom firmware, LeEco made the interface literally to sell "Chinese Netflix" and other LeEco services and it's as atrocious as that sounds.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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I'd pick something else besides Lineage, because kernel development and ROM optimization gives you better battery life on some other ROMs. If he's switching devices for battery life, Lineage will nix that quite a bit. I'm grateful that they are always first with a new android version though.
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You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
venezolano69 said:
You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
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The S1 is around 2x the price of the LePro3 where I am and also does not support any of the US LTE bands.
If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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You offering a guy bigger, wider, fatter phone, with way less proccessing power, worse camera and arguably design, all this for extra 1000mah? No thank you, 4000 is more than enough for me
The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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I completely understand where youre coming from, but to be 100% honest I definitely wouldn't go for that phone. I am perfectly fine with installing a custom ROM, because ATM it's the only way to be stable on the Robin. But as the person before you said, I'm not willing to get even less performance than my current device just for battery that lasts 3 days instead of 2. All I really need is a phone that can get 3rs of SOT with my usage, and my Robin can barely get 1.75 hours.
+I wouldnt be able to get the P2 in the first place, only supports 1 of T-Mobile's LTE bands, and the band it supports isn't widely available in my area.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with good specs, cheap price and big battery. Maybe you should read better
Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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I dont even know what are you talking about here. But le pro 3 IS cheap, last generation soc flagship, and huge battery.
le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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Its only your speculation so far, nothing constructive. Spec wise it IS last generation as i said, because only newer soc from qualcomm is 835, yes 845, 855 and so on will come, but as of this moment it is last generation. About battery again, it is big, huge whatever you call it, because no phone fom current flagships has such capacity, most 5.5 inchers range from 3000 to 3600, look at pixels, lg, galaxies and so on. Anyways this is pointless, cause all you do here is bash leeco, like you have some personal agenda against it. No one talked about after sales support or said it was important factor
I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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If over 90% of smartphones this size have upto 3600mah batteries, then its not small, its industry standart, and if you have a bigger one, that means your battery is big, not normal. Just because some chinese crap has 6000 or 10000mah doesnt mean that 4000mah suddenly becomes only "normal".
Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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It can be unlocked now. Out of the box it's locked but it's fairly simple to unlock after flashing a file...
Coming from the Robin is definitely a nice upgrade, X727 works great at TMO, all 3 bands plus wifi-calling, havent looked at VOLTE since I install PA, butl the custom ROMs available have some type of little issue mostly with audio, my USB cable gave me problems right out of the box. Choosing a new phone I'd definitely go 820/821 chipset or higher.