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I think a lot of people in these forums and webs are forgetting something.

Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...

I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!

tuppaacc said:
I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!?
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I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.

tuppaacc said:
I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!
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Dude like the other person said its only over wifi for all that if you using your iphone over wifi at home might as well use a computer that's why they call it a "mobile" phone should be able to use that feature anywhere. And when skype release for android it will be amazing.

idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy

xXJay_RXx said:
idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy
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Heh, funny thing is, I could do the same if I wanted to get locked into a contract honestly. At least, if I wanted a subsidized price.
But honestly, what's the point? I'd rather have everything all on one device.

dont get me wrong, its a cool feature to have video calling, but i honestly dont talk on the phone that much....plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem

mykenyc said:
Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.

Buck Shot said:
plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem
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I can make a gay joke (which may or may not even offend you depending on the team you're on), or a sad, lonely geek joke with this. Tell you what, think of one yourself and pretend I said it.
J/K of course.

arkavat said:
As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.

Htc has made phones that have video calln for years..... but honestly whos really gonna walk and talk while stair'n at ur phone lol

Snow_fox said:
I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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First dual-core Snapdragon will be the MSM8260 (the HSPA part will likely lead the CDMA MSM8660). Aside from the modems, they're identical and clock in at 1.2GHz.
Just a bit of a guide:
MSM8x50: 1GHz single core (N1, Desire, Evo, Incredible, etc CPU). Only CPU in teh public now.
MSM8x50A: 1.3GHz single core. Die shrink (same CPU design, but literally shrunk via new technology reducing power consumption and heat output). Due late 2010
MSM8x60: 1.2GHz dual core. LTE support. 1080p decode. support for up to WXGA 1280 x 800 screen resolution. Due late 2010/Early 2011
MSM8x72: 1.5GHz dual core. Support for up to WSXGA screen resolution. (1440 x 9001080p encode/decode, full support for all Mobile TV solutions. MASSIVE overhaul of graphics unit, with it reportedly able to render 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec. Reports have suggested a late 2010 launch, but given that the unit has yet to be mass produced for OEM testing, I don't expect it before 2011.
I wouldn't give up hope that either of the dual-core parts will show up in smartphones. They seem targeted at tablets and smartbooks. It will probably be end of 2011 before we see enough improvements in power consumption to see that kind of performance in a mobile handset.

arkavat said:
As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
Snow_fox said:
I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.

again, I had video calling since 2007 over 3g on my N80 and it was free on my 3 network. LoL and now Steve says "BOOM video calling" and all people going crazy about it. Go to Asia or Europe it´s just normal and something you rarely use.
I use that for my personal freedom:
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ap3604 said:
I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.
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Agree that Apples idea of video conferencing is far too limited. If they really wanted to do something right, they could have worked on a standard everyone could have shared, and enabled it regardless of how your are connected.

Jack_R1 said:
Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.
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I think your smell-o-scope is broken. I know a certain professor who can help you
Processor clock speed is just one of the performance parameter of a CPU and on its own means nothing. I will, actually, go further and say, CPU specs alone means nothing to me. It's the total package that counts. I will buy a 2.2GHz thinkpad over 2.6Ghz inspiron laptop and even pay few hundred dollars more. Because I am paying for the whole thing, the chassis, better hard drive, etc... Inspiron cheaps out and thinkpad does not.
Let's go back to phones,
Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU
Let me reiterate my hate of steve jobs and company. However, apple has not cheaped out on this phone and let's appreciate that. I have always said, HTC cheaps out very regularly. I do not think I need to present any proofs of that, search on XDA.
Having said all this, I like my freedom and I will stay with Android. But i will not wear a fanboy hat to defend HTC or google nor will I post rants against them. But please, lets appreciate what other companies are doing good. that too in a socialized manner.

Im gonna move to the iphone 4 inspite losing flash support but getting a high res display nearly like the first webbooks AND hd video recording WITH A SOUND and not this ****y noise/crap audio the nexus one is recording on videos...

whatever guys, i get both!
hahaha

I have to admit the iphone4 is pretty impressive...but its not enough for me to buy one.
I still love my nexus and flash.

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Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU.
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Hmm, I see your point. But I think it's not that simple.
I can show you phones that have subset of the features: 1, 6, 7, 9, 11.
Be surprised, Nexus supports OpenGL 2.0 and HD video (if you mean 720p). So does Evo.
Evo supports 720p and has front facing camera.
I'm sure you know Nexus also has noise canceling mic and wireless N. Evo lacks the mic.
Display DPI, another axle in accelerometer, gyroscope and glass (?) aside - they're advanced. Might be important, might be as needless as noise cancelling mic (the only thing it's good for, it seems, is not allowing people to speak to the phone from a distance). Pentaband is a function of antennas, which might be supported on current HW (need to ask RF people, don't have enough knowledge to tell).
On the other hand, how do you compare lacking features? For example, being so excited about DPI, how do you compare smaller or larger screen sizes - what counts as an advantage? OLED vs IPS paned LCD - for what reason do manufacturers need to go back, Samsung already proved that OLED can be made to work great in direct sunlight? How do you compare lack of HDMI out, weak camera, lack of WiMAX/LTE support, lack of removable battery (for as simple a reason as being capable to execute forced shutdown, for example)?
I'm far from being a fanboy for any technology. It's just technology.
P.S. And even if I dig into specs of future phones that aren't rumored on the net yet, I wouldn't disclose them on the forum, don't you think?

Fujitsu f12arc- Android Powerhouse!

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This phone is only in the prototype stages and doesn't even yet have an official name. However I've got a name to describe it... AMAZING! Check this out, this phone packs the following features:
4.6" LCD (1280 x 720 pixels)
Waterproof
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
13.1MP rear camera
1080p video recording
1.4GHz quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3 processor
4G
Fingerprint scanner
FFC (Front Facing Camera)
I must admit that I'm kind of excited to see if this will hit the US market. What do you guys think?
Informational Articles:
http://www.unwiredview.com
http://www.thegeeksclub.com

you had me at
"Waterproof, 13.1MP, quad core, fingerprint scanner"
I may not know if i want a GSIII if this is released or announced to be released anytime that is.
It's a shame its a prototype.

xriderx66 said:
I may not know if i want a GSIII if this is released or announced to be released anytime that is.
It's a shame its a prototype.
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Exactly my thoughts.
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)

I'm not sure I'm sold on the tegra 3 CPUs yet. And they barely make an 8mp camera with good pic quality, so what makes anyone think 13 will be better? The photos will be huge (in more than one way), and most likely grainy and washed out. No thanks.
What I want in my next phone:
[Pipe dream]
Hardware acceleration optimized
At least Dual core S4+, 1.5+GHz
No larger than 4.6", but would rather 4.3" (and no, she didn't say that).
Crazy amounts of internal storage (16GB absolute min)
Unlocked boot loader
Latest ICS with guaranteed updates
8mp QUALITY camera
At least 2mp FFC
4g
Retina Display like resolution with Super AMOLED like color reproduction and contrast
No bezel at all, and speakers on both ends like the latest Galaxy player.
Accurate GPS
And most important of all: Battery life. I'll sacrifice a few of the others for decent battery life. [/pipe dream]
Am I living in a fantasy world? Probably. But no worse than those people who want WoW to be "irl".
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.

Droidificator said:
I'm not sure I'm sold on the tegra 3 CPUs yet. And they barely make an 8mp camera with good pic quality, so what makes anyone think 13 will be better? The photos will be huge (in more than one way), and most likely grainy and washed out. No thanks.
What I want in my next phone:
[Pipe dream]
Hardware acceleration optimized
At least Dual core S4+, 1.5+GHz
No larger than 4.6", but would rather 4.3" (and no, she didn't say that).
Crazy amounts of internal storage (16GB absolute min)
Unlocked boot loader
Latest ICS with guaranteed updates
8mp QUALITY camera
At least 2mp FFC
4g
Retina Display like resolution with Super AMOLED like color reproduction and contrast
No bezel at all, and speakers on both ends like the latest Galaxy player.
Accurate GPS
And most important of all: Battery life. I'll sacrifice a few of the others for decent battery life. [/pipe dream]
Am I living in a fantasy world? Probably. But no worse than those people who want WoW to be "irl".
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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All of that seems reasonable except for the 16GB min storage and the battery life.
What I think you're looking for is a Google experience Nexus phone with the best hardware of the time, and the right manufacturer and carrier (unlocked bootloader) You probably don't want to get a phone thats Motorola/HTC (though i think its HTC thats beginning to change) and Verizon (verizon has recently filed to the FFC saying they wish to make their phones bootloader locked)
and the NO BEZEL thing i don't think will happen, there will be LESS bezel, but i don't think it will all just go away, since first of all you won't even use the edges for anything, it will cost manufacturers even more since the screen will have to be perfect rectangle.
The Battery life part will be probably the hardest thing... and then maybe not since there are new technologies coming out in this decade for things like if you move your phone around or shake it for a while, the battery should recharge due to kinetic energy.. and theres even one that i read not too long ago probably a few days ago, that had the concept, but the technology was real of where you just sit down on your phone, and the body heat should recharge it.

xriderx66 said:
I may not know if i want a GSIII if this is released or announced to be released anytime that is.
It's a shame its a prototype.
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I am guessing when you see benchmarks of quad core exynos, you will take back your words

if you move your phone around or shake it for a while, the battery should recharge due to kinetic energy..
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Phone fap
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Fujitsu is the main DC brand
they have good review with they're product
MP doesn't mean anything but they're brand mean it.
I can't wait for it.

It is happening...a 1080p smartphone with a Snapdragon 810!

The Oneplus Two might be getting some competition!
The name of said device is... the HTC Hima!
http://bgr.com/2014/12/04/htc-hima-release-date-and-specs/
Specs:
5-inch Full HD display
Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC containing a 2.0GHz quad-core processor and a 1.5GHz quad-core processor
3GB of RAM
20.7-megapixel camera
13-megapixel or UltraPixel front-facing camera
VoLTE/CA/LTE Cat. 6 support
2,840 mAh battery
Android 5.0 Lollipop with HTC Sense 7.0 on top.
These guts would probably get some impressive power out of a 4k device. The fact that they're in a 1080p device....it's going to be setting some serious records in the benchmarks, I can tell you that. It's about time someone realized that 4k is pointless for a screen that size.
That being said, why am I posting this here? Let me explain...As of December 2014, the Oneplus One is the hottest recent device on xda. The device really isn't even released yet, yet countless developers have already adopted it. Check for yourself; nothing else has the amount of xda developers, roms, and kernels the OPO has right now. That, in of itself, is its killer feature. You know, along with the excellent specs. It's a very nice, device, and I'm very happy with it.
THAT being said, is a device as freakishly powerful as the HTC Hima something that would make you forget your OPO? Would it even get your attention? Discuss!

What about one plus two? I'm sure they will make it comparable to other phones of that era. I myself would stick with something like opo or opt I guess (one plus two lol) or nexus for the ease and flexibility of root and customization
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But at what cost?

HTC and their small battery size
Sent from my A0001

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HTC and their small battery size
Sent from my A0001
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Meaning what? I get 5+ hours of SOT on my M8 with its puny 2600mah battery!
Sense is very well optimized and so is the GPE version.

Is it? That battery on this this is one thing I'm worried about. On top of, you know, everything else they could possibly screw up.
All this mystery makes me excited to see what Oneplus and HTC do with their upcoming devices. And... how much each will cost. :fingers-crossed:

ek69 said:
What about one plus two? I'm sure they will make it comparable to other phones of that era. I myself would stick with something like opo or opt I guess (one plus two lol) or nexus for the ease and flexibility of root and customization
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New tagline: Opt in for a One plus Two!

I'm intrigued. I would love to go back to HTC but their ultra pixel crap has been putting me off since the M7. I loved my One X that was a fine device and Sense is a really nice UI. HTC do produce good phones so let's see what this beast fruits too.

ill buy this htc instantly if the specs are true.

No thanks, will wait for 815 or 820 or 810 version without heating problems.

I won't ever EVER buy any mobile device over 1080p until it established in the desktop / media area. If you watch a 1080p movie on a screen with different pixel scaling then you get blur because the pixels have the wrong format to display a single 1080p pixel. Beside of that 1080p is really enough atm on mobiles. And lower res means less hardware usage.

Need help choosing between OP5 and LG G6

Hey thanks for helping out.
Okay, let's break things down. Consider I can get either of these phones for the same price. Now, go through my impressions on both the phones and help me decide.
So, these are reasons to go for,
G6 over OP5
- The design
- "I" think the G6 camera got an edge over OP5
- It's compact yet has a bigger screen
- Water resistance (not really a deal breaker for me though)
- OIS
- Design again (It's essentially just the design and alot the design)
OP5 over G6
- I love Oxygen OS just because it's closer to stock android (G6 doesn't even come close in this department)
- Much cleaner with nearly no bloatware
- More RAM and better processor means smoother and faster experience
- I think I would find myself using the portrait mode more often than a wide angle shot
- Dash charging (of course)
- Alert slider
- Faster read and writes
- Prefer AMOLED over LCD
And there are things like SOT, sound quality/volume and other little things that would make one of them top the other. Hope someone can give some valuable comments on this. Thanks again
PS: I know the later list is longer, but it's just not that easy for me Also you may know other things that would make either of my lists grow.

also a LED notification for the OP5, the G6 doesn`t have one, that was the one thing that bugged me about the G6, so I ended up getting rid of it, I would go OP5, but I will have my OP5 tomorrow...... so I will see if my mind changes on that lol

For me The OP5 is better
Mihail96 said:
Hey thanks for helping out.
Okay, let's break things down. Consider I can get either of these phones for the same price. Now, go through my impressions on both the phones and help me decide.
So, these are reasons to go for,
G6 over OP5
- The design
- "I" think the G6 camera got an edge over OP5
- It's compact yet has a bigger screen
- Water resistance (not really a deal breaker for me though)
- OIS
- Design again (It's essentially just the design and alot the design)
OP5 over G6
- I love Oxygen OS just because it's closer to stock android (G6 doesn't even come close in this department)
- Much cleaner with nearly no bloatware
- More RAM and better processor means smoother and faster experience
- I think I would find myself using the portrait mode more often than a wide angle shot
- Dash charging (of course)
- Alert slider
- Faster read and writes
- Prefer AMOLED over LCD
And there are things like SOT, sound quality/volume and other little things that would make one of them top the other. Hope someone can give some valuable comments on this. Thanks again
PS: I know the later list is longer, but it's just not that easy for me Also you may know other things that would make either of my lists grow.
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The design of the oneplus5 is good bro , i know it's like a year old desing and everybody been pissing on it , but be sure to know that if it wasn't close in apparence to the Iphone 7 , nobody will point it out as a "bad" design ... once you take that idea out of your brain , the design is really good , also don't judge it like you see it because unless u held it you know nothing about it ... like MKBHD said : the most important is how it feels .
The camera on it is also great , i couldn't rely on the reviews on youtube , just because some people showed it better than the biggest phones , while others showed it like trash ... so for this i'll say it's up to you , it's definitely a user preferance thing , but note that hopefully it will get better with software updates and also that the phone is less than a week old
compact , bigger screen , water resistance ... are things that - again - come to your preferance , some of us would've wanted an infinity display on it , even the company said it themselves ... if it's a deal breaker for you than definitely consider them
as for OIS , it's something shamefull , like how could a company promote a phone and make it's selling point on the camera and not include OIS ?! i don't know , but something to point out , is that of there were EIS with 4K vids , or if EIS was more enhanced ... the lack of OIS will be no problem , even though
OIS >>> EIS ... but still an enhanced EIS will do the job , and hopefully OP will be on it with software updated to put EIS for 4K videos and make it over all better
hope i helped you with is , presonnally just for stock-ish android experience , and support of the dev community and root and all that ... i will choose a OnePlus phone over anything else ... the GPixel is great , but very expensive nd lacks some very cool stuff that the OP5 has ... and after all , it is your call , for me ... i would rock that OP5 .

G6 only has snapdragon 821 whereas OnePlus has 835. That's another big item I think.

Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks

G6 better build quality, display, camera. The only downside to it is its an S821 but the S821 is a great SOC.

Indian Devil said:
Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks
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6GB will last you for some years to come. As of now, there is no real usage for 8GB of RAM; the software isn't properly optimized (yet). With some time and custom ROMs this will probably change though. But still, considering most major flagships (S8, Pixel, G6) only have 4GB, the 6GB version should be more than enough. I was considering the 8GB version only because of how storage consumption is currently growing pretty fast, so I was concerned I might run out of storage when I manage to keep my phone more than 3 years. Also I like the matte black version more.
At the end, I still opted for the 6GB/64GB/Slate Grey version though. Arrives tomorrow

Indian Devil said:
Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks
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For the casual user you probably won't notice a difference. 6GB is still well beyond what you'd get from pretty much any other manufacturer. If you are a super heavy multitasker, that is probably where you might see a difference.
That said, I got the 8GB one, but it's probably overkill even for me. One of the biggest surprises using this phone is that even large games stay open, suspended in the background practically forever. No more random Pokémon Go Plus disconnects!

Software is key for me. I sold my S8 because as much as loved the hardware, the op5 blows it out of the water in performance. Lgs software imo is even worse than Samsung as it's just all over the place.
Personally I wouldn't pay anything over $300 for a phone with last year's SOC. While it still works perfectly fine, that's akin to paying 2017 prices for a 2016 car.
Basically (to me) the raw speed and clean software on the op5 puts it over anything save for the pixel, which would be a closer call if the pixel could be had for less than the op5 price.

adiliyo said:
Software is key for me. I sold my S8 because as much as loved the hardware, the op5 blows it out of the water in performance.
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You sold s8 and now happy with the OP5? That's great to hear.
adiliyo said:
Lgs software imo is even worse than Samsung as it's just all over the place.
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That's what I was worried about. I hate the s8's software already. Don't think I'd cope up with LG's
adiliyo said:
Basically (to me) the raw speed and clean software on the op5 puts it over anything save for the pixel, which would be a closer call if the pixel could be had for less than the op5 price.
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Agreed. I'm currently using the Pixel XL. And it's blazing fast and super smooth(Except some rare frame drops I encounter in the Android O beta). It's sad that I gotta let go of my Pixel. (Reasons I'm letting it go: It's been purchased from US and it doesn't support some bandwidths I need here in India. Also ROM is only 32, no dual sim and occasional microphone issues)
There no other, absolutely no other complaints I have with my Pixel. (Except for a stereo speaker I'd still want that)

2003vstrom said:
also a LED notification for the OP5, the G6 doesn`t have one, that was the one thing that bugged me about the G6, so I ended up getting rid of it, I would go OP5, but I will have my OP5 tomorrow...... so I will see if my mind changes on that lol
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The notification light is no big a deal for me though. Just a nice thing to have

Poor battery life on G6 and old processor
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Batfink33 said:
G6 better build quality, display, camera. The only downside to it is its an S821 but the S821 is a great SOC.
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I don't have any problem with the build quality of my O+5... It's nice, slim, thin, feels solid, ... great phone. Build quality? 100% good. :good:

OnePlus 5 all the way. The G6 is pretty much dead in the water. LG should have waited for SD 835 imo.

ReyTheBoss said:
The design of the oneplus5 is good bro , i know it's like a year old desing and everybody been pissing on it , but be sure to know that if it wasn't close in apparence to the Iphone 7 , nobody will point it out as a "bad" design ... once you take that idea out of your brain , the design is really good , also don't judge it like you see it because unless u held it you know nothing about it
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It's the bezels..man.. The phone really doesn't look like all that 2017. I would not have a second thought had the OP5 a bit slimmer bezels. At least like the G6 if not like S8

Believe me i faced the same dilemma.
There's no hitch in my mind after choosing the OP5.
Personally, it is a preference as to what you want in your phone.
Go over the pros and cons for both.
Check camera quality samples.
See comparison videos.
Etc.
Then make an informed decision bro.
On a Side Note:
These days the cameras on most mobiles are so good, it's very hard to make out whats good n what's not, in a manner of speaking...

The OP5 is missing a sd card slot. Thats a big drawback for me

ad_slev said:
Go over the pros and cons for both.
Check camera quality samples.
On a Side Note:
These days the cameras on most mobiles are so good, it's very hard to make out whats good n what's not, in a manner of speaking...
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What's your impressions on the camera? Is it bad? Good? Or great?

mephi_ said:
The OP5 is missing a sd card slot. Thats a big drawback for me
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I don't think I'd run out of memory with 128GB version (maybe 64GB too) really. Considering I also got a laptop if I needed a backup. I'm having a tough time with the 32GB on my Pixel XL though. There's only so much you can do even with a laptop to backup.

It's good only.
I have not tested it fully but I like it.
I switched from a Nexus 6P.. & still like the OP5 camera
It's still on personal preference..
Do check MKBHD's review on it.
Even SuperSaf camera comparisons..
You'll get the idea

Front facing camera opinions

Hey everyone how you doing?
Right now I am a Note 9 user and I'm really happy with the front facing camera but recently my screen has partially broke and replacing the screen is kinda expensive ?
So right now I'm thinking of upgrading but I'm torn between which phone to get. Right now I'm opting for the OnePlus 8 Pro but I'm thinking maybe I should wait for the OnePlus 8t or maybe I should go for a Pixel 5, not sure....
I'm looking for something that had a great front facing camera and I'm not sure if the OnePlus 8 Pro is a good choice

Personally I can't fault the 8 pro, the 8T besides maybe a bigger battery and potentially a marginally quicker CPU 865+
There will be little difference..
The front facing camera is brilliant, all cameras on the 8 pro are.
If you're coming from an EU note then you'll have the exynos version anyway, in which case it'll be way behind the 8 pro in more ways than one..
Cameras being the thin end of the wedge.. Simply just s better phone all around.

dladz said:
Personally I can't fault the 8 pro, the 8T besides maybe a bigger battery and potentially a marginally quicker CPU 865+
There will be little difference..
The front facing camera is brilliant, all cameras on the 8 pro are.
If you're coming from an EU note then you'll have the exynos version anyway, in which case it'll be way behind the 8 pro in more ways than one..
Cameras being the thin end of the wedge.. Simply just s better phone all around.
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Wow thank you! Well yeah coming from the exynos it's a world's difference in the software and hardware department!
The OnePlus 8t though will come with the 865 regular one and not the plus version and the CEO tweeted that if we are looking for "pro features" we should get the OnePlus 8 Pro and not the T which is kinda.confusing and worrying me.
I'll see when It comes out and hopefully I can make a decision but the pixel 5 I don't think will be a option just because the Snapdragon 765g has the same amount of power as the Snapdragon 845 or the same as the note 9 so I feel kinda bumbed and I don't think I can call that an upgrade

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Wow thank you! Well yeah coming from the exynos it's a world's difference in the software and hardware department!
The OnePlus 8t though will come with the 865 regular one and not the plus version and the CEO tweeted that if we are looking for "pro features" we should get the OnePlus 8 Pro and not the T which is kinda.confusing and worrying me.
I'll see when It comes out and hopefully I can make a decision but the pixel 5 I don't think will be a option just because the Snapdragon 765g has the same amount of power as the Snapdragon 845 or the same as the note 9 so I feel kinda bumbed and I don't think I can call that an upgrade
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Pixel 5 will have its plus points for sure. The camera will be superb but the battery will more than likely be teeny weeny as if always is.
Definitely go for the pro, I've got the glacial green, it's a very pretty phone, not wide, just long..but not too long..
Waterfall edges take some getting used to but after a bit it's second nature,.the off screen gestures I really couldn't live without.
Plus the development scene is brilliant and reversible which is always nice.
Didn't know that the 865+ wasn't going to be used, but in all fairness the 865 is insane, I run s lot of emulators and this thing outpaces my new Nvidia shield tv (box not stick) battery I get around 8-10 hours.
765 I'd imagine having a slower GPU which would affect gaming, not sure by hour much though.

So I guess this is making things easier for me to choose

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So I guess this is making things easier for me to choose
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Lol it'll be better in some way shape or form..
Always make you jealous.