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Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?
And can you tell me pros and cons for phone? İ read reviews buy i want real users feedback.
Do you suggest it for today? 2016 april.
Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
ithehappy said:
Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
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Ehmedhemidli said:
İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
Then i will go for note 4. And there is on more same price phone galaxy s6. İ dont know s6 is good too or not. İ hrard battery life is bad on s6
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
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Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
ithehappy said:
I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
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Shouldn't bother replying to a person who would prefer a decade old phone over a newer one, but still replying just so someone "new" and "uninformed" can actually see what Nexus 5 really is.
By nightmarish hardware I meant:
- It is one of the most awfully built device out there. Kudos LG.
- The call quality of the phone is awful, as well as the reception. I have never had a phone with as terrible reception as that, and please don't even bother wasting your time by saying I live in an industrial area or something where reception is poor, rather its very opposite.
- The display. No comments.
- The camera. No comments.
- The external speakerphone. No comments.
Shall I go on?
Nexus is Nexus because of its SOFTWARE ONLY, period, and no exception is Nexus 5.
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
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My nexus 5 is in very nad condition (glass broken, frame got big cracks, back cover damaged) battery life is 1.2-2 hours of on screen. Camera is very bad. İ cant take proper pictures.
And yes İt is smoother
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Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
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İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
Ehmedhemidli said:
İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
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Note 4 Exynos will be the best choice you can have, it's better than Snap one. ^^
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Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?.
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I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
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I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
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Whoa thanks for information. Look note 4 exynos is 430 dollar for us i think. İ cant wait for note 6 7 because they will be more expensive. And there is one more option to buy galaxy s6 (same price) . i hate sony devices same for htc.
My love is for nexus and samsung. 6p is expensive too.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
İ need battery peeformance , camera, multitasking . i dont care about games anyway (i got nexus 5 i can play games on them)
İ dont care about roms too.
Ao which choice should i take?
Ehmedhemidli said:
Whoa thanks for information.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
Ao which choice should i take?
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Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
h8Aramex said:
Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
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İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
Ehmedhemidli said:
İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
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Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
yesteryearisoverhere said:
Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
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Thanks. That will do
I'm interested in this phone but I'm not sure if I should get it. Currently I have a s6 edge plus on tmobile and read that this phone supports the band's if I get the global version
xdamember143 said:
I'm interested in this phone but I'm not sure if I should get it. Currently I have a s6 edge plus on tmobile and read that this phone supports the band's if I get the global version
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I truly need Dual SIM for lot of international travel..this is one of the few or only phone that supports 4G/3G dual sim standby. I have heard on T-Mobile even VoLTE works (I am on ATT, don't ask if not for their coverage i would have switched)..but the only band missing is 66 which T-Mobile is planning to roll out, but it would be ages for that to be widely deployed, and by that time you can get Mi Note 3 ..
Hi,
As far as I am concerned, I would stay away from this phone
It's really nice... on paper !
But real life looks quite different.
First, despite having cloase specs to the Xiaomi mi5s Plus, I could compare them both side by side : in EVERY aspect, the mi Note 2 is beaten by it's Xiaomi sibbling.
Second, the display is simply a catastrophy... unless you really like blueish displays and ****ty view angles. It's AMOLED. The Xiaomi mi5s Plus which has IPS doesn't suffer from that.
Third, the GPS is lazy, always showing you 10 meters behind where you really are. Here again, the mi5s Plus is much more accurate !
It might be that I have got a defective device. But at least about the display, I had the exact same symptoms on the OP3 I got the very first day it was released
SO I guess : AMOLED might offer really random performance
Regards
My husband bought us mi note 2's. We have owned them for 4 months. I personally have no plans on buying another u.s. marketed cell phone. I highly recommend the mi note 2. I have the 128GB storage phone.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
As far as I am concerned, I would stay away from this phone
It's really nice... on paper !
But real life looks quite different.
First, despite having cloase specs to the Xiaomi mi5s Plus, I could compare them both side by side : in EVERY aspect, the mi Note 2 is beaten by it's Xiaomi sibbling.
Second, the display is simply a catastrophy... unless you really like blueish displays and ****ty view angles. It's AMOLED. The Xiaomi mi5s Plus which has IPS doesn't suffer from that.
Third, the GPS is lazy, always showing you 10 meters behind where you really are. Here again, the mi5s Plus is much more accurate !
It might be that I have got a defective device. But at least about the display, I had the exact same symptoms on the OP3 I got the very first day it was released
SO I guess : AMOLED might offer really random performance
Regards
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Just to give my experience so people seeing this don't immediately think this phone is awful... I've had mine (Global 6GB/128GB) for about a week and it's been great. Last phone was a Nexus 6P but I'm liking this much more. The display isn't as high resolution as the 6P but that is only really noticeable when reading small text. I don't have any issue with the display being "blueish" or poor viewing angles. GPS is also fine for me so I'm wondering if you did get a defective unit.
Get the phone you won't be disappointed. I have had the global edition for a couple of months and it poops on anything else .. Side by side with the Samsung S8 and this phone looks pretty much the same. It is not as fast as an S8, but then costs half as much, and it has loads more memory, dual SIMs, is still one of the fastest phones out there, and the display is plenty good enough. Maybe not the phone you should get if you find blowing ROMs exciting but if you want a phone that works really well out of the box this is it. The benchmarks appear to be better for the international edition so get that one, with 128gb. Remember that Xiaomi make more phones than Apple so you can bet it is going to be a solid product.
If the poster above actually owned the phone they would be competent enough to flip into the settings and adjust the screen settings to warm if they want a warmer looking screen. You can also set the screen to remove blue light at night if you want that sort of thing.
I am running dual SIMs with no issues internationally.. 4g is fast. The front end is Miui which is a bit quirky but has a bunch of good features built in.. And, having a 4000ma battery you can get a couple of days use out of the phone between charge on light use. The GPS is really good, helped by the fact that most of the phone is glass. So you get a fix real fast. Best phone I have ever owned for sat nav in a car. The GPS doesn't suck the battery dry either.
Camera is good, not brilliant but it's better than many Chinese phones. I am comparing to a DSLR which costs twice as much as the phone so probably a bit unfair! Double the resolution of the S8 phone...
This isn't a hacker phone.. It is a good phone that just works and has an interesting launcher with good features to help you control your privacy and battery use.. Usually the things you need to root your phone for.. With this phone you don't need to root to do that, and that is really handy. I do actually own this phone so feel free to ask questions
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I've had mine for going into three months now. I'm in the US using T-Mobile and I've had only one issue with it so far (I have a few issues taking calls on a wired headphones). Overall, really satisfied with it.
Is it still worth getting in 2017? Any problems now!
screen and camera mediocre.
I just got mine and going to start using it. Initial impressions, it's a BEAUTY. The black one is a SEXY monolith. Very minimal in curves and subtle in design. Nothing jazzy. The bad part - Only the screen/display. Yes the resolution is a little less. But honestly, you wouldn't even notice it. 6GIGs OF RAM DUDEE! What else do you need? And 128 is more than enough. For that price, you will usually compromise on something or the other with other phones, not this one.
I currently own an S6 Edge+ and the battery has degraded heavily so I am currently looking for a new phone and this one looks very promising, but will it get Android Oreo?
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I currently own an S6 Edge+ and the battery has degraded heavily so I am currently looking for a new phone and this one looks very promising, but will it get Android Oreo?
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Of course it will. Any Custom Rom can do the trick.. Just save money ..
Mi Note 2 worths it !
I have a discount code for today for this device at 220 euros and I am really wondering if it's worth it. It's the 6/64gb version.
elialitem said:
I have a discount code for today for this device at 220 euros and I am really wondering if it's worth it. It's the 6/64gb version.
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I would say it is worth that price. In.my opinion , it beats every phone under 220 euros.
Where?
elialitem said:
I have a discount code for today for this device at 220 euros and I am really wondering if it's worth it. It's the 6/64gb version.
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where did you get that price?
piratak said:
where did you get that price?
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Gearbest. I can also get it for 217 euros. but after using my credits.
Without credits, you can get it for 230 euro
I just love that phone.
I have this phone for month now and it great, fast, stable, no heating, great battery life. After all I think its worth baying this phone.
I confirm I got this phone few days ago from Gearbest, paid it 213€ with shipment included. I will now request bootloader unlocking so I can add root. I am planning to keep stock MIUI, really hoping it's going to get MIUI 9 before christmas.
elialitem said:
I confirm I got this phone few days ago from Gearbest, paid it 213€ with shipment included. I will now request bootloader unlocking so I can add root. I am planning to keep stock MIUI, really hoping it's going to get MIUI 9 before christmas.
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Actually , it is . Mi Note 2 has already Miui 9 in nightly realease state for the global rom .
Today I've sold this wonderful piece of unsupported hardware.
It's really sad considering the fact that the phone is very well made but plagued by a very weak battery (~4-5 hours of SOT with only Wi-Fi enabled, brightness set to ~30% and very little CPU usage) and practically no official support. I could have overlooked all these issues but this phone's idle battery discharge rate is simply unacceptable - over 0.5% per hour with pretty much everything turned off except a radio module (meaning texts and calls). Also this phone's camera is another letdown: 21MP of blurriness and very bad low light performance. Open source ROMs don't solve this phone issues however add a whole more.
I need to mention that I absolutely love this phone's screen, performance, audio (CDLA + audio effects are top notch), speaker but now I'm considering other options with timely updates and better battery life. They might be more expensive but nowadays you buy a full package and not just a telephone which cannot work without being charged every few hours. I already have a dumb phone which works beautifully and have an exceptional battery life.
I'm choosing between ZTE Axon 7, Xiaomi Mi 5 and LG G5 (which is sold at $250 at the moment) - all three are well supported, however only the latter sports a decent camera, though it's no match for SGS 8 or LG V20 (the top two performers in the world of smartphones at the moment).
if can play continually 4-5 hours of SOT with only Wi-Fi enabled, sounds a great bettery life for me.
you have something blocks sleep ....
Do a full reset , not install anything and turn off wifi and don't touch it. I am sure it will run for days.
It won't run for days and I've already tried four different ROMs, RR, LOS, stock Indian (19s) and Chinese (23s), all flashed after wiping everything, with similar results. And I've already run various apps to assess the idle discharge rate - it's not caused by rogue apps waking up my device, it's the phone's issue.
5 hours of SOT is poor by any definition. SGS 8 can browse the web up to 12 hours or play videos for up to 16 hours with just a slightly better battery.
Mi5s camera is better than iPhone and Galaxy S7 Edge. Support is good too.
Anyway, nothing beat 2k 5.7". With QC3.0, battery life is not a problem.
I think you didn't use the good rom, battery discharge when phone standby you said is unheard of to me ( I use stock mod rom by Tora33). Battery is plenty for me and it's good never discharge when phone is on standby. Maybe some Nougat rom about battery life when it discharge like you said. You can tweak it if it drain too much, I did set Cpu for battery on Nougat roms I tried and it was last very long time. Consider it got 5.7" I think the 3100 mAh battery doing the job very well.
The thing I don't like is it's too big and heavy like a brick, I like more compact phone with less weight.
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AcoEUI v0.9/Slim 1.0 new battery friendly stock rom.
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It won't run for days and I've already tried four different ROMs, RR, LOS, stock Indian (19s) and Chinese (23s), all flashed after wiping everything, with similar results. And I've already run various apps to assess the idle discharge rate - it's not caused by rogue apps waking up my device, it's the phone's issue.
5 hours of SOT is poor by any definition. SGS 8 can browse the web up to 12 hours or play videos for up to 16 hours with just a slightly better battery.
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I get reliable 4-5 hours SOT over about a 12 hour period with 50% brightness using a combination of wifi & LTE data. It isn't great, but it isn't terrible either. I hear similar reports from Pixel XL users, so I think it's OK from a bargain price device which has plenty of other good things going for it, and it charges very fast so I can easily top up anyway. The camera is OK for me too. I get very good results a lot of the time. I rarely use it in low light, and unless you buy an expensive flagship like a Galaxy S, Note, Pixel etc you won't get good low light anyway. Video is meh, but that's not a priority for me.
While I agree to some extent with the op, I'm definitely satisfied with this phone. I had to make some compromises, coming from a g4, then a v10 I was used to great cameras, micro SD and headphone jack. But the trade off was worth it, the screen is great, performance is top notch, even the cdla headphones are great(I had my doubts about this). The bang for buck you get with this phone is incredible, and as for support, the dev community has embraced this phone so we have plenty of roms. I could have gone with a g5 or v20 instead of this phone, but the g5 was too small and the v20 too pricey.
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The camera is definitely not bad. Not sure why the hate.
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The camera is definitely not bad. Not sure why the hate.
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It's not that it's bad, but when comparing it to other devices (in my case the G4 and v10) it just doesn't stand a chance. The sensor has potential, but le eco needs to add better manual controls to unleash the camera's true potential.
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To OP. Happy for you, you sold the phone, so bye bye...
By the way, compare a 180 vs 600 dollars phone, great!
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thetrukos said:
To OP. Happy for you, you sold the phone, so bye bye...
By the way, compare a 180 vs 600 dollars phone, great!
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Sarcasm aside, for a 180 phone dollar phone, this baby can give most flagships a run for their money!
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luisoman2000 said:
It's not that it's bad, but when comparing it to other devices (in my case the G4 and v10) it just doesn't stand a chance. The sensor has potential, but le eco needs to add better manual controls to unleash the camera's true potential.
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Not to dissed V10 which is great for wide-angle. I see no point comparing small sensor camera because it's kinda crappy when the light falls. I am happy enough with what x820 can do.
About the blur focus, I haven't encounter any. Have you have blur focus camera before?
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Not to dissed V10 which is great for wide-angle. I see no point comparing small sensor camera because it's kinda crappy when the light falls. I am happy enough with what x820 can do.
About the blur focus, I haven't encounter any. Have you have blur focus camera before?
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not sure what you mean with blur focus. I know sensors are small, but you can still get some decent night shots with the right tweaks on manual mode.
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not sure what you mean with blur focus. I know sensors are small, but you can still get some decent night shots with the right tweaks on manual mode.
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I also don't understand the blur focus. I pick it up from this forum. Got people complain about it for Le Max 2. So far, my Le Max 2 focusing is as expected.:laugh:
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It's not that it's bad, but when comparing it to other devices (in my case the G4 and v10) it just doesn't stand a chance. The sensor has potential, but le eco needs to add better manual controls to unleash the camera's true potential.
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Try Open Camera if you need manual control.
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luisoman2000 said:
While I agree to some extent with the op, I'm definitely satisfied with this phone. I had to make some compromises, coming from a g4, then a v10 I was used to great cameras, micro SD and headphone jack. But the trade off was worth it, the screen is great, performance is top notch, even the cdla headphones are great(I had my doubts about this). The bang for buck you get with this phone is incredible, and as for support, the dev community has embraced this phone so we have plenty of roms. I could have gone with a g5 or v20 instead of this phone, but the g5 was too small and the v20 too pricey.
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Same here. I'll admit that the FP sensor is a sore disappointment, as is the lack of continued software support.....
But:
- We got 99% working custom ROMs on it
- It's $270.
Seriously. $270 - do you expect an Axon 7 for 50% of its price? If you wanna see a phone holocaust, check out the BLU Pure XL. My philosophy has always been that if you can buy two or 3 of something for the cost of the high end thing, it's probably worth trying. On the whole, if the FP sensor worked and the ROM was stock, I'd say it's pretty close to the perfect phone. Maybe tack on a slightly better cam and a 3.5mm jack, and I'd be peachy keen.
Gotta be realistic though. It's a phone on a steep discount that actually has some quality to it. Even EUI, beyond the Chinese ROM garbage, is decent, if alternative. Who knows. Maybe one day I'll summon the strength to cash out for a V30 or something, but until that point I think that this phone will be quite sufficient. It's also liberating upgrade wise, because honestly, I kind of like that I could upgrade after a year and I wouldn't cry no tears over it.
I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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I currently have a Nextbit Robin and am looking for an upgrade. My biggest issue with the Robin is battery, so obviously this phone caught my eye with its cheap price, great specs, and huge battery. Is it worth it, especially with most of these devices being new in box for 200-?
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Only if you're willing to run custom firmware, LeEco made the interface literally to sell "Chinese Netflix" and other LeEco services and it's as atrocious as that sounds.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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Yeah, you'll probably want to flash Lineage or any other ROM on it if you're coming from the Robin, which is running actually good software compared to eUI. Even MIUI and EMUI are better than eUI, IMO. Just be careful where you buy the phone from, because you're buying a phone from an essentially dead company that has since left North America. You won't get a good warranty on any LeEco phone unless you're buying it from an official vendor (LeEco US, Flipkart, etc.)
If you want a phone similar to the Robin but with decent specs (let's face it, the 808 is a horrdenous chipset), get a Mi A1 (stock Android), or a G5S Plus if you're in the U.S. Both can be had for $200 USD or slightly more.
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I'd pick something else besides Lineage, because kernel development and ROM optimization gives you better battery life on some other ROMs. If he's switching devices for battery life, Lineage will nix that quite a bit. I'm grateful that they are always first with a new android version though.
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You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
venezolano69 said:
You can buy a coolpad changer s1 that is the same phone of lepro3 but with a coolpad software
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The S1 is around 2x the price of the LePro3 where I am and also does not support any of the US LTE bands.
If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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If you want a phone with big battery I recomand Lenovo P2 with 5000 mah it will last you like a week if you use it light or around 3 days normal use.
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You offering a guy bigger, wider, fatter phone, with way less proccessing power, worse camera and arguably design, all this for extra 1000mah? No thank you, 4000 is more than enough for me
The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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I completely understand where youre coming from, but to be 100% honest I definitely wouldn't go for that phone. I am perfectly fine with installing a custom ROM, because ATM it's the only way to be stable on the Robin. But as the person before you said, I'm not willing to get even less performance than my current device just for battery that lasts 3 days instead of 2. All I really need is a phone that can get 3rs of SOT with my usage, and my Robin can barely get 1.75 hours.
+I wouldnt be able to get the P2 in the first place, only supports 1 of T-Mobile's LTE bands, and the band it supports isn't widely available in my area.
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The guy said he wants a phone with a big battery. If he doesn't want a phone with a powerful cpu made by a company that is almost bankrupt and is possible that we don't see any upgrade to nougat, that lenovo is the best battery phone on gsmarena and for a normal people is ok. Not everybody is a gamer or capable to install custom roms. Maybe he wants a phone with ota updates. I change in my le pro 3 like 15 times the rom and I didn't find a perfect one.
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The guy said he wants a phone with good specs, cheap price and big battery. Maybe you should read better
Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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Phones with good specs, cheap and big batteries... humm... and I want a beautiful girl, with good looks, and a big perfect round pack of batteries that stays young forever. But it doesnt exist. Why do you think that big companies doesnt make flagships with big batteries? Is bad for business. If such phone exist people would keep them longer and wouldn't buy new phones. So they make phones with small batteries. They die in less then 2 years and you would buy a new phone. Phones today even does't have changeble batteries.
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I dont even know what are you talking about here. But le pro 3 IS cheap, last generation soc flagship, and huge battery.
le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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le pro 3 is cheap, agree, last generation specs, no way, 2 generations behind, 835 and 845 that will come. huge battery? no. is a normal battery for a 5.5 inch phonein my oppinion. huge battery would mean 5-6-7000 mah. And don't forget the cherry, no support from manufactor. Even phones with really bad specs like 1 gb ram and some poor mtk soc and they have nougat or even programmed to oreo. I was stuck on my last phone a Lenovo many years with a kitcat and i really dont like companies that do hit and run. they sell you a good phone and forget about you and the support.
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Its only your speculation so far, nothing constructive. Spec wise it IS last generation as i said, because only newer soc from qualcomm is 835, yes 845, 855 and so on will come, but as of this moment it is last generation. About battery again, it is big, huge whatever you call it, because no phone fom current flagships has such capacity, most 5.5 inchers range from 3000 to 3600, look at pixels, lg, galaxies and so on. Anyways this is pointless, cause all you do here is bash leeco, like you have some personal agenda against it. No one talked about after sales support or said it was important factor
I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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I din't said that my le pro 3 is bad. But It has it's own good points, and bad points. When someone wants to buy it, it should know what are those points.
This brick has a huge battery. All curent flagships from Iphone to samsung and miaomi have small bateries. Le pro 3 has normal battery for a phone with snapdragon 821 and 5.5 screen.
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If over 90% of smartphones this size have upto 3600mah batteries, then its not small, its industry standart, and if you have a bigger one, that means your battery is big, not normal. Just because some chinese crap has 6000 or 10000mah doesnt mean that 4000mah suddenly becomes only "normal".
Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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Hold on a second, this may be a dumb question, but is the bootloader on the LEX727 unlockable?
Since I'm in the US and the 727 is the only model that supports all 3 of T-Mobile's bands, it's really my only option. I just dug up a old post that says the bootloader can't be unlocked, and if that's true it looks like I'll be getting a different phone.
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It can be unlocked now. Out of the box it's locked but it's fairly simple to unlock after flashing a file...
Coming from the Robin is definitely a nice upgrade, X727 works great at TMO, all 3 bands plus wifi-calling, havent looked at VOLTE since I install PA, butl the custom ROMs available have some type of little issue mostly with audio, my USB cable gave me problems right out of the box. Choosing a new phone I'd definitely go 820/821 chipset or higher.
Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
The device is now currently selling for ₹9000 (presuming you are in India). If you spend a little more the current gen Redmi and Realme devices offer much better specs.
If you still want this phone I would recommend ResRemix, DOT OS, Havoc OS or Pixel Experience.
Nope no never even not in your nightmare..if you want it to became more than worst nightmare
Depends on how much price you're getting, In some websites it goes under 7k with Bank offers and all that, It's a nice device for that price range. If you're going above 8.5k, then look aside, there are better devices in that segment of 10k or under. Hope that helps
Do not buy any Asus phone in 2019 because they do not have LTE band 41 (Sprint / Vodafone In) and even though the SD636 660 and 865 support LTE A, CA does not work. There are software glitches in M1, fewer on 340.
Yes, with discounts and offers it goes around 7k or so right? can anyone suggest better phone in this range? with 5kmah batt full hd screen 3/4gb ram, sd 636 or better
If you NEED big battery AND you live in a well signal area = yes, otherwise, the phone simply sucks.
If you choose this phone, use Havoc, Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
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Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
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Thanks for the review,
no
go for vivo z1 pro
killerbees19 said:
Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
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For 8k it's a good Device...with decent development
If you are not particular about custom rom and development, skip this phone. Otherwise it is a good buy.
willmaxXD said:
go for vivo z1 pro
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you're SERIOUSLY recommending a phone thats almost DOUBLE the price?
are your eyes and brain working normally?
hey OP, ignore everything in this thread, go for a gold plated iPhone with diamond touchscreen.
because screw budgets, right?
I would say it depends upon your needs.
I am a person who prefers small to medium sized phones, but wanted a slightly bigger device for reading and media consumption that could still be operated via single hand. Max Pro M1 fit the bill pretty well.
Its got a nice screen, reasonable specs, lightweight stock UI, nice build quality and is affordable.
I found is the camera to be lacklustre, which can somewhat be improved via Google Camera app.
YMMV.
I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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For 7.6k its definitely good buy,redmi note 6 pro with same SoC is 11-12k.
I bought the 3/32GB variant for Rs 6,066 after all the Bank Discounts and an exchange. So far, it's proving to be a good purchase. I'm really impressed with the battery life on it. The UI is smooth being stock Android. I've added a 64GB Micro SD card. It works than my brother's Redmi Note 5 Pro. The Front Camera is where it lacks but apart from that it's great.
Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though.
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Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
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Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though
Iam planning to tell my friend to buy one from his trip to India. There is nothing even half good i can buy for that price ( around 80 Pound) here in the UK . Dear Indian friends do you have any other phones to suggest for that budget ?
@rkoforever90 Hi,
Only lack luster thing in this phone is- its camera performance. Ignore the trolls here, they might be just some teens, accustomed to Chinese vendors.
Slow battery charge is intentionaly done by Asus to keep its massive battery healthy.
Very few devices comes with sd636 in your budget.
I'll recommend moto one device if you want to compensate for camera and performance.
Skip realme, oppo, Mi etc. (You know why )
Htc u12+ and Nokias in budget but lacks battery power. Also upcoming month is festive month in India so may be some good device launch will follow.
Overall for an elderly I think its good device with good resolution and screen quality. With no lags. Stock rom is not as bad as this forum made it look like.